Template talk:Did you know/Approved
This page holds approved nominations that are waiting to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page. Following DYK approval, nominations are processed and moved into a Prep area, and from there, prep sets are promoted to a queue, and then to the main page.
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August 4 | 1 | |
August 5 | 1 | |
August 7 | 1 | |
August 11 | 1 | |
August 14 | 1 | |
August 16 | 1 | 1 |
August 17 | 2 | 1 |
August 18 | 3 | 3 |
August 20 | 3 | 2 |
August 21 | 1 | 1 |
August 23 | 1 | |
August 24 | 3 | 2 |
August 25 | 6 | 4 |
August 26 | 4 | 2 |
August 27 | 5 | 3 |
August 28 | 7 | 5 |
August 29 | 7 | 3 |
August 30 | 11 | 2 |
August 31 | 6 | 4 |
September 1 | 3 | 3 |
September 2 | 5 | 2 |
September 3 | 5 | 3 |
September 4 | 3 | 2 |
September 5 | 4 | 2 |
September 6 | 5 | 2 |
September 7 | 8 | 2 |
September 8 | 5 | 2 |
September 9 | 8 | 3 |
September 10 | 6 | 5 |
September 11 | 4 | 2 |
September 12 | 8 | 3 |
September 13 | 3 | 1 |
September 14 | 4 | 4 |
September 15 | 10 | 4 |
September 16 | 7 | 2 |
September 17 | 3 | |
September 18 | 10 | 6 |
September 19 | 7 | 3 |
September 20 | 10 | 2 |
September 21 | 4 | 1 |
September 22 | 6 | 2 |
September 23 | 9 | 2 |
September 24 | 7 | 3 |
September 25 | 5 | 2 |
September 26 | 5 | 1 |
September 27 | 9 | 3 |
September 28 | 8 | 2 |
September 29 | 7 | 5 |
September 30 | 4 | 3 |
October 1 | 2 | 1 |
October 2 | ||
Total | 249 | 111 |
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Instructions for nominators
editThis page is for those nominations that have already been approved and are waiting to be promoted. If yours has been approved but has not yet been run on the main page, it should either be on this page or will soon be moved here, or already promoted to a Prep area or Queue ahead of an appearance on the main page.
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editBacklogged?
editThis page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until someone promotes it to a preparation area. To alleviate this problem, if the approved page has more than 120 approved hooks, then sets will change twice per day (every 12 hours) instead of once per day (every 24 hours). When the backlog falls below 60 approved nominations set frequency returns to once a day.
Where is my hook?
editIf you can't find the nomination you submitted to the nominations page, and it also isn't on this page, in most cases it means your article has been approved and is either in one of the prep areas, has been promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.
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Instructions for other editors
editHow to promote an accepted hook
edit- See Wikipedia:Did you know/Preparation areas for full instructions.
- In one window, open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to promote.
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- In the prep set...
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- Add an edit summary, e.g., "Promoted [[Jane Fonda]]", preview, and save
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How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue
edit- Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
- Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
- View the edit history for that page
- Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
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- If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.
Nominations
editSpecial occasion holding area
edit- Do not nominate articles in this section—nominate all articles in the nominations section on the regular nominations page, under the date on which the article was created or moved to mainspace, or the expansion began, or it was listed as a Good Article; be sure to indicate in the nomination any request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.
- Note: Articles intended to be held for special occasion dates should be nominated within seven days of creation, start of expansion, or promotion to Good Article status. The nomination should be made between at least one week prior to the occasion date, to allow time for reviews and promotions through the prep and queue sets, but not more than six weeks in advance. The proposed occasion must be deemed sufficiently special by reviewers. The timeline limitations, including the six week maximum, may be waived by consensus, if a request is made at WT:DYK, but requests are not always successful. Discussion clarifying the hold criteria can be found here: [1]; discussion setting the six week limit can be found here: [2].
- April Fools' Day hooks are exempted from the timeline limit; see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.
- Note for promoters: please be sure to add an "invisible" comment after a hook when you've placed it in prep, noting that it's a special occasion hook and including the date it is supposed to run. This should keep the hook from being moved after promotion, as sometimes happens to hooks when a queue needs a slot filled or a prep set needs to be made more balanced by swapping hooks between preps.
November 7 (after US election polls close)
editAllison Reese
- ... that Allison Reese has been called "better at Kamala than Kamala is"? Source: Holtermann, Callie (2024-07-22). "A Kamala Harris Impersonator Is Ready for Her Moment". The New York Times. ISSN 0362-4331. Retrieved 2024-08-04.
"You're better at Kamala than Kamala is," a commenter wrote on one of her videos.
- ALT1: ... that comedian Allison Reese came out to her parents through a group text message? Source: Rodriguez, Alexander (2023-11-19). "Allison Reese is a Comedic Star on the Rise". Metrosource. ISSN 1529-935X. Retrieved 2024-08-04.
So, I just sent a group text. I was just like, "Hey, think I'm gay. That cool?" Several minutes went by and I was like, oh God. And my dad finally responded, "Yep, you're good." And that's truly it. And my mom called and was like, "Hey, I know you're doing comedy. Is that like a joke?" I was like, no, it's real. And she's like, "Okay!"
- ALT2: ... that Allison Reese has received millions of views on social media for her impressions of Kamala Harris? Source: Burnett, Erin (2024-08-03). "Meet comedian who went viral for her impression of Kamala Harris". Erin Burnett OutFront (Television production). CNN. 0:22. Retrieved 2024-08-04.
Her impressions of Harris have lit up social media, a few getting millions of views.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Alex Thach
- Comment: Thanks for reviewing! Definitely open to more hooks here, but I think ALT0 is the most intriguing one I can make.
- ALT1: ... that comedian Allison Reese came out to her parents through a group text message? Source: Rodriguez, Alexander (2023-11-19). "Allison Reese is a Comedic Star on the Rise". Metrosource. ISSN 1529-935X. Retrieved 2024-08-04.
Bsoyka (t • c • g) 03:23, 5 August 2024 (UTC).
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Hook eligibility:
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- Other problems: - If ALT1 is approved, then reference [1] needs to be repeated directly after the sentence "Soon after this, at the age of 22, she came out as a lesbian through a group text message to her parents, who were both supportive of her sexuality." This is necessary per WP:DYKHFC, which says "The facts of the hook in the article should be cited no later than the end of the sentence in which they appear."
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Overall: Bsoyka Nice work on this article. I think ALT0 is the most interesting as well, but ALT1 might also work. I'm not sure about ALT2, since many influencers get millions of views for whatever it is that they're known for. Epicgenius (talk) 19:11, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Bsoyka, Epicgenius, and Kimikel: Just noting that I have pulled this from prep 1 as there is already a Kamala hook in queue 7 and there's another in a later prep. I have not in any way assessed the article.--Launchballer 14:09, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Pulled per WT:DYK#Allison Reese and WP:DYKELECT. Not the nom's fault, and so this shouldn't be timed out. I've moved it to SOHA.--Launchballer 22:10, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
Approved nominations
editArticles created/expanded on August 16
editJoe Wirkkunen
- ... that Joe Wirkkunen coached the Finland men's national ice hockey team after receiving a recommendation from Canada?
- Reviewed: Grace Panvini and Robert Aiello
- Comment: I volunteer two QPQ credits for one nomination, to help reduce the backlog of nominations without reviews.
Flibirigit (talk) 17:26, 23 August 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: I have some concern about the roundabout way the citation verifies the hook. Presently, I think there are two logical leaps being made from "sought suggestions from the local hockey community, and Joe's name was recommended" → "receiving a recommendation from Canada?" and then "Finland was searching for a Finnish speaking instructor with knowledge of the Canadian ice hockey system." → "coached the Finland men's national ice hockey team" connected by the "after receiving" makes it sound like the coaching position was directly a result from the recommendation from Canada. Bobby Cohn (talk) 17:25, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm okay with Canada being a stand-in for "local community" (we're small, I get it; and it is limited at DYK) but the implied timeline seems like a bit of a stretch, but could be easily remedied. Suggested alternative: ALT1: "... that Joe Wirkkunen, after receiving a recommendation from Canada, would go on to coach the Finland men's national ice hockey team?" just to clarify. Bobby Cohn (talk) 17:26, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Another opinion is needed for ALT1 since neither I nor the original reviewer are eligible to approve it. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 00:56, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Bobby Cohn and Flibirigit: Neither the article nor the source say where he was recommended from. It just says "to former Canadian Amateur Hockey Association president Frank Sargent".--Launchballer 09:48, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- The source states "from the local hockey community", which is Port Arthur, where both Wirkkunen and Sargent resided and were involved in hockey. I have added that specific phrase to the article. Flibirigit (talk) 00:34, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Port Arthur and Canada are not the same thing.--Launchballer 21:23, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- The source states "from the local hockey community", which is Port Arthur, where both Wirkkunen and Sargent resided and were involved in hockey. I have added that specific phrase to the article. Flibirigit (talk) 00:34, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Bobby Cohn and Flibirigit: Neither the article nor the source say where he was recommended from. It just says "to former Canadian Amateur Hockey Association president Frank Sargent".--Launchballer 09:48, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Another opinion is needed for ALT1 since neither I nor the original reviewer are eligible to approve it. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 00:56, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
You'll note I did catch this on my first pass. An explanation as to why this botherered me less when I came to review this is that if something (i.e.: a person, a recommendation) comes from Port Author, it also inherently comes from Canada. Bobby Cohn (talk) 21:35, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Fair enough. Let's roll.--Launchballer 21:43, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 17
edit1961 Pittsburg State Gorillas football team
- ... that the undefeated 1961 Pittsburg State Gorillas (pictured with UPI trophy) shut out seven opponents, featured four All-Americans and won three national championships?
- Source: Seven shutouts: here
Four All-Amerians: Snadon here, Archer, Beal, Hess here
Three national championships: UPI national small college champion (here), NAIA national champion (here), and AP small college national champion (here).Cbl62 (talk) 11:30, 18 August 2024 (UTC).
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QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Looks good. No copyvio detected with Earwig, image is PD (though I'd recommend limiting to one tag, as no notice automatically means PD for that era). Not sure about having such a lengthy blurb for the image on the MP, so it might be trimmed. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:07, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
1961 Pittsburg State Gorillas (pictured with UPI trophy)
leads one to believe it's a picture of the entire team. It's not a bad photo, but it's nothing terribly exciting either so I think we'd be OK running this one without the image. RoySmith (talk) 22:25, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- What about
Head coach Carnie Smith with Gary Snadon and Harlan Hess
? — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:54, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- What about
Articles created/expanded on August 18
editBeata Olsson
- ... that when Swedish soccer player Beata Olsson transferred from Florida to Florida State, she said she didn't really know about the schools' rivalry?
- Source: ref5
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Stefon
Hameltion (talk | contribs) 04:44, 19 August 2024 (UTC).
- Not a review, more of a comment: the current hook is very US-centric. The rivalry will probably be understood by US readers, but those outside the US may not be as familiar with the Gators-Seminoles rivalry. My suggestion would be to add some more context to the hook, like saying Olsson helped the Seminoles in their soccer championships. As written, the hook doesn't even make it clear that she's a soccer player! Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:20, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- Hmm, I wouldn't describe that as US-centric, just local. But not being familiar with the rivalry is kind of central to the hook. Could add that she won championships but I think that would be wordy/distract. Added sport. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 13:32, 19 August 2024 (UTC)
- I meant that readers would need to know that Florida and Florida State have a rivalry to get the hook. It's a different thing from Olsson being unaware of it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:41, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think most readers can infer that two schools within the same state are probably rivals. For the hook, I'd add Olsson's nationality to make it a bit clearer about why she wouldn't know about the rivalry. SounderBruce 03:17, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- I've added Swedish to the hook for additional context. I think the additional context about her being a football player and being from Sweden satisfies my original concerns. Full review still needed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:50, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- I think most readers can infer that two schools within the same state are probably rivals. For the hook, I'd add Olsson's nationality to make it a bit clearer about why she wouldn't know about the rivalry. SounderBruce 03:17, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- I meant that readers would need to know that Florida and Florida State have a rivalry to get the hook. It's a different thing from Olsson being unaware of it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:41, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Might as well do a review as no one else has picked it up. The article is new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. Her date of birth is mentioned in the article but lacks a reference, so that will need to be addressed. The lede also has a minor grammatical error ("Sweden at youth international level" instead of "Sweden at the youth international level"). I did not find any close paraphrasing, and a QPQ has been provided. The changes to the hook have addressed my concerns and I feel it now sufficiently meets WP:DYKINT as I think the hook fact works with the additional context, even if readers are not aware of the rivalry. Although I added "Swedish" to the hook, it does not fundamentally change the hook fact and it's already verified in the article, so I'll give it an IAR approval rather than ask a new reviewer to approve it, once the issues raise above have been addressed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:22, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Thanks, addressed. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 13:05, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:38, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
Ultimate X-Men (2024)
- ... that Maystorm, a character from Ultimate X-Men, was initially created as a variant cover for the X-Men comic?
- Source: Cameron Bonomolo (January 23, 2024). "Ultimate X-Men Writer Teases "Something Completely New and Different"". Comic Book.com. Retrieved April 26, 2024.
Cambalachero (talk) 13:43, 19 August 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Cambalachero! Overall, I think the article is well-written. Earwig showed no copyright violations, and the article was moved to mainspace on 16 August, so it is new enough. However, I have some concerns about the plot section. Although there are no specific standard for its length and the current plot summary is sourced, I think it is a bit too lengthy, as it is longer than the lead, editorial history, and reception sections combined. Trimming it down to around 400 to 700 words would be more suitable for the article, so it does not overly focus on in-universe content. —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 13:01, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Done, just made it significantly shorter. Articles about comics tend to be magnets for people compelled to add every detail of the plots, you get distracted for a couple of days and the plot section grows exponentially. Cambalachero (talk) 15:06, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yea, I realise the one who expanded the plot summary section was not you. Thanks for cleaning up the article. Ready to go now! —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 12:28, 23 August 2024 (UTC)
- Done, just made it significantly shorter. Articles about comics tend to be magnets for people compelled to add every detail of the plots, you get distracted for a couple of days and the plot section grows exponentially. Cambalachero (talk) 15:06, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
Article is not "long enough" due to the bare-bones lede section—please expand. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 15:39, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Done, but that's not the DYK criteria. "Long enough" is not subjective or open to opinion, it's about being larger than 1500 bytes. Concerns about the article unrelated to the DYK nomination should go to the talk page, not here. Cambalachero (talk) 16:14, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yet WP:DYKCOMPLETE states that any article that is to appear on the front page should appear to be reasonably complete and not some sort of work in progress; there's nothing presentable on a DYK nom with a lede that consists of nothing more than an opening sentence. Having said that, I'm reverting the approved tick. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 16:32, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- I opened the comment with "Done". Meaning, although I do not consider this part of the DYK criteria, I did expand the lead as asked. Cambalachero (talk) 16:39, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yet WP:DYKCOMPLETE states that any article that is to appear on the front page should appear to be reasonably complete and not some sort of work in progress; there's nothing presentable on a DYK nom with a lede that consists of nothing more than an opening sentence. Having said that, I'm reverting the approved tick. Nineteen Ninety-Four guy (talk) 16:32, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Done, but that's not the DYK criteria. "Long enough" is not subjective or open to opinion, it's about being larger than 1500 bytes. Concerns about the article unrelated to the DYK nomination should go to the talk page, not here. Cambalachero (talk) 16:14, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Umehara ga kimeta
- ... that the cries of a fighting game commentator have spawned a huge number of mash-ups?
- ALT1: ... that the fighting game commentator's cry "Umehara ga kimeta" has been described as the No. 1 play-by-play commentary in E Sports history? Source: https://gamer2.jp/post/ogawara0005/
- ALT2: ... that the fighting game commentator's cry "Umehara ga kimeta" is regarded alongside the best Olympic commentaries? Source: https://gamer2.jp/post/ogawara0005/
- Reviewed:
- Comment: I am not a native English speaker, so if there are any unnatural expressions in the text or hooks, I will appreciate it if you could improve them. this is my first recommendation to DYK, so please advise me if there are any mistakes.
狄の用務員 (talk) 08:56, 18 August 2024 (UTC).
- Article is new enough and long enough. WP:EARWIG says "Violation Unlikely". QPQ is not necessary. I'm going to AGF on the Japanese sourcing. Personally, I prefer ALT2, but ALT1 is also good. Overall, seems good to go! Di (they-them) (talk) 19:14, 18 August 2024 (UTC)
- Shouldn't it be "was regarded"? "is regarded" make it sound like a general consensus, when it was one writer's opinion. Even then, it appears to present the source's praise more unquestioningly than the source itself. It looks like the (only) source is being over the top intentionally. They admit their overenthusiasm and the inadequacy of the comparison when they say いやいや、流石にこの2つを並べるのは五輪側に失礼じゃあないか in the same article. Will the ALT2's wording convey the tone? --2001:240:2428:D68C:A88A:93:AE50:2C3F (talk) 00:59, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- I would propose ALT3.
- ALT3: ... that the fighting game commentator's cry "Umehara ga kimeta" was regarded alongside the best Olympic commentaries? Source: https://gamer2.jp/post/ogawara0005/
- I personally think the source is a normal article, consistent with reliable sources, of a normal tone, of a normal media outlet.狄の用務員 (talk) 13:37, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 20
editJools Lebron
- ... that following the success of Jools Lebron's "demure" videos, she stated that she was able to use the proceeds to pay for her gender transition - only for someone else to trademark it? Source: https://variety.com/2024/digital/news/demure-creater-tiktok-jools-lebron-gender-transition-1236109680/ for transition, https://www.thepinknews.com/2024/08/26/very-demure-very-mindful-jools-lebron-tiktok/ for skulduggery
- ALT1: ... that the August 2024 "demure" TikTok trend was started by Jools Lebron? Source: per ALT0
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Michael Jerrell
- Comment: Drive-by nom. Appears to meet minimum standards, will go through with a fine-toothed comb when I don't have a 7-day clock ticking. The bit of ALT0 after the dash probably deserves WP:DYKTRIMming but I see no harm in adding it post hoc for the promoter's consideration.
Launchballer 16:54, 25 August 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, well sourced and neutral. Earwig picked up one phrase, which I think should be re-written: "...individuals with no known connection to Lebron separately tried to register demure-related trademarks ..." which is in the Indpendent source. Hook is cited and interesting. QPQ is done. I like the snappy ALT1. Once the phrase is re-written, should be good to go. Lajmmoore (talk) 11:44, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Just pinging @Willthacheerleader18: and Launchballer as you must have been waiting patiently for a review Lajmmoore (talk) 11:45, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Lajmmoore: I believe I have satisfied your concerns.--Launchballer 12:23, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Perfect Launchballer, thank you so much Lajmmoore (talk) 13:26, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Lajmmoore: I believe I have satisfied your concerns.--Launchballer 12:23, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
Piano Sonata (Barber)
- ... that Samuel Barber's Piano Sonata was described by The New York Times as "the first sonata really come of age by an American composer of this period"?
- ALT1: ... that Samuel Barber's Piano Sonata was premiered by Vladimir Horowitz? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/1950/01/24/archives/horowitz-offers-barbers-sonata-his-sonata-heard.html
- ALT2: ... that Samuel Barber said he could not adequately play his own Piano Sonata? Source: Sherman, Robert; Barber, Samuel (2010) [1978]. "Samuel Barber Interviewed by Robert Sherman (1978)". Samuel Barber Remembered: A Centenary Tribute. Boydell & Brewer. ISBN 978-1-58046-350-8. JSTOR 10.7722/j.ctt7zsv91.11., "I played [the sonata] for [Horowitz] at his house and I fell on the floor at the end of the third movement—that was really just a joke, but they were a little worried about me. It was awfully hard!" and Tocco, James (1977). "Happy Birthday, Samuel Barber!". Camera Three. CBS., Barber: "My sonata? No, no, no. I can't [play it]."
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Killing of Nyah Mway (pending as of 02:57, 20 August 2024 (UTC))
Zingarese talk · contribs (please mention me on reply; thanks!) 02:40, 20 August 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Alt2 is the best out of the three. Alt0 could be interesting, but too vague - "this period" needs clarification, might be helpful if the year that the NYT made the comment was added. Alt1 I don't find interesting at all and would not recommend. All three hooks are properly sourced. Please ping me once the QPQ is complete so that I may approve the nomination.QPQ complete. Prefer alt3 to alt2 but both can be used.
Earwig doesn't flag any copyvio. The article is of good quality and in my opinion could pass a Good Article nomination if the nominator is interested in that. Jaguarnik (talk) 21:46, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Jaguarnik:, hello and thank you for the review. I also agree that Alt2 is probably going to be the most interesting to a broad audience. Maybe I could revise it a bit:
- ALT3: ... that Samuel Barber, himself an accomplished, conservatory-trained pianist, said he could not adequately play his own Piano Sonata? Source: Sherman, Robert; Barber, Samuel (2010) [1978]. "Samuel Barber Interviewed by Robert Sherman (1978)". Samuel Barber Remembered: A Centenary Tribute. Boydell & Brewer. ISBN 978-1-58046-350-8. JSTOR 10.7722/j.ctt7zsv91.11., "I played [the sonata] for [Horowitz] at his house and I fell on the floor at the end of the third movement—that was really just a joke, but they were a little worried about me. It was awfully hard!", Tocco, James (1977). "Happy Birthday, Samuel Barber!". Camera Three. CBS., Barber: "My sonata? No, no, no. I can't [play it]." and Heyman, Barbara B. (2001). "Barber, Samuel (Osmond)". In Stanley Sadie; John Tyrrell (eds.). The New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians (2nd ed.). London: Macmillan.
- Let me know what you think. I would be fine with either ALT2 or ALT3; the ball is in your court! Zingarese talk · contribs (please mention me on reply; thanks!) 15:08, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Zingarese: Personally I think alt 3 works a bit better than alt2, since it gives more context to why it's so surprising that Samuel Barber could not play his own sonata. I would remove "accomplished", not because he wasn't accomplished, but to avoid MOS:PUFFERY and because I don't think it's super necessary.Jaguarnik (talk) 20:48, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sounds wonderful! Promoter please just lose the “accomplished, “ from the hook. Zingarese talk · contribs (please mention me on reply; thanks!) 17:37, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Zingarese: Personally I think alt 3 works a bit better than alt2, since it gives more context to why it's so surprising that Samuel Barber could not play his own sonata. I would remove "accomplished", not because he wasn't accomplished, but to avoid MOS:PUFFERY and because I don't think it's super necessary.Jaguarnik (talk) 20:48, 22 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Jaguarnik:, hello and thank you for the review. I also agree that Alt2 is probably going to be the most interesting to a broad audience. Maybe I could revise it a bit:
Articles created/expanded on August 21
edit...Well, Better Than the Alternative
- ... that "...Well, Better Than the Alternative" contains lyrics that act as "conceptual red herrings" to obstruct Will Wood's intention?
- ALT1: ... that the music video for "...Well, Better Than the Alternative" applies handmade paintings to live action footage of Will Wood through EBsynth? Source: https://newnoisemagazine.com/video-premiere-will-wood-well-better-than-the-alternative/
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Koopastar (talk) 02:06, 22 August 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Article was created 21 August and nominated on the same day. Fine article overall, thanks for your contribution. Regarding the hooks: the piped link to Will Wood (musician) should be updated to link to the article Will Wood directly, as redirects are not allowed. ALT0 is good, but somewhat more vague and mysterious than it is interesting, I think. ALT1 is more interesting, but jargony - I had to go looking through the source to learn what EBSynth is or why it's important. Can the software be omitted from the hook? As a suggestion:
- ALT1a: ... that the music video for "...Well, Better Than the Alternative" uses software to render handmade paintings over live action footage of musician Will Wood?"
- -- Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:05, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Ivanvector: I agree with your proposed hook, as it is easier to understand than what I wrote. Koopastar (talk) 17:41, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, then approved with hook ALT1a. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:56, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Not sure if you can approve your own hook DimensionalFusion (talk · she/her) 10:42, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed, new review needed for ALT1a. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:09, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Despite @DimensionalFusion:'s claim otherwise, @Ivanvector: was entirely able to approve ALT1a, as it introduces no new information to ALT1. Let's roll.--Launchballer 10:58, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Indeed, new review needed for ALT1a. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:09, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Not sure if you can approve your own hook DimensionalFusion (talk · she/her) 10:42, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, then approved with hook ALT1a. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 18:56, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Ivanvector: I agree with your proposed hook, as it is easier to understand than what I wrote. Koopastar (talk) 17:41, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 24
editStatue of John Stockton
- ... that the sculptor re-positioned the statue of John Stockton about 20 times by using a wrench to adjust ball-and-socket joints on steel rods?
- Source: [1]
- ALT1: ... that the statue of John Stockton was adorned with a mask during the COVID-19 pandemic? Source: [2][3]
- Reviewed: 0
Left guide (talk) 13:53, 26 August 2024 (UTC).
