Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Featured log/October 2023

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Outline of lichens

Nominator(s): MeegsC (talk) 15:09, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

I'm testing the waters a bit, because regulars here tell me that no outline has yet reached FL status. I'm hoping to change that, and to get the first featured list for our relatively new lichen task force. As well as informing our readers, this outline is helping us to figure out what articles we still need to create. It's all referenced, but I am wondering whether the lead should be in outline form (as suggested in the outline documentation) or a full lead (as suggested by the FL criteria). Open to suggestions, and looking forward to hearing what others think. MeegsC (talk) 15:09, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

AK

• Alright, not really sure how to review an outline, but I'll have a stab at this.
• This looks pretty comprehensive and doesn't really have much prose to review, so pretty close to a support; my only comments are that the images all need alt text and that the spot test image could use the more descriptive caption present at the article to better contextualize what's going on. AryKun (talk) 14:19, 3 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks AryKun! I'll get those sorted ASAP. MeegsC (talk) 16:58, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

AryKun, I've made the changes you suggested. Can you please have a look and tell me if they meet your approval? Thanks! MeegsC (talk) 21:55, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Alright, support on prose. AryKun (talk) 03:52, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Source review

Doesn't look like there's any prose issues, so I'll do a source review- no spotcheck, just looking at formatting/reliability. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 00:55, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

• Ref 26 needs page number; ditto 44, 46, 54, 55, 56
• What's ref 60 pointing to? As far as I can see in the "References" section, there's no British Lichen Society 2022a

I'm not sure why that wasn't working. I had a "ref=" parameter that had the same name as one of the article subsections, and for whatever reason, it was going to that subsection instead of the reference! I changed the ref name and it's working now. (The ref was already there.) MeegsC (talk) 17:13, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

• Some ISBNs are not properly hyphenated, like Baron 1999; https://ataraxic.net/isbn-tool/ can be used to convert them to proper isbns

Done. MeegsC (talk) 17:13, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

• Kraichak 2018a: no doi? No JSTOR? Not even an SC2ID? If none apply, I'd be surprised if there were no webpage available

Added DOI, S2CID and Researchgate link. MeegsC (talk) 17:13, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

MeegsC - That's all from me, nice work on the prose. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 00:55, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks MyCatIsAChonk! I'll work on fixing these and will let you know when I'm done. MeegsC (talk) 11:39, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

MeegsC, any update? AryKun (talk) 16:08, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Sorry AryKun! I've just spent a month in the field and got back late last night. I plan to finish this up in the next few days. MeegsC (talk) 13:08, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

AryKun and MyCatIsAChonk, I've added page numbers for all but ref 56. The online version I used before is now offline, so I'm trying to find someone with access to it who can help me determine that number. Will let you know as soon as I can! Does everything else look okay? MeegsC (talk) 21:26, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

All looking good so far, thanks for the notif! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 22:46, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

Okay MyCatIsAChonk and AryKun, I've finished adding page numbers for all refs that have them (i.e. everything other than websites). Anything else? MeegsC (talk) 11:14, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Support - lovely work! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 11:45, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

SilverTiger

I was ignoring this FLC for weeks because I've never read an outline before... then I read this one, and loved it. It's a comprehensive guide of where to find most of the articles about lichen, arranged into a carefully curated half-list, half-article. So now I have some comments.

• First off, given the definition-style lede, it might be worthwhile to add the pronunciation of lichen there too.
• The "What is a lichen?" section is confusing- it doesn't really explain, and for some reason it drills down to family level when lichen are apparently multiple classes.
  • SilverTiger12, I've tried to expand this a bit to better explain. Does this help? Or do I need to add more?
    • Yes, it makes much more sense now that you've explained which bionts fall where. Thank you.
• Nature of lichens/Morphology: these are very technical terms, not very accessible to a layperson. Please read through this section again and consider if anything can be phrased more clearly, a little less technical/jargon-y.
  • There's a template {{Plural form}}, please implement that in the morphology section.

    I didn't know about that template! Thanks for that.

• Periods. Please put these at the ends of the various definitions (not just in the morphology section_; the current usage is inconsistent.
• There are some lists of lichen species by genus; I request that you link to these in the Genera subsection. I.e. 468. Lecanora (list)

  What a great idea! Done.

• Species subsection - is there no more recent source for the number of lichen species than 2009?
• Growth forms: calicioid, and cladoniform are listed here as subtypes, but the main article indicates the situation is more complicated than that. Meanwhile on the main article, I was confused when areolate and placodioid appeared to be treated as types rather than subtypes (though that is out of the scope of this FLC).

  Yeah, a lot of that section (and the lichen article in general!) needs cleaning up. Lichen growth forms is more recent and comprehensive.

• Lichens by substrate: I'm a bit confused by the pattern of type and subtype here: Is endophloeodal the umbrella for all plant-tissue-dwelling lichens, and thus, would not bryophilous, corticolous, foliicolous, and lignicolous be subtypes of it?
  • Please clarify that lignifcolous grow on wood stripped of bark.
  • Why is ramicolous the only direct subtype of endophloeodal? By the limited definitions given, it'd be a subtype of corticolous.

    I've removed endophloedal as a separate list item, per comment below; it can be added as a subsection in several appropriate articles (orticolous, foliicolous, ramicolous, etc.). It had been indented incorrectly, and should have been on the same level as "ramicolous".

  • Please change omnicolous' definition to capable of growing on multiple types of substrates and I question whether a blanket statement that all omnicolous lichen can grow on manmade structures is necessary and necessarily accurate.
    • I've changed this to on a variety of substrates. Does that suffice?
      • Yes, that works.
• Not really part of this FLC, but three of the lists of lichen by location are missing the "List of.." from their titles, leading to minorly annoying inconsistencies.

  I've moved two of the articles to "List of..." titles. The third (Lichens of the Sierra Nevada (U.S.)) isn't currently a list, so I didn't move that one.

• Is Fossil lichens intended to one day be a list of fossil lichens? Because if so, change to List of fossil lichens.
• I recommend changing the redlinked Lichens in popular culture to Cultural depictions of lichens (or another title more appropriate); "in popular culture" articles tend to be magnets for cruft and are implicitly biased towards recent/modern culture. If it isn't depictions so much as uses, then uses of lichens.
• Is "Trouble with Lichen" really that relevant to the topic of lichen as a whole? Either way, book titles should be italicized.

And that's all for now. Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 16:55, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Okay, two further notes after doing some digging:

• It looks like, back in August on the lichen task force's talk page, the completeness of the list of lichen genera was questioned. Has this been rectified?
• There's a list of common names of lichen genera that isn't listed anywhere on this outline, and should be.

Now that should be all. Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 17:07, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

Thanks SilverTiger12! I'll get working on these, and will strike out what I've completed. MeegsC (talk) 19:18, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

• • I've responded to your queries above, and overall I believe this outline has improved. My only remaining concern is the one Esculenta, actually, raised about the completeness of the list of lichen genera. Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 16:13, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

    Since my concerns about the genera list's comprehensiveness have essentially been addressed (below), I am going to go ahead and Support. Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 18:29, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

comments from Esculenta

• I suggest that Endophloeodal lichen doesn't need a redlink, and a link to the glossary definition will suffice for Wikipedia; at most, maybe a separate section in the article corticolous lichen. A Google Scholar search of the term (enclosed in quotes) brings 0 hits, while without quotes, it's less than a couple of hundred–typically mentions of the word used as a descriptive term in lichen descriptions. Esculenta (talk) 20:32, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
  • @Esculenta:, since you were the one who previously raised this concern- is the list of lichen genera in this outline up-to-date in your opinion? I don't really know how to go about checking. Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 16:13, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

    I think it's probably very close! MeegsC has added many genera since I mentioned this; the only way I could know for sure is to spend several hours comparing the genus list in the outline to the set {Category:Lichen genera + redlinked genera in family articles} (which I'm sure MeegsC has already done). Esculenta (talk) 16:46, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

    • Still working on checking, with another couple of years to go. I plan to be done by the end of the weekend. MeegsC (talk) 17:22, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

      • Okay, I think I've finally finished – though undoubtedly I'll stumble across a few more as we clean up various lichen family articles over the coming months and years. MeegsC (talk) 17:36, 22 October 2023 (UTC)

• Image review – All of the images used in the article appear to have appropriate free licenses, captions and alt text. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:35, 27 October 2023 (UTC)

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List of Hot Soul Singles number ones of 1978

Nominator(s): ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:57, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

We carry on through the 1970s with the latest offering in this series, as for the first time the P-Funk mothership landed at the top of the chart. Feedback as ever will be most gratefully received and swiftly acted upon....... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:57, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Pseud 14

• After three weeks in the top spot the single was displaced by "Bootzilla" -- comma after top spot
• "Theme Song from 'Which Way Is Up'" and "It's You That I Need" respectively -- comma after "It's You That I Need"
• For the table header add {{abbr|Ref.|Reference}}
• Perhaps the info about "Serpentine Fire" should be mentioned in the lead instead, as it doesn't really serve a purpose being stated as a "key" and never utilized in the table, or you could also add an image of Earth, Wind and Fire and use it as a caption?
• That's all I have. Excellent work as usual. Pseud 14 (talk) 23:31, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

@Pseud 14: - thank you for your review and your kind words. All the above points have been actioned! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:20, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

• Great job. Support. Pseud 14 (talk) 12:43, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

MyCatIsAChonk

• No song went on Billboard's year-end soul chart, as seen in past years?
  • @MyCatIsAChonk: See the Earth Wind and Fire image caption (and related comment from Pseud above, which led to this edit.....) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:30, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
• Whitburn only needs to be linked in the first template under "Works cited"

ChrisTheDude, all done, lovely work MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 01:17, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Support MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 11:07, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Dank

• Standard disclaimer: I don't know what I'm doing, and I mostly AGF on sourcing.
• Checking the FLC criteria:
• 1. Nothing is jumping out at me as a prose problem. I checked sorting on all sortable nonnumeric columns and sampled the links in the table.
• 2. The lead meets WP:LEAD and defines the inclusion criteria.
• 3a. The list has comprehensive items and annotations.
• 3b. The list is well-sourced to reliable sources, and the UPSD tool isn't indicating any actual problems (but this isn't a source review). All relevant retrieval dates are present.
• 3c. The list meets requirements as a stand-alone list, it isn't a content fork, it doesn't largely duplicate another article (that I can find), and it wouldn't fit easily inside another article.
• 4. It is navigable.
• 5. It meets style requirements. At a glance, the images seem fine.
• 6. It is stable.
• Support. Well done. - Dank (push to talk) 04:36, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

NØ

• Image review - pass: The images are appropriately licensed in line with the ones on prior lists in this series.
• Source review - pass: The sources used follow a consistent format and are reliable for the purposes they are used. There is no uncited claim in the article.
• Support--NØ 09:23, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Support from BennyOnTheLoose

Great work, as usual. Happy to support. (It Looks like Sean O'Hagan (journalist) could be wiki-linked.) BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:46, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

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List of Baltimore Ravens seasons

Nominator(s): ULPS ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:38, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

This is my third National Football League FLC, coming after List of Houston Texans seasons. This list documents the 27 seasons played by the Baltimore Ravens in the NFL. Unlike the Texans, they've had a little more success. Thanks in advance to everyone who provides their feedback :) ULPS ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:38, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Comments

• "Over their 27 seasons in the NFL, the Ravens have become a successful team, compiling the third highest regular season record among active franchises" - this makes it sound/could be interpreted as saying they have the third best record over those 27 seasons but (if I understand the source correctly) they have the third best record of all time among active franchises, some of which have existed since the 1920s. I would suggest rewording to "Over their 27 seasons in the NFL, the Ravens have become a successful team; their record of [insert all the numbers here] is the third-best all-time regular season record among active franchises"
• "The Ravens have won two Super Bowl championships in franchise history" - I think the last three words are redundant as obviously the wins came during franchise history
• "In addition to their their two Super Bowl wins" - there's a duplicate word in there
• Any chance you could move the Poe and Lewis images to the right of the table? Having them where there at present causes (on my screen at least) massive whitespace below the key. The Flacco and Harbaugh images could go there too
• Alternatively, moving the awards key above the table might reduce the whitespace issue
• Poe image caption needs a comma after Edgar Allen Poe
• Think that's it :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:15, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

  @ChrisTheDude:  Done all, except for the image stuff. The images actually are aligned right, however, since the table is so large they cannot go to the right of the table without causing massive issues on smaller screens. When I test on my smaller screen, I see a little whitespace but nothing glaring. Is there any way you can send me a screenshot of what's going on? (Discord, email, etc.) Or at least if you can tell me your screen size that would be helpful. If you could see how List of Houston Texans seasons is formatted and if it's better for you that would be helpful too :) ULPS ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:33, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

• Support - I guess the whitespace isn't that big a deal -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:21, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

  I ended up just removing most images, I also changed the format so that the keys are close to each other. The images aren't really required (none of the other season FLs have them) so I think this solution works, but if someone disagrees feel free to revert. I'm not sure how widespread that whitespace issue is, but if it's on most smaller laptop screens like I suspect it is probably best to avoid having it since many may experience it. If anyone knows of a way to cause line breaks in tables for small screens without forcing them on large screens, that would work as well but I don't think that's possible. ULPS ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:46, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

• Comment: This is a drive-by comment, but if you utilized the {{Abbr}} template for the awards, you could lose the whole awards key which takes up a ton of space in the article. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:21, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

  Perhaps I'm missing something, but when you wikilink an abbreviation, the abbreviation won't display, only the linked page. So it seems to be better to have the key. Plus that key helps a little with whitespace issues on smaller screens since I want to keep at least one image lol. ULPS ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:05, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

  Sorry, {{Abbrlink}} is the correct template. This displays the tooltip even with the link. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 18:33, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

   Done: Considering that image might get deleted anyway, it's hardly a reason. ULPS ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:46, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

MyCatIsAChonk

• Is the table headers being unsortable standard? I don't see why some columns would be intentionally unsortable

ULPS, nothing else from me, lovely work! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 00:03, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

@MyCatIsAChonk: From my quick checks, none of the other season FLs have sortable table headers. ULPS ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:30, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Support then, nice work! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 19:44, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

MrLinkinPark333 verification check

• "The team began play in 1996 as a result of former Cleveland Browns owner Art Modell's decision to move the Browns to Baltimore." - source needed as it's not covered by ESPN.
• "the third-best all-time regular season record" - I think this should be clarified that it's their win-loss percentage.
• "fourth best playoff record" - same thing that this should be clarified as win-loss percentage.
• A source to show that the 2012 Divisional Playoffs was 2OT is needed.
• Source needed to show Greg Roman was Assistant Coach of the Year was 2019.
• Similarly, duplicate Assistant Coach of the Year award for 2019 needs to be removed. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:32, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

  @MrLinkinPark333: I think I got everything :) ULPS ^{(talk • contribs)} 01:19, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

  Support - thank you for the quick changes :) MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:32, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

• Image review – The lead photo has an appropriate free license, caption and alt text, unlike this mental image, which I will forever consider inappropriate. :-) Giants2008 (Talk) 21:22, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

  I'm a Pats fan, so I'll always have a few inappropriate mental images of the Giants ;) ULPS ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:54, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

