2023 talk begins at #dear friends, 2023 images (my calender pics and musical events) begin here, and the 2023 diary (my own pictures of places, songs, food, flowers ...) are here, - just watch those lists if you are interested.
My motto for 2024 is taken from my first barnstar and a recent barnstar, and calls for resilience where misunderstandings are in the way of good communication and community.
While songs were a focus in 2022, I'll look at locations that played a role in my life, from the villages where I live to places in five continents. Other topics are ongoing, recent deaths, music heard and sung, composers, gardens. Watch my user page for articles, done in collaboration. Compare 2022 for the amazing number of users who began and expanded articles. Thanks also to reviewers, and I do plan to review more and write less, and in writing, focus more on quality than the little daily article, which was a pleasant sport for five years, but not so much in the name of WP:QAI - article improvement. (Did I write that last year? Yes. Did I follow? No. I will try harder, promised.) The first article to become FA is Ich habe genug, BWV 82.
My talk goes like this: on top there's the top story related to the day, followed by the yearly archives. Right here you see the image of the month with songs of the month, typically related to meetings with friends who gave them to me. Below are three boxes, often one for people remembered, and two for musical experiences, performing or listening. In these boxes, topics related to the top story and topics featured on the Main page appear bold. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:11, 1 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
It was a year declared as of friendship, and was rich in friendly collaboration, check out the archives: too many to greet you all, which is wonderful.
Let's enter 2023 in confidence, and in resilience, which was my first barnstar ever, and one of those cherished recently.
If you click on happy new year, you get to an overview of the year to come, with a calendar and musical events sung and heard, to be expanded until in a year. I also started to list what music I got to know in which church, in case of interest.
I feel roarrrrring, sharing the card with RexxS where I admired it first! - Same to you, read just above. I hope for a new era for Debussy, DYK? The new era for DYK is that I'll take a break, Ich habe genug (I have enough). Give others a chance. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:01, 31 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
Happy New Year, Gerda Arendt! Thank you for your continued work across many different fields of Wikipedia this year. You certainly have an eye for quality; not to mention you're far too humble! I hope that Wikipedia will once again continue to see more of your fantastic work this forthcoming year, and hopefully we can get to interact more :) Yours truly, 𓃦LunaEatsTuna (💬) 00:30, 1 January 2023 (UTC) (It is now New Year's Day in UTC)Reply
Wishing you and yours a Happy New Year, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free and may Janus light your way. Ealdgyth (talk) 13:48, 1 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
A musical and spiritual celebration of motherhood, especially of Mary's, - today is also the day of naming Jesus. I was blessed to hear the piece in a rehearsal of the Dessoff Choirs in November. 2022 was rich in music, I heard Tenebrae in two concerts! I hope that 2023 will continue this gift of harmony to the world, and will keep singing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:11, 1 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Dear Gerda, after your perusal of the expanded "History" section, Nikkimaria commented thus:
"Still needs some pretty significant work. One-paragraph sections should be avoided, as should having a long string of cites at the end of a long paragraph - it makes it difficult to tell what is meant to support what. Some of the sources proposed are of unclear reliability, eg die-klarinetten. It also needs work on prose and formatting, but the structural and sourcing concerns need addressing before that can be considered. Nikkimaria (talk) 20:47, 17 December 2022 (UTC)"
I have subsequently revised my draft ( User:Gisbert_K/sandbox3 ) again to take account of N's comments. If you find the time, I would be grateful for another review. - Gisbert ツ (talk) Illustrate Wikipedia !06:55, 2 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
I suggest we discuss that on the talk of your draft. I suggest once more that you tackle one section first, not the whole thing, and find approval by me, and more important by her, for that one section, and only afterwards take what you learned from there to other sections, one at a time. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:09, 2 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
I think Nikkimaria is my opponent. She obviously has no interest in constructive cooperation and tries everything to prevent or minimise contributions from me to the article.
Yesterday I posted the first part of the history. Special-T made some sensible improvements around 16:30. Things were going well until Nikimaria came along after 23:00.
Special-T has made some corrections and tightened up the text a little. I am very satisfied with the result. I only hope that Nikkimaria doesn't take away a large part again.
a "fresh opinion" is natural. I am someone looking for that. As I am arguing with parties who were involved in the deletion itself. Sorry if you are not interested, for some reason I assumed you are. My mistake. Have a nice day FuzzyMagma (talk) 12:38, 3 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
Just curious: why would you think that I was interested and knew about categories at all, and particularly those of award recipients? A fresh opinion should not be an educated guess, imho. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:45, 3 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
It was a very hyperbolic assumption that I am now find myself even embarrassed to re-think. Let’s say I got too defensive that I started looking for allies. Now my views is to trust the process and assume good faith. At the end of the day, putting part of me into these discussions will surely affect my longevity.
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On 6 January 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Domen Križaj, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that after Domen Križaj from Slovenia was a prize winner in the singing competition Neue Stimmen, he moved to the Oper Frankfurt where he appeared as Massenet's Albert and Mozart's Papageno? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Domen Križaj. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Domen Križaj), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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On 7 January 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Concentricities, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Concentricities, a 2019 clarinet–cello–piano trio by Graham Waterhouse, musically depicts a theme of circular, spiraling, or oscillating concentric phenomena in nature and human structures? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Concentricities. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Concentricities).
Yes, they're coming up with a lot of structurally untypical words lately. At least that's what I'm blaming for some of my struggles to guess! Storye book (talk) 09:11, 9 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you! ... which I just updated, - I feel soooo far away from this place (only to see after sunset that - while I wanted to write about a composition by Duruflé who was born on this day - another person died, article by LouisAlain, - would you help with Siegfried Kurz, please?) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:05, 11 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
DYK for Galina Pisarenko
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On 12 January 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Galina Pisarenko, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that soprano Galina Pisarenko studied economics, English, and Norwegian at the same time she was studying to become a professional opera singer? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Galina Pisarenko. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Galina Pisarenko)).
These two people died recently. They performed at the same house for some. I tried to use the DYK feature to say a bit more about them. I worked for the conductor, but not the soprano - compare the reviews. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:03, 12 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Thanks for getting to those Paolo Fabbri backlinks. I always make a point of cleaning up after any move I make that leaves links pointing to a DAB, but in this case my mother called just as I was getting started. I returned to the computer to see you'd already gotten most, which was a pleasant surprise. :) FYI, {{disambiguation needed}} is a useful template for situations like those encountered at Michel Maffesoli and Archivio di Nuova Scrittura, since often someone more familiar with the article will recognize the correct referent. But just unlinking is reasonable too, especially in lists of links where the unlinkèdness sticks out pretty clearly. And I agree that the link at Alfredo Filippini probably refers to someone else entirely and should just not be linked. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (she|they|xe)23:18, 15 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Your newest photos of the Canary Islands continue to inspire me, Gerda! I've moved that destination up higher on my "must see" bucket list, just under Portugal and Morrocco. Enjoy your vacation. Many thanks for the wonderful photos you post, and all that you do here. All the best, Netherzone (talk) 23:44, 15 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
thank you - and yes, returning year after year in January because it's lovely (and Germany rather not in January, and little choir activity), see Gran Canaria. The neighbours said they came since 1982. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:13, 16 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Hi Gerda, Happy New Year to you, if it can posssibly be - As usual, Arbcom in December, and hideous changes to the interface in January. The Legacy experience for me. Best wishes! Eebahgum (talk) 02:21, 19 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
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On 27 January 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Elena Manistina, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that as a last-minute substitute in a premiere performance at Oper Frankfurt, Elena Manistina sang from the side while the assistant director mimed onstage? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Elena Manistina. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Elena Manistina).
I heard it (and by then she did the acting also). I believe that the hook would be much more interesting mentioning that she performed in Tchaikovsky's favourite (and unsuccessful) opera, The Enchantress, but the present DYK group didn't think so. "Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page." that sentence is part of the DYK credit, but try to tell an interesting fact, and see what happens in the nomination. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 00:12, 27 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
Would you consider mentoring for FAC with me and my work on the David Bentley Hart article?
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Would you consider mentoring me with my recent work on the article for the writer David Bentley Hart as I hope to put this article forward as a featured article candidate? If not, do you know of any other mentors that I might approach? Thank you for considering. Jjhake (talk) 21:21, 29 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you! I've got the "peer review request" active on it now as well as an active status as a "Philosophy and religion good article nominee." Are there other steps that I should take to get input on getting this to GA status? Jjhake (talk) 14:38, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
I helped several users with their first FA over the last two years, and perhaps go over my talk archives and check for "mentor". All images need alt descriptions of what they show, and in yours, the pic of author and dog is "sandwiching" the text. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:22, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. I'd be thrilled if @Kyle Peake: is able to help with a GA review on the David Bentley Hart article. I'll look through your talk archives and check for all uses of "mentor" to find more suggestions. Regarding alt descriptions for images, both images had brief descriptions in place already within an "alt" field, but I am likely not understanding something. To help with the pic of author and dog "sandwiching" the text, I moved that image from left to right side to see if that might help. Jjhake (talk) 21:54, 30 January 2023 (UTC)Reply
Women in Red in February 2023
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Women in Red Feb 2023, Vol 9, Iss 2, Nos 251, 252, 255, 256, 257, 259
Your choice, of course. - Some seats I wanted were already gone at 10am. I wanted to hear Mäkelä conduct Mahler again (19 August) but that concert won't happen. - Anybody: I came across Helena Forti, an article that needs care, and I don't have time. I fixed a few things, but it still shows that it's translated, and by a fan, too flowery language, too much detail about linked persons ... - Another gnomish thing to do: GoingBatty changed links to The Flying Dutchman that meant not the character but the opera Der fliegende Holländer, but left some as redirects, still showing The Flying Dutchman. That will be nonsense in most cases, when sung in German. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:24, 3 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
The opera was great, especially in growing silence. - RMF math (as noticed today when booking for a friend): in the basilica of Eberbach there are few cheap tickets with a bit of view, which are preferable to those in the back because of the acoustics of the hall. When they are gone, and you still want to see something, you have to go to at least €20 up, which makes break-even at 4 concerts. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:26, 4 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Thank you today for Jesus nahm zu sich die Zwölfe, BWV 22... introduced as "a cantata by J. S. Bach, one of two serving as his audition pieces for the post of Thomaskantor in Leipzig for which he became known. He had to show off, being not a favourite (Telemann and Grauper were) and the only candidate without university training. You may have met his more youthful BWV 172 before. This work is setting standards for the later cantata cycles." Extraordinary work as always, Gerda! DanCherek (talk) 00:39, 7 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, Dan, that's a great way to begin a day to be spent with friends. Please watch, I'll be out. I didn't write it alone, thanks to those who edited, reviewed, scheduled on the 300th aniversary of the first performance! With more time- I'll go into more detail. It's on top today, and check out the list of my top stories ;)
Hello Gerda, I would like to email you to get your thoughts and suggestions on a possible upcoming trip I may take to the Canary Islands. Your photographs have inspired me! Will you be available by email in the next few days or weeks? I know you are very busy, but I have some questions. Thanks in advance, Netherzone (talk) 22:25, 11 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Go ahead, just wait when an answer takes time. First info that might help: island hopping is expensive, which may not matter coming from the U.S., but for Europeans its a bit strange to pay more for the flight from one island on the next that you can see than for the four-hours flight from Frankfurt. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:08, 12 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Hi Gerda, hope all's well. I was just wondering if you might be able to do me a favour. I am writing an article about a English journalist Charles Norris-Newman who had an interesting career in military and intelligence circles as well as various legal troubles. Later in life he became a stamp collector and trader. I've found this German newspaper article that seems to concern a dispute over a stamp album but am struggling to work out what it says (I only studied German a very little at school and that was a long time ago!). Would you possibly be able to give me the gist of it? The old style text is hard for me to read but in case the link above is no good I think it goes something like:
Verlangt Briefmarten-(?)album gurüd
Charles L. Norris Newman, ein Briefmartenjammler, wurde ges(?)tern gegen Charles E.(?) Hußman, einen Beamten der Columbia Supply Co., auf Herausgabe eines Marten- albums mit 4000 seltenen Marken, die er auf $1500 beiverthet, flagbar. Falls das Album einbehalten wird, verlangt Newman $1500. In der K(?)lageschrift ist nicht angegeben, wie das Album in Hußman's Bejis gelangte. Der Bef(?)lagte wollte sich auf telegraphische Anfrage nicht über die Angelegenheit aussprechen.
I'll do what I can but that will be limited due to legal language and stamp collecting language.
German: Verlangt Briefmarkenalbum zurück Charles L. Norris Newman, ein Briefmarkensammler, wurde gestern gegen Charles E. Hußman, einen Beamten der Columbia Supply Co., auf Herausgabe eines Markenalbums mit 4000 seltenen Marken, die er auf $1500 bewertet, klagbar. Falls das Album einbehalten wird, verlangt Newman $1500. In der Klageschrift ist nicht angegeben, wie das Album in Hußman's Besitz gelangte. Der Beklagte wollte sich auf telegraphische Anfrage nicht über die Angelegenheit aussprechen.
English (Deepl): Demands stamp album back Charles L. Norris Newman, a stamp collector, was sued yesterday against Charles E. Hußman, an official of the Columbia Supply Co. for surrender of a stamp album containing 4000 rare stamps, which he values at $1500. If the album is retained, Newman is seeking $1500. The statement of claim does not specify how the album came into Hußman's possession. The defendant would not comment on the matter when asked by telegraph.
I wonder about "against" (by?). Sounds to me as if the collector holds the album, but the company thinks that's illegal, he didn't pay or what? Their first choice: he should return it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:05, 15 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks so much Gerda, that's great even though the old legalese is not clear. From what I know of Norris-Newman I wouldn't be surprised if he tried to pass off some dodgy stamps to Hußman. Cheers - Dumelow (talk) 10:31, 15 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Aha, thanks to your translation I've been able to find a bit more by searching "Hussman" in English-language papers. This article has the background, Hussman claimed the album was collateral for a loan but was ordered to return it. Many thanks - Dumelow (talk) 10:36, 15 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Do you take photo requests?