References
- ^ Robinson, Doug (June 14, 2004). "Sculpting Stockton no way a slam-dunk". Deseret News. Retrieved August 24, 2024.
- ^ Kalbrosky, Bryan (January 25, 2022). "Somebody put a mask on a John Stockton statue because he refuses to do it himself". USA Today. Retrieved August 24, 2024.
- ^ McCarriston, Shanna (January 25, 2022). "Fan puts face mask on John Stockton statue outside of Jazz's Vivint Arena". CBS Sports. Retrieved August 24, 2024.
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Overall: Fun little DYK, was kind of neat to learn more about the statue and how the everything came together. All in all it looks fine, no copyvio issues, and article is long enough. I'm not a huge fan of the second hook, it's not as interesting as learning about the process that was taken to make the statue. One minor note to the nominator, it was kind of a pain to go through the article history since you moved it over from your sandbox. Maybe consider using draft space next time. Dr vulpes (Talk) 15:44, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Dr vulpes: Thank you, glad to know you enjoy it! I personally find the first hook to be more interesting also, but my main qualm is that it seems somewhat difficult to include all of the useful details while keeping it reasonably simple and catchy for the average reader. As to the last point, my interest in working on specific topics comes and goes and seems totally random, so I often try to save things in userspace rather than draftspace to avoid the automatic deletion after 6 months, which has happened before. Left guide (talk) 01:30, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Left guide: I 100% feel you on that! I was going over it and it took me a little bit for it to click. No worries just glad you got it here to DYK. Dr vulpes (Talk) 03:09, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
UnMetal
- ... that UnMetal is a parody of Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake?
- ALT1: ... that in UnMetal, the player has to heal any enemies they shoot? Source: "... or the player being forced to use some of their limited health kits to heal enemies that they use lethal force on thanks to Fox’s insistence that he will not kill because he’s not an assassin."
- ALT2: ... that in UnMetal, the player saves their game by using a urinal? Source: "They can be difficult at first so fast save often with your portable bedpan…yes, a bedpan. Plus, you must empty it out at real save points, which are restrooms."
- ALT3: ... that the protagonist of UnMetal was originally created for a canceled game that donated money to humanitarian aid NGOs based on the player's game progress? Source: "Jesse Fox has an interesting origin story linked to a project code-named Afraid Project. It was a game in which progress made by the players would have an impact on the real world. For each successful operation performed by Jesse, there would be a donation to an NGO." This is also mentioned in the in-game digital artbook.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Zbrojovka Z 4
AdoTang (talk) 02:40, 25 August 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: The plot section does not have inline sourcing, but this is not required per MOS:PLOTSOURCE. ALT2 talks about using a bedpan to save and needing to empty it to save again, which is not exactly what the hook says. It may need to be reworded if it is the hook chosen, but I believe other hooks are more interesting anyway, especially ALT3. The source provided for ALT3 does not mention humanitarian aid, but this is mentioned in other sources in the article. I believe this DYK is ready to go. Muhandes (talk) 11:04, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 25
editPell v The Queen
- ... that in Pell v The Queen, the High Court of Australia unanimously overturned Cardinal George Pell's conviction for child sex offences?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Palace Theater Light
- Comment: Open for alternative hooks
— MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 03:59, 27 August 2024 (UTC).
- Any takers? It's been three weeks since I nominated. My nomination remains valid, but I'm hoping to attract the eyes of someone scrolling past given the length of time it has been since I nominated. Happy for a QPQ from someone. — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 07:40, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment about the hook and BLP: George Pell died on 10 January 2023, so he is no longer a living person. Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Recently dead or probably dead (WP:BDP) says:
It has been over 20 months since the subject's death so I don't think the BLP policy applies to him anymore. If it did apply to him, then WP:DYKHOOKBLP would be applicable. WP:DYKHOOKBLP says:Generally, this policy does not apply to material concerning people who are confirmed dead by reliable sources. The only exception would be for people who have recently died, in which case the policy can extend for an indeterminate period beyond the date of death—six months, one year, two years at the outside. Such extensions would apply particularly to contentious or questionable material about the subject that has implications for their living relatives and friends, such as in the case of a possible suicide or particularly gruesome crime.
The hook could be seen as putting focus on negative aspect of the subject's life (in mentioning the conviction even though it also says the conviction was overturned), but as WP:BDP does not apply, I do not think WP:DYKHOOKBLP is violated.Hooks must adopt a neutral point of view. Hooks that unduly focus on negative aspects of living persons should be avoided. Note that this is a stricter requirement than BLP as a whole: a sentence that might be due weight in the article can become undue if used in the hook, as all of the surrounding context of the individual's wider life is missing.
MaxnaCarta (talk · contribs), thank you for writing this important article on a difficult subject matter. Cunard (talk) 08:59, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 08:59, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
Self-Ish
- ... that multiple songs on Self-Ish express amnesia caused by recreational drug use?
- ALT1: ... that Self-Ish had frenetic two-hour writing sessions containing screaming because Will Wood was unmedicated? Source: https://nyunews.com/arts/music/2022/04/29/will-wood-interview-in-case-i-make-it/
- Reviewed:
Koopastar (talk) 07:11, 31 August 2024 (UTC).
- Article is both new and long enough. No copyright violation. Article is presentable. Both sources are cited, one with one with a local newspaper and a student newspaper. No QPQ necessary. I feel the ALT1 is more interesting. I also think it might make more sense, in the original proposal, for the word "express" to be replaced with the word "portray" or "depict". Overall a solid nomination. RoundSquare (talk) 06:19, 23 September 2024 (UTC).
Manuel Osa Nsue Nsua
- ... that a banker was named the prime minister of Equatorial Guinea to succeed a government that resigned for being "ineffective"?
- Source: News Central Africa ("Equatorial Guinea’s President Teodoro Obiang Nguema Mbasogo has appointed former bank chief Manuel Osa Nsue Nsua as prime minister, following a decree issued nearly three weeks after the previous government resigned for being 'ineffective.'")
- ALT1: ... that a banker was named his country's prime minister to succeed a government that resigned for being "ineffective"? Source: same
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Alfred Sully
- Comment: Open to other ways of wording or other ALT hooks. Was hoping to get this Equatoguinean featured in some way (since not many get featured after all - this would be only the country's third-ever DYK bio!).
BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:54, 25 August 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: You barely made the 7-day period! The hook is a little confusing, but oh well. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
14:03, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- TheNuggeteer, "but oh well" is not an adequate response to a hook being confusing. Please suggest improvements as part of your review. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:00, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry for the long reply! Reading this again, I don't think this is uninteresting or confusing.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
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- Sorry for the long reply! Reading this again, I don't think this is uninteresting or confusing.
Palace Theater Light
- ... that the Palace Theater Light bulb has been running since 1908?
―Panamitsu (talk) 06:20, 25 August 2024 (UTC).
- Taking this — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:20, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Reviewing... will post my comments this afternoon! — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:44, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: I am okay with sourcing as spot checks passed. However, I think you should actually link all the newspaper articles where possible so that any reviewing admin can also verify the sources. — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 01:44, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Panamitsu: I need you to please fix source 4, cited several times. Atlas Obscura articles are user-generated and user-editable with minimal oversight, and the site's terms of use includes disclaimers about user submissions. Many of the "places" articles cite Wikipedia as a source of their information or otherwise lack clear or reliable sourcing. Per WP:GUNREL: These articles should generally not be referenced on Wikipedia. I personally would have no issue with you using this source once or twice for something uncontroversial, however unfortunately for an article to appear on the Main Page, I don't think this source is gonna cut it. I can seek a second opinion if you want, but I would hate to approve it only for an admin to step in and decline to post...— MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:37, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- @MaxnaCarta: Thanks for telling me this, I hadn't seen this website before. I've removed it now. Luckily the other sources were already used for the same information so I didn't have to make many changes, except for removing a name and a year. ―Panamitsu (talk) 02:54, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Panamitsu: all good, thanks for actioning so fast. I will review the rest of the sources and come back to you. I dont anticipate any issues. Looks okay from here. Cheers — MaxnaCarta ( 💬 • 📝 ) 02:57, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 26
editTauba Tauba (song)
... that Karan Aujla's Hindi-language single "Tauba Tauba" from the film Bad Newz became a Billboard Hot 100 Top 25 ahead of the film's 19 July 2024 release?
- ALT1: ... that Karan Aujla's Hindi-language single "Tauba Tauba" from the film Bad Newz peaked at #1 on the Billboard India, and UK Asian charts ahead of the film's 19 July 2024 release? Source: https://www.billboard.com/charts/india-songs-hotw/2024-07-20/ and https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/asian-music-chart/20240719/asian/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Doris Ilda Allen
KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 06:40, 27 August 2024 (UTC).
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- Adequate sourcing: - no, ALT0 -> source references Canadian Hot 100, not (US) Billboard Hot 100
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- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
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- Cited: - no, ALT1 -> sources in article refer to charts released after the date of release, so not "ahead of the film's 19 July 2024", and are not the sources in the hook
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Overall: created July 2024, 5x expanded up to 26 August, but over more than 20 days not new enough Bogger (talk) 13:46, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- But this is not mentioned in the DYK rules that article must be expanded within 20 days. KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 18:26, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- Article qualifies as a 5x expansion as the expansion began on 26 August (per DYKcheck), the same day it was nominated at DYK. Creation date is not relevant in the case of a more recent 5x expansion, the date that matters was the date the expansion began. Pinging reviewer Bogger, to let them know that their review was based on a misunderstanding of the DYK rules. BlueMoonset (talk) 02:40, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I had used raw size expansion (3,233 bytes -> 7,570 bytes) instead of prose size (323 chars -> 200 chars). New enough, but hooks and sources need work... -Bogger (talk) 06:12, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- Bogger ALT2: ... that Karan Aujla's Hindi-language single "Tauba Tauba" from the film Bad Newz became a Billboard Canadian Hot 100 Top 25 ahead of the film's 19 July 2024 release? Source: https://www.billboard.com/charts/canadian-hot-100/2024-07-20/
- I have replaced the old chart sources with the hook sources. KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 10:18, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- updated sources for ALT1 look good, approved ALT1, ALT2 -Bogger (talk) 11:19, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
Rooms by the Sea
- ... that Edward Hopper sold some beachfront property to a New York art gallery?
Sources: "When he wrote to his dealer about the picture, an austere view out the door of his Truro studio...directly on the water of the bay, he noted only: 'I have finished a canvas am [sic] hoping to get another before we leave here'." Levin, Gail (1998). Hopper's Places (2nd ed). University of California Press. pp. XI. ISBN 9780520216761. OCLC 1228847942. "[Art collector Stephen Carlton Clark] bought Rooms by the Sea...and kept it for the remainder of his life. Hopper's wife, Jo, in the notebook she used to record her husband's sales, noted next to Clark's name in the entry for this picture, 'snapped up at once before shown publicly'." [...] "Purchased by SCC from Rehn Gallery, New York". Vincent, Gilbert T.; Sarah Lees (2006). "A Life with Art: Stephen Carlton Clark as Collector and Philanthropist". The Clark Brothers Collect: Impressionist and Early Modern Paintings. Sterling and Francine Clark Art Institute. pp. 186, 332. ISBN 0300116195. OCLC 1110377214- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mount Aniakchak; Template:Did you know nominations/Weston Turville Castle; Template:Did you know nominations/Cold Crematorium: Reporting From the Land of Auschwitz; Template:Did you know nominations/Leeds 2023
- Comments: Hopper had an exclusive arrangement with Rehn Gallery in New York for 43 years. See Edward Hopper: Paintings & Ledger Book Drawings (2012) for additional supporting info, particularly pp. 23, 25, and especially 114, where Hopper's wife confirms they received the check for the painting from Rehn on April 7, 1952.
Viriditas (talk) 23:02, 29 August 2024 (UTC).
- I started to review this, but then I got to copyediting so I'm ineligible to review. It grieves me to say that I could not find material for an even remotely off-color ALT. EEng 02:22, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- Article is new enough, long enough, and within policy. However, I don't think this hook works for two reasons. One, the fun of this hook is backwards. The punchline of this hook is when you get to the article and realize it is about a painting and not actual beachfront property. That's witty, but the wit isn't in what one sees on the main page. On its face, the buying of property along a beach isn't interesting, and I don't think the hook will draw in many readers so that they get the wit of the hook which requires actually going to the page. Two, the hook is factually inaccurate. Even if a painting depicts beachside property, the purchaser of a painting knows they aren't buying land, they are buying a painting. I get the humor/wit behind the hook, and if this were an April Fools hook proposal it would be appropriate. In short: we need a new hook that is hooky at first glance and verifiable.4meter4 (talk) 22:33, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
ALT1:
- ... that an art critic felt that Rooms by the Sea was one of Edward Hopper's "strangest" works?
- Source: "The light in many of Hopper’s paintings appears overdetermined, as much psychological as natural. In “Rooms by the Sea” (1951), one of his strangest paintings, it is especially urgent and borderline surrealistic." Johnson, Ken (January 3, 2013). "Artworks That Shine in New York Museums". The New York Times.
- @4meter4: I've provided an alternative hook that I think will satisfy your specifications. (In case you didn't know, the joke about selling someone "beachfront property" is a thing, [3], and we even have a page about a song about it.) --Tryptofish (talk) 21:11, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- That works for me. Approving Alt1.4meter4 (talk) 21:40, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 27
editYou Liked This (Okay, Computer!)
... that the former text-to-speech voice actor of TikTok narrated with predatory corporate language and buzzwords in Will Wood's "You Liked This (Okay, Computer!)"?
ALT1: ... that the music video for "You Liked This (Okay, Computer!)" ends with an anthropomorphic lizard on the Moon alongside the phrase "Wake Up Sheeple!" on a billboard?Source: https://cloutcloutclout.com/features/unwrapped/will-wood-you-liked-this/- Reviewed:
Koopastar (talk) 05:22, 5 September 2024 (UTC).
- Comment: Hi, Koopastar. I'm interested in reviewing this article. Please make sure the hooks are linked in the body of the article. I don't see ALT1 fully linked in the article. I see portions of it unsourced in the lead instead. How do you feel about removing all the other links from ALT1 so that only You Liked This (Okay, Computer!) is linked? This could help increase traffic to your nomination and prevent people from clicking on the other links instead. Viriditas (talk) 00:09, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Ivanvector: Following your suggestion of removing the links, I propose the following hook:
ALT1a: ... that the music video for "You Liked This (Okay, Computer!)" ends with an anthropomorphic lizard on the Moon alongside the phrase "Wake Up Sheeple!" on a billboard?
- Also, the hook isn't from the lead but rather is sourced in the music video section, from "anthropomorphic lizard" to the end of the first paragraph, followed by the article additionally supplemented for this DYK nomination. If this is incorrect in a way that I don't realize though, apologies. Koopastar (talk) 01:10, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Koopastar, I think you meant to ping Viriditas here, they are reviewing your article, not me. Cheers! Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:31, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry about that, copied the ping function from my previous nomination since I'm not used to DYK not having a reply function yet. @Viriditas: Here's a proper ping. Koopastar (talk) 20:03, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies, in response to the above, I was talking about ALT0, but typed ALT1 by accident. ALT1 checks out. Like you said, the content for ALT1 is in the music video section. I still can't find ALT0 sourced. Viriditas (talk)
- The lead content used in ALT0 is a rewording of the first sentence of the composition section, which is sourced by [7]. I opted to have the lead be different phrasing of the body so as not to create redundancy, but if necessary I can copy or swap the phrase down to have it be behind a source. Koopastar (talk) 20:59, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Some nominators will duplicate the ref just for the DYK, and after it appears in the main page, they will remove it. This shows the reviewer and others that the hooks are cited, even if it unnecessarily duplicates the ref for a brief period of time. Viriditas (talk) 21:02, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Both alts should be good now, as I made an edit to the article. Koopastar (talk) 21:18, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- I will finish up the review now. The only question I have is about the use of interview sources to support this material, which is sort of tricky since they ride the line between primary and secondary sources, and I tend to want to see secondary sources for hooks, however, I'm not seeing anything that is controversial or unusual, so I think we are almost good to go. I'll ping you if I have any questions. Viriditas (talk) 21:41, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- The lead content used in ALT0 is a rewording of the first sentence of the composition section, which is sourced by [7]. I opted to have the lead be different phrasing of the body so as not to create redundancy, but if necessary I can copy or swap the phrase down to have it be behind a source. Koopastar (talk) 20:59, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies, in response to the above, I was talking about ALT0, but typed ALT1 by accident. ALT1 checks out. Like you said, the content for ALT1 is in the music video section. I still can't find ALT0 sourced. Viriditas (talk)
- Sorry about that, copied the ping function from my previous nomination since I'm not used to DYK not having a reply function yet. @Viriditas: Here's a proper ping. Koopastar (talk) 20:03, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Koopastar, I think you meant to ping Viriditas here, they are reviewing your article, not me. Cheers! Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:31, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Ivanvector: Following your suggestion of removing the links, I propose the following hook:
@Koopastar: Thanks for your good work on this article. I have a few questions:
- Not a big deal, but in terms of reader expectations, I did expect to see a mention of either the spoken word or musique concrète genres (or both) in the lead. I realize you have them in the infobox, but as a fan of musique concrète, I was wondering why it was absent from the lead. Viriditas (talk) 22:34, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
In 2021, Will Wood took inspiration from Radiohead's "Fitter Happier"...In tribute to his inspiration, Wood directly included the song's origin album OK Computer (1997) as part of the title in parentheses.
- I see why you wrote it this way, but I'm concerned the general reader might be a touch confused. I always try to write for a reader that knows nothing about the topic. In this regard, you don't say "Fitter Happier" is a song or track; could you specify this outright? It may seem obvious to you and I, but not everyone is a music maven. Also, it is slightly confusing that you wait until the end of the paragraph to tell the reader the name of the album. How about adding that "Wood took inspiration from Radiohead's song "Fitter Happier" from the album OK Computer (1997)" at the beginning? And then at the end, simply saying "Wood directly included the song's origin album as part of the title in parentheses", since we already know that? It's okay if you disagree, but it did stand out to me after reading the article several times. Viriditas (talk) 22:07, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Following "Cicada Days" in May 2022, Wood began teasing the release of the new single on YouTube.
- Same thing here. Maybe "Following the single "Cicada Days"..." I realize that sounds redundant given what follows, but I find it helpful to prompt the reader, especially those who don't know what "Cicada Days" is here. Viriditas (talk) 22:18, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
The single was published on June 10. On "In case I make it," (2022), it appears as the tenth song, which is followed by "The Main Character" as a thematic successor.
- A bit of narrative, chronological continuity might help here. "The single was published on June 10, 2022, followed by the album In case I make it on July 29, where it appears as the tenth song..." Do it however you want, but I was curious about the dates here. Viriditas (talk) 22:31, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Standing's voice is represented by a wired mannequin head with screens, who begins speaking over sheep jumping across a fence
- Should "screens" be "television screens"? Should "begins speaking over" have "begins speaking over images of sheep jumping across a fence", added? I've never seen "screens" used by itself here. I've seen computer screens, television screens, etc. Maybe I'm just dumb? Viriditas (talk) 23:50, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
The video was written by Wood and Horvath as a story, contrasting live performance music videos. He took inspiration...
- "He"? Do you mean "They"? or if it is just Wood or Just Horvath, edit it to say that. Viriditas (talk) 23:50, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Review:
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Overall: Good to go. Prefer ALT1a but ALT0 is fine as well. ALT1 is my third choice, but is also fine. Viriditas (talk) 22:20, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note: @Viriditas and Koopastar: I believe both ALT1 and ALT1a fail WP:DYKFICTION, and ALT0 is rather difficult to parse. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:28, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, I agree. I missed that one, but caught it on the second nom, where we are now trying to work out a real world hook. I crossed out my approval up above. Koopastar, let's get some new hooks focused on the real world. Viriditas (talk) 20:22, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Koopastar: I think a hook about Bev Standing might be interesting. Viriditas (talk) 20:29, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Will Wood featured Bev Standing, whose voice was nonconsensually used as a text-to-speech voice by TikTok, on his song "You Liked This (Okay, Computer!)"? Source: https://cloutcloutclout.com/features/unwrapped/will-wood-you-liked-this/
- ALT3: ... that Will Wood's song "You Liked This (Okay, Computer!)" has been described as a TikTok-era version of Radiohead's song "Fitter, Happier"? Source: https://twostorymelody.com/will-wood-on-white-noise-decisions-on-singles-and-empty-celebrations/
- @Viriditas: Here are some newer hooks. Koopastar (talk) 23:25, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Hermética (album)
- ... that thrash metal band Hermética has a failed project to release a version of their debut album in English?
- Source: Juan Ignacio Provéndola (May 7, 2018). "Hermética: diez curiosidades a 30 años de su debut" [Hermética: 10 trivia 30 years after their debut] (in Spanish). La izquierda diario. Retrieved August 28, 2024.
- ALT1: ... that "Desde el oeste", from Hermética's debut album, was the first recorded song singed by Ricardo Iorio? Source: Blumetti, Frank; Mora, Miguel (October 1993). "Hermética: el sonido de la gente". Madhouse Extra (in Spanish) (2). Buenos Aires: Editorial Llamoso: 14.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Vadym Sukharevsky
Cambalachero (talk) 15:08, 28 August 2024 (UTC).
- to first hook, which I find more interesting. Source checks out, article sufficiently expanded. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 19:31, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
Cécile Fatiman
- ... that Cécile Fatiman was believed to be possessed by Èzili Dantò when she incited the Haitian Revolution? Source: Finch, Aisha K. (2020). "Cécile Fatiman and Petra Carabalí, Late Eighteenth-Century Haiti and Mid-Nineteenth-Century Cuba". In Ball, Erica L.; Seijas, Tatiana; Snyder, Terri L. (eds.). As If She Were Free: A Collective Biography of Women and Emancipation in the Americas. Cambridge University Press. pp. 307–309. ISBN 9781108493406.
- ALT1: ... that the Haitian Revolution began when Cécile Fatiman sacrificed a black pig, a ritual which was later repeated by Haitians resisting the United States occupation and the Duvalier dynasty? Source: Lundy, Garvey F. (2009). "Fatiman, Cécila". In Asante, Molefi Kete; Mazama, Ama (eds.). Encyclopedia Of African Religion. SAGE Publications. pp. 262–263. ISBN 978-1-4129-3636-1.
- ALT2: ... that the Vodou priestess Cécile Fatiman was credited with instilling Haitian Revolutionaries with a "superhuman courage"? Source: Kingsbury, Kate; Chesnut, R. Andrew (2019). "In Her Own Image: Slave Women and the Re-imagining of the Polish Black Madonna as Ezili Dantò, the Fierce Female Lwa of Haitian Vodou". International Journal of Latin American Religions. 3: 214–215. doi:10.1007/s41603-019-00071-5.
- ALT3: ... that despite leading the ceremony that incited the Haitian Revolution, Cécile Fatiman has often been left out of historiography about the revolution? Source: Watkins, Angela Denise (2014). Mambos, Priestesses, and Goddesses: Spiritual Healing Through Vodou in Black Women's Narratives of Haiti and New Orleans (PhD). University of Iowa. pp. 2–4. doi:10.5840/jcr20214439.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Mary Jo West
Grnrchst (talk) 09:15, 28 August 2024 (UTC).
- Interesting GA biography, on fine sources, offline sources accepted AGF, no copyvio obvious. Of the hooks, I prefer ALT1, by far. "Possessed" is too ambiguous a word, and that spirit not known (at least to me). I like the description of the ceremony better than labelling her as priestess (ALT2), and ALT3 says nothing more than the obvious: that we didn't know her ;) - In the article, I'd say something about the lead image, such as "depiction". Seems to be someone's dream of her ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:29, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
Barry Green (hunter)
- ... that an Australian wildlife conservationist has trapped and killed over 1,450 feral cats?
Di (they-them) (talk) 01:53, 27 August 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: References were spot-checked for verification; no issues arose. Yue🌙 04:22, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 28
editEniaios
- ... that the ongoing premiere of Gregory Markopoulos's Eniaios started 20 years ago?
- Source: "Since 2004, the work has been revealed two or three cycles at a time, at intervals of four years" [4]
hinnk (talk) 22:57, 30 August 2024 (UTC).