• Source review – Adding to the spot-check that was done earlier, source reliability and formatting both look fine throughout the list of references. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:17, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

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List of World Heritage Sites in Germany

Nominator(s): Tone 12:35, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

I got a suggestion to nominate Germany for a FLC in one of the previous nominations. I got it in shape faster than I thought, luckily the article was already quite extensive so I just had to fix the map and rewrite some descriptions which were copy-paste from the source earlier. Standard style. A long one this time, but luckily the tentative list is short. I suppose India is coming next, which is even longer, overall. The nomination for Latvia is seeing support so I am adding a new nomination. Tone 12:35, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

GWL

Oh damn, this is a big one. I'll look into the main list later. I've put invisible comments to divide my comments based on sections. GeraldWL 05:44, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Long one indeed. I think I will wait until you are through the list and fix the issues in one sitting :) Tone 15:42, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

Done! Feel free to look at 'em now :) GeraldWL 03:59, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

I am through. I think I solved all. Thank you, very good comments. Tone 10:19, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Re-checked the list and it looks all resolved now! Happy to support another part of this fascinating series. GeraldWL 10:28, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

Resolved comments from GeraldWL 10:28, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

* "which have been" can be removed and it still retains the same message; the ick here is with the repetition of which "which have been nominated by countries which are signatories..." Removed the second which, I tried removing the first but does not sound right somehow. "World War II" not "the World War II" "West and East Germany" to be simpler and less repetitive "the German reunification took place on 3 October 1990"-- per its article, the reunification actually spanned two years. If this is talking about German's UNESCO ratification as a single country, it must be specified thus. decapitalize "World" "finally delisted"-- I think "finally" is unecessary, plus it leans on the border of neutrality I put eventually. Ultimately would work as well, I suppose. Why not include the reference numbers? That's the style I have been using for these lists. Sometimes the nominations are updates and so do the numbers, so they are kind of less fixed than the listed sites. I think the sentence can be rewritten to "This site comprises the buildings of a multidisciplinary foundation established in 1698 in Halle by theologian and educator August Hermann Francke, inspired by the Pietism movement." "southern Italy and North America"-- add a comma since you also apply Oxford comma in the previous sentences "the Ashkenazi community of Hamburg" --> "the local Ashkenazi community" Shouldn't 1 and 600 be separated by a comma, since it isnt a year? I think some of the regions in the site column can be linked to their articles, i.e. Werdenfelser Land I think Alpine should be linked, but meadows is overlinking For the small villa link: I think the preceding "a" should also be part of the pipe "second half" per WP:SPELL09 Should give a brief description of what Kulturdenkmal and Deutsche Stiftung Denkmalschutz are "Constructed under Charlemagne" --> "Constructed under the rule of Charlemagne" "the Palatine Chapel" --> "the cathedral's Palatine Chapel" "The Roman colony at Trier was founded in the 1st century AD." Why is the AD needed, since in previous mentions of centuries you don't put them? "profited from the mining" --> "profited from it" "the Enlightenment" --> add "Age of" to be more specific "when philosophers Hegel and Hoffmann"-- would prefer using the more complete name (following the Wikipedia article title) since just using surnames can be ambiguous "completet in 1129"-- typo "as well as numerous technological innovations developed here"-- probably a better idea to use "there" than "here" "Tree buildings"-- typo "the ideas of the Enlightenment"-- add "Age of" Decapitalize the M in all "Modern" or "Modernist" or "Modernism" "between Bingen and Koblenz"-- add comma after "with Lorelei rock"-- with the "in the 2nd century CE"-- similar to the AD comment "with Silk Road places"-- with the "especiall during"-- typo Add the before Großsiedlung Siemensstadt "In Germany, five forests were added in 2011, Kellerwald is pictured." Comma after 2011 should be full stop; "the Kellerwald mountain range" "Eighteen sites are located in Germany, the"-- comma after Germany. "an outstanding example of a Baroque court theatre"-- what makes it outstanding? "of the Viking Age Europe" --> "of Europe during the Viking Age" Link danube, North Sea Jewish-Medieval Heritage should probably be put next to Speicherstadt since the list order is by year of inscription.

MyCatIsAChonk

• The most recent addition were four sites in 2021 - was four sites? Or should addition be plural?
  • Ha, this was outdated, fixed.
• The use of "pictured" is inconsistent; IMO, it should be in every box to clarify what's being shown. If not that, then it must be added to places like Pilgrimage Church of Wies, which has no "pictured" in the desc despite being a photo of the structure itself
  • Well, I am using this wording if it is not obvious what is on the photo, like, if there are five buildings listed and I show one. If it is just one church, it is kind of redundant.
• The ironworks that operated until 1986 to produce pig iron. - this is an incomplete sentence; it's fine in a caption, but as far as I can tell all the other descs use full sentences
• the buildings of Shaft 12 are distinguished from architectural point of view. - from an architectural POV?
• some of which have been renovated in the 19th century - some of which were renovated?
• The Roland, dating to 1404, is a statue of a knight, representing Roland, knight of Charlemagne, that symbolizes freedom. - this sentence contains way too many commas; I'd be much easier to read if you put it all together "The 1404 statue Roland is a statue of a knight representing knight of Charlemagne Roland, who symbolizes freedom."
• The sites in Germany and the Netherlands were inscribed to the World Heritage List in 2009, the property in Denmark was added in 2014 - missing a conjunction after the comma
• They consititute one of the largest historical ensembles of warehouses in the world, together with related port infrastructure. - typo in "consititute"; also, "together with related port infrastructure" is an odd addendum to the sentence since the first bit is about large warehouses- if you feel it's necessary to include, move it to the start of the sentence: Along with related port infrastructure, they constitute..."
• The buildings of the colony (the Wedding Tower from 1908 and one of the exhibition halls pictured) - which hall? From what I see in the photo, only one hall is pictured
  • There are several halls, one of them is pictured. I think this is clear enough.

Tone, all done- very nice work as usual! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 23:37, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

• • Thank you, I am through with checking. --Tone 05:55, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

    Support - btw, if you get any time, would appreciate any comments here; thanks! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 19:48, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Comments

• "which was designated a World Heritage in Danger in July 2006" - I don't think "a World Heritage in Danger" works. Suggest "which was added to the List of World Heritage in Danger in July 2006"
• "It serves as a burial place of German emperors for almost 300 years" => "It served as a burial place of German emperors for almost 300 years"
• "They are the prominent example of a large princely residence" => "They are a prominent example of a large princely residence"
• "monopolised trade in much of the Northern Europe until the 16th century" => "monopolised trade in much of Northern Europe until the 16th century"
• "additional areas were addedd to the site in 1992 and 1999" => "additional areas were added to the site in 1992 and 1999"
• "This site comprises six buildigns" => "This site comprises six buildings"
• "Among the many artists and writers" => "Among many artists and writers"
• "majority of the today's structure dates to the 19th century." => "majority of today's structure date to the 19th century."
• "home to the species such as" => "home to species such as"
• "the factory manufacturing shoe last" => "the factory manufacturing shoe lasts"
• "The famous feature of the choir are" => "The famous feature of the choir is"
• "The latter were for generations prevented to practice their traditions" => "The latter were for generations prevented from practising their traditions"
• "the site was placed to the List of World Heritage in Danger in 2006" => "the site was placed on the List of World Heritage in Danger in 2006" -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:13, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

  Fixed all, thanks! Tone 10:20, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:47, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

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List of international goals scored by Emmanuel Adebayor

Nominator(s): Idiosincrático (talk) 04:43, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Emmanuel Adebayor is a Togolese former footballer who played for the Togo national team for almost two decades, he also played for European giants such as Arsenal, Manchester City and Real Madrid. With the national team he scored 32 goals in 87 caps (excluding a non-FIFA rec cap, according to the RSSSF), cementing himself as arguably the greatest football export from Togo.

I created this list a few months ago and I now believe it is FL standard. This is the 7th list of international goals I've nominated for featured status and I think these are almost always a speedy review due to their simplicity. Thanks in advance. Idiosincrático (talk) 04:43, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Comments

• "87 FIFA recognised" => "87 FIFA-recognised" (also in the image caption)
• "He made his international debut against Zambia on 8 July 2000 in a FIFA World Cup qualification match, he scored" - comma before "he scored" should be a semi-colon
• "qualification win against Swaziland (Eswatini since 2018) on 11 October 2008, he scored four goals in the match" - so should that one
• "Adebayor helped Togo qualify for their first and only FIFA World Cup" - I would change that to simply "their first FIFA World Cup", as it might not be their only one forever
• "With the remainder of his goals, five, have come in friendlies." => "The remainder of his goals, five, have come in friendlies."
• "Adebayor scored in his final game for Togo against Benin in March 2019, he later" - comma should be a semi-colon
• "helped glorify Togolese football" - I really don't think that "glorify" is the right word here. I would suggest "helped raise the profile of Togolese football"
• "Does not include the match against Burkina Faso on 14 August 2012, it was not considered a full A-international match by FIFA, but it is for the Togolese Football Federation." => "Does not include the match against Burkina Faso on 14 August 2012. The match is not considered a full A-international match by FIFA, but is by the Togolese Football Federation."
• That's what I got....... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:59, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

  All addressed. Cheers @ChrisTheDude. Idiosincrático (talk) 09:29, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:33, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

MyCatIsAChonk/Source review

I see no issues with the content and prose, so great job! I'll do a source review while I'm at it- no spotcheck needed, looking at formatting/reliability. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 11:51, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

• Is AfroSport Now reliable?
• All the links to National Football Teams are showing up dead for me. If that's the case for you too, add "dead" to the url-status= parameter

Idiosincrático, I got nothing else, very nice work MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 11:51, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

I wasn't 100% sure on the AfroSport Now citation as it seems to be a relatively new outlet, I've changed the phrasing a bit and replaced it with a few other sources including Sports Illustrated, Goal and Vanguard Nigeria, which is seemingly rather reputable. As for the National football teams sources, each of the links are working for me and the website is working very well, its a site used commonly on these types of articles. Perhaps the site is geoblocked for where you live, or maybe an ad-blocker? Cheers @MyCatIsAChonk. Idiosincrático (talk) 05:46, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Support MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 10:58, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

• Support -- Phikia (talk) 14:15, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

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List of international goals scored by Davor Šuker

Nominator(s): Idiosincrático (talk) 03:50, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Davor Šuker is a Croatian former professional footballer who represented both the Croatia and Yugoslavia national teams during the 1990s and early 2000s. He only made two appearances for Yugoslavia and as of nominating he is Croatia's all time top scorer with 45 goals. I had only created his list of international goals recently, but I'm very confident that this list meets FL standard. Thanks in advance :) Idiosincrático (talk) 03:50, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

MyCatIsAChonk

• Add Template:Use British English or otherwise appropriate
• Wl striker; could be to an appropriate wikipedia page, or perhaps wikitionary has an entry
• it was Croatia's second game since reforming the national football association in the early 1990s, the team previously had not played a match since 1956. - some sort of conjunction is needed after the comma; something like "since reforming the national football association in the early 1990s, as the team previously"
• Wl hat-trick
• Remove wl from France, since it's already a well-known place
• Image caption: Šuker scored two international hat-tricks for Croatia, they were scored against Estonia and Australia in 1995 and 1998 respectively. - replace the somma with a semicolon

Idiosincrático, that's all I got, nice work! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 14:49, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Cheers @MyCatIsAChonk, all addressed :) Idiosincrático (talk) 04:24, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Support - lovely job! By the way, if you get any time, would appreciate any comments at this FLC- thanks! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 12:26, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Comments

• "it was Croatia's second game since reforming the national football association in the early 1990s, as the team previously had not played a match since 1956." => "it was Croatia's second game since reforming the national football association in the early 1990s; the team previously had not played a match since 1956."
• "He made his official debut for Croatia on 22 October 1992 against Mexico, during the friendly match at the Stadion Maksimir he scored a brace" - the comma after Mexico should be a comma. Also, why not just say he scored two goals, rather than the slightly slangy "a brace"? If you are really keen to use the term "brace", please wikilink it, as I am reasonably sure people who don't follow football really closely will have no idea what it means.
• "In combination with his impressive club career" - this doesn't really work, as you don't say what his club career is being considered in combination with. I would suggest changing it to "Based on his international performances and his impressive club career...."
• "Does not include match for Croatia against Romania on 22 December 1990, the friendly was not recognised by FIFA" => "Does not include match for Croatia against Romania on 22 December 1990, which was not recognised by FIFA"
• That's it, I think! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:26, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

  All addressed, I assumed that you meant a semi-colon after Mexico for your second suggestion, Cheers @ChrisTheDude. Idiosincrático (talk) 00:54, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

  I did indeed :-) Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:17, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Phikia

• I think {{Serbia national football team}} should be removed from the article. Davor Šuker played for Yugoslavia and Croatia national teams. He did not represent Serbia. -- Phikia (talk) 14:00, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

• I was thinking of doing the same, but as the Serbia FA inherited the results and statistics of both Yugoslavia and FR Yugoslavia/Serbia & Mont, I decided to add it to the template. The template also includes the result history of the Yugoslav national teams such as their famous 1930 World Cup 4th place. I think it would be a good idea to clarify that Yugoslav date/results are included in the template, I'll add a note on it now... Idiosincrático (talk) 06:30, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
• @Phikia, are you content with the changes to the template? It's a far better reflection of Yugoslavia/Serbia's football heritage. Idiosincrático (talk) 07:05, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

  Sorry for the delay in responding. I still feel that Template:Serbia national football team should be removed from this article. Davor Šuker made 68 appearances for Croatia from 1990 to 2002; he then served as the president of the Croatian Football Federation from 2012 to 2021. Croatia–Serbia football rivalry is listed in Template:Serbia national football team. I think it's weird that Davor Šuker is also listed in Template:Serbia national football team. -- Phikia (talk) 15:45, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

  @Phikia: Done. Idiosincrático (talk) 10:22, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

  Support -- Phikia (talk) 01:08, 18 October 2023 (UTC)

• Image review – Both of the photos used in the article have appropriate free licenses and captions. While maybe not strictly an FL requirement, it would be nice to see alt text added to the images for greater accessibility. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:22, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

  Done @Giants2008. Idiosincrático (talk) 02:47, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

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List of cranes

Nominator(s): AryKun (talk) 20:14, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

List of tapaculos already has three supports, so here we are with our next order of birds. Cranes are definitely more interesting than tapaculos, and more importantly, had up-to-date IUCN refs on their articles instead of me having to go out and format 60 different references manually (the joys of editing, I tell you). Thanks for reviewing! AryKun (talk) 20:14, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

MyCatIsAChonk

• The Clements Checklist of Birds of the World and HBW and BirdLife Taxonomic Checklist should be italicized
  • Done.
• Header: Genus Grus – Brisson, 1760 – 8 species - Grus is linked to a disambig page
  • Fixed.
• The top image should have no period at the end of its caption, since the caption isn't a complete sentence
  • Done.