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I see you are quite the photographer. I am looking for someone to visit the Museum Folkwang in Essen, and take a photo of Lise with a Parasol in situ from about 2-4 meters away, from the angle of a patron visiting the museum and looking at the painting in the gallery from the side. I realize this is an unusual request, but if you are ever in that area and you have your camera, maybe you could help. I want to use this photo in the article about the painting in a section about the museum. It doesn’t matter if there are people in the frame or not (depending on German image capture rules, of course). Ignore this request if it is impossible. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 21:37, 16 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
User:Michael Bednarek, thank you for the kind offer. I am pursuing an approach with Lise with a Parasol where each section is best represented by just one image, with groups of images collected at the end of each section. For the section on "Provenance", an image of the painting in the gallery would be ideal, preferably from a few meters away and at a slight angle rather than straight on. I want the image to elicit the sensation of viewing the painting in the museum, perhaps that feeling one gets when rounding a corner and walking into a gallery and seeing it for the first time. This is why adequate distance is so important; it allows the viewer to judge how tall and wide it is in reality. There’s a possibility that a good photo that does this could also be used to illustrate how it must have appeared during its initial Salon appearance in relation to other works. Thank you again, and don’t fret if you are unable to fulfill this request. Viriditas (talk) 17:53, 17 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Help for someone's peer review for FAC?
Latest comment: 1 year ago2 comments2 people in discussion
Hello Gerda,
How have you been? I haven't been very productive recently in terms of content creation, but I've got back again with a GA review I did on the archaeologist Panagiotis Kavvadias. The editor responsible for the good work on the article wants to make this their first FA and has submitted a peer review request for improvement. Would you be interested in giving them some pointers when you have the time? I was reminded of your excellent help when I first climbed the FA mountain and thought that you might be the right person for such a case. (I will make a comment on the peer review, too, but I think the article would profit from another experienced pair of eyes.) I wish you all the best, Modussiccandi (talk) 09:23, 17 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for bringing it up, - I'll look, and only one FAC review is waiting (because 2 became FA before I got to it. I'm busy today, but hope for tomorrow. - Did you see my top story, 13 years after the DYK? And I still remember how cross I was that it came without image ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:16, 17 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Hey, Gerda! I'm wondering if you'd have time to give this a read just to make sure I haven't said anything stupid? I'm trying to be fair to this guy, but obviously it's pretty a big deal. (It's also obvious he should have had an article long before now, so it's kind of sad this was the thing that got one created.) Thanks for any help, and of course no worries if you don't have the time or interest. Valereee (talk) 17:59, 17 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
I’m travelling so I’ll take a look when I have the time (within 24 hours, after that I won’t be able to access a computer for about two days). Thanks for creating the article, Valereee. It’s on my long list of article to work on at some point but once the news came up I started dreading it. I don’t know a lot about him and had never seen any of his works in full but I’ll try to help as much as possible. The Australian Ballet will tour a ballet by him and three others at the Royal Opera House in London this summer, I was planning to do it then. At least I can now focus on the two other choreographers that don’t have articles yet. Corachow (talk) 19:44, 17 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Valereee, I looked again (briefly again), and found that we don't need a repetition of where "the incident" happened at the section's end. In his works, I find a bit exaggerated to have a new section for every year, but that's personal style. Will look closer later, - off to another opera, and having promised a peer review just above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:28, 18 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
I just got back online. I placed the years in bold instead of the separate sections. I'm planning to do a light rewrite on the fateful incident soon (probably in the next 24 hours, I'm still on my trip), to include a bit more detail. Corachow (talk) 17:56, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Sorry
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Somehow I clicked the wrong link and ended up on the wrong page. I get confused with the new TOC and simply clicked the new topic button or something. Anyway apologies. Victoria (tk) 16:19, 18 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Yes, of course. I made a screen shot with both right and left unhidden because that's what I thought a reader who isn't logged in would see. But then, thinking about it, I wondered what the unlogged in reader sees because they don't have the tools column. So I looked and it's better than the screenshot I posted. Still, without access to a wide monitor I don't know how it looks. That's the problem these days. Follow ups with other screenshots welcome, but maybe share on that talk? Happy to hear that you had good music! You are fortunate to have access to a good opera house and productions. Victoria (tk) 21:41, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for thinking further, Victoria! For most readers, those on mobiles, the matter is of no concern as they get the infobox after the first paragraph of the lead, - the socalled "bleeding" doesn't happen to them. - Yes, I feel blessed that the opera house of the year is less than a hour by train away, and good church music we make ourselves ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:09, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
You mentioned factions. I see two factions: one for whom the feature is a given, and one who fights it. The latter is small but much more passionate. As there have been no battles in the last five or so years (until recently), we have hundreds of users who don't even know a conflict exists/existed. I hope and work for ending it, and believe that the compromise (well defined and concise) you supported should be adopted for other articles. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:53, 19 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Gerda, FYI re "one who fights it"....well I have the new skin turned off, but cant be bothered to "fight it", or at least thats not how I want to spend my remaining time on earth. ps, thanks for the lovely music yesterday[1] :) Again FYI, Ukraine has/had a banging Techno scene - more commercial than what comes out of Berlin, but more pure and inventive than the current UK or US scenes. Ceoil (talk) 12:25, 25 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Gerda,
We first met at Frauen-Liebe und Leben although (according to the talk) it still needs a further rename. Because of a very unhappy experience (pre-WP) with some video nasties, I decided not to be associated with anything to do with these sorts of films, and removed your precious icon from my user page some time ago. I have since come to realise that it is possible to write a 'good' article about subjects which I find wholly repugnant. With your kind permission I would like to display the icon once more. With very best wishes, MinorProphet (talk) 00:08, 20 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Gerda, your behaviour is disgraceful. You deliberately added an infobox to Robert le diable, a GA article, without any consultation. I have removed it. You know perfectly well, from your own history, that to do this sort of thing is unacceptable. In Talk:Jenny Lind a few days ago you wrote that "I admit that I added an infobox to Georg Solti, because I failed to look up who the principal editors were. I normally do, and leave the articles in peace, respecting their editors' wishes." It now turns out that this is completely untrue. You edited Robert le diable when you must clearly have seen who the princpal editor(s) were who brought it to GA. Please now leave this article in peace as you claim to do. If I have any further evidence of this sort of behaviour I will make a formal complaint. Smerus (talk) 19:46, 22 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Perhaps you may profit from re-reading Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera/Archive 125 (2016), another nutshell Voceditenore saying: "I personally think that as a matter of courtesy and prudence, one should run the addition up the flag pole on a Featured Article first, regardless of which project has bannered it. But otherwise no, it's bureaucratic and a bloody waste of time to start a talk page discussion before adding any infobox anywhere on Wikipedia. It's no different to adding or removing any other content or formatting to an article." (emphasis mine, - thanks, Voce.) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:52, 22 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
User:Smerus, don’t you think you are being extremely rude by accusing Gerda of disgraceful behavior? Infoboxes are not for editors, they are for readers. And while there are any number of arguments against them based on design and presentation, at the end of the day we should write for the reader in mind. Personally, I have recently taken to the concept of auto-generated infoboxes linked to Wikidata for consistency and data integrity. See the infobox at Lise with a Parasol for one example of this usage. Ideally, this would mean that user preferences would determine infobox usage, not editors, making your argument moot. Try to broaden your view on this. Viewing infoboxes should be user definable, not determined by the editor. Viriditas (talk) 08:48, 24 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Borrowed from the time of Lent, a time of abstinence, which has been translated in a broader sense to "7 weeks without ...", I suggest that we try over the next 7 weeks to deal with infoboxes as with other content matter, and keep discussing them without personal comments. Treating infoboxes like other content was proposed by Voceditenore back in 2016, and is the best approach towards peace I've seen so far. The socalled infobox wars have ended long ago, but some are still fighting it seems. Today's featured article is Artemy Vedel, standing for Ukrainian music.
The choral music of Artemy Vedel, who is regarded as one of the Golden Three composers of 18th-century Ukrainian classical music, was censored but performed from handwritten copies.
His is also a composer article with an infobox, the third TFA of that kind in 2023. Yesterday I added an infobox for an architect linked from the Main page, and the article's author sent me a thank-you click. For the opera, the edit summary said "suggest", and of course a suggestion can be refused, but preferably with a factual reason, not with personal aspersions. Jenny Lind has an infobox now per the wish of the community, as Tchaikovsky and Joyce among others, all of these boxes concise and well-curated, which seems the compromise we should go for. The concept was suggested in 2013 by Brian Boulton, on this talk page, called identibox. (Brian tried it first on Percy Grainger.) I hope it will finally get traction, towards peace. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:49, 24 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Although these infobox wars have faded with the passing of time, even today I catch glimpses of others conflicting over them. For these seven weeks, I will try to help others move towards peace. The Night Watch(talk)21:31, 25 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
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While adding geographic coordinates to articles in need of them, I ran across this article you created. Frankly, the topic seems to be a run-of-the-mill church, with nothing in the article or references that suggests notability. Is there anything architecturally (or otherwise) significant about the church that could be added to establish notability? (My first thought was to prod the article, until I saw that you created it.) Deor (talk) 00:13, 23 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Gerda, I would like to accept your kind offer to help me with Sichten on German Wikipedia! Could you Sichten my QS-template additions on the 15 articles listed with my username on de:Wikipedia:Qualitätssicherung/26._Februar_2023? When I tried to clean up Raphael Wallfisch here on en, I found long quotes from copyrighted sources, and thought it best to completely revert Fu-Lank's edits and start over. I checked some of his edits on de, and some contain copyvio. I don't know what is permitted on de, nor how to deal with suspected copyvio there. It seemed the least intrusive way to deal with Fu-Lank's obvious COI edits was to list them all on Qualitätssicherung. Unfortunately, the articles themselves don't show the Qualitätssicherung templates I added because, you guessed it, I don't have permission to publish them! Thank you so much for your help, I am sorry to drag you into this. -- OrestesLebt (talk) 07:50, 27 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Again, I'm really sorry to have bothered you with this when more important things were happening in real life. I finished working on de:Manuela Röck even though I was confronted with unfriendliness on de again (I wonder how they can keep the users this way?!), but I had already invested a lot of time. I don't know if the Qualitätssicherung is very active, maybe you, Gerda, or maybe you @Michael could have a look at my edits? Thank you so much!
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Dear Gerda, Thanks for your recent spring messages. I like the ladies you have been featuring! Sorry not to communicate much just now, issues with health of self and Mum (nearly 102). Wasn't there an old VOX recording of the Reger concerto? - but not, of course, with La Hodapp. I am here, hiding down a rabbit-hole, and thought of you a few days ago when I found a bit about singing from hilltops in (I think) Ecclesiastes, but lost the place again... Greetings to you, in the Quaker light. Eebahgum (talk) 12:52, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for coming over. Look for your great outdoors singing in last years archive ;) - The recording of the Reger concerto is linked from the bottom of the article. A friend of mine will sing on Sunday, - I knew her since her mum had her on her lap during rehearsals for the St Matthew (the first). She was already a soloist in our best concert ever, the Monteverdi Vespers (2019, the last), and will be in the next two (Misatango and Duruflé Requiem). - Best wishes for your health, and your mum's. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:23, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
Ah, the Reger premiere was under the great Nikisch. In my Cambridge days rather more than 40 years ago, I visited a household in Grantchester where a delightful elderly lady had a chat with me about music. "Does anyone remember the name of Artur Nikisch?", she asked me - and I said well yes, I did, anyway, because I knew that he had developed such an important partnership with Elena Gerhardt at the start of her career, and had sort of breathed his musicianship into her readings of Schubert and Wolf, and I even managed to raise some enthusiasm for his handling in the Beethoven 5 recording. She said that before the first War she was going out in London with a young man, who took her to the entire season of Nikisch concerts (in 1912?). This goggled my imagination a bit, so I asked what she remembered of it. "Oh, he was a nice looking man with a handsome beard, and didn't wave his arms about too much!" Do any of us know how we will be remembered? Eebahgum (talk) 19:17, 2 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
Mary Bauermeister
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Hello, please see my new comment in the talk section of the reformation page. It is about the first line and whether or not to include "protestant revolt" as an alternative title. The Bee Eater (talk) 01:33, 3 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
The Bee Eater, I looked, and had a hard time finding your comment (in the middle of a 2016 discussion). Please consider the following: Begin a new topic (at the bottom), only referring to the old discussion, if you want to pursue the matter. In 2016, one user summarised the sources that say revolt as counter-revolutionary Catholic. In order for revolt to appear in the lead, it should appear with detailed sourcing and history in the body, of which the lead is a summary. It doesn't, so you'd get a clear no from me, with the argument that the sources are from a certain point of view. See WP:POV, - it seems not to be a name common in general discussions. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:51, 3 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Dear Gerda, Thank you once again for my yearly reminder and for being so thoughtful, generous and kind in support of us all! I hope you are having a good year so far, and I wish you a Happy Spring in two weeks' time! Please keep well, safe, musical and joyful. With kindest regards; Patrick. ツ Pdebee.(talk)(become old-fashioned!)15:52, 6 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for the lovely words and flowers! Take crocuses in return if you like! I listened to great music yesterday, pictured on top, did you see? I am chewing on "disgraceful behaviour" - also above, but so far found no better response than letting it go. - I take care of articles of those who recently died, and Mary Bauermeister fascinated me especially (just above). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:06, 6 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
"Precious anniversary"
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Regarding a template you posted to my talk page, I now see the linked Wikipedia:WikiProject Quality Article Improvement/Precious page says Reminders of the award are sent annually to users who were active during the last year, until the tenth year, when a special award is given as a final reminder.