- Length, date, qpq ok. Close paraphrase not found in spot check. But the hook fact need to be directly referenced in the article. --Soman (talk) 21:55, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- It is, in this statement cited to the Artforum article: "Since then [2004], screenings have been planned at Rayi Spartias on a quadrennial basis, with the 2020 screening delayed to 2022 because of the COVID-19 pandemic." hinnk (talk) 23:22, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Understood, but this reference needs to be placed directly after one or more sentences in the article mentioning the quadriannual premiere concept. --Soman (talk) 09:09, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, the reference from the nomination is placed directly after that sentence in the article. hinnk (talk) 10:08, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- The sentences mentioning 'premiere' and '2004' do not have a reference directly afterwards. --Soman (talk) 21:52, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, got it, you were talking about the previous section. I've copied the citation for those three sentences so it also appears right after the premiere date. (Since the lead is summarizing the body, I left it alone consistent with WP:DYKHFC/MOS:LEADCITE). hinnk (talk) 10:18, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't want to be overly pendantic, but screening and premiere are not synonymous. There is nowhere in the article where the explicit statement, "ongoing premiere since 2004" is written clearly apart from lede, it would need to be affirmed somewhere with a reference directly behind it. --Soman (talk) 11:28, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- I've reworded the sentence in the body so it mentions both the 2004 start and the premiere (as supported by the Artforum article). Sorry, I think I've was misreading this as a referencing issue instead of a wording issue, but hopefully this addresses the concern. hinnk (talk) 12:18, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Great, all good --Soman (talk) 16:44, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Awesome, thank you for your patience! hinnk (talk) 07:45, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Great, all good --Soman (talk) 16:44, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- I've reworded the sentence in the body so it mentions both the 2004 start and the premiere (as supported by the Artforum article). Sorry, I think I've was misreading this as a referencing issue instead of a wording issue, but hopefully this addresses the concern. hinnk (talk) 12:18, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't want to be overly pendantic, but screening and premiere are not synonymous. There is nowhere in the article where the explicit statement, "ongoing premiere since 2004" is written clearly apart from lede, it would need to be affirmed somewhere with a reference directly behind it. --Soman (talk) 11:28, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, got it, you were talking about the previous section. I've copied the citation for those three sentences so it also appears right after the premiere date. (Since the lead is summarizing the body, I left it alone consistent with WP:DYKHFC/MOS:LEADCITE). hinnk (talk) 10:18, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- The sentences mentioning 'premiere' and '2004' do not have a reference directly afterwards. --Soman (talk) 21:52, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, the reference from the nomination is placed directly after that sentence in the article. hinnk (talk) 10:08, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Understood, but this reference needs to be placed directly after one or more sentences in the article mentioning the quadriannual premiere concept. --Soman (talk) 09:09, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- It is, in this statement cited to the Artforum article: "Since then [2004], screenings have been planned at Rayi Spartias on a quadrennial basis, with the 2020 screening delayed to 2022 because of the COVID-19 pandemic." hinnk (talk) 23:22, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Kitsap (Suquamish leader)
- ... that in 1825, the Suquamish leader Kitsap led an alliance of tribes stretching from the Columbia River to Puget Sound to stop the Cowichan slave raids wreaking havoc on the Sound?
- Source: Buerge (2017)[5] p.33: "....when the Suquamish chief Kitsap organized a confederacy to meet a threat from the north."
Ibid. p. 41-42: "The most feared were the Cowichan ... Slave raids had led the Cowichan far from their homes in search of human merchandise ... by spreading havoc on the sound, they likely intended to eliminate rivals and make the HBC come to them"
Ibid. p.42: "The confederation Kitsap engineered stretched from central Puget Sound to the Columbia River, and Old Man House was its nexus."
Ibid. p. 43: "The attack likely took place around 1825 ... Kitsap and other Suquamish men took the lead"- Reviewed:
PersusjCP (talk) 16:51, 28 August 2024 (UTC).
- QPQ done: Template:Did_you_know_nominations/Counterintelligence_Group PersusjCP (talk) 16:54, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
Reviewing... Flibirigit (talk) 21:44, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: The article was expanded more than fivefold (2,024 to 12,369 characters) when comparing the pre-expansion version on May 7, 2024, to the nominated version on August 28, 2024. Length and sourcing are adequate. The article appears neutral in tone, and no plagiarism concerns were found. The proposed hook is interesting, but its citation needs some work. As per WP:DYKCRIT, the sentence(s) which support the hooks require citation immediately following. The hooks is supported by several sentences, but not all of them have a citation. No image is included in this nomination, but all images in the article have a free Commons license. The nominator has supplied a QPQ, although it was not required. Overall, the expanded article is a welcome contribution to Wikipedia and needs only minor work for DYK. Flibirigit (talk) 22:09, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- I have added a citation directly after the sentence in the second paragraph. If there is another I missed, please let me know! Thanks! PersusjCP (talk) 22:26, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- I made a couple minor edits to the first paragraph of the "Fight against the Cowichans" section to better source the hook, and added the same wikilinks which appear in the hook. The sourcing is now adequate for approval. Flibirigit (talk) 00:24, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Appreciate it, thanks! PersusjCP (talk) 05:55, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- I made a couple minor edits to the first paragraph of the "Fight against the Cowichans" section to better source the hook, and added the same wikilinks which appear in the hook. The sourcing is now adequate for approval. Flibirigit (talk) 00:24, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Dim Montero
- ... that Dim Montero "could pick up a rock and find an outstanding football prospect"?
- Source: The Morning News
- ALT1: ... that football coach Dim Montero was considered such a great recruiter that it was said he "could pick up a rock and find an outstanding football prospect"? Source: same
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tonya Burns
- Comment: Sorry, I've been distracted with other work and I'm two days late. Wikipedia:Did you know/Guidelines says
The seven-day limit can be extended for a day or two upon request.
BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:27, 6 September 2024 (UTC).
- The article looks good and the hooks are interesting and appear in the sources. No copyvios present or other issues. I think the two-day delay can be excused but we can also get a second opinion through whoever promotes the hook. I'm gonna approve this.--NØ 12:18, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Afrique Victime
- ... that Mdou Moctar's Afrique Victime was also released on Nokia devices (specifically the Nokia 6120) to honor his former albums?
- Source: SRC
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
03:41, 28 August 2024 (UTC).
- GA status confirmed, date is fine. Various GA-related quality aspects confirmed as meeting DYK standards. Still needs a QPQ review. Hook needs improvements; not Nokia devices, but a single device (the article states "In homage to his first albums, which he spread using Bluetooth, he released a collector's edition Nokia 6120 handset."). And while this is not a DYK concern, I think this part of the article should be expanded - how can one spread albums using Bluetooth? How does one include an album in a handset (the source states it was pre-loaded onto a classic handset, which is confusing - what exactly was that item)? If I was a GA reviewer I'd expect this to be addressed (expanded with clarifications in the text). Ping GA reviewer User:Vigilantcosmicpenguin.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:02, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- The "spreading albums using Bluetooth" thing is already explained in the article Mdou Moctar, so I figured it's WP:Summary style to exclude that info from this article. But I agree that the article should be clearer, so tweaked. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 16:12, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- Finished the hook request.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
09:04, 29 August 2024 (UTC) - @Piotrus: Hello?
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
11:57, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Gonzalo Brenes
- ... that composer Gonzalo Brenes was also a politician in the National Assembly of Panama and was for seven years Panama's Secretary of Culture?
- Source: Acevedo Vargas, Jorge Luis (2001). "Brenes (Candanedo), Gonzalo". Grove Music Online. Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/gmo/9781561592630.article.45220.
4meter4 (talk) 21:44, 3 September 2024 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 12:39, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Looks good. AGF on the hook source, which is inaccessible for me. BeanieFan11 (talk) 12:42, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 29
editGreat Salt Lake whale hoax
- ... that in 1888, a sensational story claimed that a British scientist, James Wickham, introduced two whales to the Great Salt Lake in an attempt to start a whale oil industry?
OhHaiMark (talk) 17:09, 29 August 2024 (UTC).
- The hook is interesting and the article is new enough. I'll be checking through the rest of the DYK reqs shortly. ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 00:49, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Article appears to be free from copyvio, and the hook is backed up by a paywalled hook reference that I will AGF. I think the lead of the article could be expanded some before appearing on the Main Page. Once that's done I think it should be good to go! ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 01:05, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- I've touched up the article and expanded the lead as suggested. Thanks for the review, and I believe it's now ready for further consideration. RadicalUranium (talk) 23:34, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Great work, I'll go ahead and approve the article and hook. ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 04:36, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Mccunicano: I'd make sure to use the updated name of the article, Great Salt Lake whale hoax, as the word "myth" appears in this nomination. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:40, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- (Never mind, just updated across the board. Hope that works, it's a fun article title :v) Utopes (talk / cont) 07:51, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Mccunicano: I'd make sure to use the updated name of the article, Great Salt Lake whale hoax, as the word "myth" appears in this nomination. Utopes (talk / cont) 07:40, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Great work, I'll go ahead and approve the article and hook. ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 04:36, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
IMAX Melbourne
- ... that the largest IMAX cinema in the southern hemisphere is in Melbourne?
Mjks28 (talk) 01:03, 29 August 2024 (UTC).
- General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems: - Article was nominated 9 days after being moved to mainspace. The limit is 7 days.
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Overall: Cambalachero (talk) 18:39, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Cambalachero: Per WP:DYKNEW, "The seven-day limit can be extended for a day or two upon request." For a relatively new nominator, I'd take this.--Launchballer 00:04, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
Episode 7921
- ... that Episode 7921 of Neighbours features Australia's first televised same-sex wedding since the country voted in favour of legalising same-sex marriage?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Niall Ó Glacáin
- Comment: Please feel free to tweak the hook or suggest another. Also, if there's any chance this can go up on 3 September that would be great.
JuneGloom07 Talk 02:42, 29 August 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Unfortunately, I doubt this will be ready for mainspace on September 3. Nominations for a specific date should be made at least a week before, September 3 is in just 5 days. Cambalachero (talk) 19:14, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on August 30
editBrittni Mason
- ... that a Paralympic gold medalist originally did not know she qualified for parasports?
- Source: Ligon, Catherine (August 28, 2024). "Brittni Mason had no idea she was eligible for Paralympics. Now she's chasing gold". USA Today. Retrieved 2024-08-30.
Queen of Hearts (talk) 20:10, 30 August 2024 (UTC).
- Article was 5x expanded on August 30, so is new enough. At over 2000 characters, it is long enough. The article is properly referenced with in-line citations. The hook is interesting, short enough, and cited in-line. No copyvio issues noted with Earwig's. The QPQ has been done. Looks good to go! SilverserenC 23:00, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Edmonds Band Rotunda
- ... that Edmonds Band Rotunda (pictured) was deconstructed after the 2011 Christchurch earthquake and was rebuilt in 2021?
―Panamitsu (talk) 07:50, 30 August 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: A bit uninteresting, but looks good. 🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
14:17, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Nice article, I found the fact it was a restaurant to be quite interesting/unique, heritage buildings often get rebuilt but a rotunda serving as a restaurant paints quite an interesting thought in my mind. Traumnovelle (talk) 07:06, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Seconding Traumnovelle, my only comment is that the hook is a bit boring. I think a more interesting one might be something like
...that the small basement of the Edmonds Band Rotunda was once used as a kitchen?
. And thank you for including my photo! David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 20:35, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- This looks more interesting than the hook presented in the nomination.
🍗TheNuggeteer🍗
11:44, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- This looks more interesting than the hook presented in the nomination.
Articles created/expanded on August 31
editDiplodus argenteus
- ... that despite being commonly found off the coast of country, the etymology of Diplodus argenteus' name has nothing to do with Argentina?
- Source: ETYFish Fish name etymology database: https://etyfish.org/acanthuriformes6/
- ALT1 ...that while adult Silver porgies prefer to inhabit the surf zone, juveniles prefer tidepools while sub-adults frequent beds of seagrass? Sources: Wells, V. Carpenter, C. 2011. A Field Guide to Coastal Fishes from Maine to Texas. Baltimore. Johns Hopkins University Press. Robins, C.R. and G.C. Ray, 1986. A field guide to Atlantic coast fishes of North America. Houghton Mifflin Company, Boston, U.S.A. 354 p. Cervigón, F., 1993. Los peces marinos de Venezuela. Volume 2. Fundación Científica Los Roques, Caracas,Venezuela. 497 p.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Huang Shaoqiang
Ryan shell (talk) 19:10, 2 September 2024 (UTC).
- Doing... ミラP@Miraclepine 20:48, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
General eligibility:
- New enough:
- Long enough:
- Other problems:
Policy compliance:
- Adequate sourcing: - I will kindly AGF the offline sources, but many parts of the article is unsourced. Paragraph four has an unsourced statement, and the "Biology" paragraph is unsourced; there’s also one ending in "FAO REF?". Ref 1 doesn't specify it's a "gamefish" beyond vague "if fished incidentally" (which doesn't clarify individual scale nor if it's done commercially or recreationally, especially when next to "commercial importance") nor mention angling. I can't seem to find the 2.5g weight in ref 11.
Ref 16 doesn’t say “the silver porgy is generally standoffish and seldom approaches divers”; while it says “D. argenteus had always been seen in the gulfs”, it doesn’t go beyond only a few year-round divers identifying the species."Or anything to do with Argentina's etymology" seems so OR-y and debatable; both of them come from the same Latin word. - Neutral:
- Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:
- Other problems: - “fairly high probably” should be “fairly high probability”
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Overall: Nom four days after creation and size at 3871. There are several sourcing issues you'll have to fix, as well as a QPQ to provide; see above. Also, it would help if you could provide online links to the refs since it'll make the reviewers' jobs better; I had to find some of them myself with the WP:LIBRARY providing access to some of them, and I’ve linked them in the refs. And please refrain from using redundant sources; I only needed 12/13 to verify one of the claims that also had ref 9 attached. ミラP@Miraclepine 22:13, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- I believe I've fixed most of the more pressing issues around left over annotations and poor sourcing. That said, I recognize that there could be a case to be made for OR and have provided an alternative hook, that I am much more in favor of using. In the coming day's I'll probably delete or rewrite problematic areas as I dig up and cross check source problems. Ryan shell (talk) 02:53, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- The most pressing issue is the missing QPQ. They are due at the time of nomination and if it is still missing a week later, the nomination will be rejected. Schwede66 18:30, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- Just finished QPQ for the nom of Huang Shaoqiang. Not sure if adding it here will suffice or notRyan shell (talk) 20:05, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- Link to review for convenience: Template:Did you know nominations/Huang Shaoqiang. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:38, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Ryan shell: While the ALT1 seems boring, I'm fine with ALT0 because the issue I raised was on being related to Argentina's etymology but not Argentina the country. That said, while the gamefish issue has been fixed - I crossed off the ref 16 issue because I put in the wrong ref, silly me - no other issues have been resolved and the article still has unsourced paragraphs. BTW I'm pretty sure it's more convenient to add the QPQ in the "Reviewed" line. ミラP@Miraclepine 15:25, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- @ミラP Mission citations related to the Biology section and fisheries information has been cited. Uncited issue in paragraph four has also been cited. The 'probably' into 'probability' typo has also been corrected. Ryan shell (talk) 20:35, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Ryan shell: Have checked the sources and I can finally approve ALT0. I'm not sure ALT1 is hooky enough though, and even if it is "silver porgies" should be uncapitalized. ミラP@Miraclepine 21:28, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- @ミラP Mission citations related to the Biology section and fisheries information has been cited. Uncited issue in paragraph four has also been cited. The 'probably' into 'probability' typo has also been corrected. Ryan shell (talk) 20:35, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Ryan shell: While the ALT1 seems boring, I'm fine with ALT0 because the issue I raised was on being related to Argentina's etymology but not Argentina the country. That said, while the gamefish issue has been fixed - I crossed off the ref 16 issue because I put in the wrong ref, silly me - no other issues have been resolved and the article still has unsourced paragraphs. BTW I'm pretty sure it's more convenient to add the QPQ in the "Reviewed" line. ミラP@Miraclepine 15:25, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Just finished QPQ for the nom of Huang Shaoqiang. Not sure if adding it here will suffice or notRyan shell (talk) 20:05, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- The most pressing issue is the missing QPQ. They are due at the time of nomination and if it is still missing a week later, the nomination will be rejected. Schwede66 18:30, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
Trade Fair Palace
- ... that the first art exhibition in the Trade Fair Palace after it was rebuilt from a fire was named Like a phoenix?
- Source: * Sayer, Derek (2021-11-09). Prague, Capital of the Twentieth Century. Princeton University Press. p. 419. ISBN 9781400865444.
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- ALT1: ... that the Trade Fair Palace hosted The Slav Epic decades before it became a gallery? Source: * Sayer, Derek (2021-11-09). Prague, Capital of the Twentieth Century. Princeton University Press. p. 421-424. ISBN 9781400865444.
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: CS1 maint: date and year (link) - ALT2: ... that the Trade Fair Palace had to be rebuilt after experiencing a fire that lasted for six days? Source: "Trade Fair Palace". ngprague.cz. National Gallery Prague. Retrieved 2024-08-31.
- Reviewed:
CitrusHemlock 14:19, 5 September 2024 (UTC).
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- Other problems: - I find ALT0 to be interesting, but I'm not sure on the rest. For ALT1, the reader would have to look up what the Slav Epic is, and for ALT2, this doesn't seem really unusual (either it was rebuilt or it was not).
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Overall: Epicgenius (talk) 13:55, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
Henry Firth
- ... that British conscientious objector Henry Firth died in 1918 while being held at a work camp in Dartmoor?
- Source: "There was only one other death, during the time of the COs at Dartmoor Work Centre, which was completely unrelated to the flu epidemic. This was the death of Henry Firth, which led to the strike in February 1918 when the COs refused to work so that they could accompany his coffin to the station." from: Barker, Pip (30 June 2021). Princetown and the Conscientious Objectors of WW1. Austin Macauley Publishers. pp. 33–34. ISBN 978-1-3984-1981-0.
- ALT1: ... that in 1918 conscientious objectors held at a work camp in Dartmoor, England, went on strike so they could accompany the coffin of Henry Firth to the railway station? Source: "There was only one other death, during the time of the COs at Dartmoor Work Centre, which was completely unrelated to the flu epidemic. This was the death of Henry Firth, which led to the strike in February 1918 when the COs refused to work so that they could accompany his coffin to the station." from: Barker, Pip (30 June 2021). Princetown and the Conscientious Objectors of WW1. Austin Macauley Publishers. pp. 33–34. ISBN 978-1-3984-1981-0.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Shrine of Taharqa
Dumelow (talk) 09:52, 31 August 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, neutral and plagiarism free (there's one long quote that Earwig picked up & I altered 'contingent' to 'group'). Hooks are both cited, personally I think ALT1 is more interesting, but I leave the choice to the promoter. QPQ is done. Lajmmoore (talk) 20:37, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
Deep Cut Gardens
- ... that Deep Cut Gardens in New Jersey contains a stone replica of Mount Vesuvius commissioned by mobster Vito Genovese?
- Source: The Monmouth County Park System: The First Fifty Years - "At Genovese’s request, Caruso built a “Mt. Vesuvius” pseudo-volcano that erupted with smoke during parties."
- ALT1: ... that Deep Cut Gardens in New Jersey contains a stone replica of Mount Vesuvius that once erupted smoke at the behest of mobster Vito Genovese? Source: The Monmouth County Park System: The First Fifty Years - "At Genovese’s request, Caruso built a “Mt. Vesuvius” pseudo-volcano that erupted with smoke during parties."
- ALT2: ... that, at the behest of mobster Vito Genovese, Deep Cut Gardens in New Jersey contains a stone replica of Mount Vesuvius that once erupted smoke? Source: The Monmouth County Park System: The First Fifty Years - "At Genovese’s request, Caruso built a “Mt. Vesuvius” pseudo-volcano that erupted with smoke during parties."
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FossilDS (talk) 03:24, 31 August 2024 (UTC).
- Article length is fine, article is recently created, Earwig shows no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, article appears to be reliably sourced.
I think I prefer the shorter hook (might suggest an ALT for the second one)Have suggested a revised hook. Paul W (talk) 10:44, 2 September 2024 (UTC) - I'm fine with the revised hook (ALT2). Thank you for the review! FossilDS (talk) 16:24, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 1
editSvayamvara
- ... that in ancient Indian literature, princesses would select their husbands from a lineup of suitors or through public contests in the distinctive matrimonial tradition called Svayamvara (pictured)?
- Source: A Dictionary of Hinduism, Oxford Publications "For the daughter of a royal or a kṣatriya family, a way of selecting a husband which takes the form of either of a public contest between her suitors, or an assembly at which the bride-to-be simply chooses between them. Perhaps the best-known instances occur in the Mahābhārata, where Arjuna wins Draupadī by this method, and Damayantī prefers Nala to any of the assembled gods."
- Brockington, John L (2006). "Epic Svayaṃvaras, Voice of the Orient: a Tribute to Prof. Upendranath Dhal". Academia.edu: 35–42.
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Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 06:05, 3 September 2024 (UTC).
- : Seems new and long enough, almost entirely written by nominator; I have a few very minor problems with the sourcing that I think can be resolved by just copying some nearby sources, which I tagged: specifically, I think there should be a citation for the 1st paragraph of "Svayamvara in the Rg Veda" and one place in the 1st paragraph of "Damayantī's Svayamvara". Also, I think it would be more clear if the source at the end of the last paragraph of the lead were duplicated to the first two paragraphs as well if it applies to them, and per the DYK guidelines, I think that the source given has to be present at the end of the sentence giving the claim present in the hook. Don't see any neutrality issues. Article is (listing criteria) presentable, image & hook seem good, no other complaints. As for copyvio, not sure what the standards are on manual "spot-checks", so I'm leaving that for a second reviewer. Mrfoogles (talk) 04:59, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- @User:Mrfoogles, done what you have suggested.Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 06:23, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Citation problems seem resolved, all that's left is a copyright check. Mrfoogles (talk) 16:53, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Mrfoogles: Have you completed the copyright check, and is this approved? If not, what else needs to be done? Z1720 (talk) 14:39, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- I was hoping someone else would also double-check my copyright checking (which is done, but I’m new), but that doesn’t seem to be happening anytime soon, so I’ll approve it. Mrfoogles (talk) 14:52, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Mrfoogles: Is the review completed?Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 18:26, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- The green check in the circle means yes (it's a special DYK one that means it was accepted). Mrfoogles (talk) 18:34, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Mrfoogles: Is the review completed?Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 18:26, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- I was hoping someone else would also double-check my copyright checking (which is done, but I’m new), but that doesn’t seem to be happening anytime soon, so I’ll approve it. Mrfoogles (talk) 14:52, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Citation problems seem resolved, all that's left is a copyright check. Mrfoogles (talk) 16:53, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- @User:Mrfoogles, done what you have suggested.Seyamar(245CMR)💬📜 06:23, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
Joan McIntyre (activist)
- ... that activist Joan McIntyre left Friends of the Earth to start her own organization focused on stopping the whaling activities of Japan and Russia?
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Brittni Mason
- Comment: Article was moved from draftspace to mainspace with this edit.
SilverserenC 23:05, 1 September 2024 (UTC).
- Silver seren (talk · contribs) and Thriley (talk · contribs), I verified that the article is long enough and that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking.
Regarding the hook, "Joan And The Whales" says, "She had been special projects coordinator of Friends of the Earth ...". I will take this as verifying that she left Friends of the Earth to start her own organization.
I checked the Wikipedia article and could not find where it says "left Friends of the Earth to start her own organization". Would you add this to the Wikipedia article or quote the text where it says this in case I missed it? Thank you, Cunard (talk) 09:27, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- I've added that additional note to the sentence about her forming Project Jonah. Good clarification! Thanks, Cunard. SilverserenC 22:07, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
- verified, thank you! Cunard (talk) 07:39, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- I've added that additional note to the sentence about her forming Project Jonah. Good clarification! Thanks, Cunard. SilverserenC 22:07, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
WCCN, Wisconsin Pavilion
- ... that the owner of two Wisconsin radio stations put a 16-foot (4.9 m) cow outside the Wisconsin Pavilion (pictured)? Source: https://newspapers.com/article/marshfield-news-herald-giant-holstein/154384862/
- ALT1: ... that two Wisconsin radio stations purchased and reassembled the Wisconsin Pavilion (pictured) from the 1964 New York World's Fair for use as their studios? Source: http://www-newspapers-c.m.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/article/marshfield-news-herald-clark-county-pav/154384084/
- Reviewed: The Life Eaters and Rico Krieger
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Overall: I prefer ALT1; not sure the first hook is interesting enough. Important question - I'm not sure if the expansion of the radio station article suffices, as it appears to incorporate through merger what was in another article. A second set of eyes on that issue, or explanation by the nom, would be helpful. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:587E:4EDE:255:173E (talk) 22:16, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- I can't ping. There is a merger, but neither page had substantial material. WCCN (AM) had 245 characters. WCCN-FM had 515 characters. 245 + 515 = 760. The current page size is 4482 characters, where the combined 5x of both pages would be 3800. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 22:18, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- That works. Good to go. I still prefer ALT1, and I am not sure that the first hook is interesting enough. Nice work.2603:7000:2101:AA00:D919:443A:176C:AE5B (talk) 03:57, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- I can't ping. There is a merger, but neither page had substantial material. WCCN (AM) had 245 characters. WCCN-FM had 515 characters. 245 + 515 = 760. The current page size is 4482 characters, where the combined 5x of both pages would be 3800. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 22:18, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 2
editMyvanwy Rhys
... that Oxford suffragist Myvanwy Rhys presented a bouquet of irises to Millicent Fawcett at the Royal Albert Hall? Source: "She was one of the delegation who carried the OWSS banner to London in 1908, and presented a bouquet of irises to Millicent Fawcett at the Albert Hall." https://www.firstwomenatoxford.ox.ac.uk/sites/default/files/owcah/documents/media/oxford_suffrage_women_.pdf (p.11 in pdf reader)
Lajmmoore (talk) 20:46, 3 September 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Thank you for nominating this interesting and worthy entry! If I could make one general recommendation for making this important topic more accessible to the non-specialist reader, I think regardless of the hook, the entry could benefit from a few words explaining who Fawcett was, and likewise to explain what the Bangor dispute was (currently it’s a bit mysterious). As to the hook, I wonder if it would be more interesting to say something like:
- ALT1 ... that Oxford suffragist Myvanwy Rhys earned first-class honours from Newnham College, Cambridge, but was denied a degree?