AryKun, that's all, lovely work. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 21:31, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

MyCatIsAChonk, addressed all. AryKun (talk) 05:35, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Support - if you get any time, I'd appreciate any comments here- thanks! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 11:03, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Two Tigers

Some quick comments, nothing too major:

• Ref. 1 uses a different format
  • Changed to Cite journal
• Images need alt text (the maps aren't critical, but the pictures of cranes should briefly describe appearances)
  • Added, I think maps don't need alts because the range description provides a sufficient alternative
• If BirdLife International is going to only be linked once in references, it should be at the first occurrence (ref. 3)
  • I currently count 3 such links – either link only 1 or all of them
    • Linked all.

– RunningTiger123 (talk) 00:41, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

• RunningTiger123, see replies inline above. AryKun (talk) 13:17, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Support – RunningTiger123 (talk) 18:23, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Another list! And of some very striking birds, too.

• First off, I suggest you change the section heading for the list proper from "Cranes" to "Gruids" to match previous lists.
  • Done.
• Cranes fly with their necks extended outwards instead of bent into an S-shape and their long legs outstretched. Why is this significant? Does it differentiate them from, say, storks or herons? You might want to note why this fact needs saying.
  • Added that it helps tell them apart from herons; I'd like a better reference for that, but most proper field guides assume that you know this.
• The cladogram is a bit big; I'd say extend it horizontally so the names aren't being pushed down a line but I understand that that involves technical aspects out of your expertise.
  • Expanded.
• Why doesn't the Siberian crane have a range map? There's one in their article.
  • Added.
• All the sources look good, a spot check reveals no issues, and there is (unsurprisingly) no copyvio per Earwig.

Cheers! --SilverTiger12 (talk) 14:57, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

• • SilverTiger12, addressed all. AryKun (talk) 10:56, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

    Support and pass source review. Cheers, SilverTiger12 (talk) 14:13, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Promoting. --PresN 22:32, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

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Angeline Quinto discography

Nominator(s): Pseud 14 (talk) 15:13, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

After bringing Angeline Quinto's list of songs and awards to FL status, here's another related list I am nominating. I've worked on her discography by adding a concise and readable introduction/lead, formatted the tables, and thoroughly searched for RS (publications, newspapers, etc.) that are available online. Happy to address your comments and thanks to all who take the time to review the list. Pseud 14 (talk) 15:13, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Comments

• "Other songs from the album were also released as soundtracks for television shows" - I would say "Other songs from the album were also used on the soundtracks of television shows" would probably be more correct
• "In 2018, Quinto was featured in Dingdong Avanzado's single" => "In 2018, Quinto was featured on Dingdong Avanzado's single"
• For the section currently headed "Usages as soundtracks", I would simply this to "Soundtrack appearances"
• That's all I got. Great work as ever from our leading Filipino pop contributor :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:54, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your review ChrisTheDude, all actioned. Appreciate the very kind words ;) Hope to see more contributors in this space as well. Pseud 14 (talk) 16:04, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:07, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

MyCatIsAChonk

• Under "Soundtrack appearances", the song "And I Love You So" is linked to a different song- is this a cover of that song? Clarify

Yes, the theme of the show is a cover version of the Don McLean song.

• Perhaps include her songs and awards in a "See also" section?

Added

• Add Template:Use American English or other preference

Added

Pseud 14, nothing else from me, fantastic work! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 01:08, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks very much for your review MyCatIsAChonk. All comments actioned. Pseud 14 (talk) 01:49, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Support MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 01:50, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

NØ

• "including four as featured artist" - Shouldn't this be "including four as a featured artist"?
• "In 2011, she won the television talent show Star Power and was signed to a record deal with Star Music" - I'd go for the simpler phrasing "In 2011, she won the television talent show Star Power and signed a record deal with Star Music"
• ""Saan Darating ang Umaga" for Budoy, "Hanggang" for Walang Hanggan, "Nag-iisang Bituin" for Princess and I, and "Kung Ako'y Iiwan Mo" for the series of the same name" - Were they used "for" the shows or "in" the shows? I could be wrong here

I think "in" is much more appropriate as you suggested. Pseud 14 (talk) 20:33, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

That's it from me. Would be more than happy to support once these are addressed. I've put up an FAC in case you are interested.--NØ 19:48, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for your review MaranoFan. All comments have been actioned. Let me know if I might have missed anything. Did a media review for your FAC and will endeavor to review the prose soon. Pseud 14 (talk) 20:33, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

• Support--NØ 21:47, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Abacusada

Hi! It is pleasing to see you are working on another discography of a Filipino artist! I am happy to review. I will be reviewing this revision.

• I see a lot of capitalization issues with the title of works, especially those written in Filipino:
  • "Patuloy Ang Pangarap", "Sana Darating ang Umaga", "Kunin Mo Na Ang Lahat Sa Akin", and others – There are inconsistencies in the capitalization of Filipino articles. Since the Filipino article "ang" is used as an article here (an equivalent to the English word "the"), it should be written in lowercase, the same as for other entries in the lead and the list (MOS:TITLECAPS).
  • Filipino prepositions and conjunctions (e.g., sa, pero) in song titles, such as "Kunin Mo Na Ang Lahat Sa Akin" and "Parang Tayo, Pero Hindi" should be written in lowercase.
  • In the "Singles / As featured artist" section, the preposition "With" in "In Love With You" should be written in lowercase (MOS:5LETTER).
  • In the "Soundtrack appearances" section...
    • ...the letter "l" in "lahat" in "Kunin Mo Na Ang lahat Sa Akin" should be capitalized.
    • ..."Nag-Iisang Bituin" should be written as "Nag-iisang Bituin".
    • ..."Maghihintay Sa'Yo" should be written as "Maghihintay Sa'yo".
    • ..."Fall In Love Again" should be written as "Fall in Love Again".
• Is there any particular reason why Ladzkie is all capitalized ("Aking Pagmamahal" featuring LADZKIE)? I think it can just be written in title case instead, the same for the other entry in the list (MOS:ToW/TE).
• Under the "Albums" section, the sources provided do not seem to verify or mention whether all her albums are released in CD and LP formats.

The media itself is the primary source (i.e. Daya discography, Julia Michaels discography). Pseud 14 (talk) 19:19, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

That seems fine to me. Crossed out.

• I would remove the second link to PARI (specifically the one in the same row as Fall in Love Again) in the table under the "Studio albums" section since it is not a sortable table, and it's linked to the previous row, similar to what has been done to other FLs.
• The table in the "Reissues" section is titled List of reissues, with sales figures and certifications, where no sales figures and certifications are present. Just title it List of reissues.
• Under the "Promotional singles" section, I think it will be misleading if you use rowspan for the Himig Handog P-Pop Love Songs since it gives the impression that those songs belong to the same album when they are not. Each is part of a similarly titled album released at a different time. I suggest removing the rowspan and adding the year after the album's title (i.e., Himig Handog P-Pop Love Songs 2013 and Himig Handog P-Pop Love Songs 2014, respectively).
• This one is just a question: how do you identify if a song is a single / promotional single?

Per WP:PROMOSINGLE there is no black and white distinction in the day and age of streaming. But for this list, and consistency with previous work, they would fall under songs that have not receive the same amount of attention as a proper single, used in ad campaigns, or included in a compilation release. Pseud 14 (talk) 19:19, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

I will bear this in mind. Thanks!

This is my first time giving an entire review for an FLC, so feel free to object to any of my comments. Most of my comments are just about changes in capitalization by Filipino practice. This list is a solid list and deserves that star. Best of luck with your nomination! (P.S., Please do ping me once you are done in addressing them.) – Abacusada (t • c) 12:11, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the review Abacusada. All actioned. Pseud 14 (talk) 19:19, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

@Abacusada: Anything else? Pseud 14 (talk) 02:34, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi, Pseud 14! Thanks for the courtesy ping, apologies for not replying immediately. You did missed some spots and I will leave it for you to do. For specifics: Some title of works still have Ang capitalized: "At Ang Pangarap", "Piliin Mo Ang Pilipinas", Sana Bukas Pa Ang Kahapon, and "Umiiyak Ang Puso". And I believe that should be it.

@Pseud 14: I forgot to sign, sorry. – Abacusada (t • c) 09:09, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

@Abacusada: Done. Pseud 14 (talk) 12:02, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

I support this nomination. Great work! – Abacusada (t • c) 13:58, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

• Image review – The lead photo has an appropriate free license, caption and alt text. Giants2008 (Talk) 22:36, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

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Alternates of the 12th Central Committee of the Communist Party of Vietnam

Nominator(s): TheUzbek (talk) 14:28, 3 February 2023 (UTC)

I am nominating this for featured list because Vietnamese politics is exciting! Hopefully, you find this list as exciting as I do. This list is modelled on my former FL nominee 12th Politburo of the Communist Party of Vietnam.

I know that communist politics, and Vietnamese politics more generally, is not the sexiest topic in the world, but I hope some of you will take your time to review it. --TheUzbek (talk) 10:51, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Looking at the sources, are the alternates actually notable as a whole? This isn't a big table, why can't it just be merged with Members of the 12th Central Committee of the Communist Party of Vietnam? The External link lists both together and another is called "Portraits of 200 members of the XII Party Central Committee", and 11th Central Committee of the Communist Party of Vietnam has both full members and alternates listed together so I don't think this needs its own article or passes criterion 3c. Reywas92^Talk 13:56, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

There is plenty of coverage of only the alternates, interviews with the alternates and articles on their training. Moreover, I took the decision to make them separate lists based on page constraint. Alternates are future leaders, or at least the Party's attempt to create future leaders of the Party and state. CC members are a whole different category and are elected based on representing of provinces, government ministries, and party positions, et cetera. More rules in this area also mean more information and less space to write it on (regarding the members of the 12th CC).

I could, of course, have nominated "Members of the 12th Central Committee of the Communist Party of Vietnam" first, but I am already confident that that list will have as much text as the 12th Politburo based on already gathered material.

I am, therefore, very confident in my decision. But to prove you wrong I will begin writing the text for the "Members of the 12th CC" now during this nomination process to prove my point. TheUzbek (talk) 14:36, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

See changes Members of the 12th Central Committee of the Communist Party of Vietnam. Still more changes ahead and I will expand the lead further (but not by adding new paragraphs). My point? It's good to have two separate lists. TheUzbek (talk) 09:12, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Hi, you never followed up your comment... TheUzbek (talk) 12:06, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay, I wasn't watching this page. You've improved the main list quite nicely, but I still don't see why the 1.5 paragraphs in the lead that are about the alternates and the small list of 20 people can't be included in the main list as well. Reywas92^Talk 04:30, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

A lead in a list can only be four paragraphs: the lead of the 12th members has already maxed out. I've increased the lead of the alternates again. Now its three paragraphs.

Its very simple: alternates and members do not hold the same posts and have different powers and different responsibilities.

Can you support the list as is now? TheUzbek (talk) 08:19, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

You move prose out of the lead into a section – there's no restriction that the body many only be the table(s) itself. My other comments would be that simply saying "Undergraduate" or "Graduate" is not very meaningful so this column seems unnecessary, and you don't need background colors for females. Reywas92^Talk 20:11, 3 August 2023 (UTC)

I had to take a psychological break from this discussion.

The problem with discussing with you is that you've completely failed to answer why two different subjects should be on the same list. I've asked you, and you've failed completely to answer it. It is annoying so the least.

Why would I merge these two articles when they are two different topics? Why?

Graduate and undergraduate are the terms that the Party itself uses, and they seem to think it is relevant. Why shouldn't be?

Background colour for females; it was done on the 12th Politburo of the Communist Party of Vietnam, and I see no reason why it shouldn't be done here. TheUzbek (talk) 12:26, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

Pseud 14

This will be a review of prose and structure alone. Also going to wait for Reywas weigh in on TheUzbek's response re criterion 3c concern.

• Be consistent with use or non-use of serial comma(s). i.e. usage in Party's Political Platform, Charter, and resolutions, while in other instances you don't.
  • Done
• cadres could use a wikilink if available for better context, for those of us who are unfamiliar
  • Done
• meet "basically" the same standards -- better off without "basically" as what is conveyed in this sentence doesn't change that it is a standard requirement
  • Done
• I would avoid using transition words consecutively in each sentences. i.e. In addition, Moreover, Therefore. Perhaps only use it sparingly as most of these can be conveyed without them.
  • Done
• At last -- finally or lastly is much more appropriate IMO.
  • Done
• In the table -- since the abbreviation is Ref, the full form should be Reference, since you only use on citation for each.
  • Done
• That's all from me. Pseud 14 (talk) 17:44, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

@Pseud 14: Thanks for reviewing the list! --TheUzbek (talk) 12:05, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Support on prose. Pseud 14 (talk) 15:05, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

NØ

• Are words like "Moreover", "Therefore" and "Lastly" required to start the sentences they are used in in the lead? I have been advised against this sometimes in the past.

Great list. I urgently need some help with one of mine if you have some time. Regards.--NØ 12:14, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

@MaranoFan: Done, removed "Therefore" and "moreover". I kept "lastly." I can review you're FL nom after you've finished reviewing this one. --TheUzbek (talk) 14:22, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

That was the only comment, actually. Great work.--NØ 14:24, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes, but you do support its FL nom? TheUzbek (talk) 14:59, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Source review

No spotcheck needed, focusing on formatting/reliability. Just a note that I can't read Vietnamese, so I won't be able to check for typos in titles. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 01:54, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

• I don't see why Vuving 2017 has to be in a bibliography. Since there's only one sfn to it, I think it's easier to just use it as a reference and put the page number in the page= parameter
• Unrelated, but add Template:Use American English or otherwise appropriate
• Most of the links are marked as dead, so the archived url is displaying in the title. This should not be the case- but "live" in the url-status= parameter
• Unrelated, but why are the female cells under "Gender" marked pink and the male cells aren't marked at all? Or, really, why is gender relevant to this list?

TheUzbek, all done! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 01:54, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Done on all points. Gender is relevant since a) Vietnamese politicians and official media highlight their gender b) gender inequality, and c) representation of sexes in political institutions is often the talk of politics, and that is the case in Vietnam as well, where the Party is striving to reach two-thirds women in leadership position within the next twenty years (if I remember correctly).