Please don't send me any more annual reminders of the time that someone posted a picture of a gemstone to my talk page. This doesn't seem like something that I really need to be alerted to. Thanks. Belbury (talk) 09:32, 7 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Hi Gerda. That article was started and heavily edited back in 2009 by his self-admitted PR person who started several other articles by artists he/she represented. From the edit summaries, the current editor appears to be the subject or at least claims to be the subject. I’m going to list this at the Opera Project. Hopefully someone would enjoy rendering it …er… more encyclopaedic 😛. Voceditenore (talk) 16:11, 7 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
I snooped around a bit. Almost all sources give July 17 as the premiere. The only two who give the 15th are Almanacco and one other Italian source. However, multiple sources list Johanna Klemperer as Helene, Betty Mergler as Aunt Emma, and Lothar (can’t remember her first name) as the serving girl. I’ll do some more snooping and list the sources on the talk page in a couple of days. Voceditenore (talk) 17:40, 10 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
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since you are one of the most active authors in the above mentioned article could you please check my questions and suggestions on [2] ? thx! kind regards!
ps: and since you are engadged also in matters of the ukraine-war I take the freedom to send to you two texts regarding the topic. may be you can use them...
sorry, this will take a litte time. line breaks here are not easy...
however, people in my circle of acquaintances think, that waging war, even from the side of 'the west', is immoral, especially under the danger of an atomic escalation, and that one should stick to passive resitance and attempts to negotiate... what do you think? may be see also [3]
HilmarHansWerner, if something is wrong please boldly fix it! - I dealt with the article long ago, and as a translation from German if my memory doesn't fail me, so the answer to questions may be in the German Wikipedia. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:47, 8 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
hi Gerda Arendt! would you be so kind to write this on the talk-page of the poem, so your consent for alterations is public?
I don't need to write anything on the talk page, Wikpedia has no ownership (at least ideally), all content is free, make changes and explain in a good edit summary (which could include: per GA's talk page).
Now the poem: while it is a good text, I removed it (but it will be in the edit history), because Wikipedia is also very strict on copyright, and it's not clear who the author is. You could put it on a user page of yours, and link to it, - how is that? To write poetry, you just enclose a poem in <poem>your text</poem> and any formatting will be taken. Please don't use <br> but add a backslash to it after the br, or the helpful colours of my editor get confused. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:34, 8 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
I simply quoted you on the talk-page, so you don't need to bother... ;-)
and thank you for trying to help with coding in the english wikipedia! but your suggestions don't work, as you see in the following (also looking at the code, where you can see the line breaks...; I had tried <nowiki> ... </nowiki> alone before):
<nowiki><poem>
So thank you,
people of Ukraine!
You are a model
for humanity!
And just for me,
my mood
and my morale,
a private
power-spring.
</poem></nowiki>
but you are right: <br> is old-fashioned and not strict. so I wanted to replace the tags, but you edited out my texts, and I don't have 'the nerves' and the time to redo all the work...
and I did not quite understand what you meant by "the poem" that you "removed". do you mean the german original text, or my translation. regarding the latter I can happily grant permission to use it (as the author)... HilmarHansWerner (talk) 21:50, 8 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
We had an edit conflict, sorry. I wrote this:
I am sorry that my explanation didn't work for you: just copy the brackets with poem in it, then your text, then the /poem. the nowiki thingy is only to make it visible, - do you understand?
So thank you,
people of Ukraine!
You are a model
for humanity!
And just for me,
my mood
and my morale,
a private
power-spring.
The long version is here, take/copy from it what you like, but please in case you want to go to edit mode don't hit "publish" or I will get an old version of my talk.
Adding now, after the conflct: this is my talk, it's for conversations, not to hold a long poem. Please have it somewhere where I can link to, like a sandbox. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:28, 8 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
Shoe laces
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Since nearly one year:
Left-hand trainer: Yellow laces
Right-hand trainer: Blue laces
Maybe it's time to change them over.
Until yesterday I had no idea that Dmitri Bortniansky was from that part of the world.
Thank you. My favourite by him is the fourth because that was the first symphony I heard in a concert hall, conducted from memory, - a lasting impression. But I learned about composers such as Artemy Vedel only over the last year. Va, pensiero - Nabucco is on the Main page today, mostly the work of Viva-Verdi. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:08, 9 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
A Barnstar
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Hey there @Gerda Arendt, and thanks again for your help on Igor Stravinsky. In the past few hours, a large number of changes were made to the article by User:Aza24, and I'm not sure if all of them align with consensus. For starters, they cut a very large chunk of text regarding Stravinsky's unique use of orchestration, which I think is quite essential to understanding the unique style of Stravinsky. Additionally, the infobox was changed to Template:Infobox classical composer and the movements Stravinsky was involved in was replaced with occupation. I've left a message on their talk page, but I'm not sure how much I should say. I guess I'm asking three things: what are your thoughts on this, is it worth addressing, and if so, how should I go about doing so? MyCatIsAChonk (talk) 00:42, 11 March 2023 (UTC) I do realize this may seem a bit silly, but I am still a bit new to this whole thing!Reply
As you probably know, the answer should not be found on user talk pages, but the article talk. For things that were in the article for a long time (I don't know the history but you do) you could revert and call for discussion. - In this case, you could also call for a peer review. Only, chances for a TFA this year then are minimal. I'll check the infobox. - Right now, I am busy with other things. I usually appreciate Aza24's knowledge and insight - there will be reasons for the changes and hopefully a consensus, perhaps we'll learn something. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:29, 11 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
MCIAC, I admire your hook collection for DYK ;) - With the current trend (and I left for that trend), the quirky will make it ;) - also my favourite. - I think that Stravinsky is known enough to not have to add "composer", and "Russian", well, is he even? Paris, New York ... - If he is POD, there's no chance for a TFA also, so we can take that easy and run a gentle peer review before FAC. For DYK, the limit of reserving in advance is six weeks, but I'm not sure if from nomination or approval. If from approval, let's discuss no end until 15 April, which would not be unusual ;) - I had seen the Aza edits before going to sleep (so when I saw your message I was afraid there were additional ones), and found them reasonable. What was cut should of course be in the specific compositions, - please make sure. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:16, 11 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
Call me Gerda ;) - Thanks for the refs and the PR! You can call it off anytime t start a FAC. He will have a birthday next year also, so no rush. To have the article in best possible shape is enough of a goal. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:15, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hey Gerda, thanks again for your PR of Stravinsky! I've responded to some of your comments with questions, just to clarify some things; additionally, I recently expanded the "Music" section, and would greatly appreciated it if you could take a look over that too. Thank you! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) 12:32, 3 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
As said there, I'll need some time, on Wikipedia alone: I have to expand the article for Good Friday, fight a notability tag for a Passion hymn, write the article of our next two choral pieces, and do a promised FAC review. I real life: three rehearsal nights in a row followed by four appearences in choirs + dear company. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:28, 3 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Congratulations! It's long enough and new enough for DYK, but lacking inline citations. Let me know whe done. I'd give him an infobox, and have the images standard size. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:02, 13 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
The hook could be:"... that fritz Wurlitzer also made the very rare bass clarinets in A and developed the prototype of a double bass clarinet?" - Gisbert ツ (talk) Illustrate Wikipedia !17:25, 15 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
Quelle Kontrabassklarinette? Da ist ein Bild gemacht von Enrico Weller im Artikel. Ist diese Klarinette von Fritz Wurlitzer gemacht? Wenn ja, dann schreib das in der Legende oder besser im Text. In welchem Museum ist das Exponat ausgestellt? Quelle? Grimes2 (talk) 17:42, 15 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Hi, while going through my "complete Mozart" collection, I check for the story synopsis on WP. I'm now at Ascanio in Alba and noted that the article has two embedded lists, one of the arias and one of all "numbers", which again contains all the arias. Isn't that a bit repetitive? I don't usually edit articles in this area, so I thought it best to come here first before editing the article myself. --Randykitty (talk) 14:44, 19 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Gerda, as a test, could you try posting something on my talk? It's semi-protected to exclude unsigned (IP user) comments, but there shouldn't be any problem with a standard registered-user comment. Vielen Dank. – Sca (talk) 12:25, 24 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
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I hope you had a great holiday. Tomorrow, Friday 31st March, 20:00, will be a live stream of the concert "Ligeti 100" available on the hr Sinfonieorchester website. They will perform "Poème Symphonique For 100 Metronomes". Grimes2 (talk) 12:50, 30 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Hi Gerda, hope you are well and I hope you don't mind me asking you and/or your talk page watchers for some help. I have an article about a minor figure of 18th century Germany (Ludwig Ferdinand Huber, once a very close friend of Schiller; you might remember reviewing him at DYK) at FAC, and I think the nomination could do with some more expert input (I have already had very useful feedback on prose). I wonder if you or one of your many talk page watchers could either do a review of the article or recommend the best expert to ask for this topic area. Any feedback would be welcome. —Kusma (talk) 10:57, 1 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I will look, but patience please, just returned from vacation, behind on many things, and the holy week before me, singing four days in a row not counting the two rehearsals. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:59, 1 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
There's no rush (yet), it is great if you can check it out when you have the time. Enjoy the singing (my only time in a choir was 20 years ago but I still have fond memories) and a happy holy week, —Kusma (talk) 11:25, 1 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
DYK for Alchymic Quartet
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Dear Gerda Arendt, I wanted to thank you for sharing a reminder of my Precious Anniversary. I still remain grateful for you presenting me with such a thoughtful commemoration on that day. I wish you and yours a most blessed Easter season. With warm regards, AnupamTalk18:28, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Hi @Gerda Arendt! I hope you're staying well. I am considering nominating my article on Henryk Stażewski to FA and since you're one of the "mentors", I would really appreciate your input. It passed as GA in January and I have added more content since then. There's some very recent scholarship, which I hope to include soon, though overall it is likely the most extensive encyclopedic biography of the artist available online. Do you think it would be a good idea to nominate it? Thank you dearly, as always. Ppt91talk20:26, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Please check out my user page: I have a few reviews waiting, and am not familiar with the topic. At a glance, it looks like good size and structure. Too many images left, images larger than usual which may be fine for a visual artist's work. All images will need an "alt=" text: a short description as if telling a blind what to see. While you wait ;) - I recommend a peer review, quite generally. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:34, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you and my apologies, as I was unaware of the amount of reviews you had going on and did not mean to add any more work. In any case, this is very helpful and much appreciated. :-) Ppt91talk20:42, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
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[Template:Did you know nominations/R565 road (Ireland) Here is a higher resolution image] from Flickr that I think could be improved with a bit of work but it is freely licenced. You may want to consider it instead of the current one. I've got a retouched version on my computer if you want to see it first, in which case just email me. ww2censor (talk) 16:54, 12 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
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On 22 April 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Clemens Bosselmann, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that for a rare performance in 2023 of the St Matthew Passion by the 18th-century composer Homilius, the conductor Clemens Bosselmann had to track down handwritten sheet music? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Clemens Bosselmann. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Clemens Bosselmann), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Thank you for being such a prolific contributor to DYK. It is always a pleasure to interact with you and I love your messages. Bruxton (talk) 03:17, 22 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, Aoidh and Bruxton, you do a lot to repair my broken relationship with DYK. It's for the readers, after all, who should be reached, and for the topics that should be made known. Today is the birthday of my brother, with whom I performed a memorable concert in the church not mentioned and not shown, - great coincidence! Wer bis an das Ende beharrt was sung in the concert, which promises becoming blessed to those who (stubbornly) "hold on until the end". (Deepl says: "who persevere".) I woke up thinking that it would be a good piece for my funeral ;) - Of the many choirs I sang with, three held concerts in that church: great memories! And now came this new conductor of a choir I never sang with and gave us the revelation of this piece. Singing will go on without me, DYK will go on without me, but when I have another story I have to tell, I come back. Just for fun: this was counted as #1901. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:33, 22 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Dear Gerda,
I find it very regrettable that pages of the German Wikipedia on Bruckner's works, apart from those on symphonies, are so sketchy or even totally absent.
This is the reason why I have, a few days ago, begun to thoroughly review the few drafts of articles that already existed on some of the Masses and the Requiem (not yet that on Mass No. 3 in F minor). I have also created, based on those on the English Wikipedia, articles on the remaining Masses, the Magnificat and the five Psalms, as well as descriptive lists on the works for piano and organ, as well as the motets and the secular choral works.
I am aware that the result is not perfect, given my non-optimal knowledge of the German language.
If you can find some time for it, I would be happy if you could have a look at the articles I have already reviewed or created.
Thank you for the effort, and for letting me know. - I'll take a look, but my time is limited until mid-May. I just added where I sang his second mass the first time, - pictured just above. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:59, 23 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Réginald, I looked at the Mass No. 1, doing some copy-editing. - Perhaps you can compare and change things in the other masses. Generally in de-WP:
work titles are italic, all of them
quotation marks should be German quotation marks
avoid sentences that are nice to know but have no immediate relevance (I commented one out).
I found the line about the intonations for Gloria and Credo - no time to check who wrote which.
Good luck. - You could do me two favours: fix the name of the image of "Marktkirche" which has a typo in that very name, and go over my flower images for better names and categories - a few possibly to come later today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:11, 23 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Danke schön!
About the intonations for Gloria and Credo, see e.g. Zum Schluss sei noch darauf hingewiesen, dass sowohl bei der Messe am Gründonnerstag, der 1. wie bei der 2. Messe wie auch bei der Missa solmenis der Anfangssatz von Gloria und Credo von Bruckner nicht mitkomponiert worden ist: In der katholischen Liturgie wird dieser Satz vom Priester gesagt bzw. gregorianisch gesungen, und dann erst setzt der Chor ein.