Tell me what you think. Innisfree987 (talk) 05:34, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks so much Innisfree987 - these are all great points. I hope @Manxshearwater: can expand the points in the article. As for the ALT - I think that's much better, thank you for coming up with it, I've scratched the top one Lajmmoore (talk) 06:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Wonderful! @Manxshearwater: maybe you could just ping me once you’ve had a chance to look and then I’ll tick off the nomination? It doesn’t need to be anything elaborate, just another half sentence’s explanation would be plenty I think—I’m almost tempted to do it myself but it would be much better if someone familiar with the topic did! Thank you both, I enjoyed learning about Rhys! Innisfree987 (talk) 06:49, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Innisfree987: @Lajmmoore: Thanks, great points and I have added some info on Fawcett and on the Bangor dispute so hopefully that helps! Happy with the nomination and I think the alt hook is great. Glad you enjoyed learning about her too! Manxshearwater (talk) 10:32, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you both for such quick responses—good to go! Innisfree987 (talk) 17:19, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Innisfree987: It looks like the DYK bot didn't pick up the approved green tick. If it is approved, please re-add it below, using this code: {{subst:DYKyes}}. Z1720 (talk) 00:54, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oh that’s strange. Ok I’m going to sign here but add the tick again on the next line, hope it’ll work this time. Innisfree987 (talk) 06:06, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks so much Innisfree987 - these are all great points. I hope @Manxshearwater: can expand the points in the article. As for the ALT - I think that's much better, thank you for coming up with it, I've scratched the top one Lajmmoore (talk) 06:28, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
Wigwam (Welsh band)
- ... that Wigwam (pictured) formed four days before their first concert?
- Source: Y Selar, issue 54 (August 2018), page 11 - "Nathon ni ffurfio pedwar diwrnod cyn ein gig cyntaf achos odd angen band arall i chwara' set [...] yng Nghlwb Ifor Bach blwyddyn dwetha." ("We formed four days before our first gig because another band was needed to play a set [...] in Clwb Ifor Bach last year.")
- ALT1: ... that Wigwam (pictured) only formed to play a single concert, but have been performing together for seven years? Source: Same source as ALT0 ("last year" in that context is 2017, so it's been seven years) + "Drymiwr Wigwam yn bencampwr dawnsio’r byd" - "I ddechrau, jyst i wneud one-off gig oedd o. [...] Gwnaethon ni benderfynu cario ymlaen, dal ati gydag ymarfer, wedyn gwnaethon ni ddechrau ysgrifennu cerddoriaeth efo’n gilydd. Erbyn hyn, rydym wedi rhyddhau albwm a phedair sengl." ("At the start, it was just to do a one-off gig. [...] We decided to carry on, kept practicing, then we started writing music together. By now, we've released an album and four singles.")
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ron Tiavaasue
Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 23:10, 2 September 2024 (UTC).
- The article was long enough and new enough at the time of the nomination. I did not find any close paraphrasing, and the article is properly sourced. I am assuming good faith for the sources as they are in Welsh, although for DYK purposes the provided translations above should be fine. A QPQ has been done. I'm approving only the original hook as it's shorter, snappier, and probably more intriguing. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:56, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Thank you for the review! But I'm not sure why you've specifically approved only one hook when there's nothing actually wrong with the other one - surely it's up to the prep builders to choose which hook is more interesting. (I say this because I think ALT1 is a little more interesting personally, and is in a pretty common hook style.) Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 15:30, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- While I thought ALT1 was also a surprising and interesting hook, I thought the fact about them being formed four days before the gig, as opposed to simply being intended to be a one-time thing, was more unusual and eye-catching. In addition, it's also a shorter hook and arguably punchier. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:56, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: Thank you for the review! But I'm not sure why you've specifically approved only one hook when there's nothing actually wrong with the other one - surely it's up to the prep builders to choose which hook is more interesting. (I say this because I think ALT1 is a little more interesting personally, and is in a pretty common hook style.) Suntooooth, it/he (talk/contribs) 15:30, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 3
editHymenophyllum axsmithii
- ... that the filmy fern Hymenophyllum axsmithii was suggested to be closer in relation to a neotropical species group and not a local native species?
- Source: Pigg et al (2001) page 804 "Similarly, the new record of Hymenophyllum axsmithii as a member of subgenus Sphaerocionium and morphologic similarities to extant epiphytic humid tropical montane forest species of Sphaerocionium highlight climatic and biogeographical linkages between the early Eocene Okanogan Highlands of the Pacific Northwest of North America and the Neotropics. ...the family in the region, which today hosts a single species, Hymenophyllum wrightii" (in a different subgenus per Chang et al 2022 " Subgenus Mecodium"
- ALT1: ... that researchers want Hymenophyllum axsmithii rhizomes so they can tell if the filmy fern was up a tree? Source: Pigg et al (2021) page 803 "Currently, the fossil record for Hymenophyllaceae reviewed in this article is not sufficiently robust, particularly with respect to critical features of the rhizome, to establish the presence of an epiphytic growth form. ... Clearly, finding additional fossil representatives of Hymenophyllaceae with rhizomes will be essential for documenting the origin and evolution of the epiphytic growth habit within this family.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Strobilanthes tonkinensis
Kevmin § 20:21, 3 September 2024 (UTC).
- For ALT1 since it is probably more interesting to the average person than ALT0. I would recommend linking "rhizomes" in the hook. PrimalMustelid (talk) 22:41, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Yang Pao-an
- ... that Yang Pao'an (pictured) held several roles in the Kuomintang, but was executed by the party?
- Source: Meng, Hong (24 May 2021). "杨匏安:对党"公忠不可忘"的先驱" [Yang Pao-an: A Pioneer Who Was "Unforgettable in His Loyalty to the Party"]. People's Daily (in Chinese). Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party. Archived from the original on 3 September 2024. Retrieved 3 September 2024.
- ALT1: ... that the Chinese communist Yang Pao'an (pictured) drew from Japanese thought? Source: Meng, Hong (24 May 2021). "杨匏安:对党"公忠不可忘"的先驱" [Yang Pao-an: A Pioneer Who Was "Unforgettable in His Loyalty to the Party"]. People's Daily (in Chinese). Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party. Archived from the original on 3 September 2024. Retrieved 3 September 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Ani ni Aisaresugite Komattemasu
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:01, 3 September 2024 (UTC).
- Please note that there is currently a move request on the talk page. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:23, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
- Move request has closed. Article should be okay. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 09:44, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: @Crisco 1492: Hi Chris! Overall, this is a well-sourced and well-written article. It was submitted on the day it was created, so it is new enough. Earwig also shows that the article is copyvio free. However, I have some concerns about the hook. I do not find it particularly interesting, and the reason for Yang's execution is not clearly conveyed. The People's Daily source cited in this nomination mentions that Chiang Kai-shek personally called Yang before ordering his execution, which is a much clearer and more interesting detail for a hook in my opinion. But this is just a suggestion for possible amendments to the hook, and it is not compulsory. If the nominator prefers to keep the current hook, that is perfectly fine with me as well. —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 14:39, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Prince of Erebor. That tidbit is mentioned in several of the sources. However, given that they are all state media, and their likelihood of being non-neutral in detailing Chiang Kai-shek, I'm a bit iffy reporting it as objective fact (I think at least one mentions that he basically threw the phone in response). I can add a few lines making it clear that this comes from a state source, then we can do an ALT. Let me revisit the sources. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:04, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2 ... that Chiang Kai-shek was reported to have ordered the execution of Yang Pao'an (pictured) after the latter threw a phone against a wall?
- ALT3 ... that Yang Pao'an (pictured) refused to forsake the Chinese Communist Party, reportedly even after a personal telephone call from generalissimo Chiang Kai-shek?
- Here are two ALTs, both cited to: Meng, Hong (24 May 2021). "杨匏安:对党"公忠不可忘"的先驱" [Yang Pao'an: A Pioneer Who Was "Unforgettable in His Loyalty to the Party"]. People's Daily (in Chinese). Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party. Archived from the original on 3 September 2024. Retrieved 3 September 2024. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:16, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Crisco 1492: Thanks for your swift reply and update! It is true that state media should not be taken at face value, but it appears that all the other sources cited in the Later years and death section, such as China Daily and The Paper, are also state-owned, leaving us with limited options. Perhaps we could consider ALT3, as it seems to address concerns about neutrality and skepticism regarding the details of the supposed private conversation between Chiang and Yang?
- I think it is ready to go now! —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 17:49, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks! Sounds good to me. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 17:53, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Wuhan trolleybus route 1
- ... that Wuhan trolleybus route 1 (pictured) was described as "a specialty of Wuhan", and "visitors had to ride the route to appreciate the uniqueness of the city"?
- Source: Zhou, Zhangliang; Liu, Yang (2020-12-22). "搭乘1路电车,穿越武汉62年". cnhubei.com. Retrieved 2024-09-03.
- ALT1: ... that Wuhan trolleybus route 1 circled around a statue of Sun Yat-sen for nearly 65 years? Source: "父辈的"铜人像"——六渡桥铜人像". Xinhai Revolution Net. 2023-12-26. Retrieved 2024-09-03.
- ALT2: ... that the opening of Wuhan trolleybus route 1 was described by a local newspaper as "the start of electrification for Wuhan's public transport industry"? Source: Ronghua Street Office of the People's Government of Qiaokou District, Wuhan (2019). 荣华街志 (in Chinese (China)). Wuhan: Wuhan Publishing House. ISBN 978-7-5582-3398-2.
- ALT3: ... that when Wuhan trolleybus route 1 first started operations, foreign visitors apart from locals had also sought to buy tickets to ride the trolleybus line? Source: Zhou, Zhangliang; Liu, Yang (2020-12-22). "搭乘1路电车,穿越武汉62年". cnhubei.com. Retrieved 2024-09-03.
- ALT4: ... that the establishment of a trolleybus route in Wuhan was due to the general public's perception of communism at the time? Source: Tian, Lianshen (2020-12-01). "武汉公交故事 ▏后城马路的电车梦". Weixin Official Accounts Platform. Retrieved 2024-09-03.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Passenger (Boschwitz novel)
S5A-0043Talk 04:25, 3 September 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Approving ALT0 and ALT3. ALT1 is interesting, but I think the hook might give the impression that the trolleybus was continually circling around the statue, when in fact it was used only as a bus turnaround. ALT2 doesn't sound too interesting; this is a given if it was the first-ever trolleybus route in Wuhan. ALT4 might be too niche because it requires readers to actively make the association between electrification and communism. Epicgenius (talk) 23:21, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 4
editTonia Ko
- ... that Tonia Ko once composed a three-part concerto played on bubble wrap? Source: During her 2024 residency, Ko completed an arrangement of her bubble wrap concerto Breath, Contained III + This overall ongoing project is entitled Breath, Contained as I attempt to release the ‘voice’ of this mundane object without popping (well, only on rare occasions…) ... Breath Contained I, II, and III are works created for increasingly large forces.
ミラP@Miraclepine 17:10, 9 September 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: The sources used look self-published or at a minimum least defer editorial control to Tonia Ko on these pages. Uncertain if they meet the criteria of WP:RS or if because there are otherwise no issues with the article they are usable by WP:ABOUTSELF. I checked the major sources and didn't find anything that could be construed as close paraphrasing; besides the few things that couldn't easily be said any other way ("born in Hong Kong and raised in Honolulu"). I brought up issue with the provenance of sources but if this is not an issue please forgive me as I am very new to DYK. I have no other comments. Reconrabbit 19:19, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Reconrabbit: As a frequent creator of academic biographies, I'm pretty sure the sources in question are reliable for basic facts (her own site included) and I don't think there are any ABOUTSELF issues, especially when the affiliated institutions are non-profits (especially the educational ones). Further, I added more secondary sources to be safe. ミラP@Miraclepine 18:05, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Miraclepine: I wasn't aware of the nonprofit situation. Overall it looks like a fine hook and the basis for the statement isn't disputed. The addition of secondary sources is of course appreciated. I support this nomination. Reconrabbit 18:28, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Mike Veeck
- ... that Mike Veeck's baseball promotions include Disco Demolition Night, a game with no fans, and the world's largest pillow fight?
– Muboshgu (talk) 20:23, 6 September 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Thank you for this entertaining entry! Great piece of pop culture to record. I made a pair of minor copy edits for clarification in the first paragraph under career, to specify which Veeck you were talking about and that Anti-Disco Night and Disco Demolition Night were the same thing, but please revise if I’ve misunderstood anything. Once the DOB is sorted, I think you’ll be good to go! Innisfree987 (talk) 07:47, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, Innisfree987, birthdate is now sourced inline.[6] – Muboshgu (talk) 17:11, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- Great thanks for the quick add! All set. Innisfree987 (talk) 20:45, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, Innisfree987, birthdate is now sourced inline.[6] – Muboshgu (talk) 17:11, 7 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 5
editDes Moines speech
- ... that Anne Morrow Lindbergh predicted the backlash that her husband Charles Lindbergh's antisemitic Des Moines speech would receive and tried to warn him about it? Source: Lynne Olson, Those Angry Days: Roosevelt, Lindbergh, and America's Fight Over World War II, 1939-1941 (Random House, 2013), 379:
Anne told Lindbergh that his remarks would be interpreted as "Jew-baiting"
[...]she asserted, his speech was 'at best unconsciously a bid for anti-Semitism"
; Susan Dun,, 1940: FDR, Willkie, Lindbergh, Hitler—the Election amid the Storm (Yale University Press, 2013), 301–303:Across the country newspapers, columnists, politicians, and religious leaders lashed out at Lindbergh for sinning "against the American spirit", as the New York Herald Tribune put it. "The voice is the voice of Lindbergh, but the words are the words of Hitler", wrote the San Francisco Chronicle
- Reviewed: Talk:Vladimir_Zitta#Did_you_know_nomination
- Comment: Vladimir Zitta was the 1st article of a 5 article hook. It would be nice to get to run this on the upcoming anniversary, September 11, but I didn't finish this as soon as I wanted to and I understand that'd be a tight turnaround.
Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 07:36, 5 September 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Looks good Andre🚐 01:00, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
Abramo Colorni
- ... that a 1593 work by an Italian-Jewish engineer and polymath might have inspired Joyce's Ulysses?
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Overall: Approved w/o image (t · c) buidhe 13:46, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 6
editTempered chocolate
- ... that researchers speculate cocoa butter forms crystals on sugar while chocolate is tempered?
- Source: Pirouzian et al. (2020), pg. 2: "The addition of the sugar particles promoted the formation of polymorphs with lower melting points. It was suggested that the sugar acted as a heterogeneous nucleation agent, prolonging the nucleation and growth of cocoa butter crystals since foreign surfaces acted as nucleation sites for crystallization"
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Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 11:05, 6 September 2024 (UTC).
- Starting review RoySmith (talk) 00:48, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Article is long enough and new enough.
- QPQ exempt.
- Earwig is unable to perform an analysis. I googled a random selection of phrases and didn't find anything, so I'm going to AGF on copyvios.
- All the sources appear to be reliable.
- DYK doesn't impose any minimum prose quality, but I find some parts of the prose confusing enough that I'm thinking a trip through WP:GOCE might be a good idea. For example, in
It is more difficult to temper milk chocolate
, the word "more" implies a comparison. So this should say "... than something else". But the real issue is the next paragraph, which is the one which directly supports the hook fact.Sugar lowers the melting point of crystal structures, as they are theorized to act as nuclei
. What is "they"? I think what this is supposed to say is "... as sugar molecules are theorized to act as crystallization nuclei", but it's really not clear.The addition of lecithin somewhat slowed the rate at which the reaction began
What reaction? The crystallization of the cocoa butter? And why is "slowed" in past tense? This isn't just nit-picking about grammar; it's confusing enough that it's hard to be sure if it really does support the hook. RoySmith (talk) 01:11, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi RoySmith, thanks for taking a look at this. Apologies that my prose was quite poor, I've given it what I hope is a thorough copyedit. If it's still unclear, I can take it through WP:GOCE. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 02:00, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the quick response, looks good now. RoySmith (talk) 02:08, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi RoySmith, thanks for taking a look at this. Apologies that my prose was quite poor, I've given it what I hope is a thorough copyedit. If it's still unclear, I can take it through WP:GOCE. Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 02:00, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
KGWD
- ... that a South Dakota radio station went from a university to "Guns, Gold & Rock 'n' Roll"? Source: https://radioinsight.com/headlines/93148/station-sales-week-of-may-29/
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 04:51, 6 September 2024 (UTC).
- new enough, long enough, no copyvio issues. It took me a second to figure out what the hook was trying to say but it's not inaccurate in any way. Interesting (to me at least), supported by source. Good to go. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:39, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 7
editTeleke Lauti
- ... that politician Teleke Lauti unseated a former Prime Minister with a campaign managed by a former Prime Minister?
- Source: Islands Business / TuvaluIslands.com (defeated Kamuta Latasi; campaign was run by his uncle, former Prime Minister Toaripi Lauti)
- ALT1: ... that politician Teleke Lauti unseated a former Prime Minister, was unseated himself by a future Prime Minister, and later ran again to replace a former Prime Minister? Source: same for 'unseated a former Prime Minister'; lost to Latasi and Kausea Natano (future PM) in 2002 (could add another source verifying Natano as being a future PM if needed); Fenui News for running to replace a former PM (Latasi in 2018)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Edward J. York
- Comment: Open to other ways of wording. Would like it if it could be featured by the end of the month, prior to the end of the Wikipedia:2024 Developing Countries WikiContest (since I'm competing with the Tuvalu flag).
BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:02, 10 September 2024 (UTC).
- New enough, long enough, QPQ done. We're treading around describing the political system slightly, but it can be pieced together. A source is needed in the article for the future PM part. Work on climate change should be mentioned in the lead. He may have been assistant Minsiter(?) but that may all need a deeper investigation. CMD (talk) 07:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: I added a source for the future PM and expanded the lead a little to mention climate change. As for assistant minister, that source does seem to say that but then there are also several sources referring to him as "Teleke Lauti, Minister for the Environment" (including another UN publication) – he's so obscure, its hard to tell. I'm leaning towards keeping 'Minister for the Environment' though as there seems to be more sources saying that than 'Assistant Minister for the Environment'. Is that everything? BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:51, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- That feels like everything. Hard to call a Minister of the Environment obscure though! CMD (talk) 16:00, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: I added a source for the future PM and expanded the lead a little to mention climate change. As for assistant minister, that source does seem to say that but then there are also several sources referring to him as "Teleke Lauti, Minister for the Environment" (including another UN publication) – he's so obscure, its hard to tell. I'm leaning towards keeping 'Minister for the Environment' though as there seems to be more sources saying that than 'Assistant Minister for the Environment'. Is that everything? BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:51, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Cathy Merrick
- ... that Cathy Merrick (pictured) was the first woman elected Grand Chief of the Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs?
- Source: "A woman will lead the Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs for the first time in its nearly 35-year history." "Cathy Merrick elected as 1st woman to lead Assembly of Manitoba Chiefs". CBC News. Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. The Canadian Press. October 26, 2022.
- ALT1: ... that Grand Chief Cathy Merrick (pictured) is the sixth person and first woman to lie in state at the Manitoba Legislature? Source: "On Wednesday, Merrick's body will be taken to the Manitoba Legislature, where it will lie in state. She will be the first woman given the honour, and the first person to lie in state at the legislature since 2013." "Lying in state is a rare honour in Manitoba. Five others have preceded Merrick, a provincial spokesperson told CBC" "Dignitaries, public sign book of condolences for Cathy Merrick at Manitoba Legislature". CBC News. Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. CBC News. September 10, 2024. Retrieved September 11, 2024.
- Reviewed: Kuomintang Building (Vancouver)
- Comment: Thank you so much to the reviewer for their time in advance!
I'll work on the QPQ later today hopefully.Done!
Ornithoptera (talk) 21:13, 11 September 2024 (UTC).
- New enough (submitted within four days of creation), long enough (8,654 characters). Well sourced with inline citations; written neutrally. Earwig flags up a "violation possible" with a high percentage of similarity, but this turns out to be due to the large number of memorial quotes which are properly attributed; personally I think there are too many of those memorial quotes for an encyclopedia article (it's an encyclopedia article, not an obituary), but not a deal breaker for DYK. (The other copy fix I would recommend is to find alternative wording for "she was heavily involved following the 2022 Winnipeg serial killings", which doesn't sound good.) QPQ is done. The hooks are both interesting and verified by the sources provided...but a tiny gotcha is that the "first woman" part referenced in ALT1 is actually not mentioned within the actual article. Fix that issue within the article and this is a pass. Thanks for creating the article. Cielquiparle (talk) 11:37, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Cielquiparle, thank you for taking the time to read through the article! I have addressed the ALT1 issue, as well as reworded the Winnipeg serial killings part of her article. I hope this can address your concerns properly. Ornithoptera (talk) 23:36, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Approved both ALT0 and ALT1. Cielquiparle (talk) 05:16, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 8
editSpearfishing at the Micronesian Games
- ... that spearfishing at the Micronesian Games in 2014 was controversial because a fish that was caught was mutilated by a shark?
Sahaib (talk) 18:52, 8 September 2024 (UTC).
- QPQ needed @Sahaib:. Also, assuming "websites.mygameday.app" is reliable, proposing ALT1: ... that a shark cost a competitor a silver medal in the spearfishing event at the 2014 Micronesian Games?--Launchballer 19:05, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Launchballer: QPQ done, also source appears to be reliable as it cites Alana Christensen of "United Youth Media" and has a picture. Sahaib (talk) 19:20, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed.--Launchballer 19:25, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Article is new enough and long enough, with detailed sources. Text is neutral and plagiarism free. Hook is cited and interesting, ALT1 preferred. QPQ is done. I hesitate to give it a green light as there are a couple of parts of the article that would benefit from some clarification - marked with when and why. Once they are sorted, good to go. Lajmmoore (talk) 18:09, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Lajmmoore: done. Sahaib (talk) 18:59, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you! Lajmmoore (talk) 21:11, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
Uzun-Hajji, Najmuddin of Gotzo
- ... that although Uzun-Hajji and Najmuddin of Gotzo (pictured) were originally political allies, they later fought on opposing sides of the Russian Civil War?
- Source: Reynolds, Michael A. (2008). "Native Sons: Post-Imperial Politics, Islam, and Identity in the North Caucasus, 1917-1918". Jahrbücher für Geschichte Osteuropas. 56 (2): 221–247 – via JSTOR., pp. 223–224 (on their status as political allies); Donogo, M. M. (2008a). "Н. Гоцинский и повстанческая борьба в Дагестане и Чечне (1922-1925 гг.)" [N. Gotsinsky and the insurgent battle in Dagestan and Chechnya (1922–1925)]. New Historical Periodical: 135–138 – via Cyberleninka., p. 136 (on their fight on opposing sides)
- ALT1: ... that after Najmuddin of Gotzo was denied the title of imam, Uzun-Hajji left public life to live in the mountains of Chechnya? Source: Lobanov, Vladimir (2013). "История антибольшевистского движения на Северном Кавказе" [History of the Anti-Bolshevik Movement in the North Caucasus]. Poltorak (in Russian) – via Academia.edu. pp. 167–185
- Reviewed:
Mupper-san (talk) 09:50, 8 September 2024 (UTC).
- Length of both articles ok. Date perhaps such have bee 6 Sep, but ok. No close paraphrase found. Image free on Commons. I prefer the original hook, but don't see sentences in article (directly referenced) clearly stating the fact. The articles need some editing, sentence such as "He died shortly after, and the" appears incomplete. Also, is the Arabic script names correct? I know nothing about Arabic script use in North Caucasus, but نازمودن is not Najmuddin in Arabic. --Soman (talk) 14:10, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Soman:, I'm not quite sure if it would be written with the same letters as Arabic or if it would be written in the same style as Cyrillic/Latin-script forms of Avar. I wouldn't have any bias towards changing the spelling of Najmuddin in Arabic-script Avar to the Arabic form. The problem of an incomplete sentence has been fixed, as was a spelling error in the body. Mupper-san (talk) 21:18, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- Well, I learnt something new today. Usually non-Arabic languages retain Arabic spellings of Islamic names when using Arabic scripts. But I now understand that the spellings in Avar with Arabic differ from Arabic (I note the spelling of Rasul here for example). I also now find the hook fact in each other articles, --Soman (talk) 22:45, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Soman:, I'm not quite sure if it would be written with the same letters as Arabic or if it would be written in the same style as Cyrillic/Latin-script forms of Avar. I wouldn't have any bias towards changing the spelling of Najmuddin in Arabic-script Avar to the Arabic form. The problem of an incomplete sentence has been fixed, as was a spelling error in the body. Mupper-san (talk) 21:18, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 9
editCatharina Weiss
- ... that Catharina Weiss (pictured) used to play for Rolling Chocolate? Source: https://www.cannstatter-zeitung.de/inhalt.die-18-jaehrige-rollstuhlbasketballerin-gewann-im-sommer-wm-bronze-catharina-weiss-s-grosser-wurf.8363bb42-1597-463c-85fb-79e8baa49aae.html
Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:22, 9 September 2024 (UTC).