Thanks for reviewing the list :) TheUzbek (talk) 14:14, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Pass - great job, I understand why that's relevant, thanks for clarifying! By the way, if you have time, I'd appreciate any comments at this FLC! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 01:19, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much; I will review you're list! TheUzbek (talk) 07:25, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

This nomination has stalled out for a while, so I've gone through and reviewed it myself. I can't say that I feel that I fully understand Vietnamese politics now, but much more so than beforehand! I'm going to go ahead and promote. --PresN 22:31, 21 October 2023 (UTC)

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List of tarsiiformes

Nominator(s): PresN 22:14, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Next animal list: #4 out of 6+capstone for the order Primates, and #33 overall in our series of mammal FLCs, we have another subgrouping of Primates, following the lorisoids, cercopithecoids, and hominoids, with the infraorder Tarsiiformes. We're sticking with the "largest grouping that contains all of the species" naming convention, but while Tarsiiformes lends its name to the list title, it contains only one extant family, Tarsiidae, whose members are in turn called the tarsiids or, more commonly, tarsiers. They're the monkeys with the giant eyes and giant hands, and the all live in forests in a cluster of islands in Southeast Asia. Unlike some of their cousins, instead of sticking to fruit, they'll eat most any insect or animal they can get in their mouth- which isn't much, seeing as they range from a small 8 cm (3 in) long to a... small 16 cm (6 in) long. Plus a tail that's at least twice as long as the rest of them. Tiny monkeys and a tiny family at only 14 species, which was a good breather before the next 100+ species list. As always, the list follows the pattern of the previous lists and reflects previous FLC comments. Thanks for reviewing! --PresN 22:14, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Comments

• "it, along with the Peleng tarsier, pygmy tarsier, and Sangihe tarsier are" - need a comma after "Sangihe tarsier" to close off the clause started by the one after "it"
• Also, as the subject of the verb is "it", the verb should be singular
• "Diet: Flying insects and others" - does the "others" mean other insects?
• That's it, I think! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:20, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

• @ChrisTheDude: All done (just condensed the last to insects). Thanks for reviewing! --PresN 13:57, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 14:01, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

MyCatIsAChonk/Source review

• All extinct genera, species, or subspecies listed alongside extant species went extinct after 1500 CE, and are indicated by a dagger symbol "†". - why is this present if none are extinct?
• Dians tarsier says: Diet: Insects, as well as small vertebrates[8], but Gursky's spectral tarsier says Diet: Insects as well as small vertebrates[12] - add or remove comma on all for consistency

That's all I got- no issues with sources, so that passes. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 12:43, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

@MyCatIsAChonk: Removed the dagger bit (it's the template for all these articles, but not needed for this list), added a comma. Thanks for reviewing! --PresN 13:57, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Support MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 15:42, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

AK

• "Groves, Shekelle, 2010" shouldn't there be an and instead of a comma?
• The above comment actually applies to the authorities in most of the multi-authority species.
• The "Insects as well as frogs, lizards, and other small vertebrates" still isn't consistent, Gursky's through Peleng tarsiers lack the commas.
• All I got. AryKun (talk) 11:14, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

• @AryKun: Done and done. --PresN 00:44, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

• Support. AryKun (talk) 07:24, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

SilverTiger

• Shouldn't it be ..members of this infraorder are called tarsiiforms.., without the e?

• I've seen it both ways (and see it both ways when searching now), even in scholarly publications, so am now confused. I went with -es following Macropodiformes and Phalangeriformes (and Primates itself, though I think that's a different Latin setup).

• • • Hm, I can't find any consistency either.
• A few extinct prehistoric hominoid species have been discovered,... I think you're forgetting something...

• Whoops, fixed.

And a quick image review:

• That's a freaky-looking Makassar tarsier.
• All images are appropriately licensed.
• There's an image for the pygmy tarsier on its article.

• It's non-free, so I can't use it in these lists, unfortunately.

Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 23:13, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

@SilverTiger12: Responded inline, thanks for reviewing! --PresN 03:48, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Support and pass image review. --Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 12:54, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

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List of songs recorded by Alessia Cara

Nominator(s): NØ 19:24, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Here's the list of songs recorded by Canadian singer-songwriter Alessia Cara. My interest in her is probably hardly surprising considering "Scars to Your Beautiful" is basically a Meghan Trainor song... A lot of work has gone into making sure this list is comprehensive since Miss Cara does a lot of features so I hope you guys enjoy it. Thanks a lot to everyone who will take the time to give their feedback here.--NØ 19:24, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Drive-by comment

• I will do a full review later, but one thing that jumps out is that you have a key item for "Indicates songs written solely by Alessia Caracciolo", but you don't indicate anywhere in the article that Alessia Caracciolo and Alessia Cara are the same person. I know it's kinda obvious, but it's probably worth making it absolutely clear....... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:20, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks. I added a note.--NØ 08:29, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

More comments

• "Cara has contributed songs to film soundtracks: "How Far I'll Go" (2016) to Moana, "The Other Side" to The Get Down Part II, and "Feel You Now" and "Last Goodbye" (both 2021)" - when you say "both", does that actually cover all three songs mentioned since the first comma?
• The songs starting with "The" are placed alphabetically based on the next word (which is correct), but if you re-sort the table and then sort that column, they all jump to being with the Ts
• Albums starting with "The" sort under T when they should sort based on the next word
• Think that's all I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:17, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

MyCatIsAChonk

• Add Template:Use Canadian English or otherwise appropriate
• three studio albums, three extended plays (EP), one live album, and guest features - add "numerous" before guest features; otherwise, it seems like the "one" from "one live album" is carrying over
• including Logic's "1-800-273-8255" and Zedd's "Stay" in 2017 - not sure if this is the case for pop music, but for classical articles you don't link the artists' name before the song, since one could easily click the article to get to the composer's article

• For modern pop music, I believe we link these, generally.

• Sebastian Kole is sorting by his first name, not last

MaranoFan, that's all I got, great work as usual MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 11:37, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

@ChrisTheDude @MyCatIsAChonk - Thanks for the reviews, guys. Greatly appreciated! I think everything should be sorting properly now.--NØ 18:41, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Support MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 22:41, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:16, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Pseud 14

• Image review: Passed
  • Images are relevant
  • Images are appropriately licensed
  • Images have alt text
• Source review: Passed
  • Link checker shows no issues
  • Reliable enough for the information being cited
  • Consistent date formatting
  • Consistent publisher formatting
  • Appropriate wikilinks where applicable
• Support -- Pseud 14 (talk) 14:55, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

• Thanks for the immensely helpful reviews!--NØ 17:30, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

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List of Hot Soul Singles number ones of 1976

Nominator(s): ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:27, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Here's the 34th nomination in this series of lists and this time round it's all (well, largely) about disco, baby :-) Feedback as ever most gratefully received -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:27, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

MyCatIsAChonk

• Use abbr template in the "Ref" column header

ChrisTheDude, I see nothing else, great work MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 11:05, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

MyCatIsAChonk - very cross with myself for forgetting that :-) Now fixed -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:12, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Support MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 21:08, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Pseud 14

• more than one number one during the year; both acts had two chart-toppers -- more than one number one reads a bit repetitive or in close proximity with each other. Maybe tweak a bit like were the only two acts to achieve more than one chart-toppers, with two each or something alongs those lines.
• That's all I got. Another great work in your series as usual. Pseud 14 (talk) 15:28, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
  • @Pseud 14: - thanks for your review. I've made a slight tweak. Not exactly what you suggested but hopefully it works....... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:40, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
• Reads even better. Support. Pseud 14 (talk) 15:42, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Dank

• Standard disclaimer: I don't know what I'm doing, and I mostly AGF on sourcing.
• Did we ever make a decision on whether "partial subscription needed" applies to Billboard?
• Everything looks great. Here comes the boilerplate.
• Checking the FLC criteria:
• 1. Nothing is jumping out at me as a prose problem. I checked sorting on all sortable nonnumeric columns and sampled the links in the table.
• 2. The lead meets WP:LEAD and defines the inclusion criteria.
• 3a. The list has comprehensive items and annotations.
• 3b. The list is well-sourced to reliable sources, and the UPSD tool isn't indicating any actual problems (but this isn't a source review). All relevant retrieval dates are present.
• 3c. The list meets requirements as a stand-alone list, it isn't a content fork, it doesn't largely duplicate another article (that I can find), and it wouldn't fit easily inside another article.
• 4. It is navigable.
• 5. It meets style requirements. At a glance, the images seem fine.
• 6. It is stable.
• Support. Well done. - Dank (push to talk) 20:32, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
  • One more thing: WP:UPSD puts the New York Post in a category of "source should generally be avoided, but context matters a lot here". If you can find a different newspaper for that story, great; if you can't, then leave it as is. - Dank (push to talk) 16:08, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
  • @Dank: - I replaced that NYP ref. It was only being used to ref that McCoo and Davis had previously been in the Fifth Dimension -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:49, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Support--金色黎明 (talk) 04:21, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

• Source review – Reference reliability and formatting both look okay to me. Giants2008 (Talk) 00:12, 12 October 2023 (UTC)

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List of accolades received by No Time to Die

Nominator(s): Chompy Ace 06:34, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

After the Skyfall accolades article becomes a featured list, I will nominate this one too! Chompy Ace 06:34, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Comments

• "becoming the third consecutive series theme song (starring Craig)...." - this reads a bit oddly, as it kinda sounds like he starred in the songs. I would suggest changing to "becoming the third consecutive theme song from a film starring Craig as Bond....."
• That's it, I think - great work as ever on these lists! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:50, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

ChrisTheDude, done. Chompy Ace 10:53, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, I just thought of something else (on the same sentence). You say "the third consecutive theme song [....] after Skyfall (2012) and Spectre", but Skyfall and Spectre are films, not songs, so you should really name the songs. So it should be "the third consecutive theme song [....] after "Skyfall" (from the 2012 film of the same name) and "Writing's on the Wall" (from Spectre)". Sorry for not thinking of that earlier...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:05, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

ChrisTheDude, done again. Chompy Ace 12:04, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:42, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

MyCatIsAChonk

• If you sort the Recipients header from A to Z, why does "Ana de Armas" sort with the C/Es?

That's it, great work! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 11:03, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

MyCatIsAChonk, Ana is a first name while de Armas is a surname. Chompy Ace 12:04, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Support - thanks for clarifying, great job MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 13:27, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

• Support -- not much to say here, it is like any other accolade list made by Chompy Ace, and the prose is already well-written per the other FLs. Good stuff! GeraldWL 10:09, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

• Image review – The photos in the lead have appropriate free licensing, caption and alt text. No issues to report in this regard. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:08, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

• Source review – Reliability and formatting of the sources book look okay across the board. Giants2008 (Talk) 01:27, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

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Bart Starr Award

Nominator(s): « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 18:31, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

The Bart Starr Award has been presented to an NFL player each year since 1989 on the Saturday before the Super Bowl. The award, named after Green Bay Packers quarterback Bart Starr, is given to a player who exhibits outstanding character and leadership. This is my first FLC in quite some time, so please bear with me. Thank you for your consideration and review. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 18:31, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Hey man im josh

Drive by comment, I'll be back later on to do a more thorough review, but the table does not currently pass an accessibility review (MOS:DTAB). PresN has a standard comment I find helpful for accessibility which can be found here. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:05, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Hey man im josh, did I do this correctly? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:26, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

@Gonzo fan2007: The column scopes are good, and I'm assuming that table title works properly for screen readers, so you're good on that front. The row scopes don't appear to be correct though. I know how to correct it when cells are on new lines in the editor, but I'm not familiar with how to do so when multiple cells are divided by two vertical bars. A sign that you've done it correctly is if the cell that you've applied the scope to is the only one in the row that is shaded grey. See List of National Football League annual rushing touchdowns leaders as an example of this. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:39, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Hey man im josh My understanding is that the grey shading is achieved by the exclamation mark and not row scope field. Since the name of the player is the scope of the row, I'm not sure grey shading down the middle of the table would look appropriate or make sense. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:06, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Oh wow, I guess I just had never realized the correlation, how silly of me. Absent a screen reader, I'm frankly not sure how to check the accessibility. I'll assume it's good for now until PresN does their accessibility review.

One thing I should have mentioned though, I noticed that sort names are not applied to the list. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:07, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

 Done. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:29, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Image review: Passed

• Images are relevant
• Images are appropriately licensed
• Images have alt text

Source review: Passed

• References are reliable for the information being reported
• Consistent date formatting
• Consistent publisher/website formatting
• Appropriate wikilinks where applicable
• Links are archived

Assuming that the rows are properly defined (no screen reader to verify this for myself), I support. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:17, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the image review, source review and your support Hey man im josh, and congrats on the new tools :) Nice to see another Josh get adminship! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:07, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! Hey man im josh (talk) 17:09, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Comments

• Probably worth specifying at the start that this relates to American football. Maybe start with "The Athletes in Action/Bart Starr Award is an American football award given annually..." I know you mention the National Football League in the first sentence, but it is not the only "National Football League" in the world.......
• "The award is presented by Athletes in Action (AIA), which is a sports ministry" => "The award is presented by Athletes in Action (AIA), a sports ministry"
• "The nominee list is compiled from a group of individuals made-up" => "The nominee list is compiled by a group of individuals made up" (as currently worded it indicates that the PR Directors, etc, are considered for nomination)
• "However, some past awardees have been chosen at times by fellow NFL players" => "However, some past awardees have been chosen by fellow NFL players"
• "Bart Starr, the former hall of fame quarterback" - as far as I know he is not a former hall of famer, so change to "Bart Starr, the hall of fame former quarterback"
• "to present the award that bared his name" => "to present the award that bears his name"
• "Since 2015, Tony Dungy and" => "Since 2015, former NFL coach Tony Dungy and" (can't assume readers know who Dungy is)
• "Steve Largent, the former hall of fame wide receiver" - as above
• How come the second and third entries under "see also" are more indented than the first? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:41, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

  ChrisTheDude, thanks for your comments. I implemented all of them except the first. After a quick perusal of other NFL awards, I don't really see a precedent of stating it's an American football award. I understand where you are coming from, but this isn't an American football award per se, it's an NFL award, and the NFL happens to be an American football league. I could add "NFL, an American football league in the United States" but that seems excessive. I think the NFL brand is largest enough that most readers won't mistake a small Irish league with the Internationally known NFL. And even if they do, NFL is linked. Thoughts? On your last question, I double indented those two items because article #2 and #3 are included in article #1. I've seen this done before but don't have a strong feeling either way, so let me know what you think. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:27, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

  After a quick perusal of other NFL awards, I don't really see a precedent of stating it's an American football award - that may be because none of the ones you looked at have been reviewed at FLC, where someone might bring it up. Other NFL-related lists which have been through FLC, such as List of National Football League annual rushing touchdowns leaders, do mention the sport right at the start. it also seems a little odd IMO to say it isn't an American football award when literally the only people eligible to win it are players of American football....... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:07, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

  ChrisTheDude, the example you provided is for an NFL scoring record. It's fairly essential to understand the list itself to first understand how people score in American football, thus it makes sense to have that right off the start. That said, I made this change, I assume that satisfies your concern. Let me know if it doesn't (I really, really don't want to have "Bart Starr Award is an award", which sounds clunky at best). « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 22:01, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:19, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

  Thanks for your review and support! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:59, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

MyCatIsAChonk

• who returned the award after being arrested the night after he received it for soliciting sex from an undercover police officer - "after" twice in close succession is confusing; reword it, perhaps split it into two sentences or just put the reason in an efn
• The "References" header is commonly shortened with the abbr template, so that the column doesn't display so wide: Ref(s)
• Ref 34's website should not be formatted as a link, and wl it
• Fox is unreliable per WP:FOXNEWS, though I'm not sure if Fox Sports applies; still worth bringing up, though

Gonzo_fan2007, all done, great work! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 16:01, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks MyCatIsAChonk for the comments. I implemented your recommendations. Regarding WP:FOXNEWS, I believe this only applies to foxnews.com, not the entirety of Fox's programming. A quick read of WP:FOXNEWS shows that the focus of editor's concerns were politics, science and talk shows. That said, I just updated the source to WCNC in Charlotte, since there were other sources easily available. Cheers, « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:00, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Support - thanks for the quick replies! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 00:10, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your review and support! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:59, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)