I checked it out, and sometimes laughed, forgive me. Vocabulary: scoring = Besetzung (while Hinrichtung is execution in a deadly sense, and Aufführung means performance), measure is Takt (not Maßnahme). Generic titles such as Kyrie don't need any quotations, and - as said above - in German it would be italic always, never quotation marks. For minor modes, the letter indicating the key is lower-case: f-Moll. I commented out two paragraphs in the recordings that were still in English. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:35, 25 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Danke vielmals, Dear Gerda!
I was probably have become tired, so that I had forgotten to check the automatic translation of the alineas with Hinrichtung and Maßnahme, and the keys. So far I know, I have used these words Aufführung and Takt in the other translated pages, and I have also correctly adapted the keys, e.g. as D-Dur and f-Moll.
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Hi Gerda, just to expand a bit on my edit summary when reverting your addition to May 30, please have a look at this statement "People and events listed should be independently notable and should therefore each have an article." in WP:DOY for what the requirements for adding an entry to a DOY article are. Hope that helps. Kiwipete (talk) 04:26, 24 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Kiwipete, thank you for explaining. The event of Bach assuming the position of Thomaskantor (300 years ago on 30 May 2023) is notable:
It is the position he is known for, he held it from 1723 until his death, composed three cantata cycles (weekly cantatas!), the great Passions, the Christmas Oratorio, and the Mass in B minor.
We have an article on the position, and I guess that's because of him. (We don't have Kreuzkantor (yet), only a redirect.)
This may be the type of entry that is more suitable for the year page 2023, or indeed 1723 itself. I have very little knowledge of these pages - my focus is more on the DOY pages. I will also post a question/comment on the DOY talk page with a link to this question to try to reach a wider audience. Kiwipete (talk) 04:52, 29 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you!
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Thank you, Gerda Arendt, for the eight year reminder. Always amazed at your abilities to remember and keep these precious records. Please have a wonderful and productive year. Best wishes, SusanLesch (talk) 14:03, 24 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
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On 27 April 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Heinz Schwarz, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Heinz Schwarz attended all CDU party conventions from the first ever in 1950 to 2020? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Heinz Schwarz. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Heinz Schwarz), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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I have a question that you probably know the answer to: I have been assuming that when a German church has no common name in English, but can be translated, then it should be, so "Peterskirche" would become "St. Peter's church" on en.wiki. Is that correct? Or would it be better to keep it as "Peterskirche"? Furius (talk) 19:50, 29 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
I'd keep it as Peterskirche, if no English source calls it anything else. I'd translate once, probably St. Peter's Church. The more Protestant, the more I'd keep it, as Protestantism doesn't support individual saints much. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:34, 29 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Good morning Gerda. I have been editing Wikipedia for quite sometime. Today I discovered a circular logo at top right of my user page [4]. I never noticed it before. On hovering my mouse over it, I could read "Identified as a precious editor". I find it a great honor. However I would like to know when was I given this status. Is there a way to know it? Kindly let me know. Please also tell me how I can achieve higher and higher status. I love editing Wikipedia. Although I retired as a medical doctor, I love knowledge in general and tend to edit in almost all categories. Thanks for your time.Anil1956 (talk) 02:47, 1 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks Gerda. It was certainly unintentional. I do not know how to remove it. If I did not get it from the administrators, I do not want this undeserved credit. Please do remove it. Thanks.
The article Johanna Geisler you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Johanna Geisler for comments about the article, and Talk:Johanna Geisler/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Chiswick Chap -- Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:41, 1 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Hi Gerda! Following up from your comment here, I think the difficulty is that even seemingly non-controversial topics can have editing disputes, so it's hard to know where to draw the line and often better to be on the safe side. For truly hot topics, the trend I notice is that there are many different "this is a hot topic" banners (see my third bullet point here), so I'd like to see those all merged into one.
Also, {{Talk header}} has some deeper issues, as we were able to remove the line about signatures after automatic post signing was introduced, but this now means that there are only two lines in the white box (and the first one could probably just be replaced with a button), compared to four in the tan area to the side. A more ground-up redesign might be needed to address that lopsidedness. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}}talk07:03, 4 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Let's do that, thinking about it. I never use talk header for articles I create, having been told by Iridescence (years ago) about the original concept, but might use it if it gets redesigned. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:08, 4 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Hello Gerda. I've launched a peer review for Mark-Anthony Turnage's Blood on the Floor. The piece is a fusion of jazz and classical music. I wondered if you would like to take a look, as I greatly appreciated your comments the last time. I'm thinking of taking the article to FA after GAN: it's one of the more extensive articles I've written. Thanks, Schminnte (talk • contribs)21:11, 12 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you. I can wait as long as you need: I've also advertised over at WikiProject Jazz in case I've messed up anything (I'm a classical musician at heart). Thanks for the early comments, I'll get onto those in the mean time. Schminnte (talk • contribs)21:22, 12 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
I glimpsed: give it an infobox (or it looks like a 2014 thing) - try shorter captions - have upright images smaller - say sooner that the title refers to the painting. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:20, 12 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
I'm thinking of closing the peer review soon. If you are still interested I can leave it open, but I've already received two larger reviews so you should feel no obligation :) Schminnte (talk • contribs)11:58, 19 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
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1923 – Fünfzehn Jahre zuvor von Anna Marie Jarvis in den Vereinigten Staaten erfunden, wird auf Initiative des Fachverbandes Deutscher Floristen erstmals auch im Deutschen Reich der Muttertag begangen.
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I received this barnstar:
The Content Creativity Barnstar
Thank you for being such a strong content editor -. Don't let the infobox wars and bad faith editors get to you. Your the type of editor we need more of here - :-) Moxy (talk) 03:16, 17 May 2013 (UTC)Reply
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Why is her following novels are redlinks but not her debut novel? Why does the opening paragraph say quitting? What did she quit? Being a bookeeper or author? Thanks if you reply. 70.24.31.104 (talk) 11:32, 17 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Please raise questions on the article talk page. The following novels have articles in German, but not Pong. I had the idea to write at least one of the articles in English, but having seen the German ones, mostly rather personally written detailed plots, lost interest. - The lead says "was a writer"-. I thought it's clear that she didn't "quit" writing. If you don't agree please find a better wording. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:57, 17 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
DYK for Irma Blank
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On 21 May 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Irma Blank, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the art of Irma Blank, of "drawing languages without words" and including sounds, was recognised in the 1970s but fell into obscurity until a rediscovery in the 2010s? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Irma Blank. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Irma Blank), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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On 27 May 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Surrexit a mortuis, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Easter composition Surrexit a mortuis (He rose from the dead) was scored for choir and two organs by Charles-Marie Widor, the organist at Saint-Sulpice in Paris? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Surrexit a mortuis. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Surrexit a mortuis), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Thank you - heard feature on WDR 3 (while traveling) with interesting excerpts of music and interviews - today is Korngold's birthday - yesterday I heard Mahler's First, with my brother in the orchestra, on the birthday of a friend who had played it as a hornist as a teenager --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 29 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Want to fix a reasonable sized edit to Voice type?
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I was looking at the article Voice type, and saw that it has a few citation errors at the bottom. Research shows that those came from this edit, a few weeks ago, by User:TUJ51090 who says they are a student editor in a university Music class, and haven't edited in three weeks. So I don't think asking them will help, and yet I want to be kind to them. I looked at that edit, and besides the citation errors, which I may be able to figure out myself, it also added some things about singers that I'm not qualified to pass judgment on, and think you probably are. For one thing, that edit mostly changed all uses of "Male voices" and "Female voices" to "Bass voices" and "treble voices" (yes, mostly capital "Bass" and mostly lower case "treble", though with occasional spelling errors). Is that the common terminology in singing nowadays? It also added a sentence or two about transgender singers, so their motivation seems clear. Would you be able to look over that edit and fix things? If not, I can fix the spelling and Wikipedia mechanics mistakes, but I might make mistakes about the actual content, as I am not qualified to have opinions about voice types. (My singing ability was once limited to joining in singing in the car on family trips... until my family very kindly asked me to please stop. ) --GRuban (talk) 16:46, 30 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for pointing me there. - At about the same time - coincidence! - I wrote to you about having been busy over Pentecost. I'll look, but not immediately. - Music note to self: Pentecost was full of music, and my story today is that 300 years ago today, Bach became Thomaskantor, with BWV 75, writing music history, my first OTD with a blurb, and a pic but the wrong pic if you ask me - he's way too old ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:52, 30 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Music for Pentecost
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Music and company for Pentecost were particularly lovely, therefore I repeat the links here. The next day, I received the link to the youtube of our inspired concert on 6 May, - for dessert, but don't miss looking at the cakes my cousin made.
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I'm going to be in and out over the summer ... I'd appreciate it if you'd pause making any music posts in my userspace during this time. Thanks. They sometimes confuse me. - Dank (push to talk) 12:45, 4 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
I don't know what you mean by music posts ;) - what I do is from time to time, related to a story I want to tell (see below, a great singer, perhaps watch the beginning of the video), I pass it with a calendar image, and a link to my latest pics ("songs"). I'll do that right now, but will skip you. Call it my extended signature. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:20, 5 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
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On 5 June 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Aile Asszonyi, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in Strauss's Elektra, Aile Asszonyi was said to be convincing as a woman close to madness? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Aile Asszonyi. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Aile Asszonyi).
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The article Soňa Červená you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Soňa Červená for comments about the article, and Talk:Soňa Červená/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Jack4576 -- Jack4576 (talk) 08:20, 9 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Follow the fellow who follows the dream
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It's been more than a year my dear... Yes, I saw it. Yes, I miss you all ! Is everything alright ? Is your friend still listening to Bruckner while you buy tram tickets in Frankfurt ? Well... once upon a time there was a gnome, no, a Leprechaun, from Northen Ireland, called O'Riley... because, sense of humor is part of the learning process dear. Oh, we don't need that, it's published already ! No, not Bruckner, Chaminade and her composition as of 2022-03-13 ! No, not for nothing, for my amusement and knowledge in three different languages now. And I ask myself, do I need that Realey ? There's nothing wrong there, rowspans are everywhere ! I didn't do that for myself ! A kiss and a bis my Pumpkin Flower !! Yes, yes we talk KrenakaroreTKKrenakaroreTK19:07, 16 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
Ich hatte gestern eine Vision von einem unheimlich schönen Gemälde des gekreuzigten Jesus, das angeblich in Städel hängt. Weißt Du vielleicht etwas darüber. Grimes2 (talk) 15:41, 17 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
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On 18 June 2023, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Suna Kan, which you nominated and updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Schwede6601:03, 18 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Hi Gerda. You awarded me a "Precious" four years ago, which meant a lot to me at the time, because I was going through some bad stuff. However, if I'm honest, the annual "Precious anniversary" message doesn't mean anything to me. Could you please take me off your list of recipients? Thanks. Scolaire (talk) 12:16, 23 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
See and hear what I sang (our first concert on YouTube!) and enjoyed as a listener. I took the standing ovation picture from my choir perspective, sit in the second (the one in yellow, also seen a bit in the video), and confess that the third is last year's (same seat, orchestra and conductor). For details - the performers - click on the dates in the headers. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:09, 28 June 2023 (UTC)Reply
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On 29 June 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Soňa Červená, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that international opera singer Soňa Červená(pictured) won the Alfréd Radok Award for Best Actress when she was 83 years old? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Soňa Červená. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Soňa Červená), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Hi Gerda, next season (22 March 2024) is Johannespassion at Alte Oper Frankfurt, I've booked already and some other concerts. It's new to me, but looks promising. Seems to be a week bevor Good Friday. Grimes2 (talk) 08:57, 1 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Not this time, and it was my first. A good place to return some day. - Opera in Frankfurt was exceptional, enormous music, and in the end the GMD entered the stage from below, and the whole orchestra, most players with instruments, came from the sides, and the GMD was granted honorary membership. Quite moving. Applause almost as long as for the conductor in the morning at our 50th. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:50, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Weigle's last opera in Frankfurt. I think, he did a good job. I will book Ligeti's Grande macabre next season with new GMD. Grimes2 (talk) 16:45, 4 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
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"battleship"? really? is that all we have to say about a living person? along with a battle for TFA, the invasion for ITN, a ship sunk with 300 dead ... - really? - look at the battle of that nomination.
go out, seek delight
On 4 July 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Christopher Lowrey, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that countertenor Christopher Lowrey's voice has been described as "packed with enough character to sink a battleship"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Christopher Lowrey. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Christopher Lowrey), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Richard Strauss and Pauline De Ahna married on 10th September 1894, so how about Morgen! which was the best of his four musical wedding presents to her? Come to think of it didn't Robert Schumann also give Clara Wieck a set of songs for their wedding? Dronkle (talk) 21:23, 12 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
I'm never going to discourage a mention of Parsifal which I last heard just over a year ago in a semi-staged performance at the Royal Festival Hall. The Schumanns were married on 12 September 1840 according to the Berliner Philharmoniker [5]. There isn't an article on Myrthen yet which was the wedding present. Dronkle (talk) 12:12, 13 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Dearest Gerda. My words will never be able to fully express my gratitude for all that you have shared over the years. I stopped editing a few weeks ago and have decided to not return to WikiP. I am looking forward to seeing The Flying Dutchman, Tosca and Rusalka at the Santa Fer Opera in a few weeks. I send my very best wishes to you now and in the future. Thanks again. MarnetteD|Talk20:14, 14 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
I will miss you, - see what we just discussed, Storye book, Ched and I. Returning from Le vin herbé, which I think you'd also have enjoyed. Article to be written. As many operas, it's there in German. The other Tristan. I hope you keep reading, you have a link to my daily story on your talk ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:55, 14 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Hi. I'd quite like to get Piri up to WP:FA - I'm probably miles off, but that's my aim. I've just read Angeline Quinto, a featured article passed less than three months ago, and I've noticed that her article whizzes through her music career, with each album getting less than a paragraph each. I go into way more detail than that on Piri's article and all her notable singles and albums have articles, so doubly don't need them. I asked Sammi Brie, who approved her GA, and she suggested I ask someone with more experience on music FAs. I saw you contributed to Quinto's FA - should I trim Piri's article accordingly?--Launchballer22:08, 17 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Launchballer, I took a brief look, and find it promising. I'd look at image placement, - no sandwiching of text please, and to me they look pretty similar, perhaps one less might help. The lead should be a summary, and looks like a sequence of details. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:27, 18 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Images rearranged and one taken out (their placement was an artefact from when there used to be Loud LDN pictures in it); at 67% on my netbook, no images sandwich. The only remaining image aligned left depicts her pole dancing. The quote bunches very slightly, but given that they announced in the last two hours they're releasing their new single on Friday, and their new singles tend to get coverage, that should sort itself out. I've also completely rewritten the lede. I really ought to add timestamps to the online interviews at some point, preferably before nominating.--Launchballer13:19, 19 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Userbox and category
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Luckily, I found a new template format that allows for use of photos, so I took that beautiful sunset photo and orange border displayed the main page of the WikiProject and put them into the userbox, so we now have a userbox that hopefully captures the essential look and image you have created for the project.