- Intriguing hook, although the only mention in the article for chocolate is "the Rolling Chocolate in Heidelburg", which a) isn't the same thing unless you have another source saying they're sometimes called that for short and b) lacks an end-of-sentence citation.--Launchballer 20:29, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Hawkeye7: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 14:42, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Added a redundant citation at end of sentence and tweaked the hook slightly. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:05, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Hawkeye7: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 14:42, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed. You are welcome to take up the otiosity of that rule at WT:DYK in the interim.--Launchballer 18:32, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Hawkeye7, review follows: article created 4 September (and nominated 5 days later) and exceeds minimum length; article is cited inline throughout with two exceptions: that her current team is "RSV Lahn-Dill" and that her disability class is "1.0" (both mentioned in the infobox and the disability class in the lead only); please can you cite these? The English language sources look to be reliable for the content cited, happy to AGF on the foreign language ones; I didn't pick up on any issue with overly close paraphrasing; image is good and properly licensed; hook is fine and loosk to check out to the German-language source (a Google search appears to confirm the team is referred to simply as "Rolling Chocolate" elsewhere); a QPQ has been carried out. If you can address the two minor citations needed this should be good to go - Dumelow (talk) 17:44, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Full review needed. You are welcome to take up the otiosity of that rule at WT:DYK in the interim.--Launchballer 18:32, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Added a bit more to cover this. She has left RSV Lahn-Dill but I have let this stand as she is yet to join a new club. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:04, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Looks good to me - Dumelow (talk) 06:16, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
Santa (singer)
- ... that Santa (pictured) opened the 2024 Summer Paralympics closing ceremony? Source: https://olympics.com/en/news/paralympic-games-paris-2024-closing-ceremony-music-flame
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/The Hooded Man, Template:Did you know nominations/Milkie Way
- Comment: Double-barrel nom: 2024 Summer Paralympics closing ceremony 5x expanded 2x QPQ supplied
Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:04, 9 September 2024 (UTC).
- @Hawkeye7: Not a review, but that image doesn't meet WP:DYKIMG. I suggest cropping it.--Launchballer 17:21, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Hawkeye7: Nice article. It was nominated in time and meets the character count requirement. The hook is interesting given the singer's name. There is an excessive citations banner and the image issue highlighted by Launchballer above that need to be resolved.--NØ 11:53, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- May I remind you that removing a tag without remedying the underlying issue does not count @Hawkeye7:. Per WP:CLUMP, if more than three references really are necessary, they should be bundled.--Launchballer 19:02, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- May I remind you that changing the referencing style of an article violates our MOS:RETAIN guideline and is blockable offence. Whereas Template:Clump seeks to enforce Wikipedia:Citation overkill which it is nothing more than an essay, with no community consensus. For this reason Template:Clump is not on the list of DYK dispute tags at Wikipedia:Template index/Disputes and therefore does not fall under WP:DYKTAG. Since it is neither a dispute tag nor has any authority, I am free to ignore what the template documentation it says and enforce our editing guideline by removing it. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:23, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- May I remind you that removing a tag without remedying the underlying issue does not count @Hawkeye7:. Per WP:CLUMP, if more than three references really are necessary, they should be bundled.--Launchballer 19:02, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- MOS:RETAIN refers to varieties of English and does not mention references, though my concern has been resolved anyway. (There's surely no need for two {{DYK nompage links}} on this page?)--Launchballer 20:27, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- The Image looks fine to me, but created a second version. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 19:23, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- My problem with the original image is that it does not display well at {{main page image/DYK}}, though the original is significantly better. I'll let a prepbuilder make the decision. I think this is good to go, but pinging @MaranoFan: just in case.--Launchballer 20:27, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Engelbrecht !Nawatiseb
- ... that Engel Nawatiseb left the Landless People's Movement only one month after joining?
- Source: "Former Deputy Minister of Information and Communication Technology Engel Nawatiseb has parted ways with the Landless People’s Movement (LPM) after joining the party a mere month ago." -[7]
- ALT1: ... that Engel Nawatiseb left the Landless People's Movement due to disagreements about who should drive during the party's fifth anniversary celebration? Source: "The source further claimed that these party members felt threatened by Nawatiseb’s position in the party. “People felt why is it only Nawatiseb driving the car and not them?” the source said. Following the complaints, the party allegedly took the car from Nawatiseb.", and "Another party source said Nawatiseb was insulted by a powerful young leader in the party about the usage of the car. “Apparently he wasn’t sharing the car with others. But once a car is assigned to you, it’s difficult to share, because once it is broken it becomes your responsibility,” another party source said. The source said the car was taken away a day after the party’s fifth anniversary. “On Sunday morning when they took the car, they embarrassed and insulted the man,” the source said." [8]
- Reviewed:
-Samoht27 (talk) 23:04, 11 September 2024 (UTC).
- I may review this nomination later today, but a quick comment is that while the source goes into detail about why !Nawatiseb was chosen to drive the car, why other party leaders were supposedly upset, and ostensible explanations as to why the car was reassigned, the article itself only talks about !Nawatiseb's embarrassment over the car being taken. I really like the second hook, but the disagreements should be detailed (or at least mentioned explicitly) in the article for the nomination to pass. Yue🌙 17:05, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
Also, I think it should be "a celebration of the party's fifth anniversary", because to my understanding he was to drive for the celebration in a specific part of Namibia, as he was the only person qualified in that area. Yue🌙 17:09, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: References were spot-checked for verification; no issues arose. Both hooks are verified, but I prefer ALT1. However, I propose to the promoter this rewording of ALT1, which incorporates ALT0:
- ALT2: ... that Engel Nawatiseb reportedly left the Landless People's Movement just a month after joining because of disagreements over who should drive during the party's fifth anniversary celebration?
The sources are the two already given. Yue🌙 20:13, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
Sorry to butt in, but the article isn't good enough for DYK. At first, I intended to remove the stub tag (we don't run stubs at DYK) but it's arguably still a stub. There is nothing outside of his political career; no early life, education, or what he did before politics. The article therefore fails WP:DYKCOMPLETE. Secondly, the date and place of birth are both unreferenced and that's a violation of WP:BLP. Thirdly, about half the article deals with controversies and that feels unbalanced; hence it fails WP:NPOV. There's a lot more work required to get this ready. I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Schwede66 08:17, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Memento dollar
- ... that the first silver dollars of the Republic of China were crudely-designed mementos (pictured)?
- Source: Kann, Eduard (1953). Illustrated Catalog of Chinese Coins (Gold, Silver, Nickel & Aluminum). pp. 188-189
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 20:40, 9 September 2024 (UTC).
- Long enough, new enough. Well written and seems compliant with policy. My only worry is that the Kann book this is sourced to is self published, but from searching he was an established subject matter expert who sees use by others, so I think it's fine. I cannot find a copy of the book but I will AGF. Good to go. Image is good. PARAKANYAA (talk) 23:28, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 10
editKAUT-TV
- ... that an Oklahoma TV station returned to its original call sign after the death of its founder, Gene Autry? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20230906162655/https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/1998/12/06/kpsg-memorializing-gene-autry-with-movie-serial-name-change/62259992007/
Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 08:32, 10 September 2024 (UTC).
- QPQ done. GA status and date confirmed. Hook is neutral and cited. No other problems, GTG. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:33, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
Pituamkek National Park Reserve
- ... that Pituamkek National Park Reserve is Canada's newest national park, protecting a chain of barrier islands used for fishing and hunting by the Mi'kmaq for 4,000 years?
- Source: Kristmanson, Helen. "Pitawelkek: A 2000-Year-Old Archaeological Site in Malpeque Bay". Island Magazine (84). PEI Museum & Heritage Foundation: 2–14 – via Island Archives, University of Prince Edward Island.
- Reviewed: ...Well, Better Than the Alternative
- Comment: PEIsquirrel is my alt. I don't know why the template is saying 0 past nominations (maybe I used my alt? I have 5 according to my user page) but QPQ should be required. I'll take care of that shortly.
Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:42, 11 September 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: New enough, long enough, sourced and neutral, Earwig detects no copyvio issues other than long names and quoted passages, the hook is interesting. I am awaiting the QPQ as mentioned by the nominator. Ivanvector I want to clarify with you the value of "4,000 years" mentioned in the hook. I see a value of 3000 years as mentioned by "suggest the possible presence of a drowned site dating within the Woodland Period (which spans from about 3000 years ago to the recent historic period)." but I'm not sure whether the "to the recent historic period" is inclusive of an additional thousand years or not, I am not familiar with the terminology enough to make my own determination. Ornithoptera (talk) 21:44, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Ivanvector: Please address the above. Z1720 (talk) 14:44, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Z1720 and Ornithoptera: I appreciate the pings. Very busy at work today and for the next few, but I will get to this. Regarding "4,000 years", one of the sources refers to human habitation on the islands from 2,000 BC, but it's not this source. I'll have to find it again. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 15:32, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Ivanvector: Note that per a recent rule change, a QPQ should have been provided at the time of the nomination. Please provide one as soon as possible, as the nomination may be closed without further warning unless a QPQ is given. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:45, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Narutolovehinata5: thanks, I was not aware of that. If we're going to be bureaucratic about things, the rules also suggest that previously completed QPQs can be credited towards a future nomination requiring one, and I have done QPQs with three or four of my past five nominations when none were required. Nonetheless, I have started to review ...Well, Better Than the Alternative. I will check on the sourcing for the time period this evening, and update accordingly. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:11, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Ornithoptera: the source for 4,000 years is "First Look at the Proposed Pituamkek National Park Reserve" in National Parks Explorer, reference #6 in the article, which reads "These shores and forests have been home to the Mi’kmaq people for more than 4,000 years [...] ." I've added an additional inline citation. I interpreted "the recent historic period" as meaning the time period right up to European contact and the Acadian expulsion in the 18th century, and the section you're referring to I believe describes the estimated age of that particular drowned site or to the Pitawelkek site described in the source, not to the whole island chain. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 19:07, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- To clarify the rule, it just means that a QPQ should have been provided at the time of making the nomination, if it is a review that was done previously. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:03, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for getting back to me with the QPQ. I can verify that the new source for 4000 years explicitly mentions the date mentioned in the hook. For future reference, it might be ideal to not assume "the recent historic period" based on what you might assume, rather, finding a source that can attest to it within a relevant source is the safest way to go. The phrase can be interpreted in a variety of ways and would not serve as a strong source for this context. Thank you for your time Ivanvector, wonderful work on the article regardless. Ornithoptera (talk) 21:20, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- To clarify the rule, it just means that a QPQ should have been provided at the time of making the nomination, if it is a review that was done previously. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:03, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Ivanvector: Note that per a recent rule change, a QPQ should have been provided at the time of the nomination. Please provide one as soon as possible, as the nomination may be closed without further warning unless a QPQ is given. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:45, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Abdur Rahman Mahmudi
- ... that imprisoned Afghan politician Abdur Rahman Mahmudi (pictured) would write poems using onion juice as ink in his jail cell?
- Source: Louis Dupree. Red Flag Over Hindu Kush: Leftist movements in Afghanistan. AUFS, 1979. p. 17
Soman (talk) 10:51, 10 September 2024 (UTC).
- Will be claiming this review and hope to get to it within the next few days. For now, the hook is good and sourced; AGF on the source, but just to be sure I'd like to see on this page the relevant excerpt for verification purposes. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:13, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Continuing the review: the article is new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination, and no close paraphrasing was detected. A QPQ has been done, and the provided hook is interesting and cited inline. Given that I do not have access to the hook fact, I am assuming good faith here. This is almost ready to go: I would just like to see the relevant excerpt here be provided for verification purposes; the tick will be given once that's done. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:28, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- "Dr. Abdur Rahman MAHMUDI. Born 1909. [...] Beaten in prison, kidneys virtually destroyed. Wrote poems in prison using onion juice as ink" --Soman (talk) 21:47, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- That should work. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:01, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- "Dr. Abdur Rahman MAHMUDI. Born 1909. [...] Beaten in prison, kidneys virtually destroyed. Wrote poems in prison using onion juice as ink" --Soman (talk) 21:47, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Continuing the review: the article is new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination, and no close paraphrasing was detected. A QPQ has been done, and the provided hook is interesting and cited inline. Given that I do not have access to the hook fact, I am assuming good faith here. This is almost ready to go: I would just like to see the relevant excerpt here be provided for verification purposes; the tick will be given once that's done. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:28, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Hugh Bunel
- ... that after murdering Mabel de Bellême in France, Hugh Bunel went into exile for almost 20 years, serving with the Byzantine emperor and the Saracen army before joining Robert Curthose on crusade?
- Source: "Hugh Bunel, who murdered Mabel of Bellême, found himself pursued for years. Orderic tells us that Hugh fled first to Apulia, then to Sicily, and from there to the service of the Byzantine emperor Alexios Comnenos. But wherever Hugh went he was pursued by the threats and bribes of King William and Mabel's sons, who 'promised rewards and gifts to any spies who could kill the exiled assassin in whatever land they might find him', And so Hugh left Christendom altogether and lived among the Saracens for twenty years until, during the First Crusade, he appeared before Robert Curthose at the siege of Jerusalem and offered him his help and service in counsel and battle." from: Hagger, Mark S. (2017). Norman Rule in Normandy, 911-1144. Boydell & Brewer. p. 450. ISBN 978-1-78327-214-3.
- ALT1: ... that Norman warrior Hugh Bunel lived for years among the Saracens before turning against them to join the First Crusade? Source: as above
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Café Adria
Dumelow (talk) 07:01, 10 September 2024 (UTC).
- New enough, long enough, QPQ done. Can't access the relevant part of the hook source, but items sourced to Ordericus 1854 check out and have been very well rearranged throughout the article. I would just like to check where the certainty in the hook comes from, as the cited quote from the source (thanks a lot for that) reports it with some hesitation. CMD (talk) 08:58, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi CMD, I chose the quote above as it tells the story in one easy citable passage. I think Haggard is just making clear his source; other publications I have cited in the article state it more directly. Eg: "Hugh Bunel, who was exiled from Normandy after hacking off the head of Mabel of Bellême as she lay in bed, lived for twenty years among the Saracens, studying their customs and language: as a result he was able to offer useful services to the armies of the First Crusade." from: Fletcher, Richard A. (1991). The Quest for El Cid. Oxford University Press. p. 109. ISBN 978-0-19-506955-6. - Dumelow (talk) 11:03, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for adding further, good to go. CMD (talk) 15:45, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi CMD, I chose the quote above as it tells the story in one easy citable passage. I think Haggard is just making clear his source; other publications I have cited in the article state it more directly. Eg: "Hugh Bunel, who was exiled from Normandy after hacking off the head of Mabel of Bellême as she lay in bed, lived for twenty years among the Saracens, studying their customs and language: as a result he was able to offer useful services to the armies of the First Crusade." from: Fletcher, Richard A. (1991). The Quest for El Cid. Oxford University Press. p. 109. ISBN 978-0-19-506955-6. - Dumelow (talk) 11:03, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Devil's Doorway (Wisconsin)
- ... that the Devil's Doorway (pictured) is found in Wisconsin?
- Source: source
- ALT1: ... that The Milwaukee Journal referred to a rock formation (pictured) as one of "Wisconsin's natural wonders"? Source: Wisconsin's natural wonders draw people from all over the state, the country and the world. From the Devil's Doorway at Devil's Lake, to the Apostle Islands, these are Wisconsin treasures.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hamad City
Lightburst (talk) 01:39, 11 September 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Lightburst, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 10 September and exceeds minimum length; I am not familiar with the sources used but they appear to be reliable enough for the content; I didn't find any issue with overly close paraphrasing in a spotcheck on some of the sources; image source is no longer online but is a bot upload from a free image repository so ought to be fine; hooks mentioned in article and checkout to source cited, I prefer the simplicity of ALT0; a QPQ has been carried out. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 14:43, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
- Lightburst, should the image be File:Devil's Doorway 1898.jpg? The caption says 1898, but there is a digital camera photo above it. Rjjiii (talk) 03:49, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Rjjiii: Thanks for catching that error. I removed the 1898 date. I preferred this picture to the 1898 image in the article as this one looks a bit more ominous. Lightburst (talk) 16:22, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 11
editErnest de Munck
- ... that Ernest de Munck owned a Stradivarius cello now named after him?
- ALT1: ... that the Stradivarius cello once owned by Ernest de Munck is now named after him? Source: https://www.nmf.or.jp/english/instruments/post_291.html
- Reviewed:
AsYouWish13 02:26, 15 September 2024 (UTC).
- Long enough. New enough. Inline citations throughout. Eight of the 15 sources are behind Proquest, so AGF here. Other sources do check out. Generally well written; I did make a few minor copy-edits. Copyright "violation unlikely" (9.1% similarity) per Earwig. Both hooks are cited. I find ALT1 more interesting; plus, it references directly to the very Stradivarius cello once owned by the man. GTG for ALT1.
Pabhāvatī
- ... that the beauty of Princess Pabhāvatī was said to light up seven chambers, making lamps unnecessary? Source: Naing, Aung Min (2018). "ရတနာပုံဆရာဥ၏ မင်းကုသကွက်စိပ်" (PDF). Myanmar Academy of Arts and Science. XVI: 470.
- Reviewed:
Hteiktinhein (talk) 11:45, 11 September 2024 (UTC).
- The article is new enough and long enough, no QPQ is needed. The article seems mostly sourced to the primary source, but having a quick search I am satisfied the subject has further coverage. While the source given in this nomination is non-English and without a page number, the hook is sourced in the article to the primary source which does support it. The article would be improved by the use of page numbers for sources. I am unsure about the image copyright, I do not think it can be own work as it is a photograph of an artwork. CMD (talk) 09:25, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis:, Thank you for reviewing my first DYK submission. The 'ancient-buddhist-texts' English source is a primary source, but I added it mainly for clarity and better understanding in English. The article is fully supported by the Burmese source, and even without the 'ancient-buddhist-texts' reference, it remains comprehensive. The Burmese source, Kutha Zatdaw (PDF), Myanmar Alin (in Burmese), 16 June 2005, p. 10, is sufficient to cover the entire article. An article from the Myanmar Academy of Arts and Science is also an additional reference that can be used to verify the entire content of the article. If you're unable to verify the Burmese source, please feel free to seek assistance from other Burmese-speaking editors. And I added more English source and page numbers.
- Regarding the image, the Buddhist temple artwork is not copyrighted, which is a common case in Myanmar. Buddhist Jataka tales are often depicted in many temples and monasteries across Myanmar. For instance, File:071 The Defeat of Alavaka (9022063790).jpg is an example. In Myanmar and Thailand, temple arts of Buddha cosmology are generally not subject to copyright. Thanks! Hteiktinhein (talk) 20:06, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- No problem, it is an interesting article. On the sources, there is no specific issue with non-English sources (although the English backup is appreciated), but as a general point I would suggest including page numbers next to specific claims for all languages. Would you have a link for more information about that copyright situation? CMD (talk) 14:53, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- As I’m not an expert on copyright, I’m not sure how to explain it very well. I do know that Myanmar is not a freedom of panorama country, but the Aung Myin Dipa Temple in Patheingyi was established around 1880 by Min Dipa, a minister and court official in King Thibaw's court. The paintings in the temple seem old, but there is no indication of the year they were made or the owner’s name. So, they could be considered under the PD-Myanmar license. However, I don’t want to delay or cause any arguments, so it’s fine to promote my DYK without the photo. I’m withdrawing the photo for now. Pls kindly review. Thanks! Hteiktinhein (talk) 02:59, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Good to go. CMD (talk) 05:44, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- As I’m not an expert on copyright, I’m not sure how to explain it very well. I do know that Myanmar is not a freedom of panorama country, but the Aung Myin Dipa Temple in Patheingyi was established around 1880 by Min Dipa, a minister and court official in King Thibaw's court. The paintings in the temple seem old, but there is no indication of the year they were made or the owner’s name. So, they could be considered under the PD-Myanmar license. However, I don’t want to delay or cause any arguments, so it’s fine to promote my DYK without the photo. I’m withdrawing the photo for now. Pls kindly review. Thanks! Hteiktinhein (talk) 02:59, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- No problem, it is an interesting article. On the sources, there is no specific issue with non-English sources (although the English backup is appreciated), but as a general point I would suggest including page numbers next to specific claims for all languages. Would you have a link for more information about that copyright situation? CMD (talk) 14:53, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Regarding the image, the Buddhist temple artwork is not copyrighted, which is a common case in Myanmar. Buddhist Jataka tales are often depicted in many temples and monasteries across Myanmar. For instance, File:071 The Defeat of Alavaka (9022063790).jpg is an example. In Myanmar and Thailand, temple arts of Buddha cosmology are generally not subject to copyright. Thanks! Hteiktinhein (talk) 20:06, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 12
editThe Taehongdang Party Secretary
- ... that North Korean series The Taehongdang Party Secretary was created to help promote the consumption of potatoes during a rice shortage? Source: North Korea has a pop culture obsession with potatoes, and it's a dangerous sign
- ALT1: ... that a lead actor in the 1997 North Korean series The Taehongdang Party Secretary was digitally replaced for a 2024 re-release after falling out of favour with the government? Source: Disappearing act: North Korea digitally scrubs lead actor from popular TV series
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Johannesteijsmannia lanceolata
CMD (talk) 17:27, 12 September 2024 (UTC).
- Hi CMD, review follows: article created 12 September and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout; I am not familiar with all of the sources and some are subscription only but appear to be reliable for the content cited; I didn't find any issue with overly close paraphrasing from the parts of the English-language sources I could access; hook facts are interesting, stated in the article and cited; I can't access the NK News articles but AGF they support the hooks, ALT1 looks to also be supported by the Yonhapnews article (according to Google Translate); a QPQ has been carried out. Looks fine to me - Dumelow (talk) 11:03, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
Niederdollendorf stone, Grésin plaque, Landelinus buckle
- ... that the Grésin plaque, Landelinus buckle, and Niederdollendorf stone (pictured) are each controversially conjectured to depict a pagan-inspired Christ?
- Source: Friedrich, Matthias (2023). "The Enduring Power of Images". Image and Ornament in the Early Medieval West. Cambridge University Press. pp. 37–104. (Gresin: p. 64; Landelinus: p. 54; Niederdollendorf, p. 47).
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Pachyballus ornatus. Template:Did you know nominations/Tuhi Martukaw. Template:Did you know nominations/List of chronic pain syndromes
Tenpop421 (talk) 23:10, 12 September 2024 (UTC).
- Comment: Grésin plaque and Landelinus buckle created; Niederdollendorf stone expanded 5x. Three interesting artefacts and quite a striking Christ image.
- All three articles:
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- Freely licensed:
- Used in article: - Yes, the picture is used in one of the three articles.
- Clear at 100px:
QPQ: - One QPQ has been done, but this nomination needs three QPQs. It's a little confusing, given that this nomination page claims that only one QPQ is needed, but WP:QPQ says that "Where a nomination offers more than one new or expanded article, an article-for-article quid pro quo (QPQ) is required for each nominated article. As soon as a new nominator's hook includes articles beyond their fifth nomination of an article for DYK, each of those requires a separate QPQ review." Since you have six DYK credits, you need two more QPQs - one for each of the three articles.
Overall: @Tenpop421: Nice work on these articles. This nomination actually needs two more QPQs (this nomination page claims that you are required to give 1 QPQ, but that is an error and doesn't match what WP:QPQ says). Once these reviews are done, this nomination is good to go. In the meantime, I'm probably going to bring up the QPQ discrepancy somewhere; that is a pretty glaring error, but it isn't your fault at all. Epicgenius (talk) 23:59, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oh! Thank you for informing me. I will return to this when I have the two other QPQs. Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 00:09, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Epicgenius: I have added two more QPQs to the nomination. Tenpop421 (talk) 18:17, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for doing the QPQs. This nomination is good to go now. Epicgenius (talk) 18:18, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Epicgenius: I have added two more QPQs to the nomination. Tenpop421 (talk) 18:17, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Passmore Edwards Centre
- ... that John Passmore Edwards erected a library (pictured) in memory of his mother?