• Caption and colscopes are good now, and rowscopes are almost there- you have e.g. | style="text-align: left;" scope="row" | {{sortname|Anthony|Muñoz}}, but to be a "header" cell it needs to be an '!', so ! style="text-align: left;" scope="row" | {{sortname|Anthony|Muñoz}}. That does make it look a little odd to have the third row be the header; consider either using the year column or re-ordering the columns so that the year or name is the first column.
• Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. --PresN 00:54, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

  I do think moving the year column to be the left most column and applying the row scope there makes the most sense. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:14, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

  PresN, excuse my ignorance on this, as it is the first time I have really got into table accessibility issues. Is the table accessible right now? Does the exclamation mark "header" do anything for accessibility or is it's only true function to make that column gray, indicating to the visual reader that it takes precedence or "heads" the remaining data? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 15:59, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

  PresN I updated the table to move the year to the left side. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 18:17, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

  Yep, you're good now. And yes, the '!' marks it as a header cell for multiple purposes, and the wikimedia styling uses that to make it gray (like it does the header cells at the top of the table). --PresN 20:18, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

@FLC director and delegates: with 3 supports and all comments resolved at this point, any prejudice to me nominating another FLC? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 19:28, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Go ahead. --PresN 21:32, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Green Bay Packers presidents/archive1, cheers! « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:01, 3 October 2023 (UTC)

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List of songs recorded by Basshunter

Nominator(s): Eurohunter (talk) 21:51, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

List of songs recorded by Swedish musician Basshunter. The last song "Ingen kan slå (Boten Anna)" was released on 23 June 2023. He has recorded a lot of unreleased tracks like "Livets fard", "Horn of Orcs", "Ni är det bästa som finns" or "The Indian" but they never were mentioned in any publication so I had to omitted them. It previously passed GOCE and was peer-reviewed. Structure is after similar featured lists. Eurohunter (talk) 21:51, 22 July 2023 (UTC)

Comments from MyCatIsAChonk

Surprised to see no comments after three weeks on the market- happy to review. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 15:22, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

• He published his music mainly through the internet. - rather vague, to what sites? BandCamp? YouTube?
  •  Comment: Unfortunately there is no source mention certain websites but I added "for free download on platforms such as chat channels and gaming websites.". Eurohunter (talk) 14:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

  That's better. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 15:15, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

   Done Eurohunter (talk) 16:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

• Every time a year is used as a dependent clause (e.g. "In 2008...") it needs to be followed by a comma. Right now, only some instances have commas.
  •  Done. Commas added. Eurohunter (talk) 14:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
• Same thing for "According to ____...", anytime a clause like that is stated it must be followed by a comma
  •  Done. I added commas but I'm not sure of first case - "According to Swedish magazine Filter, in 2004, Basshunter had already composed up to 300 songs." - not too many commas? Eurohunter (talk) 14:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

  That's just fine. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 15:16, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

• His album, The Old Shit, and The Bassmachine were... - is that not two albums being listed? If not, clarify
  •  Comment: What do you mean by "being listed"? The Bassmachine is a studio album and The Old Shit is a compilation album. Both albums were released at the time in 2006 on Basshunter website. Eurohunter (talk) 14:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

  Now I understand, my confusion was between the difference of the two. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 15:16, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

   Done Eurohunter (talk) 16:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

• Not sure if I'm misunderstanding, but the article for LOL says it was his second studio album, while this article says it was his first- same numbering issue with Now You're Gone
  •  Done. Yes. LOL is the second studio album and Now You're Gone – The Album is the third studio album. I don't know what happened, but I fixed it. Eurohunter (talk) 14:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
• The "Writer" cell for "Al final" needs a cross
  •  Done. Added. Eurohunter (talk) 14:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
• Songs that start with "the" should be sorted by the word after it (e.g. "The Basshunter" should be sorted as "Basshunter, The")
  •  Done. Order changed. Eurohunter (talk) 14:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
  • Same applies to the "Album" column
    •  Done. Order changed. Eurohunter (talk) 14:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
• Footnote "as" has a typo, should read, "Originally released as single, "Welcome to Rainbow" was released on later release of Now You're Gone – The Album.[9]"
  •  Comment: Do you mean just missing comma? I added it. Should I also add comma to note i and t? Eurohunter (talk) 14:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

  Ironically, I think I made a typo in my own comment. Disregard this comment. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 15:18, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

   Done Eurohunter (talk) 16:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

• File:James Lord Pierpont.jpg - source link is dead and it needs an international PD tag
  •  Comment: What do you mean by "international PD tag"? Do you mean that jinglebellschurch.org/history.htm is a dead link? There is archived version, but I don't see anything related. Eurohunter (talk) 14:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

  @Eurohunter, firstly, yes, the archive url needs to be added to be description. Secondly, the tag under "Licensing" only covers its PD status internationally (I got it backwards in the comment, my apologies). It need another tag to cover its status in the US. PD-old-expired should be right. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 15:23, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

   Comment: @MyCatIsAChonk: I added link to archived version. Why it need another tag to cover its status in the United Status? What about Mexico and the other countries? Template PD-old-expired for the United States mention United States Copyright Office, but I don't know if it's registered there. Eurohunter (talk) 16:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

  @Eurohunter, Wikimedia servers are in the US, so they must comply with US copyright law. But, because media on Commons are used across all Wikipedias, media must also be available internationally. Now, I realized an error on my part- how can it be PD in countries with a 70+ author death copyright term if the author is unknown? My bad- PD-anon-expired should be right because it states that it was published before 1928 (making it public domain in the US) and that it was published over 95 years ago (making it public domain in most countries). MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 17:07, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

   Done @MyCatIsAChonk: I changed template PD-old to PD-anon-expired. Eurohunter (talk) 17:14, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Eurohunter, that's all from me, good work! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 15:22, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

 Summary: @MyCatIsAChonk: Your comments have been noted and issues has been taken into account. Some issues require further comments from you. Thank you. Eurohunter (talk) 14:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

See responses above- only one requires further action. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 15:23, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Support- very nice work, all my points have been addressed. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 17:19, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Comments from ULPS

Not too many, (MyCatIsAChonk commented on most of my concerns) but I'll add to them if I see anything else. ULPS ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:29, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

• His album, The Old Shit, and The Bassmachine were released on his website in 2006.. You already mentioned The Bassmachine being released in 2004, as well as his music being released through the internet, what is special about this release that you stated it again? Did it come out for free? Probably clarify.
  •  Comment: Yes, I added it because actually both albums were released on the same time on Basshunter website, so I think just to mention The Old Shit would be not enough or out of context. Eurohunter (talk) 14:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

    I still think it's a bit weird to mention again, perhaps say The Old Shit and The Bassmachine were made available to purchase through his website in 2006? ULPS ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:13, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

     Comment: Yes, they both were released in 2006 on Basshunter website, but only The Old Shit was actually premiered and The Bassmachine was released already earlier in 2004. Eurohunter (talk) 17:03, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

    Then that is fine I guess, no way to really write that without being too clunky. ULPS ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:29, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

     Done Eurohunter (talk) 20:37, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

• The album consisted of seven songs from two previous Basshunter albums, The Old Shit, and all 10 songs from The Bassmachine. I am not quite sure what this is saying, is it 7 songs total from two previous albums, something from The Old Shit and all of The Bassmachine? Why is the number of tracks from The Old Shit not mentioned? The sentence should be reworded for clarity.
  •  Done. I don't know why, but it was kinda unclear. I changed it to "The album mostly consisted of songs from two previous Basshunter albums, 7 songs from The Old Shit, and all 10 songs from The Bassmachine." Eurohunter (talk) 14:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
• The grammar in footnote "b" is a bit off, I believe the meaning is something along the lines of "According to the ACE Repertory, the song "Utan stjärnorna" was co-written by Basshunter and Ali Payami. However, in the 2006 release of Basshunter's "LOL" album, the song, translated as "Without Stars," is credited solely to Basshunter as both the writer and producer.
  •  Comment: It's good idea, but I wanted to mention that LOL had different versions released in different time, and it was just one of the versions. So I would like to use your idea but there need to be mention that it is not the original/first/premier version of LOL - I don't know how to mention it. Eurohunter (talk) 14:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

    I think the way I stated it works (2006 release implies there was another release IMO), but you could say "second release" (or whatever number release it was). You could also say the "2006 re-release" ULPS ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:10, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

     Comment: @ULPS: There is a lot of physical and digital versions - exact release dates are not known for some versions, so then it would be very hard to count if it's 6th or 7th version etc. Eurohunter (talk) 17:03, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

    So why not say the 2006 re-release? ULPS ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:29, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

     Comment: @ULPS: Hard to say. For example, if someone released an album in the United Kingdom on CD then two weeks later the same or other version would be released in Sweden - would we call it a re-release? Eurohunter (talk) 11:35, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

    @Eurohunter: Yeah I guess not. I think the grammar can still be cleaned up from Later 2006 release of LOL album at "Without Stars" it indicates that Basshunter solely written and produced song to On the later 2006 release of LOL at "Without Stars" it indicates that Basshunter solely wrote and produced the song. This doesn't change the meaning, just the grammar. I made this change myself, feel free to revert if you think of something better :) ULPS ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:14, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

    @ULPS:  Comment: I think it's better and I will fix the other cases in the same way. Eurohunter (talk) 15:24, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

    Great! ULPS ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:29, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

     Done Eurohunter (talk) 15:47, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

That's all from me, nice job! ULPS ^{(talk • contribs)} 23:29, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

 Summary: @ULPS: Your comments have been noted and issues has been taken into account. Some issues require further comments from you. Thank you. Eurohunter (talk) 14:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Support ULPS ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:14, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Comments from A Thousand Doors

Resolved comments from A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 20:11, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Looks good overall. These are my edits, please revert if you don't agree with them. "A cover for "Angel in the Night"." Does "cover" here mean the single's cover art?  Done. It was messed during copy edit. It was supposed to mean single, so I chanted it to "A single "Angel in the Night", and cover of "I Miss You" by Westlife were later released.". Eurohunter (talk) 11:50, 21 August 2023 (UTC) "7 songs" -> "seven songs", per MOS:SPELL09.  Done. I usually prefer to use words instead of numbers. Eurohunter (talk) 11:50, 21 August 2023 (UTC) All songs beginning with "The" (including "The Indian") needs to sort under their second word.  Done Eurohunter (talk) 11:50, 21 August 2023 (UTC) Per WP:GALLERY, image galleries like the one in this article generally shouldn't be added. If there's no space to add the images next to the table, as in similar lists, then I'd suggest just removing them altogether.  Comment: Before images were on the right but someone moved them to gallery due to some problem on small screen or mobile version. I would add them on the right again or remove them. Do you have the other idea? Eurohunter (talk) 11:50, 21 August 2023 (UTC)  Done I moved images to the right, featured list of songs recorded by Fiona Apple has wider table and images are on the right. Eurohunter (talk) 18:10, 29 August 2023 (UTC) Citation 31 is a dead link.  Done. Fixed. Eurohunter (talk) 11:50, 21 August 2023 (UTC) My current open FLC is Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Timeline of Brexit/archive1. If you have any time, I'd welcome any comments on it. Thanks, A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 10:30, 21 August 2023 (UTC)  Summary: @A Thousand Doors: Your comments have been noted and issues has been taken into account. Some issues require further comments from you. Thank you. Eurohunter (talk) 14:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC) @A Thousand Doors: What do you think? Eurohunter (talk) 17:46, 5 September 2023 (UTC) Apologies for not responding to this sooner. I have made some further edits here. Please revert if you don't agree with them. The article says that The Bassmachine was released in 2004, but then also says that it was released in 2006. I'm a bit confused by this – was it re-released in 2006, or did Basshunter make it available for free on his website, or something else?  Comment: The Bassmachine was released in 2004 but in 2006 album was released on Basshunter website together with new compilation album The Old Shit. Eurohunter (talk) 11:50, 21 August 2023 (UTC) Maybe you want to use a verb other than "released", then? How about "were made available to buy on his website", or something similar? A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 20:11, 9 September 2023 (UTC)  Done @A Thousand Doors: I think it's a good idea. I changed it to "were made available to buy on his website". Eurohunter (talk) 19:17, 10 September 2023 (UTC) Similarly, "Ingen kan slå (Boten Anna)" needs to be below "In Her Eyes" when the table loads.  Done It's a good question. Should I ignore hyphens, apostrophes, periods, commas and also spaces? I did it right now. Eurohunter (talk) 11:50, 21 August 2023 (UTC) Don't ignore spaces, no. Ideally, when the table first loads, it should match how the table looks when you sort by title. At the moment, if you sort by title, "Bass Worker" jumps above "The Bassmachine", "Här kommer Lennart" jumps above "Hardstyle Drops", "Vi sitter i Ventrilo och spelar DotA" jumps above "Vifta med händerna", and "Fest i hela huse" jumps above "Festfolk" [2006 Remix]. Speaking of which... A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 20:11, 9 September 2023 (UTC)  Comment: So titles with spaces should be on top? Eurohunter (talk) 19:17, 10 September 2023 (UTC) The prose in the fourth paragraph could be improved. At the moment it's just a collection of sentences about the singles from Calling Time, and it just doesn't flow together very well. There's one sentence on "Saturday", then one sentence on "Fest i hela huset", then one sentence on "Northern Light", etc. I don't think you need to go into this granular detail by listing every single from the album. I'm happy to work with you on rewriting this, if you'd like. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 20:11, 9 September 2023 (UTC)  Comment: If you have any better idea for it, let me know. Eurohunter (talk) 19:17, 10 September 2023 (UTC) Okay, here's what I've come up with. Let me know what you think. Thanks, A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 10:40, 11 September 2023 (UTC)  Done. @A Thousand Doors: It looks good. Eurohunter (talk) 17:31, 11 September 2023 (UTC) If LOL was his second studio album, then what was The Old Shit? Was that compilation album?  Comment: Yes The Old Shit was a compilation album. Eurohunter (talk) 11:50, 21 August 2023 (UTC) A compilation of what, exactly? Songs that weren't on The Bassmachine? B-sides? Remixes that he's done? Something else? The lead would benefit from explaining this. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 20:11, 9 September 2023 (UTC)  Comment: Strictly it "consists of songs from two previous Basshunter albums, seven songs from The Old Shit, and all ten songs from The Bassmachine. "Go Down Now" from single "Angel in the Night" and a promotional single "Wacco Will Kick Your Ass" and four unreleased songs.". I think the second sentence not fit well but I don't have idea how to connect it in better way with the first sentence. Eurohunter (talk) 19:17, 10 September 2023 (UTC) It sounds like you're describing The Early Bedroom Sessions there, but I asked about The Old Shit. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 10:40, 11 September 2023 (UTC)  Comment: Oh you mean what is on compilation album The Old Shit. It consists of unreleased tracks. Eurohunter (talk) 17:31, 11 September 2023 (UTC) Okay, I've rewritten the sentence about that album here. Let me know what you think. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 16:02, 16 September 2023 (UTC)  Done @A Thousand Doors: It's okey. Eurohunter (talk) 16:15, 16 September 2023 (UTC) What about table sorting? Titles with spaces should be above these which has no spaces? Eurohunter (talk) 16:15, 16 September 2023 (UTC) This was what I meant. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 14:28, 17 September 2023 (UTC)  Done Eurohunter (talk) 16:56, 17 September 2023 (UTC) Was "Festfolk" [2006 Remix] a new recording, or just a remix of the original "Festfolk"? If it was just a remix, should it be included in this list, since it isn't technically a song recorded by Basshunter? A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 20:11, 9 September 2023 (UTC)  Comment: Hard to say. It's described just as "[2006 Remix]". If you look at 2006 "Vi sitter i Ventrilo och spelar DotA" and 2007 "DotA" - they could describe it also as "Vi sitter i Ventrilo och spelar DotA [2007 Remix]". Instead of it they relead new version as "DotA" in 2007. In the same way there are 2008 "I Can Walk on Water" and 2009 "Walk on Water" instead of "I Can Walk on Water [2009 Remix]". Eurohunter (talk) 19:17, 10 September 2023 (UTC) I've just listened to both tracks, and they sound pretty much the same. It doesn't sound like Basshunter has recorded anything new for the 2006 remix, so personally I think it can be removed, since you don't list any other remixes, but I'll leave that with you to decide. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 10:40, 11 September 2023 (UTC)  Comment: I would keep it. Eurohunter (talk) 15:23, 25 September 2023 (UTC) The final sentence in the thrid paragraph is a sentence fragment. What are you trying to say there? A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 20:11, 9 September 2023 (UTC)  Comment: As above. It is related to compilation album The Early Bedroom Sessions. Eurohunter (talk) 19:17, 10 September 2023 (UTC) It's still an incomplete sentence though, which needs to be addressed. It might be best just to remove it entirely. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 10:40, 11 September 2023 (UTC)  Comment: Let's talk about this issue above. Eurohunter (talk) 17:31, 11 September 2023 (UTC) The final sentence of the third paragraph is "Go Down Now" from single "Angel in the Night" and a promotional single "Wacco Will Kick Your Ass" and four unreleased songs. This is an incomplete sentence and doesn't really make any sense, so I've removed it for now. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 16:02, 16 September 2023 (UTC)  Comment: The Early Bedroom Sessions actually "consists of songs from two previous Basshunter albums, seven songs from The Old Shit, and all ten songs from The Bassmachine" and include ""Go Down Now" from single "Angel in the Night" and a promotional single "Wacco Will Kick Your Ass" and four unreleased songs.". Should I add "and include" - connect two sensence or is it possible to write it in other way? Eurohunter (talk) 16:15, 16 September 2023 (UTC) I just don't think it's necessary to go into that granular level of detail. Here's what I've come up with instead. Let me know what you think. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 14:28, 17 September 2023 (UTC)  Comment: @A Thousand Doors: Okey but there were also four unreleased songs so "The 23-track album consists of songs from The Old Shit and The Bassmachine, plus three songs from Basshunter's early single releases" would mean that all 23 tracks are just from The Old Shit, The Bassmachine and from early single releases while actually 4 tracks from 23 were never released. Eurohunter (talk) 16:56, 17 September 2023 (UTC) How about something like this, then? A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 14:41, 25 September 2023 (UTC)  Done @A Thousand Doors: It looks good. Eurohunter (talk) 15:23, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