I noticed that the new userbox also created a red-link category for WikiProject Quality Article Improvement, so I punched in "WikiProject Quality Article Improvement" and I noticed that now it automatically shows a directory of the pages that are linked to it. So, hopefully once everyone in the project gets a chance to put the new userbox on their user page, all of their names will appear in the directory in the category. Thanks! GloryRoad66 (talk) 04:01, 18 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you very much, and I am close to using it, although I was determined to only have one user box: Kafka. I'd like it better without a border, and I'd like it better with a big QAI and a small full project name. I also think that it should be only on user pages, not subpages.
Did you know that we also called the project "the cabal of the outcast"? You may have seen that its founders, PumpkinSky are Br'er Rabbit are blocked and banned. The image appeared first here, where the now banned (whose name was Alarbus then) called for unblocking the other, and the discussion that lead to it is on my user page under Reformation. (The unblock eventually happened then, by 28bytes). We won new members such as Alakzi, who said best what makes us a group (that's on the project page, and in my edit notice), and then left. I miss them and carry on. People still around from the beginning are Ched, Montanabw, Keilana and Wehwalt, but only the latter is very active. With Andy (Pigsonthewing) joining, recommended by RexxS, we won a bad reputation as infobox warriors. See Talk:Pilgrim at Tinker Creek#Infobox. Andy was almost banned in the infoboxes arbcase (which began on 17 July 2013, requested by Ched to deal with resistence to the then new {{infobox opera}}. Summary: the user box - carrying the memory of the outcast - is something members may display not with pride but in defiance ;)
Having said that: I think we can now be proud. New members often don't even recall the dark beginnings, and just do great article work, and once a month I go around and thank the active ones with flowers, - you'll see ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:34, 18 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
I didn't realize that there was such a tragic, yet fascinating, history in the early days of the project. I'm sorry to hear about some of the difficulties of some of the founders. I hope that things are better for them now. By all means, make any improvements you see fit regarding the infobox. Thank you for sharing the history of the project. Good luck! GloryRoad66 (talk) 07:45, 18 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
It sounds like championing the cause of better quality articles was a very subversive and controversial idea in the early days of Wikipedia. All of you must have been considered rebels back then! Keep up the good fight!!! GloryRoad66 (talk) 07:50, 18 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
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In July 2015 around 15.5% of the English Wikipedia's biographies were about women. As of July 2023, 19.61% of the English Wikipedia's biographies are about women. That's a lot of biographies created in the effort to close the gender gap. Happy 8th Anniversary! Join us for some virtual cake and add comments or memories and please keep on editing to close the gap!
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The other day I went through and rebuilt the DYK HoF. One of the things that stuck out in my mind was the Yoninah tribute we put together, so I added a new page to the HOF. One thing, I can only remember the Frank Sinatra set done a few years ago. Have there been others? If so, I'd love to know. --evrik(talk)15:33, 25 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Those are the ones that come to my mind, - Christmas is rather a regular thing. During 2017, there was a lot of Reformation, but I don't recall if we did a full set on 31 October. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:37, 25 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
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On 26 July 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cornel Țăranu, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Romanian musicologistCornel Țăranu completed unfinished scores by George Enescu that Enescu did not wish to publish? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cornel Țăranu. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Cornel Țăranu), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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The article Gabriele Schnaut you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Gabriele Schnaut for comments about the article, and Talk:Gabriele Schnaut/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of MyCatIsAChonk -- MyCatIsAChonk (talk) 00:01, 27 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
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On 27 July 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Ernst-Ludwig Petrowsky, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 1973 Luten Petrowsky(pictured) played the saxophone in a quartet that made the first record with jazz musicians from both East and West Germany? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ernst-Ludwig Petrowsky. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Ernst-Ludwig Petrowsky).
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Gerda, as page mover could you please move the disambiguation page ADQ, so I can create a page for the Abu Dabi company ADQ ? I dont want to start it under a different name because that is its name. Wuerzele (talk) 22:31, 28 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you, Michael! - Graham87 is. I looked and saw only few links. They should be changed to the disambiguation before the move, unless they mean the company. I have company so no time to do that. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:47, 29 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
I think making ADQ anything other than a disambiguation page would require a requested move because I'm not sure the company is the primary topic. What about titling the company article "ADQ (company)"? Much easier all round. Graham8707:29, 29 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
August 2023 Good Article Nominations backlog drive
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I wish we had images of her singing throughout the years in the article. I wish Wikipedia foundation could do more about this problem, perhaps by making agreements with Getty or other orgs to license some photos for free use on Wikipedia. I don’t know what the solution is, but there is a surprising lack of relevant images in our articles and I find it upsetting. Viriditas (talk) 08:44, 30 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
For some reason I just thought - seeing Babylon (opera) on my watchlist - that it would be nice to have her pic as Euphrat (yes, the river) that was in most obits also in our article. She sang in Jahrhundertring, DYK? Not in the performance I saw though.
Did you know that the image of Gwyneth Jones - unable to believe what she has to see - was actually on Wikipedia's Main page? It was discussed here ;) - Can anybody tell me why Patrice Chéreau can have an infobox but not Pierre Boulez? (I tried in 2016 and left the topic.) - Götterdämmerung in Bayreuth tomorrow, broadcast. - The hymn is in honour of my parents, sung at all weddings and baptism in the family. - --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:36, 30 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
You're looking for a reason, but there isn't one. I just read through the archived discussion from 2016 because you made me curious. It's just ridiculous. A lot of people think being stubborn and non-accommodating is a part of their identity. I will never understand it, but that's the issue. Anyway, it's moot, as the problem was solved by User:Maddy from Celeste with the creation of disinfobox.js in April.[6] See also: Help:Infobox/user style. I'm convinced people intentionally put roadblocks in front of solutions for no good reason. There's something deeply broken with humanity, but we all have to come to that realization on our own. Viriditas (talk) 10:12, 30 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
I hope you appreciate how much your sense of humor livens up this dull place. I’ve found that German and Russian native speakers have a greater command of English than most native English speakers. As an atheist, I am tempted to say "dear Jesus" in response to your question. Viriditas (talk) 09:07, 31 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for your message.
The centenary Ring was a very influential production. I can remember that it was broadcast by the BBC one act at a time. Musically it was rather uneven. When I went to my first Ring that same year at Covernt Garden (a production by Götz Friedrich with Colin Davis conducting,) I can remember trying to avoid Gwyneth Jones (soprano) and finding Berit Lindholm's voice just as flawed. Jean Cox was Siegfried and I think Donald McIntyre may have been Wotan and Zoltan Kelemen Alberich.
Thank you, - I just saw Götterdämmerung then, so the scene pictured from another angle, and her stage presence was stronger than her voice ;) - in 2023, they had two singers for Brünnhilde, but withour seeing them, I wasn't tempted to write articles (which they also have already) - Wagner demanded the impossible I think. - Today's story: the orchestra playing in Der Ring in Minden, where I saw the piece last, and Dara Hobbs was up to it, and my brother and his colleague played the first note of Rheingold. I wrote many articles of singers of that production. Parsifal to come as annouced. - Today, the caption is richer than the story, and mind the date. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:08, 2 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Dear Gerda,
When I first returned to Wikipedia in January & February this year, you were quite positive in receiving my DYKs and my work on churches in China. At the time, I was not even aware of your contribution to this community, and I was quite puzzled when I saw that you gave me a "Precious" award. Now that I have been contributing to Wikipedia for a while, I joined WiR, and I check AfD and Teahouse regularly, and I began to appreciate you as an kind, generous, and inspiring Wikipedian.
I thought about giving you a barnstar, but I think you have received too many in your Wikipedia career, so I am writing you this little appreciation note instead. You are the best!
Thank you, and I love those hand-made barnstars, - nicely personal! - I am more than busy right now with subjects who recently died (Martin Walser), and am no organ expert, more a singer. Go ahead, do it! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:21, 30 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
New Apostolic Church search
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Hi, GA! I noticed you had attended a New Apostolic Church ecumenical service back in May. It may be something of a stretch, but I was hoping this somehow meant you had some sources on them, be they in English or another language. I came into possession of one of their liturgical books (a very exciting thing for me, as it's rare to find those in the wild) and was considering writing on their liturgies as a whole for an article. If you have anything, please let me know. If not, no trouble. Happy editing! ~ Pbritti (talk) 06:51, 31 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for asking, but no, I was there as a stranger in both region and denomination, part of a family gathering. It was inspiring! We didn't sing from their hymnal but a leaflet made for the occasion, - my sister and I right next to the brass ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:56, 31 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
Oh well! That must have been a fascinating experience, though, and I'm glad you got to enjoy it (particularly with family). If I learn anything or see anything that might pique your interest when I go on a fact-finding mission to one of their congregations near me, I'll be sure to ping you! ~ Pbritti (talk) 07:00, 31 July 2023 (UTC)Reply
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The article Graham Clark (tenor) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Graham Clark (tenor) for comments about the article, and Talk:Graham Clark (tenor)/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Golden -- Golden (talk) 09:22, 12 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Glauben können wie du
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Look, and that's exactly why the song is so great, - biblical lines that she spoke, as a model - no glorification, no precious gowns and jewels, just a woman living faith - hope - love. I wish I could get that tag away. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:55, 12 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
DYK for Michael McCown
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Dear Gerda, I wanted to open here a communication channel for discussions between us that are not strictly part of the Rachel Yakar GA review and should therefore not clutter up the review page, which will be kept permanently with the article, whereas here you can simply delete the disussion when it has served its purpose.
I wanted to talk to you about using Sfn. I am, just like you, a big fan of Sfn or "shortened footnotes" as they are called (see {{Use shortened footnotes}}). I find it very useful to have a list of sources. I use Sfn since several years and in many cases I have asked the major contributors of an article to allow me to change the citation style from whatever it was to using Sfn (see e.g. Talk:Lady Joan Fitzgerald).
I recently also became a fan of "List-defined references" (see {{Use list-defined references}}), which results in a much more readable code. I disagree with people who say it does not matter how the code looks, I often work on the code. Recently, I learned how to combine "Shorted footnotes" with "List-defined footnotes" and that is what I use now (see Antoine Hamilton. For Rachel Yakar, in this "combined style", the entry for the first page of the GSL in the References section would become:
and you would cite it in the text as <ref name=Kutsch1156 /> or as {{R|Kutsch1156}}. I feel that it would be a pity in Rachel to lose the definition in the list and bring them back into the text. Best regards, Johannes Schade (talk) 18:51, 13 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
(talk page stalker) I see no great advantage in wrapping a repeated citation of a source's same page in <ref name=xxx>{{harvnb| … }}</ref> because those repeated identical page numbers cited via {{sfn}} will be grouped together automatically. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 00:40, 14 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
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I just ran across an article that may interest you. It's an American artist named William Robinson Leigh. He was born a year after the American Civil War ended, and was raised in the South as it recovered from the war by a religious (it didn't take), conservative family, and studied for years at the Academy of Fine Arts, Munich. Interestingly, it was his experience in the natural region of the Tyrol that would eventually attract him to landscape painting and the American West, which he became famous for when he returned to the US. Strangely, he was one of the first artists to depict aliens on another planet (Mars) as an illustrator for an essay by H. G. Wells. Although the work is not appreciated or recognized by art historians, it is visionary in the sense that he tried to imagine an alien world...in 1908, quite a feat for its time. Viriditas (talk) 12:30, 21 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
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The article Berit Lindholm you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Berit Lindholm for comments about the article, and Talk:Berit Lindholm/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of MyCatIsAChonk -- MyCatIsAChonk (talk) 14:42, 26 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Hi! I have been appreciating your tireless work on here for many many many years now, I expect you might remember me, I think I remember interacting with you some time ago about Reger!
The one question I have though, is how it could be possible that you are 14 years old, when you have gotten wikipedia accolades 12 years ago, because that would've made you 2 years old when you got them...?!
Don't say "too", because the others didn't say that. I think |name is clear enough=. I see, though, that while it was clearly a joke 10 years ago when I installed an infobox there, as way of accessibility, and it said "4", 14 might be misleading. 10 years ago, I had a DYK about a composition by Verdi, with an {{infobox musical composition}}, - that box was new at the time, and caused so much opposition that a friend called arbitration. Remember? It did not help to clarify the misunderstandings, but the infobox for compositions is by now widely accepted. {{infobox person}}, even for classical composers, has been accepted almost every time you ask the community, since Beethoven in 2015. I wish we could by now all agree that there is no reason for battle when a little box tells readers at a glance when and where a person lived and died, and why we have an article. But compare Cosima Wagner and her husband. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:12, 3 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
No, you're precious!