- Source: "the building was a gift to Newton Abbot from Passmore Edwards, a noted public benefactor, in memory of his mother." from: "Adult Education Centre and Library". National Heritage List for England. Historic England. Retrieved 10 September 2024.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Dookie
Dumelow (talk) 15:25, 12 September 2024 (UTC).
- Created September 10, and 4,256 characters; new enough and long enough. The qpq is completed. The image is clear and free based on the FOP of the UK. Earrwig does not alert to any issues. AGF on the hook's source - thank you for providing a sentence from the book above. The hook is interesting and it looks like the subject provided nearly all of the money for the building so it is accurate. I made a few edits to the article for expediency. I did not change the spacing after periods (there are two). I think there should be one space after periods but based on MOS:DOUBLESPACE it does not affect what readers see. Bruxton (talk) 20:17, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 13
editUnited States ten-thousand-dollar bill
- ... that the US$10,000 bill (pictured) is the highest denomination of US currency to be used by the public?
- ALT1: ... that in 2023, an example of a US$10,000 bill (pictured) sold for US$480,000? Source: A $10,000 bill from 1934 sold for a record $480,000 at an auction in Texas auction
- ALT2: ... that even though banks will only redeem a US$10,000 bill (pictured) for face value, they are worth more to collectors? Source: If you had a $500, $1,000, $5,000 or $10,000 note now, and would turn the note in to your local bank, the bank would only credit you with the face value of the note. and various source to show greater value like They are led by a pair of $10,000 notes that each have an estimate of $125,000 to $175,000. and the sources for the auction sale.
- ALT3: ... that banks will redeem a US$10,000 bill (pictured) for face value, and then they will send it to the Department of the Treasury for destruction? Source: If you had a $500, $1,000, $5,000 or $10,000 note now, and would turn the note in to your local bank, the bank would only credit you with the face value of the note. and large denomination notes are sent to the Treasury for destruction
- ALT4: ... that a US$10,000 bill (pictured) is still legal tender in the United States? Source: If you had a $500, $1,000, $5,000 or $10,000 note now, and would turn the note in to your local bank, the bank would only credit you with the face value of the note. and Although no longer printed, high-denomination notes of $500 and higher are still considered legal tender in the United States. Notes in denominations higher than $100 were last printed by the BEP on Dec. 27, 1945, but released over the next more than two decades.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Passmore Edwards Centre
- Comment: I will continue to tinker but the article is complete
Bruxton (talk) 20:53, 13 September 2024 (UTC).
- Date, length, hook, qpq ok. Image free on Commons. I prefer the main hook or ALT1. Close paraphrase not found in spot check. --Soman (talk) 11:04, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 14
editGrupo Mexicano de Desarrollo, S.A. v. Alliance Bond Fund, Inc.
- ... that U.S. courts cannot freeze a defaulting debtor's foreign assets before trial, said the Supreme Court in Grupo Mexicano (1999), because the English Lord Chancellor didn't do that 210 years earlier?
- Source: Vanderbilt Law Review p. 1010; Indiana Law Journal p. 234–35
- ALT1: ... that because the English Lord Chancellor didn't freeze assets before trial in 1789, the U.S. Supreme Court decided in 1999 that U.S. courts can't either?
- Reviewed:
SilverLocust 💬 05:30, 14 September 2024 (UTC).
- New enough (draft), long enough, no QPQ needed. A couple of paragraphs lack citations, although they read as if they might simply use a duplicate of other existing citations. Earwig gives a high value, but this seems to be mostly quotations. If there is another way to word "converted the preliminary injunction into a permanent injunction" that may be useful, but if not, I have not found copyvio. The hook seems interesting from a common law perspective, but I am concerned the language does not easily track the article which may make it difficult for readers to find. For example, "freeze" does not appear in the article, neither does "Lord Chancellor". I do think it is in the sources given here, although I cannot access the source in the article. This should be a simple fix, either with tweaks to the article or the hook. CMD (talk) 10:48, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Added references for those few paragraphs I forgot to cite.
- To make it easier to find the support for the hook, I have rephrased the intro a bit, duplicated a footnote there from the body (optional per MOS:LEADCITE), and added non-paywalled sources for it. Additionally:
- I have changed a "frozen" into "freeze" for sake of CTRL+F. (There were already 8 instances of "freezing".)
- Likewise I have added "Lord Chancellor" to the lead, though "the Chancellor" and "the pre-Revolutionary Chancellor" appear in the article and refer to that. I used "Lord Chancellor" in the hook rather than "Court of Chancery" (the former court of the Lord Chancellor) mainly since it sounds more interesting (and is accurate), but I would be fine with instead using "Court of Chancery" in the hook.
- Re: "
although I cannot access the source
", if you log in to the Wikipedia: Library, then you should be able to access that paywalled sources via HeinOnline at Maloy, "Expansive Equity Jurisprudence: A Court Divided" (and likewise the other paywalled source at Haines, "The Conservative Assault on Federal Equity").
- While I have now very slightly changed the wording, "converted the preliminary injunction into a permanent injunction" (Google) is not original to the case, and the exact phrase is used by the Supreme Court, the court of appeals, and multiple sources (Burbank, Grenig)—in each instance without quotation.
- Thank you very much for looking over this. SilverLocust 💬 22:05, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the replies and explanations, and the TWL note. I believe this is good to go. CMD (talk) 01:51, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for looking over this. SilverLocust 💬 22:05, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Love Lies (2024 film)
- ... that to help the production crew save on the budget, Sandra Ng wore her own clothes while filming Love Lies?
- Source: [1]
- ALT1: ... that singer-actor MC Cheung Tin-fu opened a Threads account and made his first post while filming Love Lies in Sapporo? Source: [2]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Yang Pao-an
Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 15:10, 14 September 2024 (UTC).
Timely nomination. I really like ALT0. Hook facts are verified and there are no copyvios that I can find. Well-written article although the synopsis might be a bit overly detailed. Looks good to go from a DYK perspective. Foreign language references accepted in good faith.--NØ 11:57, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
(Restored by Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) at 16:53, 20 September 2024 (UTC) per WP:TPO, see Special:Diff/1246513251)
Claiming this for review and hoping to finish the full review soon. For now I'll just note that the first hook is probably the best option here. It's mentioned in the article and properly referenced. I couldn't find where in the Chinese source the part about her using her own clothes is mentioned, but the English source confirmed it so there's that. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:14, 20 September 2024 (UTC)- Hi Narutolovehinata5. First of all, I am confused, as I believed User:MaranoFan had approved this nomination yesterday, and your statement does not imply a denouncement of their review. So I am unsure why Marano's review was overridden. As for the Chinese source, it is actually written in Cantonese. It writes "'First of all, I would like to thank Sandra Ng for providing many of her own beautiful clothes. In fact, we are the real scam syndicate, as we first asked Ng to play this role but couldn’t advance her payment. Then we "made" Ng into lending us her costumes, and even she joked, "are you guys really that poor?"' Ho Miu Ki expressed gratitude for Ng's professionalism and kindness to help the production crew saving a significant amount on wardrobe expenses. (首先要多謝君如提供許多私伙靚衫。其實我們才是真正的詐騙集團,首先請君如演這個角色,但又未能預支片酬;然後再『氹』君如借出服裝,連她也笑言『你哋係咪真係咁窮呀!』」何妙祺感謝吳君如的專業與不計較,願意為劇組節省大量服飾上的開銷。) It does not mention Ng wearing her clothes, as it was cited to support the first part of the sentence about her "[lending] her own wardrobe to the costume crew" and "to help to save money". It is unrelated to the hook, which is why I did not include that source in this nomination. But as you mentioned, the English source has already checked out the hook, so I am still uncertain about what the problem is here. —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 15:50, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5 Do not delete other users' comments like you did here.--NØ 17:07, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- @MaranoFan and Prince of Erebor: I'm really sorry about the last edit! I recently had the "save discarded edits" preference enabled and I had the editing tab open for a while since I was planning to review this. It seems that the new edits were not detected by the tool after refreshing and instead reverted to an earlier version of the article, hence why my edit overrode the review and I didn't know or notice that a review had already been done. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:40, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- Ahhh thanks for clarifying, Narutolovehinata5! It is fine. I was just a bit confused, because I remember the nomination being approved, but that comment suddenly disappeared and it was undergoing review again. Thought I might be delusional or something. XD —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 07:36, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- Putting the tick here just to make it clear that MaranoFan already reviewed/approved this, and I've struck my "review". Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 21:38, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- Ahhh thanks for clarifying, Narutolovehinata5! It is fine. I was just a bit confused, because I remember the nomination being approved, but that comment suddenly disappeared and it was undergoing review again. Thought I might be delusional or something. XD —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 07:36, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- @MaranoFan and Prince of Erebor: I'm really sorry about the last edit! I recently had the "save discarded edits" preference enabled and I had the editing tab open for a while since I was planning to review this. It seems that the new edits were not detected by the tool after refreshing and instead reverted to an earlier version of the article, hence why my edit overrode the review and I didn't know or notice that a review had already been done. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:40, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ Hsia, Heidi (22 April 2024). "Sandra Ng wears her own clothes for "Love Lies"". Yahoo! Life. Archived from the original on 18 May 2024. Retrieved 13 September 2024.
- ^ Kwong, Lenka (6 June 2023). "「Threads」社交應用程式熱潮來襲!到底一眾名人的首個帖子內容是甚麼?" [The Threads social media app craze is here! What exactly is the content of the first posts from these celebrities?]. Harper's Bazaar (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 13 September 2024. Retrieved 12 September 2024.
Rose Betts
- ... that English singer Rose Betts wrote the song "Driving Myself Home" as a joke after a blind date, only for it to go viral on TikTok?
- Source: Inspired by a real blind date her friends set her up on, Betts wrote the song as a joke, including the lyrics: The best part of the date today was driving myself home … I put the chorus and the verse up and it immediately went nuts. Within a day it was nearing 300,000 views, and then a million.
Chaiten1 (talk) 14:13, 14 September 2024 (UTC).
- The QPQ is done and I can see that this was nominated in time. The article meets the size requirements. The hook fact is interesting and appears in the source. The reference formatting could be improved a bit but this isn't really a hurdle for a DYK appearance.--NØ 10:48, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
Elias Karmon
- ... that Mr. Bronx was not from the Bronx?
- Source: https://digital.bronxhistoricalsociety.org/mskarmon ( known as “Mr. Bronx,” ... Born in 1910 in the Lower East Side of Manhattan)
RoySmith (talk) 19:43, 14 September 2024 (UTC).
- Doing... ミラP@Miraclepine 18:14, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Moved to draftspace on DYK day and size is 3979 B. Since we're almost done, @RoySmith: fix that one issue and I'll approve. Gotta admit that hook was interesting. ミラP@Miraclepine 18:47, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Miraclepine thank you for the review; I've done some rewording. RoySmith (talk) 19:07, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
- @RoySmith: Okay we're good to go. ALT0 approved. ミラP@Miraclepine 19:11, 15 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 15
editJune Franklin
- ... that June Franklin was the first African American in an Iowa major political party to be elected as the Assistant Minority Leader of the Democratic House?
- Source: "In recognition of her demonstrated leadership skills, she was elected during the 63rd General Assembly to the position of Assistant Minority Leader of the Democratic House. Franklin is the first African-American to hold such a leadership position in either major political party in Iowa." - Silag, Bill (2001). Outside In: African-American History In Iowa 1838-2000. State Historical Society of Iowa. pp. 349–350. ISBN 0890330131.
SL93 (talk) 00:29, 17 September 2024 (UTC).
- Not a huge fan of the hook angle given that being an assistant minority leader doesn't seem as impressive being an actual minority leader. There do seem to be some other possible alternatives in the article so here they are:
- ALT1 ... that Iowa politician June Franklin worked as an insurance agent and a real estate agent prior to entering politics?
- ALT1a ... that Iowa state representative June Franklin worked as an insurance agent and a real estate agent prior to entering politics?
- ALT2 ... that Iowa politician June Franklin wrote to 10 members of the US Congress urging them to declare Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday a federal holiday?
- ALT3 ... that state representative June Franklin addressed the nation from the Iowa State Capitol following the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr.?
- Most partial to ALT1/ALT1a myself but I'll leave it to a reviewer. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:24, 17 September 2024 (UTC)
- Narutolovehinata5 I agree that those are much better. Thank you. SL93 (talk) 00:32, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Doing... ミラP@Miraclepine 00:18, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Nomination two days after creation. Size 2487 B. AGF offline source for ALT0, 1, and 1a. Prefer ALT2 over ALT3 over the others. ミラP@Miraclepine 00:49, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
Brussels Party Conference of the Communist Party of Germany
- ... that the 1935 Brussels Party Conference of the Communist Party of Germany took place in the outskirts of Moscow rather than in Brussels?
- Source: Hans Kluth. Die KPD in der Bundesrepublik: Ihre politische Tätigkeit und Organisation 1945 – 1956. Springer-Verlag, 2013. pp. 12, 15
Soman (talk) 11:19, 15 September 2024 (UTC).
- I will gladly review this article today! WatkynBassett (talk) 08:58, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- The article was moved to mainspace on 15 September 2024 and nominated on the same day. It is thus eligible.
- The article is well-sourced. I did some spot checks and the references checked out. I would have loved to see Sfn-References. If you plan to bring this article to GA, I would suggest using them (I would offer myself to review this GA-nomination)
- The article is written in a neutral and non-promotional tone. However, I inserted some quotation-marks to highlight particular Communist-vocabulary.
- Earwig did not pick up anything.
- QPQ done.
- Hook review: I really liked and enjoyed the hook! I thought I had a passable knowledge of that era but never heard of the KPD using "code locations" in the 1930s. For the promoter: I accessed the German-language source provided via Wikipedia Library and it checked out.
- Result: Thank you very much for creating free knowlege, Soman. I gladly approve the hook. If you ever want to bring the article to GA, I would offer myself as a reviewer. WatkynBassett (talk) 09:46, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
WatkynBassett (talk) 05:42, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
Chesmac
- ... that as the 1979 computer chess game Chesmac (pictured) could not show the chessboard on screen, players had to replicate the game on a physical chessboard?
- ALT1: ... that the 1979 computer game Chesmac has been described as resembling correspondence chess, as the computer took over fifteen minutes to think of each move? Source: http://yle.fi/uutiset/ensimmainen_suomalainen_tietokonepeli_mietti_shakkisiirtoa_tunnin/7659391
- ALT2: ... that the 1979 computer chess game Chesmac was the first commercially published video game developed in Finland? Source: http://www.v2.fi/artikkelit/pelit/1524/Ensimmainen-suomalainen-tietokonepeli/
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Madhavi (princess)
JIP | Talk 13:27, 19 September 2024 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:31, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Interesting article. Looks good. The hour to move aspect could probably also make a decent hook if you like, e.g. ALT4 ... that in the 1979 computer chess game Chesmac, the computer could take up to an hour to make each move? The proposed hooks are fine, though. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:48, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
GhGk-63
- ... that an ancient Canadian archaeological site was discovered during the construction of a dump?
- Source: Desrosiers, Pierre M.; Gendron, Daniel (2004). "The GhGk-63 Site: A Dorset Occupation in Southeastern Hudson Bay, Nunavik". Canadian Journal of Archaeology. 28 (1). page 76
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 05:10, 15 September 2024 (UTC).
- Article created 13 September. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hook is interesting and sourced. QPQ is done. Looks good! Thriley (talk) 02:56, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 16
editAva–Hanthawaddy War (1401–1403)
- ... that King Minkhaung I of Ava lamented that King Razadarit of Hanthawaddy had so far invaded his country without "breaking a sword or a lance"?
- Source: Chronicle source: Hmannan Yazawin Vol. 1 2003, page 455.
Hybernator (talk) 22:58, 23 September 2024 (UTC).
- No problems detected, date, size, hook, QPQ, etc. all GTG. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:21, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
Verna Mersereau
- ... that American stage actress Verna Mersereau performed her traditional classical dances before royalty in Calcutta?
SilverserenC 01:49, 18 September 2024 (UTC).
- New enough (moved draft), long enough. No copyvio from spotcheck of the first 3 sources. Very nice work with the newspapers. On prose, just a double check on whether we should be writing "Europe and the Orient", it feels outdated. Perhaps it should be in quotes, as I am unsure modern readers will understand what "the Orient" means. In Career, I am unclear how she joined a company in 1928 if she had already travelled with them in 1927.For the hook, I am unsure where "ancient" comes from, it is not in the sources. I would also suggest wording it as "royalty in Calcutta", as I'm not sure Calcutta itself had specific royalty. Otherwise, it is interesting and sourced. CMD (talk) 13:48, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi, Chipmunkdavis! I've fixed usage of "the Orient", per your suggestion. I only used the term because the papers in question did without technically defining what area that referred to. I've fixed the year discrepancy. I've changed the hook to "in".
- As for ancient, I would love for alternative suggestions on that one. I included it for a particular reason. If it just says "classical dance", then people are going to assume that means ballet or ballroom dances, when that is absolutely not the type of dances being referred to. The dances she used were things like ancient Assyrian and Egyptian dances. However, the sources on her dancing before the Calcutta royalty didn't specify which dance types she used in that case, so I wasn't comfortable automatically including either of those two cultural names. SilverserenC 21:44, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Interesting that the sources all seem to use classical dance, perhaps its meaning has shifted. After a quick look around, would something like "folk" or "traditional" work? The royalty wording should be tweaked in the article as well. CMD (talk) 00:56, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- I suppose traditional classical dances will work. I've made the change in the hook above and fixed the royalty sentences in the article. SilverserenC 01:07, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- We are good to go, in the hopes of one day getting a Wikipedia article on this meaning of classical dance. CMD (talk) 01:29, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- I suppose traditional classical dances will work. I've made the change in the hook above and fixed the royalty sentences in the article. SilverserenC 01:07, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Interesting that the sources all seem to use classical dance, perhaps its meaning has shifted. After a quick look around, would something like "folk" or "traditional" work? The royalty wording should be tweaked in the article as well. CMD (talk) 00:56, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- As for ancient, I would love for alternative suggestions on that one. I included it for a particular reason. If it just says "classical dance", then people are going to assume that means ballet or ballroom dances, when that is absolutely not the type of dances being referred to. The dances she used were things like ancient Assyrian and Egyptian dances. However, the sources on her dancing before the Calcutta royalty didn't specify which dance types she used in that case, so I wasn't comfortable automatically including either of those two cultural names. SilverserenC 21:44, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 18
editKarađorđeva šnicla
- ... that the Karađorđeva šnicla was accidentally created as an improvisation of chicken Kiev? Source: Kalaba, Ana (9 March 2020). ""Kako sam skuvao istoriju": Životna priča Titovog kuvara" ["How I Cooked History": The Life Story of Tito's Chef]. NOVA portal (in Serbian). Archived from the original on 10 December 2023. Retrieved 13 September 2024., Mitrović, Nemanja (19 February 2023). "Jugoslavija i hrana: Kako je Titov kuvar stvorio Karađorđevu šniclu" [Yugoslavia and food: How Tito's chef created Karađorđe's schnitzel]. BBC News (in Serbian). Archived from the original on 17 March 2023. Retrieved 13 September 2024.
Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 12:31, 20 September 2024 (UTC).
- Article has achieved Good Article status. No issues of copyvio or plagiarism. All sources appear reliable. Hook is interesting and sourced. QPQ is done. Looks ready to go. Thriley (talk) 00:20, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
Dusko Doder
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that Dusko Doder was able to surmise that Yuri Andropov, the leader of the Soviet Union, had died from the evening lighting at the Soviet Defense Ministry and a change to classical music on radio and television?
- Source: "Doder, who was known for his scoops, was reporting for The Post in February 1984 when he noticed hundreds of lights blazing at the Soviet Defense Ministry in Moscow. He surmised that the Soviet leader, Yuri Andropov, had died. United States officials, dismissing the suggestion, said that Mr. Doder was “smoking pot,” as he and Ms. Branson wrote in a 2021 memoir, “The Inconvenient Journalist.”
“Soviet television and radio Thursday night unexpectedly changed scheduled programs to classical music,” Mr. Doder’s dispatch read. “The unusual change came against the backdrop of the illness of Soviet leader Yuri Andropov.”"
NYTimes- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/GhGk-63
- Comment: Alt hooks welcome
Thriley (talk) 21:34, 24 September 2024 (UTC).
- New enough, long enough. No copyvio or OR found. QPQ is done. Appeared on the main page, but as an RD.Hook is interesting, and sourced in the article. Regarding alt hooks, I mean, what a life. Lots of possibilities in finding a friend to fund international travel, covering Tiananmen and the breakup of Yugoslavia, the classic UK libel suit. That said, I like the current one, no need to mess with a good thing. CMD (talk) 16:12, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
ALT1 ... that journalist Dusko Doder announced the 1984 death of Yuri Andropov, the leader of the Soviet Union, a day before the Soviet government after noticing changes to the lighting at a government building and a sudden shift to classical music on radio and television? Thriley (talk) 17:57, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: What do you think of this hook? It feels a bit more hooky. Thriley (talk) 17:58, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- With the changes that it Doder "reported" before the Soviet Union "announced" it would work, as he sent the info to his newspaper which published on the day of the Soviet announcement. CMD (talk) 03:21, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
ALT2 ... that Dusko Doder reported the 1984 death of Yuri Andropov, the leader of the Soviet Union, a day before the Soviet government announced it after he noticed changes to the lighting at a government building and a sudden shift to classical music on radio and television?Thriley (talk) 17:58, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- With the changes that it Doder "reported" before the Soviet Union "announced" it would work, as he sent the info to his newspaper which published on the day of the Soviet announcement. CMD (talk) 03:21, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: What do you think of this hook? It feels a bit more hooky. Thriley (talk) 17:58, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis: It looks like the previous hooks exceed the character count. Here's a shorter one: ALT3 ... that Dusko Doder reported the 1984 death of Yuri Andropov, the leader of the Soviet Union, before any official announcement after noticing a sudden shift to classical music on radio and television? Thriley (talk) 18:09, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- A shameful day for me, the DYK reviewer. You can also just replace "was able to surmise" in ALT0 with "surmised" and it is in the limit, but any formulation works. CMD (talk) 01:48, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
Brian David Gilbert
- ... that Brian David Gilbert's online content includes a musical version of Stranger Things, a series of Halloween-themed ABBA covers, and a guide to health insurance?
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Ana Eva Hei
- ... that one of the last surviving women from Rapa Nui to receive traditional facial tattoos was queen consort Ana Eva Hei (pictured)? Source: "By 1930 only two tattooed women survived: Juan Tepano's mother, old Viriamo, and Ana Eva Hei the wife of Atamu Tekana ..." (p.117) https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/The_Tattooing_Arts_of_Tribal_Women/3eqeAAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=Ana+Eva+Hei&dq=Ana+Eva+Hei&printsec=frontcover [see Atamu Tekena for his role as king]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Archcliffe Fort
- Comment: I could crop the image down if required
Lajmmoore (talk) 19:14, 18 September 2024 (UTC).
- The article is meeting the size requirement, was nominated in time, and the QPQ checks out. I don't think the image requires cropping. However, isn't the hook missing the word "surviving" for it to match what the source says, Lajmmoore? Something like "... that one of the last surviving women from Rapa Nui to receive traditional facial tattoos was queen consort Ana Eva Hei"? The article has the same issue.--NØ 11:17, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks so much MaranoFan - that's a good spot and I've fixed the missing word in both the hook and the article. Lajmmoore (talk) 22:02, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- I think this is good to go in that case.--NØ 04:05, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
Daughter's Daughter
- ... that Sylvia Chang is the first individual to receive an honorable mention for the Toronto International Film Festival's Platform Prize with her performance in Daughter's Daughter?
- Source: [1]
- ALT1: ... that the scenes set in the United States in the Taiwanese film Daughter's Daughter were almost written out but were retained at the insistence of lead actress Sylvia Chang? Source: [2]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Milan A. P. Harminc
- Comment: Before my rewrite, there was a large unsourced paragraph that should have been removed and arguably should not have counted toward the prose length. However, even if that paragraph were included, the original prose contained 1,011 characters (Special:Diff/1246034327), while the current article after my rewrite contains 6,201 characters. Therefore, it is 100% eligible for DYK.
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- Other problems: - ALT0 is fine. However, both the source for ALT1 and your translation of that quote say that the scenes were almost not filmed in the US. The current wording of ALT1 makes it sound like the footage was shot and then almost omitted in post-production, which is something different.
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Overall: @Prince of Erebor: Nice work on this article. ALT0 is good to go, but if you want ALT1 instead, the wording of that hook should be clarified, as per my comments above. Honestly, I think ALT1 would be more interesting if you submit a revised hook. Epicgenius (talk) 21:21, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Epicgenius, thanks for your feedback! Perhaps I can change it to:
- ALT2: "...that the scenes set in the United States in the Taiwanese film Daughter's Daughter were nearly omitted during the writing process but were retained at the insistence of lead actress Sylvia Chang?"