• Support A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 09:20, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Drive-by comment

• If you sort the table by a column such as year, and then re-sort the "title" column, all the songs starting with "The" now appear under T. This is wrong, they should appear under the first letter of their second word (as they do when you initially arrive on the article) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 13:19, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

   Done. @ChrisTheDude: Fixed Eurohunter (talk) 15:35, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

• @Casualdejekyll: expressed concerns on the talk page about the scope of the list but the issue was explained. Eurohunter (talk) 18:09, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

   Done. Eurohunter (talk) 18:09, 4 October 2023 (UTC)

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Coretta Scott King Award

Nominator(s): Barkeep49 (talk) 21:05, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

From modest origins as an award co-sponsored by a middle school, the Coretta Scott King Awards are now a major American Children's Literature award honoring African American authors and illustrators. This list continues the work I did with the Caldecott and Newbery Medals towards improving the quality of children's literature award coverage on Wikipedia. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 21:05, 22 June 2023 (UTC)

Comments by RunningTiger123

• Remove "(Book Awards)" in infobox
• Don't bold "The" in lead
• Don't hyphenate "African American" (in other words, don't use "African-American") per MOS:HYPHEN
• I'm not a fan of the blockquote in the lead – while not a direct violation of MOS:PULLQUOTE, it violates the spirit of that rule to me when placed with the preceding paragraph.
• "Ms. Greer" – just say Greer
  • Same for "Dr. King", though additional clarification may be needed since two Kings are involved
• "Early sponsors of the award included the New Jersey Library Association..." – sentence is used twice back-to-back

  That was one of the last changes I made and missed my proofreading. Feel silly about it. Barkeep49 (talk) 21:54, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

• "Starting in 1978, runner-ups to the Author award have been recognized as Honor Books" – but 1971, 1974, 1976, and 1977 have Honor Books in the table?

  They were called runner-ups those years but retroactively are referred to as Honor Books. I've attempted to clarify. Barkeep49 (talk) 21:54, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

• "2 Coretta Scott King Awards" – spell out "two" per MOS:NUM
• In the image captions, Bud, not Buddy should be italicized
• Images need alt text
• If ref. 13 sources the entire table, the access date should follow the most recent awards
• In 2009, The Blacker the Berry should be italicized
  • Same in 2010 for The Negro Speaks of Rivers and in 2021 for Exquisite
• In 2023, Washington's cell should be colored
• In 2023, The Talk should sort by "Talk"

— RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:08, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

Done. Barkeep49 (talk) 21:54, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Support – RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:52, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

FOARP

• General comment: The topic here is essentially the award. The ALA gives the award, so whilst sources published by them are likely reliable, they are not independent. Libraries Unlimited appears to have been an imprint specifically for teachers (i.e., narrow-interest media). GBN appears to be something that was founded via Facebook. Fuse8 is (or was) a blog. The annotated bibliography is someone's thesis. I was rather hoping for more sourcing independent of the ALA, and not simply narrow-interest imprints/blogs/interviews (etc.) to establish the notability of this topic, bearing in mind that notability is not inherited. For example, well-established news sources covering who receives the awards. FOARP (talk) 07:53, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

PS - maybe this Britannica Almanac piece could help? I don't know if this is of the same stature as the encyclopaedia. FOARP (talk) 11:03, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

Unlike the last two lists I did, a lot of the content that was here before remains and I found very little new information to add to it. I share your concerns about the master's thesis but the information that I could check against other sources all agreed (and at least in one ALA publication sourced back to the thesis). So for me it was a question of whether to include such information at all. You also seem to have notability concerns. The annual announcements receive widespread media attention. For instance here is the Christian Science Monitor covering it in 1990 and here is it covering it this year. Examples of coverage from this year include USA Today, St Louis Post Dispatch, and Washington Post. Barkeep49 (talk) 21:54, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Barkeep49 - thanks for responding, is there anything relevant in those references describing the award that could be added in just so we don't have something entirely referenced to ALA/blogs/thesis/interviews/narrow-interest media? The CSM coverage looks good. FOARP (talk) 14:30, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB)

• Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding !scope=col to each header cell, e.g. ! width="5%" |Year becomes !scope=col width="5%" |Year. If the cell spans multiple columns with a colspan, then use !scope=colgroup instead.
• Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding !scope=row to each primary cell, e.g. ! 1970 becomes !scope=row style="color:white;" | 1970. If the cell spans multiple rows with a rowspan, then use !scope=rowgroup instead. Note that right now you have both the year and work columns as the "primary" column/header; you should pick one and make the other a "regular" cell (with | instead of !).
• Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. --PresN 18:10, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

  @PresN: I've implemented column and row scopes for the main table and key. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:23, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Source review from MyCatIsAChonk

No spotcheck needed; focusing on formatting/reliability. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 23:07, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

• All ISBNs should use version 13 and have proper hyphenation- here's a great tool for converting improper ISBNs
• What's the point of the quote in ref 1?
• Abbreviations as citation publishers.works should be consistent (e.g. either use "ALA" or "American Library Association" for all)
• Ref 5 redirects to the award's page. What is this verifying?
• Ref 7: make "interviews" lowercase, per MOS:ALLCAPS- also, needs author
• Ref 12: Make "School Library Journal" the publisher and leave the work as is
• Unrelated, but there's a pretty high Earwig score on one of the sources. This needs to be cut down.
• What makes the following sources reliable:
  • The Open Book Blog
  • Good Black News

Barkeep49, that's all I got, nice work. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 23:07, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Note that the references have now all been cleaned up. I cannot answer the questions about why certain sources are valuable and the point of the quote in ref 1. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:07, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

@Hey man im josh, I will need proof that the two sources are reliable. I've cut the quote from ref 1. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 00:40, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Vat

Been considering getting into FLC, and this list is in very good shape.

• 1993 picture of Scott King -- any reason for this phrasing rather than e.g. "Scott King in 1993"?
• and in 1981 the illustrator award was also renamed -- the lead clarifies this as "runner-ups renamed to honors", but here it's something of a disconnected run-on sentence.
• The award eventually changed its ALA affiliation from the SRRT to the Ethnic and Multicultural Information Exchange Round Table (EMIERT), which had become a closer match for its activities -- what did this mean for the organization in practical terms, for readers not very familiar with the internal workings of the ALA? (When was 'eventually'?)

That's all I have -- this is excellent work, and I hope it doesn't need to wait too much longer for FL. Vaticidalprophet 20:00, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

@Barkeep49: Are you still pursuing this nomination? There's the above review and some questions about sources that are unaddressed, though I see that Hey man im josh helped out with some things. --PresN 14:51, 18 September 2023 (UTC)

Okay, Barkeep49 hasn't come back to this nomination, but I'd really rather not fail it for lack of activity when it's really close to being done... so I'm just going to fix things up and promote. I fixed an accessibility thing with row headers. The Open Book Blog is fine as it's a publisher's blog (Lee & Low Books), not just an independent blog. The Good Black News I can't justify, so I replaced it with the ALA source that was already in use. Changed the caption. The honors thing was cited to the wrong thing (it's in Thompkins) and was misleading- it's not so much that the runner-ups were renamed so much as that they were listed as "Honor Books" starting in those years instead of unlisted at all, the lead had it right. The EMIERT thing was just because the EMIERT used to be a task force of the SRRT, so once it existed as a separate affiliation the award switched to follow it; it's probably still too minor a thing to mention, but I'll leave it in. With that all sorted... promoting. --PresN 02:36, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

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List of World Heritage Sites in Latvia

Nominator(s): Tone 07:50, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Latvia just got its third site inscribed to the WHS list these days, which means that got to the club where I am comfortable to nominate the list for a FL (those countries with two or less sites on the main list are on the waiting list in my book). Standard style, short and compact. The list for Canada is already seeing some support and Costa Rica has just been promoted. Tone 07:50, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

MyCatIsAChonk

• Add Template:Use British English or similar
• Natural features (consisting of physical and biological formations), geological and physiographical formations (including habitats of threatened species of animals and plants), and natural sites which are important from the point of view of science, conservation or natural beauty, are defined as natural heritage - you introduce the subject of natural features at the start and end of this sentence
• The area has been inhabited for millennia and features several cultural landscape types - ritual landscape - the way the dash is used, it should be an endash instead of a dash (for copying –)
• The map box's caption should have no period at the end since it's not a complete sentence

Tone, all done, lovely job MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 01:08, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Fixed, thanks! As for natural, I think it reads fine. This is the formulation that we have distilled after several iterations so I am using it everywhere. Tone 08:26, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Support - lovely work! Also, if you get time, would appreciate any comments here- thanks! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 11:23, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

AK

• "15-13 thousand years ago" en-dash, and I think typical usage would still be "13–15 thousand years ago", not the other way around. Also, source mentions "formed before 13 - 15 thousand years", so "over 13–15 thousand years ago" would be most accurate.
• "social landscape, economic landscape" needed a conjunction.
• "since retained the 18th century integrity" Hard to understand what this means.
• All I have. AryKun (talk) 14:46, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

  ... has retained its 18th century integrity. Makes more sense? I agree it was not very clear. Tone 15:00, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

  Perhaps "has retained the integrity of its 18th century architectural design, unlike many other European palaces which have been subject to extensive later modifications.", although you can just use the first clause if that's too long. AryKun (talk) 15:12, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

  Excellent. I'll use the first clause indeed, as the second part is kind of obvious :) Tone 15:29, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

  Tone, think you missed the first two comments. AryKun (talk) 14:06, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

  Hm, it looks so. Fixed now :) Tone 17:02, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

• Support. AryKun (talk) 17:13, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

Source and image review

Might as well do this since the article's so short.

• Pass source review – all sources as reliable, properly formatted, and spot-checks on most of them found no issues with source-text integrity.
• Pass image review – all images are properly licensed and used, with alt text. I will note that Latvia only has a non-commercial freedom of panorama, but the only image that would be affected by this, House of the Blackheads, is an FP, so I'll assume its licensing is fine. AryKun (talk) 14:59, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

GWL

Really nice to see another WHS FLC! I remember commenting on a lot of these; you now reminded me of the Indo article which I've put on to-do (and which you copyedited ages ago~). I've put invisible comments to divide my comments based on sections. GeraldWL 09:28, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

• No problem found on the prose outside of table!
• Shouldn't Riga be linked at the table?
• Second row's second sentence is quite wordy, suggest "who first carried out an accurate measurement" --> "who first accurately measured"
• Suggest making Kuldiga's alt text more descriptive of the building depicted
• Moving on to tentative: after the first "landscape" I think the rest "landscape"s can be removed since it's already clear and quite repetitive
• "The Baroque-style"

Fixed all, thanks! --Tone 06:57, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Awesome, it looks great to me, so am giving this a nice support! By the way if you're not busy, I'd love for you to take a look at the Indonesia article, which I've extensively copyedited ^_^ GeraldWL 03:45, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

Will do! Haven't checked that one for a while. Tone 07:07, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

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List of Hot Soul Singles number ones of 1977

Nominator(s): ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:34, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Hi everyone, here's #35 in this series of articles for your consideration. In this year, the Floaters floated to million-selling success, but they sank without a trace pretty soon afterwards...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:34, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

Pseud 14

• for the table header add {{abbr|Ref.|Reference}}
• Thelma Houston's "Don't Leave Me This Way" -- except for this, the series mentions the name of single followed by artist, perhaps it should be consistent?
• could only climb as high as number 63 -- perhaps only peaked at number 63
• That's all I got. Another solid work. Pseud 14 (talk) 17:26, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
  • @Pseud 14: - thanks for your review, I have actioned your comments -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:19, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
• Support. Pseud 14 (talk) 12:32, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

MyCatIsAChonk and source review

I see no problems with the prose, so why not a source review too:

• Ref 6: Use apostrophes for quotes in quotes, per MOS:QINQ

ChrisTheDude, that's it, great work MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 11:30, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

@MyCatIsAChonk: - done! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:29, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Support MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 11:17, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Dank

