UndercoverClassicist

Question from YourMumInternational (09:50, 21 November 2024)

hi ive never done this before but im eager to learn what is the best way to do that --YourMumInternational (talk) 09:50, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

Question from Philmil0055 (17:17, 23 November 2024)

hello --Philmil0055 (talk) 17:17, 23 November 2024 (UTC)

Question from Wandering mushroom (20:35, 3 December 2024)

Hi! Do you have recommendations on how to structure the translation of a book title and its year? (for example, I'm working on a page where there is a section of notable works, which are in German, and I'm looking to include the translation of the title into English and include the publishing year. I can clarify if needed!) Thanks! --Wandering mushroom (talk) 20:35, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi: the easy way is to use a template like {{cite book}}, which does the hard work for you. Set the |ref= parameter to "none" to keep the code happy. For example, you could do something like this:

• {{cite book|lang=de|year=2024|title=Großes Deutsches Buch|trans-title=Big German Book|ref=none}}

That produces:

• Großes Deutsches Buch [Big German Book] (in German). 2024.

The advantage to doing it this way is that it's easy for future editors to maintain consistency, and you can easily expand it with additional parameters (like the author, translator, publisher and so on) while keeping the style the same.

(If you're interested: the reason for the |ref=none is that this template is designed to be used for cited works in an article, so some scripts will flag it as an error if a book is described using this template but not then cited in a reference. Setting the parameter like this tells them it's a false alarm. The template is widely used in Featured Articles and similar for the purposes you want here: you could see Eduard Fraenkel for a good example.) UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 20:51, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Argos

Hi UC; hope all is well. I wanted to try and get Argos (dog) into better condition and, given your clear expertise in the classics, I was wondering if you might have some recommendations for reading (or better yet, have a ready source) that analyzes Odysseus's faithful companion. Any insight you have on this topic would be supremely appreciated. Thanks in advance. ThaesOfereode (talk) 20:39, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi -- a noble cause indeed.

• There's a bit of material here (JSTOR, via TWL), with bibliography.
• More generally, have you tried a commentary on Odyssey 17 (the book where Argus appears)? Quite a few of the big hitters (e.g. de Jong's, here are available via CUP or Brill on TWL.
• I haven't read it, but Berdt Steinbock has a chapter on the scene here (not TWL, sadly).
• There's some discussion of the scene here, p. 54 (I've only seen the Google Books preview, though).

The scene is understood as part of the "watchdog motif" that runs through the Odyssey, and you might find additional bibliography on that as a broader theme in folklore. UndercoverClassicist ^T·C 21:25, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Thanks so much, UC! This stuff is great (and I luckily have access to Steinbock's piece through other means). I appreciate you digging these up for me; these are all great additions to what I've already scrounged up. If you think of anything else that might be useful, please feel free to ping me again! ThaesOfereode (talk) 22:39, 7 December 2024 (UTC)

Model S

Hi UndercoverClassicist, just checking if you're planning to comment on this FAC? Thanks, 750h+ 10:23, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

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		Wishing everybody a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! The Adoration of the Magi in the Snow (1563) by Pieter Bruegel the Elder is my Wiki-Christmas card to all for this year. Johnbod (talk) 17:36, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

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