- What do you think? —Prince of Erebor(The Book of Mazarbul) 14:01, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Prince of Erebor, thanks for the response. ALT0 and ALT2 are good to go. Epicgenius (talk) 14:08, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ 羅子欣 (17 September 2024). "王淨「香菜梗」成國際笑點!《鬼才之道》《女兒的女兒》多倫多影展奪獎". TVBS News (in Chinese). Retrieved 18 September 2024.
而多倫多影展2015年設立站台單元,首度頒發「榮譽提及獎」給張艾嘉,史無前例。
[Since the Toronto International Film Festival established the Platform section in 2015, for the first time, Sylvia Chang was awarded with an "Honorable Mention", which is unprecedented.] - ^ Chien, Ying-jou (9 May 2024). "侯孝賢監製新片、張艾嘉向導演申訴:讓我站在紐約街頭一秒鐘!|金馬前進坎城". Yahoo! News (in Chinese). Retrieved 18 September 2024.
《女兒的女兒》導演黃熙坦言,當初拍戲怕沒錢,劇本改過很多個版本,就是為了要在台北拍,不去美國。「張姐聽到以後跟我說:『開什麼玩笑?你好歹要給我站在紐約街頭一秒鐘吧?』」後來劇組真的拉到紐約出外景。
[Director Huang Xi of Daughter's Daughter admitted that he was initially worried about production costs and revised the script multiple times to set the shoot in Taipei instead of the United States. "Sylvia Chang heard this and said to me, 'Are you kidding? At the very least, you need to let me stand on the streets of New York for a second?'" Eventually, the crew really did go to New York for location shooting.]
Gao Qifeng
- ... that Gao Qifeng (pictured), a founder of the Lingnan School, slept in a room filled with explosives?
- Source: Croizier, Ralph (2023). Art and Revolution in Modern China: The Lingnan (Cantonese) School of Painting, 1906–1951. University of California Press. p. 63. ISBN 978-0-520-33696-4. (Quote: "In the eulogy at Qifeng's funeral twenty years later, another old revolutionary, Wang Jingwei, would testify to his old friend's courage in sleeping peacefully in a room stored with explosives, presumably the revolutionary pottery shop in Canton before 1911.")
- ALT1: ... that the painter Gao Qifeng (pictured) was reported to have fled China after accusing Provisional President Yuan Shikai of assassinating a nationalist leader? Source: Cai Dengshan (蔡登山) (25 August 2023). "番禺高奇峰:未尽其才的"岭南三杰" [Panyu Gao Qifeng: The "Three Heroes of Lingnan" Who Did Not Use His Talents to Their Fullest]. Dute News (in Chinese). Shenzhen Media Group. Archived from the original on 17 September 2024. Retrieved 17 September 2024. (quote: 一九一三年,宋教仁在上海被袁世凯遣刺客刺杀于火车站,高奇峰因与谢英伯、马小进为文,揭宋教仁案血迹秘密,为袁世凯下令通缉,于是出亡日本,研究制版学。 [In 1913, Song Jiaoren was assassinated at the Shanghai train station by assassins sent by Yuan Shikai. Gao Qifeng, together with Xie Yingbo and Ma Xiaojin, wrote an article to reveal the bloody secret of Song Jiaoren's case, and Yuan Shikai put them on a wanted list. Gao then went into exile in Japan to study printmaking.]
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Poll (parrot)
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 21:47, 18 September 2024 (UTC).
- Both the hooks are really good on interestingness. The article is well-done with no copyright issues and meets the size requirements. This was nominated in a timely manner and the QPQ has been completed. Hopefully it can appear with the image as it is high quality.--NØ 11:11, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
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editDeutscher Kurzwellensender Atlantik
- ... that during the Second World War the British government transmitted German and American music to Nazi U-boats?
- Source: "In March 1943, the Political Warfare Executive at Woburn Abbey began broadcasting from two radio stations, Deutscher Kurzwellensender Atlantik and Soldatenseder Calais. These purported to be authentic German transmitters, but in fact had been developed to undermine German morale, and in particular to target U-boat crews ... The objective was to subvert the discipline of enemy submariners by providing continuous first-class music, news, and feature programs every night between 1830 and 0800. Interspersed with German dance bands and singers recorded in the United States, Atlantik spread rumors, issued depressing news bulletins, and generally sought to destroy the seamen's faith in their leadership by contradicting what they had heard from Germany on official channels." from: West, Nigel (2010). Historical Dictionary of Naval Intelligence. Rowman & Littlefield. pp. 90–91. ISBN 978-0-8108-6760-4.
- ALT1: ... that one regular act on a Second World War German-language British propaganda radio station was a band captured while performing for the Afrika Korps? Source: "Atlantiksender's German in-house band, led by Henry Zeisel, had been captured by the British Eighth Army when they were touring to entertain Rommel's Afrika Korps." from Rankin, Nicholas (10 November 2009). A Genius for Deception: How Cunning Helped the British Win Two World Wars. Oxford University Press. pp. 308–310. ISBN 978-0-19-975671-1.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Devil's Doorway (Wisconsin)
Dumelow (talk) 13:26, 19 September 2024 (UTC).
- @Dumelow: Another interesting article and perfect for DYK. I prefer ALT0 as interesting and confirmed with citation in the article based on the pull out detailed under the hook. I suggest adding the dates that this station operated in the lead. It was nominated seven days after creation so it is new enough and at 6371 characters it is long enough. The QPQ is done and Earwig does not find evidence of plagiarism. We could use some attention on a few minor things prior to approval.
- I suggest adding the dates that this station was operating somewhere in the lead and body.
- MOS:AMPM I think it should be: 6 am 8 am, and should the word broadcast be broadcasted? Here is the sentence: "It broadcast between 6pm and 8am daily on a number of shortwave channels".
- Maybe other words for the phrase "to this end" as it feels conversational and is an informal idiom. Here is the sentence: "To this end some of the staff were German defectors, including Otto John, Richard Wurmann". Maybe "In order to achieve this goal" or something similar.
- Sentence in the article: "To make the station attractive to listeners it broadcast the latest in popular dance music" Same question about the word broadcast
- Sentence "it might involve an attempt for vessels to break out to the far east" should Far East be capitalized? and linked to Far East. I cannot access the source so not sure if it is the same thing.
- Hi Bruxton, thanks for the review. I have made the edits you've suggested. I held off on the "broadcast" ones as Arjayay picked up on one already ("broadcasted" -> "broadcast"). I don't do much in the radio sphere so will defer to them (and perhaps Sammi Brie as the resident DYK radio expert might assist?). Thanks - Dumelow (talk) 21:09, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- "Broadcast" as a past-tense verb is perfectly fine and preferred to "broadcasted". Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 21:27, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Dumelow: Thank you for the quick action. And @Sammi Brie: thank you for looking, I was unsure. Bruxton (talk) 21:43, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- "Broadcast" as a past-tense verb is perfectly fine and preferred to "broadcasted". Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 21:27, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Bruxton, thanks for the review. I have made the edits you've suggested. I held off on the "broadcast" ones as Arjayay picked up on one already ("broadcasted" -> "broadcast"). I don't do much in the radio sphere so will defer to them (and perhaps Sammi Brie as the resident DYK radio expert might assist?). Thanks - Dumelow (talk) 21:09, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
Pat Ragusa, Alan Pringle
- ... that Pat Ragusa and Alan Pringle are the sole Venezuelans ever to play in the NFL?
- Source: PFR
- ALT1: ... that the only two Venezuelans to ever make the NFL, Pat Ragusa and Alan Pringle, played a combined four games? Source: same
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Samuel Conrad Schwach / Template:Did you know nominations/Isaac Vincent
BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:10, 26 September 2024 (UTC).
- Two QPQs done. Pat Ragusa starting expansion seven days before nomination. No OR or copyvio issues found in use of Gelberg source (although perhaps it doesn't need so many repeat citations). Article is otherwise presentable. Alan Pringle similarly expanded within the week timeframe. Can't access the newspaper sources here, but checked the stats ones and they same in order.Hook source is Pro Football Reference, who at a quick look around reliable for simple data. The data at any rate aligns with the prose in the articles. This seems good to go. CMD (talk) 06:54, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
45 East 66th Street
- ... that tenants of a New York City apartment building protested its owner by going to a racetrack and betting on his horse? Source: Goldstein, Marilyn (June 9, 1974). "Pickets at Belmont—Some Side Action". Newsday. p. 3; Baker, Sybil (June 9, 1974). "Picketed Landlord Gets His Lumps at Race-Track". Daily News. p. 120
- ALT1: ... that tenants of a New York City apartment building bet on the building's owner's horse in an attempt to raise money for an elevator operator? Source: Baker, Sybil (June 9, 1974). "Picketed Landlord Gets His Lumps at Race-Track". Daily News. p. 120
- ALT2: ... that the owner of 45 East 66th Street was once required to hire an elevator operator even though he had just installed an automatic elevator? Source: Kaiser, Charles (January 26, 1975). "East Siders Fight Landlord on Cuts". The New York Times.
- ALT3: ... that a former New York City mayor opposed a penthouse apartment above his apartment building because he lived on the building's top floor? Source: Kodé, Anna (August 29, 2023). "Giuliani's Upper East Side Apartment Is for Sale". The New York Times.
- ALT4: ... that 45 East 66th Street was once called a "high-water mark in early apartment styling"? Source: Gray, Christopher (October 16, 1988). "Streetscapes: 45 East 66th Street; For a Jewel on the East Side, A Loving Facade Restoration". The New York Times.
- Reviewed: Shengli Oil Field
Epicgenius (talk) 21:10, 19 September 2024 (UTC).
- Article is new and long enough, neutral, sourced, copyvio-free, and presentable. The hooks are cited to a reliable source and are interesting, I'd prefer ALT0. Images are properly licensed. QPQ done. Looks ready to me. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 12:26, 20 September 2024 (UTC)
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editBattle of Kembogo
- ... that rebel fighters pursued their fleeing enemies during the Battle of Kembogo because they wanted new boots?
- Source: Kainerugaba, Muhoozi (2010). Battles of the Ugandan Resistance: A Tradition of Maneuver. Kampala: Fountain Publishers, p. 133, quote: "'Our men were all intent on physically laying hands on the enemy' continued Kavuma. Somebody had put out the word that Special Brigade had recently been supplied with new boots; it became the personal mission of every soldier in Mobile Brigade to get a pair".
Applodion (talk) 18:34, 22 September 2024 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:20, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
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Samuel Conrad Schwach
- ... that Samuel Conrad Schwach founded the first newspaper in Norway in 1763?
- ALT1: ... that Prussian-born Samuel Conrad Schwach founded the first newspaper in Norway? Source: https://snl.no/Samuel_Conrad_Schwach
- ALT2: ... that Prussian-born Samuel Conrad Schwach founded the first newspaper in Norway in 1763? Source: https://snl.no/Samuel_Conrad_Schwach
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- Comment: Norske Intelligenz-Seddeler has been previously featured on DYK in 2009.
Sebbog13 (talk) 21:44, 20 September 2024 (UTC).
- Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:08, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: New and just long enough. No QPQ required. Looks good to go. BeanieFan11 (talk) 20:42, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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editThe True Record
- ... that The True Record (pictured) closed shortly after implicating Provisional President Yuan Shikai in the assassination of Song Jiaoren?
- Source: Floriani, Giulia Pra (2023). "Photographic Portraits of Leaders of the 1911 Revolution: The Promise of Historical Rupture in the Chinese Republican Press". In Satterthwaite, Tim; Thacker, Andrew (eds.). Magazines and Modern Identities: Global Cultures of the Illustrated Press, 1880–1945. Bloomsbury. ISBN 978-1-350-27865-3. "By implicitly accusing Yuan Shikai of Song Jiaoren's death, the Gao brothers condemned The True Record to a premature end."
- ALT1: ... that the ideas of aesthetic education conveyed by the The True Record (pictured) may have informed the May Fourth Movement? Source: Pan Yaochang (潘耀昌) Xu Li (徐立) (2011). "上海早期都市文艺先锋 ———《真相画报》" [Shanghai's Early Urban Art Pioneer - "The True Record"] (PDF). Journal of Shanghai University (in Chinese): 131–140. (Quote: 画报所设想的通过探索都市新美术,倡导中西融合以提升中华民族文化内涵的举措,从某种角度而言,为五四运动时期倡导“美育”思想做了铺垫。The pictorial's idea of exploring new urban art and advocating the integration of Chinese and Western cultures to enhance the cultural connotation of the Chinese nation, in a sense, paved the way for the advocacy of "aesthetic education" during the May Fourth Movement.)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Punam Krishan
— Chris Woodrich (talk) 15:30, 21 September 2024 (UTC).
- Verified that the article is long enough, that there are no plagiarism concerns through the Copyvios tool and spotchecking, and that the hook is sourced in the article. Cunard (talk) 09:41, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Both hooks are verified and interesting. The image is in the public domain. Impressive research on this very interesting article on an important topic! Cunard (talk) 09:41, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 22
editFrancis W. Kelly
- ... that Marine chaplain Francis W. Kelly (pictured) was known as "Father Foxhole" for his insistence on being on the front lines of the Pacific Theater?
- Source: Fitzpatrick, Frank (Apr 15, 2018). "Saga of Philly's 'Father Foxhole'". The Philadelphia Inquirer. Retrieved 21 September 2024.
- ALT1: ... that Chaplain Francis W. Kelly (pictured), who participated in the World War II battles of Guadalcanal, Tarawa, Okinawa and Iwo Jima, was known as "Father Foxhole" for his insistence on being on the front lines? Source: Fitzpatrick, Frank (Apr 15, 2018). "Saga of Philly's 'Father Foxhole'". The Philadelphia Inquirer. Retrieved 21 September 2024.
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~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 05:02, 23 September 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Darth Stabro, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 23 September and exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout; I don't have access to all of the sources but they look to be reliable and I didn't find any issues with overly close paraphrasing on a spotcheck of ones I could access; for the image do you have any evidence it was taken by a serving US military person, other than the setting of it? Its immediate source is a US newspaper. Hook is interesting but the nickname is only mentioned in the lead and that it was awarded for "his insistence on being on the front lines" isn't mentioned.
- @Dumelow: I'll get confirmation from the PA Veterans Museum that it is a USMC image but all evidence suggests it being an official portrait. I've placed and sourced more into on the nickname.~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 15:23, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, give me a ping when you hear back and I'll pop back to complete the review. As you say the photo is almost certainly taken for official purposes but good to have confirmation - Dumelow (talk) 15:26, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- Howdy @Dumelow:, I've just got off the phone with the PA Veterans Museum where the Inquirer got the photo from and they confirmed that the photo is an official military photo and in the public domain. ~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 18:23, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Darth Stabro, image looks good. My only hang up is on the "because of his insistence on being on the front lines" bit of the hook. I don't think this is explicitly stated in the article. We have "Kelly's time as a chaplain was marked by an insistence on being on the front lines" and "The Marines of his division became so accustomed to seeing him that they nicknamed him "Father Foxhole" or "Foxhole Kelly"" but the two aren't linked directly. I'm happy to approve both hooks without the "insistence" part or perhaps you can suggest something? - Dumelow (talk) 09:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah, that makes sense Dumelow. How about was known as "Father Foxhole" for his consistent presence on the front lines? (I have no preference on which hook, whichever you think is best) ~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 17:33, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Darth Stabro, image looks good. My only hang up is on the "because of his insistence on being on the front lines" bit of the hook. I don't think this is explicitly stated in the article. We have "Kelly's time as a chaplain was marked by an insistence on being on the front lines" and "The Marines of his division became so accustomed to seeing him that they nicknamed him "Father Foxhole" or "Foxhole Kelly"" but the two aren't linked directly. I'm happy to approve both hooks without the "insistence" part or perhaps you can suggest something? - Dumelow (talk) 09:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Howdy @Dumelow:, I've just got off the phone with the PA Veterans Museum where the Inquirer got the photo from and they confirmed that the photo is an official military photo and in the public domain. ~Darth StabroTalk/Contribs 18:23, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks, give me a ping when you hear back and I'll pop back to complete the review. As you say the photo is almost certainly taken for official purposes but good to have confirmation - Dumelow (talk) 15:26, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- ALT2: ... that Marine chaplain Francis W. Kelly (pictured) was known as "Father Foxhole" for his presence on the front lines of the Pacific Theater?
- ALT3: ... that Chaplain Francis W. Kelly (pictured), who participated in the World War II battles of Guadalcanal, Tarawa, Okinawa and Iwo Jima, was known as "Father Foxhole"?
- Approving ALT2 and ALT3 above. I don't yet have newspapers.com access but happy to AGF that the source supports the statement in the article " The Marines of his division became so accustomed to seeing him that they nicknamed him 'Father Foxhole'"; seems to be corroborated elsewhere anyway - Dumelow (talk) 20:01, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Malaysia Monument
- ... that the Chinese community of Kota Kinabalu sponsored the creation of the Malaysia Monument (pictured) just 20 days before it needed to be completed to mark the formation of Malaysia? Source: Daily Express
CMD (talk) 06:36, 22 September 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: A picture of the monument would help and it's not clear why one of the article's pictures has not been nominated. Andrew🐉(talk) 09:12, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- A good question, to which the answer is that I did not think about that at all. I quite like the infobox image, which captured the monument with the state and national flags around it. If others disagree, I can try to find another. CMD (talk) 10:18, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 23
editHistory of education in Wales before 1701
- ... that Oliver Cromwell tried to educate the people of Wales?
Source: Jones, Gareth Elwyn; Roderick, Gordon Wynne (2003). History of Education in Wales. University of Wales Press. ISBN 978-0708318089. (pp. 17-20)
Llewee (talk) 13:35, 26 September 2024 (UTC).
- QPQ done, GA nom confirmed within date, article is good (refs, copyvio spotcheck, etc.). I do have some concerns about the hook, however, which might be a bit too bland, but more worrisome, I read it as a bit condescending to the "people of Wales". Perhaps another hook can be proposed (or a second opinion offered on the one here, if the nom would like to continue with it)? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:31, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Piotrus, it's not a great hook. A better one might be... Llewee (talk) 22:29, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
ALT1: ... that a clergyman from London established 87 schools in Wales?
- I am fine with ALT1, although I'd suggest adding "already before 18th century" to it. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:29, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
Sainsbury's, Greenwich
- ... that President of South Africa Jacob Zuma requested a tour of a Sainsbury's store in Greenwich (pictured) during his state visit to the United Kingdom in 2010?
- Source: "Jacob Zuma visits a branch of Sainsbury’s in southeast London, yesterday, where not even his entourage could distract everyone. ... He had requested the tour on his three-day state visit because of the amount of trade the company does with South Africa." President Zuma visits Sainsbury’s but shoppers are engrossed by cheese
- ALT1: ... that despite having been opened in 1999 and shortlisted for the RIBA Stirling Prize, Sainsbury's, Greenwich (pictured) was demolished in 2016 after an application to make it a listed building was rejected? Source: "The building’s innovation and architectural merit were recognised through a number of awards, including: shortlisting for the RIBA Stirling Prize; ... C20 Society fought to have the building listed at grade II *, but following English Heritage’s recommendation that it was not good enough, the Secretary of State decided to issue a certificate of immunity. The building was demolished in 2016 and replaced with an IKEA store." Lost Modern: Sainsbury’s, Greenwich, London
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- Comment: First time doing this so please let me know if I've got anything wrong!
Gazamp (talk) 23:40, 23 September 2024 (UTC).
- Hi Gazamp, fantastic article. I can remember this building being demolished so soon after it was built, an outrage for sustainable construction. Review: article created 23 September and far exceeds minimum length; article is well written and cited inline throughout to reliable sources; I didn't pick up any issues with overly close paraphrasing in a spotcheck on sources cited; hook facts are interesting, mentioned in article and check out to sources cited; image is appropriate and freely licensed. Looks great to me, keep up the good work! - Dumelow (talk) 07:11, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Meant to say, I would consider adding "built in 1999" or "2000" before Stirling Prize to emphasise how new this structure was when it was demolished but down to personal preference - Dumelow (talk) 07:12, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your comments! I've added "opened in 1999" since that's what the source given says - let me know if there's any problems with that. Thanks, Gazamp (talk) 16:51, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Meant to say, I would consider adding "built in 1999" or "2000" before Stirling Prize to emphasise how new this structure was when it was demolished but down to personal preference - Dumelow (talk) 07:12, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 24
editNoken system
- ... that the noken system used for voting in parts of Indonesia produces turnouts of 100%? Source: It is then not surprising if in several districts the turnout rates reached 100 percent on the fnal tally results (page 80)
- ALT1: ... that the Constitutional Court of Indonesia approved of the noken system of voting, despite it having no legal basis? Source: the Noken system, which is not provided for by any state laws or regulations,..what is significant from this case is not the court's approval of a fresh round of elections, but rather its acceptance of local (Papua) customs and practices in local elections (ie the Noken system)
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Veto (card game)
- Comment: Other hook ideas welcome!
CMD (talk) 20:45, 24 September 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: I was wondering when this would be an article! Great work on it. New enough, long enough, sourced, neutral, plagiarism free. Hooks are cited and interesting. QPQ is complete. Per your invitation, I would like to suggest the following hook for consideration:
- ALT2: ... the Constitutional Court of Indonesia ruled that the noken system is a valid method of electoral choice, reflecting customary practices and decreasing conflict? Ornithoptera (talk) 01:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- May be worth changing the end to "stating that it reflects customary practices and decreases conflict?" to make it clear that this is the view of the court and not a wikivoice statement. CMD (talk) 04:10, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Battle of Axspoele
- ... that the 1128 Battle of Axspoele (participant pictured) was a rare case of a mass cavalry charge in western Europe in the High Middle Ages?
- Source: "in the west battle was uncommon and mass cavalry charges were rate ... only at Axspoele on 21 June 1128 was there anything resembling a mass cavalry charge and here numbers were small" from: France, John (15 May 2017). Medieval Warfare 1000–1300. Routledge. p. 60. ISBN 978-1-351-91847-3.
- ALT1: ... that before his victory at the 1128 Battle of Axspoele William Clito (pictured) ordered his knights to cut their hair and remove opulent clothing as a sign of penance? Source: "before battle he had all his knights cur off their long hair, cast off their rich garments and do penance for their sins as if they were expecting death" from: Crouch, David (15 October 2006). The Normans: The History of a Dynasty. A&C Black. p. 332. ISBN 978-1-85285-595-6.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Francis W. Kelly
- Comment: After creating this I realised the subject was already covered in a very short orphan article at Battle of Thielt (1128) which I have since redirected to this article. The new content is more than 5x the content here in any case.
Dumelow (talk) 18:17, 24 September 2024 (UTC).
- Article is new enough and long enough; more than 5x longer than short START article (under a different title) that it replaced; appears to have adequate references though they cannot be read on-line so sources are taken in good faith; both hook facts have in-line citations; hooks are both appropriate length; I think the first hook is better than ALT1, but either could be used; image is in Public Domain.Orygun (talk) 05:54, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
How You Get the Girl
- ... that the choreography of this Taylor Swift song, performed during the 1989 World Tour, was inspired by the 1952 musical Singin' in the Rain?
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Overall: Article is well balanced, sourced and written from a neutral point of view. It is new enough, as it has been moved from draftspace within the last 7 days and the earwig tool found no signs of copyright violation or plagiarism. The hooks are interesting enough and the sources provided are reliable. Well done, Wolverine XI (talk to me) 10:19, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- personally, i feel that the original hook is suitable (because of the image) also bc i have less than 5 dyk noms, qpq doesn't really apply to me (yet) brachy08 (chat here lol) 10:41, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- If that's the case, then you should probably remove the second hook. Wolverine XI (talk to me) 10:46, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
removed brachy08 (chat here lol) 11:14, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 25
editFarnese Artemis
- ... that while the objects on the Farnese Artemis have earlier been identified as female breasts, the Museum housing the statue now claims that they depict bull scrotums?
Source: Mann: "Maggiore attenzione è sempre stata posta sull’interpretazione delle protuberanze del busto: si è già detto sulla possibilità di trovarsi dinanzi a delle mammelle, alludendo quindi al potere della fertilità. Tuttavia, contro questa ipotesi si contesta che le parti anatomiche, in quasi tutte le migliori repliche, sono scolpite in pietra nera (o bronzo), mentre le mammelle si presentano come tutto l’apparato decorativo (in alabastro), vedendo in esse, quindi, dei semplici ornamenti. Molto più accreditata la possibilità che si tratti della rappresentazione di scroti di toro offerti alla dea durante cerimonie sacrificali. Del resto, in un culto declinato quasi esclusivamente al femminile, in cui il sacerdote officiante era un eunuco, le sacerdotesse erano vergini e le devote giovani donne non ancora sposate, gli scroti di tori rappresenterebbero un forte simbolo del potere di Artemide sugli uomini, garante della fertilità e della futura prosperità per tutti i suoi fedeli. Probabile, inoltre, che in un culto iniziatico questi scroti, come delle “sacche”, contenessero del miele, e che sulle mani venissero posti fiori e api (simboli che ricorrono anche lungo l’ependytes) in segno di devozione; in tal modo la dea veniva venerata come un’ape regina e la città diveniva il suo alveare. Non è un caso infatti che uno dei simboli di Efeso fosse proprio l’ape, come è attestato dai una serie di rinvenimenti numismatici."