• Standard disclaimer: I don't know what I'm doing, and I mostly AGF on sourcing.
• Checking the FLC criteria:
• 1. I made a minor prose tweak; feel free to revert. I checked sorting on all sortable nonnumeric columns and sampled the links in the table.
• 2. The lead meets WP:LEAD and defines the inclusion criteria.
• 3a. The list has comprehensive items and annotations.
• 3b. The list is well-sourced to reliable sources, and the UPSD tool isn't indicating any actual problems (but this isn't a source review). All relevant retrieval dates are present.
• 3c. The list meets requirements as a stand-alone list, it isn't a content fork, it doesn't largely duplicate another article (that I can find), and it wouldn't fit easily inside another article.
• 4. It is navigable.
• 5. It meets style requirements. At a glance, the images seem fine.
• 6. It is stable.
• Support. Well done. - Dank (push to talk) 15:53, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

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List of hominoids

Nominator(s): PresN 01:00, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Next up in our journey of animal lists, we another list of primates (#32 in our series of animal FLCs). This list is the third of the six-ish subgroupings of the order Primates, following the lorisoids and cercopithecoids, and is another superfamily. This one you may recognize: it's us! Hominoidea (hominoids) contains Hominidae (hominids) contains Homo (humans), so there we are in our fur-less glory, which really does set us apart visually, and never mind the bipedalism. Besides humans, we have 27 species of gibbons, orangutans, chimpanzees, and gorillas, aka "apes". This one wasn't as hard to source, and is mostly filled out with pictures- people seem to care a bit more about our close relatives then they do about the endless minor varieties of southeast Asian monkeys. As always, the list follows the pattern of the previous lists and reflects previous FLC comments. Thanks for reviewing! --PresN 01:00, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Vat

The human list, I see! Nice to know the IUCN hasn't bothered to assess H. s. sapiens. (I have some confabulated memory of it once being "Least concern"?). I'll make a full read later, but a query: is this intentionally a list exclusive to extant families? Sorry if this is an obvious question; I haven't seen so many of the prior lists. It may be worth making it a little more explicit in the lead, though I'm unsure if FLC prohibits breaking the fourth wall that way, so to speak? I can read the "sorry, we don't know well enough" undertone in the lead after I stopped jumping around and read through it, but I'm not sure if every reader would read this implication well enough, and in the absence of an explication the absence of Neandertals et al stands out. Vaticidalprophet 13:22, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Yes, all the prior lists restricted themselves to extant species and species that went extinct post-1500 CE. The reasoning being that paleontological taxonomy is extremely unstable and decentralized. I have more extensive lists of fossil cats that some paleo databases, for example, and paleontologists frequently disagree over what species and genera are valid or not, and the apparent consensus can change without warning. Oh, and new species, genera, and even higher-level taxa are named every year. Some earlier lists did have fossil taxa sections, which have since been removed as unmaintainable. SilverTiger12 (talk) 13:51, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, the "The twenty-eight extant species of Hominoidea" line that starts the second paragraph is supposed to indicate that this does not include prehistoric species, and then Classification starts with "The superfamily Hominoidea consists of two extant families: Hominidae and Hylobatidae." And yeah, the IUCN doesn't evaluate humans (or domesticated "pet" animals like cats or dogs, actually). --PresN 15:51, 11 September 2023 (UTC)\

MyCatIsAChonk

• Add Template:Use British English or otherwise appropriate

• Added, though I note that this is not a required template and I don't know why you want it added? All it does is add a category to the article.

• Not sure how other FLs look, but I think "Conventions" would make more sense just above the tables

• It's in that order (for this and the other lists) because it explains why the IUCN codes (which are used in the template on the right, which due to text length needs to be in the first text section, not the second) and what the daggers mean (which can be included in the Classification section), so it has to go before that section

• A lot of the sfns lack years, but it is (to my knowledge) standard to include them

• The only requirement is to be consistent. I'm not using Sfn, but even if I was it only marks the name as required, not the year. Some standard referencing styles may require a year always, but as per WP:CITESTYLE Wikipedia does not conform to any one style guide.

PresN, I got nothing else, great job as usual MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 21:37, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

@MyCatIsAChonk: replied inline. --PresN 20:59, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Support MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 21:28, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

AK

• "hominoids, or apes" maybe drop the comma?

• Dropped

• "They range in size...including limbs" I can't quite put my finger on why but this sentence reads a bit weird.

• Yeah, maybe because "limbs" is a weird word? I feel like I should put something, though- for animal lengths in general, the "size" is the head-body length, which doesn't include legs... but like humans, gorillas sometimes walk upright, and for humans we count the leg lengths in our overall size. If I don't include that bit, then I'm saying that the biggest hominid is shorter than a lot of humans. Open to alternate wording suggestions!

• Does citing human habitat and diet fall under SKYISBLUE? I feel like it probably does.

• Yeah, that was my thought

• Link truffles?

• Done

• That's all I have for prose. AryKun (talk) 15:21, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Image review

• All images are correctly licensed and used.
• Human range map is technically depicting population density, not distribution, as noted in the Human article.

• True, though that's even better - added a note to the caption

• The photo for humans is low quality, but I don't want to get involved in that flamewar, so no need to change it.

• Yeah, I'm staying out of that one too

• The Hainan black crested gibbon photo is basically just a silhouette; we don't have great options, but maybe a screengrab from this would be better?

• Because of the terrible video quality and shaky camera, any screengrab would be a blurry mess that only shows half of the gibbon... I'm not happy with the silhouette, but I think that would be worse.

• Alts are fine, no other comments. AryKun (talk) 15:21, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

• @AryKun: Replied inline for both sections. --PresN 21:15, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

• Okay, pass image review and support on prose. AryKun (talk) 21:18, 14 September 2023 (UTC)

Comments by SilverTiger

Well, I held off to give others a chance to comment, but since it looks like one is still needed, I'll give it a look-see. I don't expect to have many comments.

• aside from humans, the only exception is the eastern hoolock gibbon, which is classified as vulnerable.
• There's a bit of an image issue what with the two range maps, the opening image, the Red List box, and the cladogram. On my screen, the cladogram is pushed down far enough that it sits on the left below the species list, which doesn't look great. And the Red List box is pushed down below the Conventions section where it normally sits. Would it be possible to get the two range maps to sit horizontally beside each other instead of vertically? Or you could request a combined range map be made for all non-human hominoids, and note that humans are found on every continent, everywhere, in the caption.
• All sources look trustworthy and there's no copyvio, so pass on that.

And that's it. Nice work as always. Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 14:40, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

• @SilverTiger12: Fixed the sentence. The cladogram is below the genus list on this one; it has to be if there's anything going on on the right or if the cladogram is too wide, or else it gets really weird on small screens. Re-arranged the side images, though, so that the red list box is in conventions and the maps are below it instead, which should also fill some white space. --PresN 00:40, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

  That works too, so Support. SilverTiger12 (talk) 01:04, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

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List of books bound in human skin

Nominator(s): Vaticidalprophet 02:28, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Anthropodermic bibliopegy lurks the shadows of the collective consciousness, manifesting in the form of dark occult grimoires, Nazi atrocities, French Revolution contumacies, and lurking serial killers. The truth is stranger than any myth; most books bound in human skin come from respected 19th-century doctors, men acting with the approval of their peers and untethered by ethical qualms. The history of anthropodermic bibliopegy is the history of medical ethics, one of those histories where every law is written in blood.

The full list of books seriously thought to be bound in human skin is short enough for this to be as comprehensive as a semi-dynamic list will ever allow. Some authors chronology longer lists, but these generally predate the capacity for serious testing and have so little written on them as to make including them irrelevant; on the other hand, the number of books that have undergone gold-standard testing is so short even the ones with very little known are worth mentioning, and I've mentioned all I can. It's a fascinating story of medical overreach, ethical debate, and the historical dedication that lurks in the soul of every archivist. I recently split this list from the main anthropodermic bibliopegy article, which is currently in poor shape and had a rather outdated and speculative version of it. This is my first FLC (but not my first featured content), but from consultation with editors more experienced in the process than I, I believe it's ready for prime time. Vaticidalprophet 02:28, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Support from PMC

Putting myself down to comment. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 02:32, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

• In the lead, "the existence of 18 books bound in human skin, out of 31 claimed cases" - is this 31 claims ever, or 31 claims that they tested?
  • Tweaked to 'tested', though the number of total claims also seems really low. Vaticidalprophet 11:01, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
• "the first book confirmed through its use" might be nice to put what year this was done, or maybe what year peptide testing was invented at least
  • An earlier version had it, but it got trimmed out at some point (maybe that was during the Dark Archives FAC, because this is adapted from that background section). I remember trying to find a way to put it back in and finding they all read weirdly. I've reworded here (produces "in 2014", but eh, it's not like the article's at risk of proseline). This and other additions produced a very overstuffed second paragraph, though, so I've split it at what's hopefully a vaguely natural point. Vaticidalprophet 11:01, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
• The first mention of executed criminals comes in the 3rd paragraph of the lead, I might mention it a bit earlier first to set it up
  • Now it's even lower! Yay. Vaticidalprophet 11:01, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
    • I've moved it up to the...uh...third paragraph. I've also tweaked the confirmed sentence again, because it sucks and I hate it I think there's still some workshopping to do here. Vaticidalprophet 11:06, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
• What is your sort order based on? I can't see any logic to it. It's not alphabetical by book and although I see that you've grouped by collection, the collections don't seem to be alphabetical to me either. If it's by testing/confirmation date, you might want to make that explicit by adding a column.
  • I swear there is an order here, but it may not be apparent to any other person in the entire world. Having said that, there's much more of one for the confirmed books, because I had multiple "oh shit, forgot one [adds to end of list]" for the latter tables. I'll see what I can do about making the there's-an-order-I-swear clearer for the others. Vaticidalprophet 11:01, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
    • At the very least, if the default sort order is arcane, I would recommend putting a note explaining it. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 01:37, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
      • It's based on vibes. There are definitely vibes here, I swear. (More formally, 'thematically similar' things are meant to be close to one another, but I'll see what I can do about making the...theme...apparent to anyone else, especially in the later sections where it's weaker.) Vaticidalprophet 09:56, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
        • Shuffled a bit...is it at all clearer now? There are definitely 'thematic' groupings/similar books and claims near one another. The arrangement of those clusters is a little more arbitrary -- I've tried to put stranger or more attention-getting claims higher up. Vaticidalprophet 10:05, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
• Why does "Essai sur les lieux..." have no comments at all? The empty cell stands out
  • God, it does, doesn't it? Given how many times this has been queried now, I'm considering adding something along the lines of "mentioned in Rosenbloom's list with no further details", cited to that list. Do you think that's...not going to get OR-accusations? I mean, there are no further details. {{cite entire rest of book}}? Vaticidalprophet 11:01, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
    • I don't see why it wouldn't work. I got away with something similar at Neptune, where I note that one author didn't even bother to remark on the clothing. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 01:35, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
      • Done. Vaticidalprophet 09:56, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
• Same question about sorting applies to all the tables
• I might split up "supposed" into two tables - supposed individual copies, and widely-printed books that have been generally believed to have some anthropodermic copies somewhere. So "De integritatis" would be in the first, but De Sade's books would be in the second. Or at least sort them so they're together.
• Should the goat skin book not be under "inauthentic" or is that just for ones confirmed inauthentic by PMF?
  • I'm trying to go for "hard confirmed either way" in each table, yeah -- multiple books in the suspected table are pretty much confirmed either way, but you can't rule it out. Vaticidalprophet 11:01, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
    • I might put a note to that effect somewhere. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 01:37, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

That's all I have. No complaints/comments about the actual prose in the tables, which are fairly tight summaries of the circumstances. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 19:10, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks so much! First replies, including some changes and some queries. Vaticidalprophet 11:01, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Okay, I still don't love the vibes-based sort order, but given that it's easily sortable for the reader, I don't feel it's worth dying over. The rest of my comments have been reasonably addressed, so I'm a support. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:17, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

MyCatIsAChonk

I audibly gasped when I saw this hit the FLC list. Fantastic work- truly deserving of Wikipedia:Unusual articles! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 11:07, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

• Add Template:Use British English or otherwise appropriate
• Should "The Gold Bug" be sorted at the top? I'd think it sorts with the rest of the "G"s
• it "disappeared" in the 1990s. - why quotes? Is it not really gone?
• Many of the citations are all to different pages to the Dark Archives, but it just duplicates the citation. IMO, putting Dark Archives in a "works cited" section and using sfns is much cleaner, or you can have one citation to Dark Archives and use Template:rp for the pages
• IMO, the "Notes" column doesn't need to be sortable
• Ref columns don't need to be sortable either

Vaticidalprophet, all done, fantastic job! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 11:07, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the review! I've added the BrEng template (usually I'd try to standardize to Oxford spelling, but this article has so few uses of ize/ise words it's easier to go for the more recognizable one). On the other points:

• I've tried to sort a little more by collection and theme (i.e. what readers actually see in the Notes section -- putting all the Hough books alongside each other, etc) than alphabetical, because I think that's a little more reader-friendly and because people who want specifically alphabetical orders can arrange it that way. I haven't made all that many lists, though, and I'm willing to discuss that.
  • I think the default sorting is fine, but I was unclear on what I meant, sorry. When you click the "Book" header under Confirmed, it sorts alphabetically from A to Z. Poe's story is appearing at the top because it starts with a quotation mark, but I believe it should sort with the "G"s. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 21:21, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
• "Disappeared" is what the source says and doesn't elaborate, so I quoted. I'm guessing along the lines that it hasn't been accounted for in the library since the 90s.
  • Ok; I think you should add "according to the library, the book 'disappeared'" somewhere near it; otherwise, it may insinuate theft or some other act that's unrelated to it (at least, that's what I think of when I see "disappeared" in quotes like that) MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 21:21, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
• I'm not a huge fan of shortened footnotes (it looks 'cleaner' to an editor, but readers from non-academic backgrounds don't necessarily recognize them -- I've seen edit wars moving sfns to 'further reading' because they "aren't references"). For rp, in this case the chapter titles are relevant in and of themselves because of one such chapter being a list of known anthropodermic books in libraries.
  • Fair enough then, I just worry it unnecessarily clutters up the References section. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 21:21, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
• I haven't made a ton of tables, so I'm not sure how I'd go about making some sections sortable and some not. Any advice?
  • See Help:Sortable tables#Making selected columns unsortable MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 21:21, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Vaticidalprophet 11:18, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

Vaticidalprophet Responses above MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 21:21, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

I've fixed the table sorting and not-sorting, and reworded the Belgian library statement a bit to avoid a direct quote while getting across the intent of the source. Vaticidalprophet 03:16, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Support - excellent job! By the way, if you get time, would appreciate comment at this FLC- thanks! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 00:26, 8 September 2023 (UTC)MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 00:11, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Comments by SilverTiger

Placeholder, ping me when Chonk is done with their review. I, too, was excited to see this at FLC, and can't wait to see what you do with the main article. --SilverTiger12 (talk) 13:33, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

SilverTiger12, Chonk has supported if you still want to comment :) Vaticidalprophet 02:43, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