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I was given the precious award the day my first featured article was on the front page. I was so stressed out about making sure it stayed safe that when you gave me the recognition I never explicitly said thank you. So, thank you! It meant a lot to me. Panini!•🥪20:22, 28 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
DYK for Berit Lindholm
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On 30 August 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Berit Lindholm, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that dramatic sopranoBerit Lindholm(pictured) was said to have been called "that damn primary school teacher" by the director of the Royal Swedish Opera, and used it in the title of her memoir? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Berit Lindholm. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Berit Lindholm), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
I received praise for the article, "I like that it not only explores who she was as an artist", and you deserve credit for that part of it, requesting it in the GA review. I like the top image, and the top line of the hook, but am sad and silent about the rest of the hook which misses completely who she was as an artist: I think that she was both, and wanted it to show, in thankful memory, - let's cherish that. - In contrast, I am proud of the hook I remember today ("equal partners"), prouder that it was part of the all-Beethoven set on his centenary, and still prouder that I had three hooks in that set. Let's cherish that also ;) - I'll hear it tonight, with Sol Gabetta! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:23, 30 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
The DYK credit says - as all of them but I strike it - "if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it". Here, I saw many interesting facts, and requested Storye book to be the bridge between me and DYK. I said which of two suggestions I liked, and if simply approved, I could have proudly presented something like this
in my stories yesterday, presenting path of career, repertoire, connected famous conductor (also hinting at the time), and the drama, while carefully avoiding a title in German, a role name, too much detail. But not with DYK as it currently runs. After discussions in the nomination, on the DYK talk, in the nomination again, and with the promoting admin, I spent a silent day yesterday, feeling helpless and ashamed that we had nothing better to say about one of few sopranos (ever) in demand worldwide as Brünnhilde, - nothing about her voice, nor achievements. It left me sad, disillusioned and silent. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:15, 31 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Cherished
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For a tireless contributor and our great ambassador of goodwill.
For vast contributions to this encyclopedia's body of work regarding classical music, opera, and the arts of song and melody generally, for staggering numbers of magnificent images illustrating the diversity of flora, the grandeur of numerous places of worship, and many other subjects besides, and above all for devoting countless hours to the effort to make so many other members of this community feel valued for their unique contributions, and for generally making the project a warmer, kinder, more inclusive, and more familial place for an encyclopedist to spend their time, it is my great honour to present to you this token of appreciation; I deign to believe I can speak for the community in saying it is the smallest portion of the recognition you deserve. You are a truly remarkable Wikipedian.
--SnowRise let's rap04:10, 31 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Round done, but going out on a nice day. On 28 August was an anniversary related to not feeling "cherished", and yesterday was a silent day of mourning that my efforts failed to present a woman, on her funeral day, with her achievements which were many, and not just say in a DYK hook what a man said about her. Your timing was just great! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:17, 31 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Enjoy the sun, meine Freundin! I wouldn't sweat the DYK hook: I don't know about the particulars in this case and I don't want to offend the DYK regulars, but sometimes I just don't know about the priorities and what ultimately gets promoted to the main page. But none of that detracts from the quality you have presently brought the article itself too, and it's that kind of quality mainspace editing that in part inspired me to take a moment to recognize your efforts, if that helps at all. You've done much more for her legacy (as with many other similar women, and others) in that fashion anyway.
Thank you, and I enjoyed biking and landscape! Two more things touched me in your gift: the recognition of goodwill as a key attitude - compare that the sentence "grant each other the presumption that we are acting in good faith" appears like a header to Precious, and its title and exuberance reminded me of this cherished cherry. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:37, 31 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
DYK for Le Vin herbé
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The concert was a high light of the 2023 festival: intensity and harmony of conductor (sitting - at age 96 - without baton, instead expressive precise gestures), the orchestra (that had already played the world premiere of the symphony) and the grandiose composition. You can watch a bit in this short review (on public television) of a great festival season, the second half of the three minutes devoted exclusively to the final concert. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:49, 3 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Hello. Just wanted to thank you for improving the article (while I am typing this, I received your thanks :) If encyclopedias and lexicons which are referenced are a problem, as I added all of them, I have them at my place so if it is necessary, I can take photos of articles on Stojanović and send them "for inspection" :) Thanks again and take care PajaBG (talk) 15:48, 6 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
My source was the Who is Who is Serbia 1996, which was compiled from the questionnaires filled by the selected persons themselves: "lead singer (prvakinja) of the National Theater's Opera; guest at Metroplitan Opera in New York (permanent member), Vienna Opera, Bolshoi Theater (permanent guest)". Some news outlets, and including the lengthy obituary by National Theater [7], say that "for a few years she was member of Bolshoi...", but she clearly made a distinction. Yugoslav Musical Encyclopedia simply says she sang at Bolshoi. There are also these [8][9]. I searched for Russian news on her death, they say she was a "guest soloist in Moscow..." [10] Now, there is a monograph on Stojanović by Rаško V. Jovanović, published in 2012. On pages 156-188 it lists "all roles of Milka Stojanović" and I've tried unsuccessfully to get it today. [11][12]PajaBG (talk) 14:37, 7 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
Fine, - up to you to add more, and if "permanent guest" at the Bolshoi is supported sufficiently, bring it back in the lead. Today is the day, while she is exposed on the Mai page. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:50, 7 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
Invitation to Cornell study on Wikipedia discussions
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Jonathan, I considered but my many talk page contribs are rather praise and flowers, which seems not too helpful for your study, unless you want to take in that praise and flowers fight derailing, quite generally. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:28, 7 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Hi friend! Thank you for the 'thanks' on my recent edits, much appreciated! Though I thought I should probably share what I'm mainly working on at the moment, because it seems like it is perhaps not on your radar (it has so many errors, omissions etc. etc. so thats why I know you probably arent aware of it! plus I also dont see any of your edits). It's the article List of compositions by Felix Mendelssohn and... yeah... its been a bit of a struggle! I was working on it too several years ago (at school haha!) and its just SUCH a huge job. This is mainly because everything seems to be there in the 'list by opus number', but there were/are? missing works in the 'list by genre'. List of works by genre is how I personally prefer to discover the ouvre of a composer, and I think its an excellent way for people to do so, as they can pick their favourite genres, so that is why I've been working on that so heavily and trying to make is clearer. Anyway, I'm sure you'll be able to see there are still some things I've not gotten round to; the composition dates of many of the lieder/songs, including the MWV number on every work etc. Though to be honest, in the long-term (I don't have the sort of time commitment to do it right now!) a completely new article, or that one started again from scratch, in the style of the List of compositions by Johann Sebastian Bach article but using the MWV catalogue would be absolutely exceptional. It's a really great catalogue, im sure you've encountered it before :) catalogue
Thank you, and all the best for your endeavour. Bach is of course one of a kind, and Francis Schonken did a remarkable job. What made that easy is that the numbers already go by genre. My kind of these lists is Reger works: sortable, so those who want by op. no. can have it, and those who go be genre the same, and changes can be made at one place, not two. I don't know if it is feasible to do that for Mendelssohn as well. (others of the kind are for Carl Nielsen and Jean Sibelius.) I am quite busy with my projects, so could not offer substantial help. I only added a few links to his works list ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 7 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the response!
Yes, I've used the Reger works list before and its a great one. I just wish there was enough interest to do a similar sortable table for Mendelssohn using the new MWV catalogue. The MWV catalogue is very similar to the Haydn 'Hob' catalogue, but instead of roman numeral : number, its letter : number, thats the only difference. The letters each correspond to a genre. But yes, you're right, that it probably isn't too feasable with the little interest in his works right now, which to me is dissapointing.
I hope that I've improved the current article though. I know that all his works aren't listed there, but I'd say all his main and most important ones are, and I hope I've improved the navigation and ease of use. FlyingScotsman72 (talk) 07:02, 8 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Hello, how are you? I recently re-expanded all articles related to singer Madonna's first album with more relevant, previously missing information. I'd like to take "Borderline", my favorite song from said albun, to FA status. It would be my first FAC, so I'm looking for a mentor who can assist me :) If you're interested, please let me know Thanks in advance! Christian (talk) 15:08, 8 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
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I'm travelling on a train with an IP address that is suspecious-looking, so I can edit only this page. I meant to send greetings today, with my story about Walter Arlen, the great performance of Parsifal I experienced yesterday (see #Music), a celebration of having survived WP:ARBINFOBOX of 10 years, which was the most kafkaesque thing I experienced on Wikipedia, and now things look so much better, just look at Arlen and Mozart. I hope you watch my page and get the messages. I can upload images, - please watch that also. At home, I will have company, and a rehearsal tonight, so may not be able to send messages or repond to pings. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:01, 11 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
UndercoverClassicist, regarding the GA for Robert Hale: on a train with an IP mistrustd by Wikipedia, I can only edit this page (and after arrival will have other things to do), quite generally: Thank you for detailed replies! I believe the charm of Wikipedia is that we can keep things short for people who know, and offer links for those who don't. Example: my story today is Jessye Norman, because of her birthday. We just say that she portrayed Cassandre in Les Troyens by Berlioz, without explaining what kind of character the role is, how important the opera, how important the role within it, how important the composer, - although all highly important ;) - Some readers will know all this and would be bored by an extra paragraph. (And that's just one opera mentioned.) Therefore I believe we should not add "regarded as one of the world's most prestigious operatic competitions" to all (c. 200) places where Metropolitan Opera National Council Auditions is linked. If it helps you I could add "competition" after the name, but it's a pompous term already, and clearly not a simple audition, just by that name. Salome, towards the end: I'd rather take no example than condense the plot, which has nothing to do with him. Even readers only vaguely familiar with opera may know that many are tragedies, and which specific relationship and killing in just one example of several possible is of no help to understanding a funny line from his first wife. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:29, 15 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
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You have recently made edits related to discussions about infoboxes and to edits adding, deleting, collapsing, or removing verifiable information from infoboxes. This is a standard message to inform you that discussions about infoboxes and to edits adding, deleting, collapsing, or removing verifiable information from infoboxes is a designated contentious topic. This message does not imply that there are any issues with your editing. For more information about the contentious topics system, please see Wikipedia:Contentious topics. - SchroCat (talk) 15:34, 26 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
This templating of a regular editor is unnecessarily callous and uncalled for. Especially since this editor is on the opposite side of a dispute with the editor and heavily involved. She won't say it so I will. --ARoseWolf16:09, 26 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
Per my edit summary which every user posting gets to see, and some should reflect more: "go on with life, have a laugh, don't get too upset". I discuss infoboxes as I discuss tables. They seem to have been contentious at some time, but by now, many users are no longer aware of that. Look at all RfCs in the matter in 2023: the community supports them. - SchroCat: how about accepting that? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:52, 26 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
I say what I see. I asked the arb candidates if they see the same: ACE2022, or: Do you believe that we still have infobox wars? If yes, do you have better ideas than the 2013 arb ruling to end them? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:27, 27 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
A year ago today - when the Mozart discussion was already past which installed an infobox per the number of votes for it and especially the quality of arguments - I talked to Folly Mox about the matter. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:18, 28 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
As I did with recent singers: use chapter for what was title, chapter-url for what was url, and title for what was work. I think if they change things, they should run a bot instead of expecting us to change thousands of articles. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:34, 30 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
Re Städtische Bühnen Frankfurt: The title of Brauneck (2016) is Die Welt als Bühne: Geschichte des europäischen Theaters, not Politik und Theater in Frankfurt, Stuttgart und Bochum. Fischer-Lichte (2017) is indeed titled Tragedy's Endurance: Performances of Greek Tragedies and Cultural Identity in Germany since 1800, so what is "Die Welt als Bühne: Geschichte des europäischen Theaters"? It doesn't seem to be a chapter; is it the series name? Any example for Großes Sängerlexikon? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 14:43, 30 September 2023 (UTC)Reply
October began with Erntedankfest, and today is our national holiday, and the final day of the 30th Kronberg Festival, at the Casals Forum for the second time. Enjoy. We also start a new arbitration election, and I debate this year's question with myself. Help for ACE 2023 welcome. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:16, 3 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Hi Gerda -- Glad to see you are continuing to be so active! I've been intermittently trying to salvage articles on notable topics from the unsourced heap before someone successively proposes deleting them all, and came across the interesting German composer Johannes Driessler. Would you be able to translate the description "religiös-symbolistischer, klangasketischer" which I've quoted in the article (full phrase "...und mit seinem Oratorium „Dein Reich komme" ein Beispiel religiös-symbolistischer, klangasketischer Musik gab.")? ETA If the de article has sources for any of the things I've tagged as unsourced that would be very helpful -- it was obviously originally written from the German article and probably is based on a German encyclopedia or obituary. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 22:50, 9 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
Just waking up: thank you for a good question and good answers while I slept. I think "featuring" may be too weak, - it seems to be the key, not just one feature. We miss "klang" (sound), but I would not know how to express that the music is ascetic in sound, or would that be implied - what else? Ascetic could also mean simple forms, or melodies, no? I even wonder if we should really quote such an overly rich wording. No idea why "example", for example. - I'll get to reading the article later, - first comes morning round, then bring another who recently died, Reiner Goldberg, up to Main page appearance. Help welcome there as well. Thank you, Michael, for having sourced the mezzo's recordings. Same thing open for the tenor, hint hint ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:45, 10 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks, Gerda. I'm trying with the quotation to provide more information on whether his music's tonal or atonal -- Grove says tonal but all the reviews I've found suggest at least a bit atonal -- but I'm ignorant enough with such music in English, let alone a language I only have at pidgin level! Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 05:58, 10 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
Having glimpsed: "example of religiously symbolic ascetic music" seems best to me (if we need to quote) because the "religiously" describes the symbolism, - it's not religious music, but symbolic music. Or not? Always learning. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:54, 10 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
I know that it's unidiomatic German to start with, and I seriously suggest to not even try to translate it but say it in English. "Dein Reich komme" is from the Lord's Prayer, "your kingdom come" (or whatever translation to use), - that might give more of a clue to the character of the piece than the symbolistic evaluation of this writer ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:22, 10 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
I looked at the article, and it's now free from cn tags. There's more detail in a dissertation I found (unsure thoug how to cite it, - the doi url takes you to the link to the pfd of which you want to take page numbers), and in the Saarland Biographie about him which actually supported all biographical cn tags. Further discussion on the article talk please. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:24, 12 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Dear Gerda, congratulations. I finally passed it. Somehow, I did not get emails reporting your last changes, so it took me a long time to realise you had done everything. Sorry for all the delays. Best regrads, Johannes Johannes Schade (talk) 08:54, 11 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for the great effort you put into the review, even searching for sources! The article is much better thanks to your diligence. - Best wishes for your health! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:04, 11 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
The article Rachel Yakar you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Rachel Yakar for comments about the article, and Talk:Rachel Yakar/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has never appeared on the Main Page as a "Did you know" item, and has not appeared within the last year either as "Today's featured article", or as a bold link under "In the news" or in the "On this day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear at DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On this day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Johannes Schade -- Johannes Schade (talk) 09:02, 11 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Hi! Thank you very much. I wish to thank you, too, for extremely insightful and helpful suggestions how to improve this article ([13]). Best wishes. Laked98 (talk) 10:44, 11 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hevenu shalom aleichem until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.