Oh, I do, I just didn't want you to have to deal with two (potentially conflicting) reviews at once. --SilverTiger12 (talk) 04:21, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

• The ability to unequivocally identify book bindings as being of human skin dates only to the mid-2010s. "only dates back to"
• The origin of peptide mass fingerprinting permitted conclusive testing.. "The development of.."
  • Tweaked this and 'relates/connects'. Vaticidalprophet 04:50, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
• Most legitimate anthropodermic books have passed through the hands of physicians, and many of them are dedicated to the practice of medicine. I get what you are trying to say here, but I feel like you could be clearer about it. Most of these books were bound by physicians- I think it's being implied that they were re-bound, unless these were new books being bound- right? And most of them seem to be about the practice of medicine and medical topics.
• ...bibliopegy expert Megan Rosenbloom relatesconnects this to changing standards...
• Another book from Hough's collection believed to trace to Lynch. "traced to" sounds like a massive understatement.
  • Not wrong :) I'll play around with other phrasings. Vaticidalprophet 04:50, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
  • Reworded these two. Vaticidalprophet 14:48, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
• Another book from Hough's collection, speculated to be bound quite late in his life... "bound later in his life". And in that same entry, last sentence, remove the comma between authentic and due.
  • Well, not necessarily. The timeline on these bindings isn't great. I'll see if I can revise the others a little, actually -- I think they were all bound around a similar time, but this one is chronologically distinct from the others (the skin itself is much later, and it doesn't seem to have been done professionally). Vaticidalprophet 04:50, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
  • I've tried to clarify the timelines here a bit -- it's tricky. Vaticidalprophet 14:50, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
    • That clarification makes it sound so much creepier. --SilverTiger12 (talk) 18:45, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
      • It is! That guy's article is going to be weird. Vaticidalprophet 07:37, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
• Is that supposed to be a semicolon and not a comma after Cincinnati Public Library?
  • Yes. There are confirmed copies of that book in the University of Cincinnati Library and in the Cincinnati Public Library, which are different places. Vaticidalprophet 04:50, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
    • Thank you, I just wanted to be certain. --SilverTiger12 (talk) 16:08, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
• Why does the Poems of Various Subjects have the While several purportedly anthropodermic books have made claims about the race or ethnicity of the people used to bind them, all such copies have turned out to be inauthentic. - it feels like it's going somewhere with that, like they're the only books where the race/ethnicity claims are authentic - but then it doesn't. Also, how many copies?
  • Two, presumably, or at least if one of the libraries has multiple copies Rosenbloom didn't see fit to mention (which would be odd). I'm not sure where else to go with that summary; we don't know any details about the people whose skin was used to bind those copies, including their race. We do know that other, different books that explicitly mention race are fake. Vaticidalprophet 04:50, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
    • Honestly, I would suggest removing that whole sentence since the same information is also given more generally in the lede, since such claims don't seem to have been made about Poems specifically. --SilverTiger12 (talk) 16:08, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
      • I've tried to revise this and get across the idea more clearly (it's hard to get that nuance in a table). There's a lot of speculation on why books by the first black woman publishing in the US, specifically, were anthropodermic, and it'd be amiss not to mention it at all, but there's no evidence to base anything off so it's all very up in the air. Vaticidalprophet 07:37, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
• The last two entries of the confirmed list are very short on information. Is there really nothing more that can be added?
  • The fully blank one I tried very hard for and turned up nothing. The last one there might be some more -- I'll see if and what can be revised -- but it would still be on the shorter end. Vaticidalprophet 04:50, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
    • If the information isn't out there, then it's not out there- a disappointing but uncontrollable circumstance. --SilverTiger12 (talk) 16:08, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
• Overall, in the suspected list, I'd like you to be a little more consistent about why a given book hasn't or can't be tested- some are apparently lost, some the library in question refuses to allow testing, but some you just don't explain why.
  • If I don't explain why, I don't know why, unfortunately. In some cases the last source discussing the book is pre-2014 and I can't find further details on it at all. Rosenbloom does give a little detail on different reasons why a book might be untestable, so I'll add a little on that to the lead, which should hopefully cover most cases. Vaticidalprophet 04:50, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
  • I've added a little to the lead about reasons an organization may decline testing. Vaticidalprophet 14:47, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
• In that same vein, you could stand to more consistently mention when the books were tested.
• Source-wise, everything looks fine except the use of Facebook as a source, which I consider... questionable at best.
  • FB in this case is the official University of Memphis Library page, which I'm using as ABOUTSELF -- Gordon, the other cite, cuts off before the book was officially tested, and the primary source is the one that makes it clear it was found to be inauthentic. Vaticidalprophet 04:50, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
    • Fair enough, that is acceptable in lieu of anything better. --SilverTiger12 (talk) 16:08, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

That's pretty much it from me. Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 04:21, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Thanks so much for your review! I've replied to a few of these and will work on general tweaks/expanding the lead a little. Vaticidalprophet 04:50, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

SilverTiger12, I think most of these should be handled now. I've tweaked "passed through the hands of physicians", though I'm not sure if saying something that implies they were all bound by doctors is quite supported by the source, so it's still a little evasive. The "dates back to" one I think is mostly a subjective wording difference. How do you feel about the article right now? Vaticidalprophet 13:23, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Support. This list is well-written, informative, and fascinating. It manages to lay out details about the books and the practice without veering into the lurid and sensational, which I consider quite a feat. Though some might say a clinical, matter-of-fact tone makes it all the more chilling... --SilverTiger12 (talk) 19:10, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Additional source review

Several comments have been raised about the sourcing and style of citations before, but it looks like a separate source review is still needed.

• Earwig reveals no copyvio.
• The source most often cited is Dark Archives, which is more or less THE book on this subject, so that's 90% checked right there. As I don't have access to that book, though, spot checks were not possible and I choose to assume good faith here.
• The most obviously questionable source is Facebook used for a fairly trivial about-self factoid (asked and answered above), so while it isn't ideal I will give this a pass.
• Citation 21 is to Atlas Obscura, a website with user-generated content. Is the author of the cited article a known subject-matter expert? Otherwise a different source should be found.
• The rest of the sources look fine, mostly published magazines, newsletters, and scientific papers.

@Vaticidalprophet: so you see this. Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 14:54, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for the source review, SilverTiger12! I think the AO use here is fine -- they have UGC, but they're not a wholly UGC site, and Allison Meier was a senior editor there. She also has a substantial portfolio, including multiple books and edited compilations on subjects related to this one (bibliography, history of cemeteries, etc). Vaticidalprophet 23:58, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

I'll accept senior editor and published author. Thanks for the explanation. Pass source review. Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 00:58, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Comments by Hey man im josh

Image review:

• Images are relevant
• Images are appropriately licensed
• Images have alt text

Support: Looks good and it was a great read. Thanks for the work that you put into this. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:59, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

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List of accolades received by Avengers: Infinity War

Nominator(s): Chompy Ace 06:50, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

This is the fourth MCU film to nominate to a featured list, with similar formats to other WP:FLs. Chompy Ace 06:50, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

EN-Jungwon

• Image review passed: alt text looks good and the file is appropriately licensed.
• I noticed that the unlike other lists you nominated, the awards column is aligned in the center in this list. Shouldn't this be kept similar between all these lists?

That's all from me. -- EN-Jungwon 17:15, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

EN-Jungwon, done. Chompy Ace 19:47, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

Support -- EN-Jungwon 16:19, 6 September 2023 (UTC)

• Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 22:02, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
• Support - I see no issues, great job MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 00:36, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
• Support Idiosincrático (talk) 04:35, 24 September 2023 (UTC)

• Source review – Reliability and formatting of the references look okay throughout. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:22, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

• Image review – The lead photo has an appropriate free license, caption and alt text. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:39, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

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Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (season 3)

Nominator(s): MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 11:07, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

And now, season 3! This season contains probably the most famous of LWT episodes, Donald Trump, which broke the HBO viewership record for any piece of content. Also, why not forgive $15 million in medical debt just to beat Oprah? MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 11:07, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Pseud 14

• a second Peabody Award -- for the lead, since the first win seems to be for the previous season, and you are listing all awards won this season, perhaps only mention it as a Peabody Award.
• that the show is "makes people dumb" -- that the show "makes people dumb"
• 62 million views on Facebook -- worth linking Facebook
• Great job as usual. Pseud 14 (talk) 15:41, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

  @Pseud 14, all fixed- thank you so much! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 21:12, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

• Support. Pseud 14 (talk) 21:29, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Comments by Epicgenius

Reserving a spot for later. Hopefully this is of similar quality to the season 2 list, which was very good.

Briefly:

• Lead section, paragraph 2: "Episodes in the season were credited with influencing US law and culture, a phenomenon dubbed the "John Oliver effect": the main segment of episode three, titled "Donald Trump", set an HBO viewership record and received widespread media attention; in episode fourteen, which covered debt buyers, Oliver forgave almost $15 million in medical debt for 9,000 Americans." - Perhaps this should be two sentences.

– Epicgenius (talk) 21:09, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Fixed- thanks! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 00:28, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

Production:

• Paragraph 2: Not really an issue, but I remember seeing these blurbs a lot on NYC buses. Are there any other examples of blurbs, though?
• Paragraph 3: It might be worth noting that Oliver did end up going into depth into Trump, though I'm not 100% sure. After all, Last Week Tonight segments about Donald Trump mentions that there are multiple episodes in this season specifically about his campaign.

Reception:

• Critical reception: "others found that these quips are what made the show compelling" - I'd change "are" to "were" to match the tense of the rest of the sentence.
• Ratings: "Donald Trump" set an HBO viewership record, according to a spokesperson from the network" - Would it be sufficient to say ""Donald Trump" set an HBO viewership record", or is the spokesperson mentioned since it's disputed? (The main article on this episode says By the end of March, the segment had been viewed 23.3 million times on YouTube and 62 million times on Facebook, for a total of 85 million times on the two social media platforms, making its viewership "a record for any piece of HBO content".)
• Awards: "for the segment "F*ck 2016"" - What episode was this?
• Influence: ""Donald Drumpf" (a joke about the surname of Trump's ancestors)" - The parenthetical seems unnecessary since it's already described in "Critical reception".
• Influence: Would it be worth splitting the medical debt segment into another paragraph?

That's it from me. – Epicgenius (talk) 17:01, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Para 2: I didn't want to add more than one quote just because they're all essentially the same message: "LWT bad". Besides, one could look at the poster in the infobox to see other quotes

Ratings: the "according to" is because it's a quote from a spokesperson in the episode's own article. To my knowledge, HBO (like many other streaming services) doesn't release data reports, so this is all according to that one spokesperson.

Influence point 2: The other season articles just have it in one paragraph, and splitting it would result in a three line para. IMO, doesn't look very clean

@Epicgenius: replies above, everything else was fixed, thank you! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 21:38, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

These are fair points. Regarding the quotes, I was just wondering if more existed; that wasn't meant as a request to add more of them.

Anyway, I support this nomination. – Epicgenius (talk) 21:43, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

• Made a couple of tiny changes which it was easier to just make than list here - more than happy to Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 06:55, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

NØ

I'm seeing three supports so I'll get the other stuff done

• Image review - pass: The poster image is appropriately licensed with a source link provided.
• Source review - pass:
  • I haven't heard of The Mary Sue but it does not appear to be used for any controversial claims here.
  • Other sources appear reliable for the purposes they are used. Spotcheck upon request.--NØ 09:41, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

Many thanks! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 11:05, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

AK

• Did some copy-editing that was too minor to mention here.
• "Last Week Tonight aired on Sundays at 11 pm, totaling 30 episodes in season three" These two clauses aren't logically connected, and "Totaling 30 episodes" sounds weird. I'd suggest "and had a total of 30 episodes".
• "average high" sounds weird.
• All I got. AryKun (talk) 15:09, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

  @AryKun, thank you very much- all fixed! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 22:47, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

  Okay, support on prose. AryKun (talk) 13:27, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

GWL

Resolved comments from GeraldWL 07:45, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

* Should probably link Tim Carvell, John Oliver in Production Why does the infobox alt text only mention the WSJ quote? IMO it should mention all of them ALT text should be short as said at WP:ALT; but, for the sake of consistency, I cut the WSJ quote from the alt text so that it's summarized by "Various negative quotes..." MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 11:21, 25 September 2023 (UTC) Link Republican For Critical reception I think you can put "Reception and aftermath" of the Drumpf article at a See also or More info hatnote. A "See also" hatnote is already present under 'Influence', and most of the (albeit small) critical reception section doesn't discuss the Drumpf episode MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 11:04, 25 September 2023 (UTC) For the social media views, I think it's safe to say it might be outdated, so I suggest specifying the time the spokesperson looked at it, also maybe including the latest one for the YT. "Emmy" --> "Emmy Awards" Suggest removing ref 30's ISSN to be consistent with the other refs ref 32 should use publisher not website parameter

That should be it! Relatively short article so there's not much to talk about; the list looks fine to me. GeraldWL 05:07, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Gerald Waldo Luis, all fixed, with some replies above. Thank you very much! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 11:21, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

Supporting~ :) GeraldWL 07:45, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Comments

Resolved comments from A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 09:31, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

Looks good overall. 11 pm -> 11{{nbsp}}pm. Similarly, 5.6 million -> 5.6{{nbsp}}million. Several wikilinks appear in the lead and are then repeated in the main body of the text (e.g. HBO, John Oliver, Tim Carvell, YouTube, Donald Trump). Per MOS:LINKONCE, they only need to be linked the first time. Note that the MOS only states "Generally." Furthermore, repeating links in main bodies is fairly common practice and also recommended, assuming some might decide to skip the lead entirely. GeraldWL 17:51, 25 September 2023 (UTC) I'm happy to go with the community's consensus if it's against me, but I just don't see what makes this specific article an exception to the general rule. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 21:42, 25 September 2023 (UTC) See other television FLs like 30 Rock (season 1) and The Office (American season 8); it's common practice in season articles (as far as I know) to link thing the first time in the lead and the first time outside the lead. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 22:01, 25 September 2023 (UTC) Likewise, per MOS:SURNAME, "Tim Carvell, John Oliver, and Liz Stanton" -> "Carvell, Oliver, and Stanton" in the Production section. Again, see various other season FLs/FAs (Family Guy (season 1), How I Met Your Mother (season 1), Highlander: The Series (season 1); these names are reiterated in full one time outside the lead, then the surname is used. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 22:01, 25 September 2023 (UTC) "in depth" or "in-depth"? The article uses both. I think the latter is correct. "others found that these quips were what made the show compelling". What's the source for this? I checked the DeJarnette citation, but I don't see anywhere that he said that critics found Oliver's quips compelling. Quote from the article: "In fact, when covering issues as esoteric as net neutrality, an occasional joke about dingos might be exactly what it takes to get the audience to the finish line. Of course, it’s probably not possible (or advisable) for journalists to match Oliver’s comedic chops." DeJarnette explains that the comedic quips make the show compelling. MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 22:01, 25 September 2023 (UTC) "winning winning" -> "winning" A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 16:11, 25 September 2023 (UTC) A Thousand Doors, replies above- thank you for the review! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 22:01, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

• Support A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 09:31, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

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