I leave it to the arbs to see that these "remedies" were good for nothing ;) - I had nothing to do with that case, nor ever had any problem with civility ;) - Thank goodness, in recent discussions - see Mozart - nobody had a problem with civility. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:21, 13 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
And then you'd think the matter is settled, because if it's good for Mozart why not for others? - Little overview: 10 years. - Check out Cosima Wagner for why this doesn't end (where I asked if we'd need an RfC long ago). We had one for her husband, for some more irony. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:50, 13 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
ToBeFree, please don't feel guilty! The topic was on my mind when I called this a year of resiliance, because I'd really like to be free of the assumptions that I am an "infobox warrior", whatever that may mean. I think I never did anything but voice the view of the community. In 2013, that got me restricted, with a restriction - of "two comments max in a discussion" - that I invented myself, and even came to feel is a blessing, and how great if it was simply common sense for all participants ;) - All my restrictions were rescinded in 2015, so some comments in discussions such as Cosima Wagner just make me sad, and sadder because they come from people I respect. (compare Messiah (Handel) and The Company of Heaven). Perhaps you could talk there, about misunderstandings? It's almost 10 years that the great Brian Boulton came to this talk page with an idea for compromise, and it would be so nice if we'd follow. Today is the birthday of a dear friend; she conducted a choir I sang with, first Bach's Magnificat, later Bernstein's Chichester Psalms, - Psalm 133. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:00, 14 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
:) Ah, I wasn't aware of the entire history surrounding the topic of infoboxes. I'll avoid joining these discussions, especially if they have already come to a standstill and received no substantial additions for months. Hm hm. Oh, regarding Hevenu shalom aleichem mentioned above, my favorite is Shalom chaverim. I don't know if that's notable, though. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 12:15, 14 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
Draft:Shalom chaverim… I guess if someone moved that to mainspace as-is and insisted in having a deletion discussion instead of draftification, it would become an article. I lack sources describing the song in detail, though, and I don't dare to take a "I'm sure it's notable, so article quality doesn't matter" approach. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:05, 14 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
I looked, fine start of one line with four sources. Everybody welcome to expand. I'll put it on my list when I'm done with the psalms, - 3 weeks I think. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:20, 20 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
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On 14 October 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Robert Hale (bass-baritone), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that when Robert Hale performed as Wagner's Wotan in Washington, a reviewer noted that he commanded "the spirit, from tragic grandeur to ironic detachment, from flooding tenderness to grim rage"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Robert Hale (bass-baritone). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Robert Hale (bass-baritone)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Hello Gerda,
I want to recommend Magnus Manske's tool https://wikishootme.toolforge.org/. It's a map with colored dots, that indicate nice locations in your vicinity present in Wikidata, Wikimedia Commons and Wikipedia. Green dots: Wikidata has a picture; Red dots: Wikidata needs a picture. Just enter your residence. Have fun. Grimes2 (talk) 05:11, 15 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
That's great! In Ehrenbach, there's Backes (now under restoration, scaffolded) and Türmchen (probably no secret telling from my views that it's next door), and I took a new one of the latter, more the angle of the former lead image. I'll post here when I upload, but I try to do them chronologically, and am 2 weeks behind ... --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:31, 16 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
Gerda, eine Bitte: Kannst Du die GPS Koordinaten bei deiner Kamera/Handy einschalten. Dann wird der Standort der Bilder bei Wiki Commons automatisch mit hochgeladen (Camera location). Grimes2 (talk) 13:53, 24 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for a start. Too long, too aggressive, too much bold. The attention span of readers won't take it all in, with the danger that something essential is missing. Did you see the discussion a bit higher up? And those in the archives of WP:COMPOSERS? - I think one point to focus on is that it's not in the spirit of Wikipedia to tell editors that they have to seek consensus before making an edit, - the standard is being bold and discuss only when reverted. The second that the 2010 consensus may have changed. The third that Mozart and other discussions have shown that the 2023 community wants an infobox. - I'm tired now, and busy tomorrow, and recommend to wait anyway until the first discussion has ended. I understand from it that discussions are open for Feydeau and another whom I don't know, - better to wait until they close as well. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:08, 18 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
Much better. It still needs to be more neutral (begin with #2, perhaps skip #1 or rephrase), and it has to refer to the old RfC. I guess 70% of present-day editors have no idea that there ever was a conflict, let alone the history of it. I'll try a different approach, based on the threads further up here, in the other discussion, - feel free to join. I'm still in my morning round though, - it may take some more time until I've worded my overnight thoughts. We want peace, not less ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:42, 19 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
The discussion was closed. - I'd do it extremely simple, and extremely neutral. The 2010 consensus was this. Did things change? Point at Vivaldi as the starting point. The topic has been regarded as battleground, and all battlecries should be avoided, on top of the standard that whoever begins an RfC should put as little as posssible of personal evaluation into it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:01, 19 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
The hidden message we agree is problematic reads: "Before adding an infobox, please consult Wikipedia:WikiProject Composers#Biographical infoboxes and seek consensus on this article's talk page." That will have to be quoted to begin with. I found it for Debussy, but it's probably in many composers' articles, causing edit-warring for Vivaldi. You follow the link, and there it is (in the end). The whole wording of the guideline is a problem, and needs discussion. My time is to short for any of it, - I just take it as a recommendation, and don't follow. Look at my #Music higher up, - I added 7 composers yesterday, and all have an infobox. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:56, 19 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
With all respect, how was that even possible to pull off? Is there something I’m missing? Two editors managed to swiftly and uncontroversially change a guideline on a violently contentious subject in a topic area that’s about 50-75 percent controlled by editors who dogmatically oppose infoboxes in that area? Dronebogus (talk) 14:08, 25 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
See, that's exactly what's wrong about the perception of the whole topic ;) - The controversies of years before were overcome by then, check the archives. But beware, it's a lot of reading.
2007 Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera/Archive 32 - this was two years before I even joined, and it took until 2012 until I noticed the conflict, because where I worked, there were no infoboxes
- just for starters. It does take some patience. Another story about patience: In 2013, for Wagner's centenary, I created an infobox for him on his talk page to remain on that talk page. Even that was regarded as sort of a sacrilege, see the arbcase. I had a bet open that Wagner would have an infobox by 2020. 2020 came, and I didn't care anymore. In 2023, he got an infobox. They will come without me. - Now, seriously, without RfC ado, you could tell Project Classical music, with a notification from Project Composers, that Project Opera abandoned the clause long ago, and it would be nice if these sister projects handled it the same way. One can always try ;) - The number of those dogmatically opposing infoboxes is small, and they are not heavily involved in Classical music. Tim riley, who is involved, is not dogmatic, - see Falstaff and Otto Klemperer. It's not only black and white. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 25 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
The fact that TR seems to base whether an article gets an infobox on personal whims is worse than simply opposing them on principle. The other editors I’m thinking of aren’t necessarily opposed to boxes in theory and may even use them but in practice they’ll stonewall any discussion of them if they don’t personally approve. Dronebogus (talk) 15:14, 25 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
DYK for Maria, dich lieben ist allzeit mein Sinn
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In 2023, a sculpture garden in Praunheim displayed abstract works by Hans Steinbrenner from different periods of his life, and corresponding works by his friends and students.
I love it. I can almost feel the texture. My heart yearns for peace and the end of all war. The day when mankind no longer looks at our differences but what unites us in common goal. Should we value, appreciate and celebrate our individual uniqueness? Yes, ten thousand times yes! But at the same time we should see our shared human Song is what connects us all. And that must become valuable in us again. We must be enlightened to the point where the preservation of it, no, the elevation of that principle is foremost in our minds. It can't happen with half of mankind and not the other because those whose thoughts and principles are different will choke out the other. All mankind must unite in that common goal. I don't know if that will ever be achievable but it is noble and worthy to seek it. Thank you for sharing, Gerda. --ARoseWolf12:53, 20 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
I keep going out, and hope for the end of wars., yes, oh, yes, Gerda. My heart yearns for peace and the end of all war., yes, oh, yes, ARoseWolf. To both: your way with words touches me. We may be far apart geographically, but here, we are close enough to chat over a cup of masala chai. (I just returned from India) I have set out cups for all 3 of us. And Gerda, thank you; I am grateful that one of the links you shared on my talkpage brought me here, and with it, some calmness, even if only momentary. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:05, 28 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
Brian Boulton and the ways to compromise
Percy Grainger, who left Australia at the age of 13 to attend Hoch's Conservatorium, played a prominent role in the revival of interest in British folk music in the course of a long and innovative career.
While our means to achieve peace in the world (look above) may be limited, what can we do to achieve peace at least in our community here? You may have heard (or not if you came later) that there are the infobox wars, with a related arb case in 2013. My guiding light towards peace, or at least compromise, is Brian Boulton.
Ten years ago, on 29 October 2013, soon after the case closed, he offered a compromise infobox for his featured article Percy Grainger, a classical composer, announced on this talk page.
Just setting the chronology straight so there will not be claims of canvassing. I found the debate on the Israel deletion page, read up on it, reacted to the AfD, and reached the conclusion that a barnstar for you is fully deserved! Best, gidonb (talk) 18:43, 20 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
I'd like to share it with El C. - Gidon, do you read Hebrew? Because if yes, you might take over a job El C did: adding the Hebrew text to the Psalms articles. 23 of the 150 are missing it, Psalm 61 being the first of those, Psalm 60 could serve as a model. I could mechanically copy the lines from the souce but would feel awkward not being able to check if it's correct. Any talk page watcher welcome, of course. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:50, 20 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
Meantime I handed out barnstars also to El C and meter4 for their contributions to the article. I will try to look into the psalms later. gidonb (talk) 14:21, 21 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
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sorry, but that makes the following comment ridiculous - striking and providing it where requested seems more logical to me
My apologies. Your revert and edit summary made me laugh. I am not trying to make you look ridiculous. I was only trying to make the QPQ obvious to a reviewer. I hope you have a wonderful day. Viriditas (talk) 22:19, 20 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
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On 28 October 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Isabelle Cals, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Isabelle Cals, who turned to singing after a degree in Chinese, appeared as Wagner's Kundry in a production of Parsifal at the Stadttheater Minden? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Isabelle Cals. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Isabelle Cals), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Let's see. I have no idea of the subject. I see that you made two edits, one looks like two things, adding new content to the lead, which is always a bad idea (it should go to the body, the lead should be a summary), and removing the page number of an existing reference, not a good idea. The other edit seems to add two cities without a source (while the source provided has one, and you made it look as if the source referenced your two as well), bad idea, and both known enough not to need a link, not a god idea, and removed a duplication. I suggest you make one edit removing the duplication, and discuss the rest on the article talk if you want to pursue the points. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:26, 28 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
I’m afraid I don’t think I’ve had the pleasure. I’ve found the topic area of classical music to be one of the least pleasant on Wikipedia. Lots of gatekeeping, condescending behavior and incivility. How do you stay sane, let alone enjoy editing there so much? Dronebogus (talk) 21:42, 31 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
I looked myself and found this great advice by Michael (3 Sep 2009): "Ratschlag: durchatmen, bis 20 zählen, runterschlucken — da kommt man nicht gegen an." which translates to "Advice: deep breath, count to 20, swallow it, you can't fight it." This was about tendencies in the German Wikipedia, but works more generally. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:02, 31 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
I unwatched Feydeau after the Kampfpanzer remark, so missed there's a RfC. Perhaps use Brian Boulton's statement from the 2013 essay, his is a name some opposers will respect, Dronebogus. And in that case, it could be helped. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:10, 31 October 2023 (UTC)Reply
I woke up thinking that I'll do it myself. But for your background reading pleasure, you can check out my user page (and its archives) and this page for the words essay and Brian. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:13, 1 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
I found Boulton’s essay, and I have to say I don’t at all see how it would convince anyone who doesn’t particularly like infoboxes otherwise, since the core point is basically “infoboxes are cruft magnets and need aggressive regulation”, which is THE go-to argument of the oppose crowd (which takes it to the logical conclusion). With all due respect to the author (RIP), that essay is as much a relic of another time as the anti-infobox crusades themselves. Dronebogus (talk) 01:12, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
I see no crowd of opposers, just a few. I see that the essay offers no support for an article without infobox, which was revolutionary at the time - one week before the infoboxes arbcase was accepted. - If you have more time for reading, try the discussion for The Rite of Spring (FA by Brian), which has the opposition arguments in a nutshell, example "Please let's not add another eyesore to another beautifully crafted article." Needless to say, it was added eventually (by a Ballet person, not Classical music), and Brian accepted it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:48, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
I disagree that there’s no crowd of opposers. If you believe the extremely long discussion here Wikipedia has become Sodom and Gomorrah all because of an improper infobox RfC… or something. I wish I had your rose-tinted view of Wikipedia politics but you know full well these people will call you a Nazi (remember “kampfpanzer”? I just got compared to the SS) and then complain very loudly about incivility from you. Dronebogus (talk) 21:04, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
I don't need a reminder of things that hurt, and don't like to supply the pleasure to admit that it hurts. Ich steh hier und singe, - the most useful advice I received was ignore ignore ignore. - We have real wars in the world, - what are the quarrels here in comparison? I met a friend yesterday whose grandson in Israel was just drafted, and after a few weeks of courses may be sent to serve. Hevenu shalom aleichem. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:17, 4 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you! - Yesterday I looked into old stuff and found this interesting conversation, and if you click into the praised edit (in the box), you may even find material for getting rid of the project limitation of free editing (Nature of WikiProjects, Ownership), - and all this in the infoboxes arbcase, only the arbs didn't read it, or didn't understand it, or didn't want to hear it.
Sometimes DYK has its moments. When I created this, because we sang it at a wedding in Germany, I had no idea it would become a world-wide desire. - Thanks especially to those who helped the article from being deleted by expanding it magnificently, especially 4meter4 and Michael Bednarek. - I declare my DYK strike ended but will still focus on the recent deaths. Today's birthdays: Patrice Chéreau and Graham Waterhouse, both reflected in DYK on my user page. - The calendar image is from New York State where last years travel went. - At the gate to travel home from Madrid, more - musings and pictures - later. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:27, 2 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
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On 7 November 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Myrthen, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Eric Sams remarked "what bride ever had a finer wedding gift?" of the song collection Myrthen (Myrtles), which Robert Schumann dedicated to Clara? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Myrthen. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Myrthen).
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You may be able to help. He died on November 5, as you probably know, and I would like you to have a look at publications (editions), item number 4 in parenthesis. I suspect that the second set of years should be 1979 to 1983, but you are likely more familiar than I am. Editrite! (talk) 01:53, 8 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
I see that before my contribution and after your revert for Johann Anton Mylius, there is a link marked as "scores" to a page of IMSPL. Do you know what this is? I can't find anything about "scores" on the Template:Interlanguage link documentation. Should Cewbot be modified so that this does not pop up as error? (BTW: I'm sorry about my wrong edit summary in that case, I've mixed it up with my other contribution where a "de" was in the interlanguage link.)
With your revert at Sei Lob und Preis mit Ehren I am not entirely happy. In case of all other entries in this list, e.g. Gottlob! nun geht das Jahr zu Ende directly above, the title in italics is not linked, but the BWV number is the link, in that case BWV 28/2a and BWV 231. May I revert your revert again into my version for the list entry Sei Lob und Preis mit Ehren?
Thank you for coming over, nice to meet you! I know nothing about the "scores" links but saw that User:Francis Schonken, who wrote most of the article, used them a lot, not only in that article, and I thought he knew what he was doing. (I was also perhaps mislead by your edit summary, as you explained.) I can't tell you if the bot should "learn" to accept "scores" (leaning towards yes), nor can Francis. - I probably didn't look enough into the second edit, sorry, please fix it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:58, 11 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for your kind answer, and also for the "thanks" on my tiny contribution at Anton Arensky as well! I modified Sei Lob und Preis mit Ehren now again. If I will be diligent enough, I will in future try to find out something about the "scores" and see if the bot can learn this thing. --Cyfal (talk) 23:53, 11 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
The Bach-Werke-Verzeichnis is not any longer listed on the latest database report – although I must admit I only understand this in case of Sei Lob und Preis mit Ehren because this text was changed, but not in case of Mylius which was not changed since the previous run of the Cewbot. Anyway, this shows that somehow Cewbot manages to understand the "score interlanguage links", too. Thank you all for discussing this with me. --Cyfal (talk) 15:35, 18 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
Today's DYK is Canticle I: My beloved is mine and I am his, - the composer, born OTD 110 years ago, didn't want it shorter (but the publisher). You can listen to the YT of the composer and his friend performing it, as in the premiere (link in the article and my story), or see some additional photos of them in a version with pianist Sviatoslav Richter, or watch a more recent video with Cyrille Dubois and Anne Le Bozec [de] (among others). I didn't know the music and find it breathtaking.
My story today is about Mozart's Requiem, the music we will sing today, on the last Sunday in the church year. The text in Mozart's handwriting on that page says "fac eas, Domine, de morte transire ad vitam", tough to translate, perhaps: make them, Lord, go over from death to life. - I sang in the performance mentioned. Then, the Requiem was coupled with Bach's Ich will den Kreuzstab gerne tragen, BWV 56. Today, we'll listen to the strings playing Pärt's Fratres leading into the Requiem without a break, and to Da pacem Domine leading into the Agnus Dei. - We don't just sing a concert, we remember the dead. One of my relatives who died was born on 26 November; when he was a young man he would answer a phone call saying "Mozart". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:56, 26 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
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On 28 November 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Luca Salsi, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Luca Salsi(pictured) performed leading roles in two operas in a row at the Metropolitan Opera, stepping in on 30 minutes' notice in Verdi's Ernani and singing as planned in Lucia di Lammermoor? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Luca Salsi. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Luca Salsi), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Candidates, in case you look here: you all won my neutral, - at present I won't vote. For background, look at the discussion with Martinevans123 (same header). If you want to earn my support please look more into the aspects of the question, such as the different history of the infoboxes for Mozart and Pärt (who both had one in 2006), and what it tells you about the nature of the conflict, meaning - at least to me - that a general RfC about the general use of infoboxes will not cure specific concerns. I'll look again at your answers in a week. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:30, 30 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
DYK for François Glorieux
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Hello Gerda, I thought you might be interested in this draft I created. The church is where Silent Night was premiered in 1818. I have a number of articles I’ll be working on in the next few weeks, so I might not get to it for a while. Thought you might want to improve it for a Christmas season DYK! Best, Thriley (talk) 20:06, 29 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
Today was my day one (of two) with the MuseumsuferTicket Loriot and Museum of Modern Art I were disappointing. Feininger, Holbein, Romantik-Museum, Liebieg nice to see. The ticket seems to be cheaper then Schirn + Städel. Grimes2 (talk) 17:18, 5 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Another tip. Do you know the roof terrace of the Oper Frankfurt, with wonderful view over the Frankfurt skyline. Its on the 3rd Rang level direct over the foyer.
The image of bright crystals will be my greeting for the holidays. Feel free to copy it if I don't get to you personally, with good wished for joy and peace not only on holidays! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:03, 8 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
I thought of you, Voceditenore, when I took pictures of angels making music yesterday. You made my year by your comments for Mozart! We sang his Requiem in the 50th aniversary year of my choir, and the composer would have liked it. For Christmas, we'll sing the "singen, singen" quoted in my user's infobox. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:54, 20 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
The days were filled with singing! We had two more cards, 25 Decemer (our singing on Christmas Eve pictured) and 26 December (we have two days, and at Bach's times they had three days. Check out this page for the word "peace" (25 times as I write this), or "shalom" (15 times). I set the simple wooden Krippe on two concert posters, one for Mozart's Requiem (2023) and one titled Nie wieder Krieg (War never again, 2014). Perhaps I'll make another card, of a vulnerable litle family on the backdrop of war and death. - Thank you all for an uplifting supply of collaboration, support and cheers this year, - looking forward to 2024! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:00, 29 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Holiday Greetings
Peace is a state of balance and understanding in yourself and between others, where respect is gained by the acceptance of differences, tolerance persists, conflicts are resolved through dialog, people's rights are respected and their voices are heard, and everyone is at their highest point of serenity without social tension.
Thank you Gerda for all the "Precious" things you do for our WP community. I feel that we work side by side to achieve tolerance and respect. Buster7 (talk) 13:53, 8 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
You're welcome, Gerda! I do think you have a very good point; we could all do with being a bit more patient sometimes. Recently I have found myself frequently reminded of what it was like for me starting out as a young Wikipedia editor, and thus how important it is that we assume good faith and are not harsh on new editors. And, when it comes to conflict, it is always best to remain calm and civil. At the same time, I'm somebody who needs to get things done as soon as I have a good idea of where I am headed - this was certainly true of my academic endeavours, and I can also imagine that's what Luther and Speratus were thinking when they wrote those hymns! Once you've got a loose idea of what you want to do, you (and others!) can build upon it, and that's the joy of Wikipedia editing. Patient Zerotalk23:39, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hello there, thanks for all of your contributions to Wikipedia! Wishing you a Very Merry Christmas and here's to a happy and productive 2024! ♦ Dr. Blofeld19:04, 18 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hello Gerda Arendt, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2024. Happy editing,
Thank you, Voce, that sounds angelic! Did you know that I thought of you when I took pictures of angels making music yesterday, to be uploaded? You made my year by your comments for Mozart! We sang his Requiem in the 50th aniversary year of my choir, and the composer would have liked it. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:54, 20 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Happy Holiday's
My precious friend, I wish you the happiest holiday season. You might have impacted my life more than most can fathom these past three years. I am forever grateful to you for helping me through one of my darkest seasons of life. You are an inspiration and a breath of fresh air. You may sing with your nature voice but the Song I hear, and radiates through me, is not heard with natural ears but with the eyes of the heart. What a truly beautiful and awe inspiring Song you live every day. Thank you for sharing it with me. Blessing's for the new year, Gerda. --ARoseWolf21:05, 20 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Whether you celebrate Christmas, Diwali, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Festivus (for the rest of us!) or even the Saturnalia, here's hoping your holiday time is wonderful and - especially -
that the New Year will be an improvement on the old. CHEERS!
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Merry Christmas, Gerda Arendt! Or Season's Greetings or Happy Winter Solstice! As the year winds to a close, I would like to take a moment to recognize your hard work and offer heartfelt gratitude for all you do for Wikipedia. And for all the help you've thrown my way over the years. May this Holiday Season bring you nothing but joy, health and prosperity.Onel5969TT me02:31, 23 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Hi Gerda! I'd like to wish you a splendid solstice season as we wrap up the year. Here is an artwork, made individually for you, to celebrate. Thanks for all you do to recognize precious editors! Take care, and thanks for all you do to make Wikipedia better!Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}}talk
Solstice Celebration for Gerda Arendt, 2023, DALL·E 3.
Gerda I wish you and yours the happiest of Christmases - may the coming year be full of love and light and peace and abundant music. In spite of the sometime darkness, there is a lot more love in the world than people even know, and may the joy of the season visit you and stay awhile. - Antandrus(talk)15:44, 24 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Dear Gerda: thank you for welcoming back to Wikipedia. 2023 marks my first year to return to Wikipedia and trying to find a way to contribute to it. You have been encouraging, kind, and motivating. You are the one who is precious.
Merry Christmas, Gerda Arendt! Wishing you Season's Greetings and a Happy Winter Solstice! As the year comes to a close, I want to express my appreciation for your dedicated efforts on Wikipedia and extend heartfelt thanks for your assistance throughout the years. May the holiday season bring you and your loved ones abundant joy, good health, and prosperity.
Dreaming of a white Christmas! I just wanted to say that I'm impressed by the activity of editors like you in creating and revising music-related articles on this wiki! Cheers. Векочел (talk) 01:13, 26 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Hi Gerda. Please would you kindly help me with this question as I do not speak German. I am currently creating an article about an English woman who was awarded the Bundesverdienstkreuz Erster Klasse, or Order of Merit First Class of the Federal Republic of Germany, in 1952. I would like to include a picture of the medal, and there are plenty of pictures here: Category:Order of Merit of the Federal Republic of Germany. But which picture? It would be one of the more modest versions, but first class. Cheers. Storye book (talk) 17:34, 9 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Hi Gerda, it would be a pleasure and honour for me if you look and revise the German version of Come Thou Almighty King, which we sung yesterday in Christuskirche and will sing tonight during the Ingelheim Christmas market. Nevertheless have a contemplative 2nd Advent. Symposiarch (talk) 11:47, 10 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Hello, I was talking to @Espresso Addict about the use of Google Translate on an article here and she suggested that I ask you for source verification just to make sure Google Translate did not mistranslate anything. If you are not willing to review the article yourself, what editors who are proficient in German would you recommend to review this article? ❤HistoryTheorist❤02:40, 15 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for asking, but no, I don't edit such pages unless for fixing mistakes, and no, I feel that as not a native speaker I'm less qualified to say something substantial than some of those who commented already. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:20, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
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Belated Christmas greetings and happy new year. I have not sent my usual greetings this season. Coordinator work, preparing a talk for January 2 and real life have me quite busy. I just took better notice of User:Gerda Arendt/Stories. As always, this is another great contribution to the project by you. Donner60 (talk) 22:29, 30 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Wishing you and yours a Happy New Year, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free and may Janus light your way. Ealdgyth (talk) 14:34, 31 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Dear Gerda, I apologize for not replying to your thoughtful messages. December is usually a busy month for me; this one has been even more so, much of it because of my own doing! But I wanted to let you know that I did read them and that it means very much to me that you took the trouble to think of me, despite my occasional irascibility. (Within me the patrimony of my hot-blooded Italian forebears are ever in conflict with the expressive austerity of my Basque ancestors!) Thank you for everything that you do on here. My sincerest wishes to you for good health and much joy in 2024! :) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 21:43, 31 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
Thank you for your personal expression, and have a good curry time in 2024 - brief, off to the village fireworks to come. I just finished my pics of 2023, and it was a good harvest, in the end of many Christmas trees, angels, high water and a flaming sky. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:38, 31 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
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is music for today. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:11, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
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; see Talk:Johanna Geisler for comments about the article, and Talk:Johanna Geisler/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Chiswick Chap -- Chiswick Chap (talk) 19:41, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
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I'm sorry for having brought the topic up; I had seen you asking about it on ArbCom election question pages and thought the motion may be interesting. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 23:51, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
~ ToBeFree (talk) 14:05, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
Done BTW: I've "shot" this day all cultural heritage monuments in Offenthal. Grimes2 (talk) 14:02, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
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