Translation: More attention has always been paid to the interpretation of the protuberances of the bust: we have already mentioned the possibility of breasts, thus alluding to the power of fertility. However, against this hypothesis it is disputed that the anatomical parts, in almost all the best replicas, are carved in black stone (or bronze), while the breasts are presented as the entire decorative apparatus (in alabaster), thus seeing them as mere ornaments. Much more credible is the possibility that they are the representation of bull scrotums offered to the goddess during sacrificial ceremonies.
Moreover, in an almost exclusively female-dominated cult, in which the officiating priest was a eunuch, the priestesses were virgins and the devotees young women not yet married, bull scrotums would represent a strong symbol of Artemis' power over men, the guarantor of fertility and future prosperity for all her worshippers. It is also probable that in an initiatory cult these scrotums, like ‘sacs’, contained honey, and that flowers and bees (symbols that also recur along the ependytes) were placed on the hands as a sign of devotion; thus the goddess was worshipped as a queen bee and the city became her hive. Indeed, it is no coincidence that one of the symbols of Ephesus was the bee, as attested by a series of numismatic finds.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Brussels Party Conference of the Communist Party of Germany
(will review in the coming hours)Review done.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Brussels Party Conference of the Communist Party of Germany
WatkynBassett (talk) 08:23, 28 September 2024 (UTC).
- Will go through this nomination. Interesting stuff. PanagiotisZois (talk) 18:14, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
Review: Things on the article and technical things.
- OK, the article is both new enough and big enough. It was created only a few days ago on September 25, and is more than 3000 characters.
- The copyvio tool found only 14.5%, so that checks out.
- The article cites only three sources, which admittedly isn't much. But they all seem to be reliable.
- QPQ has been done.
The hook itself:
- The hook itself is properly cited and appears in the article. One small issue I have here is that the source itself is a primary one that comes from the museum, rather than a secondary one. However, given than this is a museum, and one that has been in operation since 1777, I think it is acceptable.
- The hook its is also short enough, having a prose size of less than 200 characters.
- The hook is also quite interesting. I'm sure the references to women's breasts and bull scrotums are definitely going to catch people's attention. I'm still thinking if maybe the sentence could be slightly reworded. Would you oppose changing it to "that while the objects on the Farnese Artemis had initially been identified as female breasts"? Using the past tense "had" instead of "have" seems more appropriate here. Also, from my understanding, the belief that the objects on Artemis' chest are breast is one that was there from the very beginning this statue was discovered and housed in the museum. Using "initially" feels more appropriate than "earlier".
- Besides that, "that the objects on the Farnese Artemis, initially identified as female breasts, are now claimed by the Museum housing the statue to depict bull scrotums?" is another alternative.
- The image used to support the hook is free. However, one thing I'm wondering is if it'd be better to use this image instead? Given that the discussion is on the objects on Artemis' chest, using a close-up seems more appropriate.
@WatkynBassett: Overall, interesting article. I'd definitely like to learn more about the statue if you decide to expand the article in the future. As for the hook, I'm leaning close to approving, although I have a few questions. However, all of my questions/suggestions are not things I'm uncompromising on. If you think the hook is all right as is, I can be convinced to leave it. PanagiotisZois (talk) 18:51, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- @PanagiotisZois: I feel your frustration with the scarcity of cited sources. Usually, I am quite good at accessing even quite obscure sources. But the Italian sources cited in the bibliography section of the museum's text eluded my digital access.
- Your wording advice concerning the hook is well considered. I think using "had initially" is indeed a preferable choice. So I would propose
- ALT1: "... that while the objects on the Farnese Artemis had initially been identified as female breasts, the Museum housing the statue now claims that they depict bull scrotums?"
- Your suggestion concerning the image is one which I gave some thought before bringing this article to DYK. I agree that the image proposed by you is in principle much better suited because the objects in question are better visible. However, I thought that this image is a bit out of focus and thus not "clear". So maybe we could leave the image choice to the expert promoter?
- Thank you for your valuable time reviewing this nomination! WatkynBassett (talk) 06:55, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
@WatkynBassett: Thank you for rewording the hook. I am inclined to agree that an issue with the alternate image is that it isn't centered. One thing I do appreciate about the full-body image is that it supports the source's argument that only Artemis' body parts are depicted in black, while her clothing (including the sacks) is depicted as white alabaster. I do agree that it's probably best for the issue regarding the image to be left up to the people that end up placing the DYN nominations on the main page. Hope you do more work with this article. However, on my end, I will pass this nomination for ALT 1 as is with the full-body image.
It would be interesting if someone ended up making a whole article about Ephesian Artemis one day and her differences from her "mainstream" counterpart. Thank you for bringing up this topic to our attention. PanagiotisZois (talk) 14:20, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- @PanagiotisZois and WatkynBassett: the suggested image replacement is actually a little unclear at main page size; I think File:Ártemis efesia Nápoles 01.JPG would work better. What do you think? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:11, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- @WatkynBassett: You're the nominator, but I do think this image works better than the previous one. PanagiotisZois (talk) 18:36, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- @PanagiotisZois and AirshipJungleman29: I see pros and cons: This image shows the "objects" quite well, while the intricate head of the statue is not visable. I defer to the judgement of the promoter. WatkynBassett (talk) 19:52, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- @WatkynBassett: I may have mistaken your comment about the image showing the statue's head. To provide one more option, I decide to take your original image choice and create a cropped version showing it only from the belt and up. This image does help enhance the argument that only Artemis' body parts are black, while everything else is white, while also displaying the breasts/scrotums more clearly and closely than the original image did; File:Artemis of Ephesus MAN Napoli Inv6278 (Cropped; torso, head, and hands).jpg. Unless you think one of the other images is better, I would go with this one.PanagiotisZois (talk) 21:36, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- This is why I love Wikipedia sometimes, collaborating for the common good. This crop is clearly the best and I fully endorse it! Thanks a lot, PanagiotisZois! WatkynBassett (talk) 05:36, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- @WatkynBassett: I may have mistaken your comment about the image showing the statue's head. To provide one more option, I decide to take your original image choice and create a cropped version showing it only from the belt and up. This image does help enhance the argument that only Artemis' body parts are black, while everything else is white, while also displaying the breasts/scrotums more clearly and closely than the original image did; File:Artemis of Ephesus MAN Napoli Inv6278 (Cropped; torso, head, and hands).jpg. Unless you think one of the other images is better, I would go with this one.PanagiotisZois (talk) 21:36, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- @PanagiotisZois and AirshipJungleman29: I see pros and cons: This image shows the "objects" quite well, while the intricate head of the statue is not visable. I defer to the judgement of the promoter. WatkynBassett (talk) 19:52, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- @WatkynBassett: You're the nominator, but I do think this image works better than the previous one. PanagiotisZois (talk) 18:36, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Adele de Dombasle
... that French divorcee Adèle de Dombasle travelled to Polynesia in 1847 working as an illustrator, drawing people such as Queen Pōmare IV (pictured)?Source: "Adèle de Dombasle managed to produce several tens of drawings during her travels in Polynesia (and Chile). These represent monuments and sites from the Marquesas, Tahitian and Marquesan inhabitants with elements of material culture, landscapes and portraits—including from historical figures such as Queen Pomaré." & "In 1848, a young French divorcée11 who had sailed across two oceans, from Bordeaux to the Marquesas Islands" in https://archaeologybulletin.org/articles/10.5334/bha-656- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Spearfishing at the Micronesian Games
- Comment: I expanded it from a very tiny stub!
Lajmmoore (talk) 18:19, 26 September 2024 (UTC).
- An interesting article, I will review shortly. TSventon (talk) 19:05, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Lajmmoore:, The article is well written (and no longer an orphan). It is clearly 5x expanded, new enough and long enough. No POV problems and no obvious copyvio via Earwig. Images are from 1847 so no copyright problems.
- QPQ has been completed.
- The hook is intriguing, but could you double check that the hook facts are in the article with references following immediately. I couldn't find "divorcee", "travelled to Polynesia in 1847" is OK, "working as an illustrator" and "drawing people such as Queen Pōmare IV" are not immediately followed by references.
- The hook image is interesting and free to use.TSventon (talk) 22:22, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Another hook issue, note 11 in the source says she was "More precisely, separated from her husband, as recorded in French archives under the 19th century legal term separée de corps (de la Grandville 2001: 22)." fr:Séparation de corps en France looks like separation rather than divorce. TSventon (talk) 13:41, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks very much TSventon I think I have picked up these issues and those on the talk page. I'll propose a tweaked ALT so as to not include the marriage details:
- ALT1 ... that Adèle de Dombasle helped pioneer women's exploration in Oceania and worked as an illustrator, drawing people such as Queen Pōmare IV (pictured)? Source: "Adèle de Dombasle managed to produce several tens of drawings during her travels in Polynesia (and Chile). These represent monuments and sites from the Marquesas, Tahitian and Marquesan inhabitants with elements of material culture, landscapes and portraits—including from historical figures such as Queen Pomaré." & the pioneer statement derives from the section in https://archaeologybulletin.org/articles/10.5334/bha-656 "Finding the Pacific Matildas" (first paragraph) Lajmmoore (talk) 19:58, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Lajmmoore:, thank you, I can approve Alt1 and have struck Alt0. TSventon (talk) 22:47, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note to promoters: the image should not be used per WP:DYKIMG ("avoid images that divert readers from the bolded article into a side article"). ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:28, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 26
editNeutron stars in fiction
- ... that in fiction, neutron stars (pictured) harbour exotic lifeforms in their vicinity, on their surface, and even in their interior?
TompaDompa (talk) 21:54, 26 September 2024 (UTC).
- Approve hook and image Huh, I was just reading about usages of neutron stars in fiction the other day, so this is a funny coincidence (wait, I think I was literally reading the hook source article, whoa). Article was approved for GA on the 26th, so is new enough. At around 7000 characters, it is long enough. The article properly uses in-line citations and the copyvio detector finds no issues outside of the direct quotes used. The hook reads neutrally, is cited in-line (said reference is used in-line for much of the article besides, so easily meets that), and is interesting. The QPQ has been done and the image suggested is in the public domain and views fine on a smaller scale. Looks good to go! SilverserenC 02:39, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 27
editHarold C. Hinton
- ... that Harold C. Hinton was one of the only American academics to study the Communist China under McCarthyism?
- Source: Shambaugh, David (1994). "Harold C. Hinton Remembered (1924–93)". The China Quarterly. 137. https://doi.org/10.1017/S0305741000034123
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 18:33, 28 September 2024 (UTC).
- Article is new enough and in decent shape. Hook is interesting and reliably-sourced (though technically to a quote, should still be fine). QPQ is also valid. (Also, this isn't a DYK issue but: are any of his books notable? May be worth redlinking.) Elli (talk | contribs) 22:03, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Sun Jianai
... that Sun Jianai co-founded China's first national university in 1898?
- Source: Lin, Xiaoqing Diana (2005). Peking University: Chinese Scholarship and Intellectuals, 1898–1937. pp 15-27
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 05:25, 28 September 2024 (UTC).
- Interesting article, thanks. I will review this shortly. Onceinawhile (talk) 09:52, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Generalissima: are you sure it's correct to say that Sun "founded" the university? The article doesn't quite state it in that way. It seems that technically the university was established by the first edict of the Guangxu Emperor as part of the Hundred Days' Reform? If it is correct, was he the sole founder or a co-founder? Onceinawhile (talk) 11:34, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Onceinawhile: Good point; changed it to "co-founded". Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 16:07, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi @Generalissima: sorry to be difficult but are you sure that is right? It doesn't say founder or co-founder anywhere in the article. This source says:
"On July 3, 1898, Emperor Guangxu approved a report to implement the Imperial University of Peking and to draft its charter. Sun Jianai, a senior Chinese official, was appointed “guanli daxuetang shiwu dachen,” or the (education) minister for the imperial university's affairs."
The "guanli daxuetang shiwu dachen" is zh:Category:管理大学堂事务大臣. If we are to use co-founder we will need a source stating that. Onceinawhile (talk) 19:10, 30 September 2024 (UTC)- @Onceinawhile: I felt that "was tasked to organize" works for "co-founded", but I'm okay deferring to an slightly alternate hook. How about
Alt1:… that Sun Jianai organized China's first national university in 1898?
(again citing the Lin 2005 source) Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 20:31, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Onceinawhile: I felt that "was tasked to organize" works for "co-founded", but I'm okay deferring to an slightly alternate hook. How about
- Hi @Generalissima: sorry to be difficult but are you sure that is right? It doesn't say founder or co-founder anywhere in the article. This source says:
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Overall: ALT1 good to go! Onceinawhile (talk) 21:08, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Peck Building
- ... that the largest video game studio in the world is headquartered in a former textile factory?
"Lorsque Christophe Derennes, aujourd’hui directeur général d’Ubisoft Montréal, s’est installé avec sa famille dans la métropole québécoise en 1997, il était loin de se douter que, 25 ans plus tard, le studio du quartier Mile-End deviendrait le plus important au monde, fort de ses 4000 personnes employées. [...] Ubisoft Montréal occupe les bureaux de l'édifice Peck depuis ses débuts dans le métropole québécoise."
Google-translated from French : "When Christophe Derennes, now general manager of Ubisoft Montreal, moved with his family to the Quebec metropolis in 1997, he was far from suspecting that, 25 years later, the studio in the Mile End district would become the largest in the world, with 4,000 employees. [...] Ubisoft Montreal has occupied the offices of the Peck Building since its beginnings in the Quebec metropolis."- Reviewed:
WikiFouf (talk) 19:03, 29 September 2024 (UTC).
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- Interesting: - Is this still true today? The source is from 2009, but the article doesn't mention this. Also, do all of the 1,900 employees work in the building?
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Overall: @WikiFouf: Nice work on the article. However, I had a concern about the hook. Epicgenius (talk) 14:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Epicgenius the source I included is not the 2009 NYT one, it's from 2022. As for where the employees work, good point, I'm pretty sure Ubisoft Montreal also owns some neighbouring smaller buildings. It could say "headquartered" instead of "housed" - WikiFouf (talk) 15:30, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Or "mainly housed" - WikiFouf (talk) 15:33, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiFouf, yeah, "headquartered" sounds good if you want to make that change. I was looking at the wrong source; my bad. Once you propose a revised hook, I can formally review it. Epicgenius (talk) 15:43, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Epicgenius Perf! Noob question, sorry, can I just edit the hook on the DYK page or do I have to resubmit another one? - WikiFouf (talk) 15:53, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiFouf, editing the hook here is fine. You don't need to create another nomination/hook. Epicgenius (talk) 16:34, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Epicgenius done thanks! @Epicgenius WikiFouf (talk) 17:35, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Looks good to me. (Also, @WikiFouf, I noticed you linked to my talk page. I do not get pings from these; I only receive notifications if you link my user page. This is just a heads-up in case you didn't know.) Epicgenius (talk) 20:31, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Epicgenius Oh right thanks, hadn't noticed:) - WikiFouf (talk) 16:50, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Looks good to me. (Also, @WikiFouf, I noticed you linked to my talk page. I do not get pings from these; I only receive notifications if you link my user page. This is just a heads-up in case you didn't know.) Epicgenius (talk) 20:31, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Epicgenius done thanks! @Epicgenius WikiFouf (talk) 17:35, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiFouf, editing the hook here is fine. You don't need to create another nomination/hook. Epicgenius (talk) 16:34, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Epicgenius Perf! Noob question, sorry, can I just edit the hook on the DYK page or do I have to resubmit another one? - WikiFouf (talk) 15:53, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- @WikiFouf, yeah, "headquartered" sounds good if you want to make that change. I was looking at the wrong source; my bad. Once you propose a revised hook, I can formally review it. Epicgenius (talk) 15:43, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Or "mainly housed" - WikiFouf (talk) 15:33, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 28
editWilf Perreault
- ... that Wilf Perreault's art work was influenced by artists such as Reta Cowley and Dorothy Knowles?
- Source: Fudge, Paul (1981-10-23). "Wilf Perreault's brush makes back alleys and lanes exciting". The Leader-Post. Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada. p. 18. Retrieved 2024-09-28.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Statue of John Stockton
- Comment: Article came from draft today after 960 days. Images have all gone though VRT. COI has been properly addressed on authors user page and though the AfC process. Might be of interest for anyone interested in Canada and the Arts.
Dr vulpes (Talk) 15:48, 28 September 2024 (UTC).
- Article is new enough (just out of draft space), long enough and appropriately referenced. The images have appropriate permissions (CC-BY-SA etc). No copyvio problems. The hook is short enough, but perhaps is missing a word or two - are they landscape painters? Is there anything surprising about this? Should the hook link to these two as well? It probably just needs a tweak Chaiten1 (talk) 17:54, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- How does this sound? Dr vulpes (Talk) 22:36, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- ALT1: ... that Wilf Perreault's artwork of landscapes and alleyways was influenced by artists such as Reta Cowley and Dorothy Knowles?
- This looks good to me - QPQ done, and no other issues. Thank you! Chaiten1 (talk) 07:22, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
Blanche Badcock
- ... that a poultry farmer was the first woman to shoot for the Sovereign's Prize, the highest honour in British rifle shooting?
- Source: Kay, Joyce (2004-09-23). Foster, Marjorie Elaine (1893–1974), Rifle Shot and Poultry Farmer. Vol. 1. Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/ref:odnb/65174.
- ALT1: ... that when Blanche Badcock took up rifle shooting at Bisley, only one club would accept her? Source: Kay, Joyce (2004-09-23). Foster, Marjorie Elaine (1893–1974), Rifle Shot and Poultry Farmer. Vol. 1. Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/ref:odnb/65174.
- ALT2: ... that Blanche Badcock shared a top score in a shooting match with her partner, Marjorie Foster, beating all six men on the team? Source: Reader, Jean (2021). "Reginald Cory, Blanche Badcock and a Poultry Farm in Surrey" (PDF). Welsh Historical Gardens Trust Bulletin. 80: 25–27.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Michael Chisholm (geographer)
UndercoverClassicist T·C 14:46, 28 September 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: Consider changing King's Prize to Sovereign's, since that's what's cited in the the OUP, though I understand this may be an anachronism. Will leave up to the promoter; otherwise good to go. ThaesOfereode (talk) 22:34, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks -- "Sovereign's Prize" and "King's Prize" are the same thing, though there's another argument for "Sovereign's" (that no woman had ever shot for the prize while Victoria was on the throne). I've made that change. UndercoverClassicist T·C 10:19, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 29
editWing Sam Chinn
- ... that Wing Sam Chinn combined Chinese and Beaux-Arts architecture in his design for a Seattle building (pictured)?
- Source: David A. Rash, Chong Wa Benevolent Association Building. https://sah-archipedia.org/buildings/WA-01-033-0064
Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 02:39, 30 September 2024 (UTC).
- New enough GA (what a really cool subject!). Hook is fascinating and within the parameters. Image looks good to go for running on the main page—maybe I'll write an article for the building? QPQ done. No concerns regarding refs, copyvio, etc. Great work! ~ Pbritti (talk) 03:46, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Neurocysticercosis
- ... that neurocysticercosis has been referred to as the "great imitator" because it can mimic many other neurological disorders? Source: Garcia et al. 2014: " In endemic areas, neurocysticercosis is regarded as the great imitator because it can mimic almost any neurological disorder."
- ALT1: ... that Küchenmeister showed that the consumption of cysticercus from pork caused human intestinal taeniasis by feeding a prisoner food that had cysticerci gathered from a recently killed pig? Source: Del Brutto et al. 2015: "Küchenmeister demonstrated that ingestion of cysticercus from pork resulted in human intestinal taeniasis, by feeding a convicted man, condemned to death, with sausages and a noodle soup both containing cysticerci obtained from a recently slaughtered pig."
- Reviewed:
IntentionallyDense (talk) 22:54, 29 September 2024 (UTC).
- Quote supplied, matches hook, new enough (5x expanded), long enough, well written and looks good. Interesting. The lead image of this article will haunt me forever. Seems good to go. Alt1 is fine but less interesting, and also hard to follow + kind of tangential to this article. PARAKANYAA (talk) 18:12, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment completely unrelated to DYK eligibility, but is "e0008208" a page number? If it's for a figure it should use the loc= parameter. PARAKANYAA (talk) 18:15, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- @PARAKANYAA: Thanks for the review! I agree that Alt1 is kind of odd and tangential so the first hook may be better. e0008208 is in fact a page number and not a figure. Some medical journals have really weird page numbers. IntentionallyDense (talk) 20:18, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- TIL. Thanks! PARAKANYAA (talk) 20:22, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Chocolate Room
- ... that the original exhibition of art installation Chocolate Room was shut down after attracting an "army of ants"?
- Reviewed:
Rollinginhisgrave (talk) 09:27, 29 September 2024 (UTC).
- Interesting read! Date (moved to mainspace yesterday, on 29 Sept), size, references, hook, copyright spot check, nominator has fewer than 5 past noms – all fine, we're good to go. Mariamnei (talk) 10:35, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
1
- ... that 1 is its own square, square root, and factorial?
- Source: *Colman, Samuel (1912). Coan, C. Arthur (ed.). Nature's Harmonic Unity: A Treatise on Its Relation to Proportional Form. New York and London: G.P. Putnam's Sons. pp. 9–10.
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Polyamorph (talk) 12:36, 29 September 2024 (UTC).
- Congratulations on the Good Article status! This article is newly promoted to Good Article, and is sufficiently long and well cited. The Copyvio pulls up a flag to an obscure pdf, which must be an example of the reverse (pdf using text from wikipedia). The hook is excellent, terse and to the point but a tease that draw the readers in; if only to marvel at how you can write an encyclopedia entry on '1'. Hook source checks out. QPQ not required for the nominator. Approved! Chaiten1 (talk) 13:07, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Polyamorph and Chaiten1: What is your opinion of the hook ALT1: ... that many older typewriters do not have a dedicated key for the numeral 1?--Launchballer 14:56, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- I prefer my proposed hook as its a fundamental property of the number itself. Polyamorph (talk) 15:02, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- No worries then.--Launchballer 15:06, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Polyamorph and Launchballer, sorry for disrupting. But apparently, is it possible we add some wiklinks about those three? To me, readers may not understand about mathematical terms. Dedhert.Jr (talk) 23:35, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Factorial maybe, although square and square root are surely common terms.--Launchballer 23:40, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- I did consider wikilinks, the issue is that the wikilink 1 is small, even when bolded. I wanted to make sure that users focus was on the link to 1 and not some other non-GA article. But I would support a wikilink to factorial (which is a GA), and indeed square (algebra) and square root if these would be helpful. Polyamorph (talk) 05:44, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Factorial maybe, although square and square root are surely common terms.--Launchballer 23:40, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Polyamorph and Launchballer, sorry for disrupting. But apparently, is it possible we add some wiklinks about those three? To me, readers may not understand about mathematical terms. Dedhert.Jr (talk) 23:35, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- No worries then.--Launchballer 15:06, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- I prefer my proposed hook as its a fundamental property of the number itself. Polyamorph (talk) 15:02, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Polyamorph and Chaiten1: What is your opinion of the hook ALT1: ... that many older typewriters do not have a dedicated key for the numeral 1?--Launchballer 14:56, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
Articles created/expanded on September 30
editOperation Concrete
- ... that Jean-Luc Godard credited neither his writer nor assistant on his first short film?
- Source: Brody, Richard (2008). Everything Is Cinema: The Working Life of Jean-Luc Godard (1. ed ed.). New York: Metropolitan Books, p. 33. ISBN 978-0-8050-6886-3.
- ALT1: ... that while shooting his first short film, Jean-Luc Godard was barred from his mother's funeral for stealing? Source: Brody, Richard (2008). Everything Is Cinema: The Working Life of Jean-Luc Godard (1. ed ed.). New York: Metropolitan Books, p. 33. ISBN 978-0-8050-6886-3.
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Lbal (talk) 23:49, 30 September 2024 (UTC).
- Starting review. Updates to follow. Ktin (talk) 05:07, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
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Overall: Article meets eligibility criteria. No issues with tone. Referencing seems alright, but, is sourced to offline sources. I will AGF on those offline sources. Assuming AGF on plagiarism checks as well. No QPQ needed.
Both hooks are interesting. However, to validate both of the hooks, please can I get the relevant sections from the offline sources quoted here? Ktin (talk) 05:20, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
User:Ktin Hi, sorry if my reply is not properly formatted, I'm still working on learning some aspects of Wikipedia. I've linked a Google Books copy of the source at the bottom of the page itself in the Works Cited section, but it is also at this link as well: https://books.google.com/books?id=Nf_uKU6bYRYC&pg=PA25&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=2#v=onepage&q&f=false — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lbal (talk • contribs) 19:11, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- No problem on the formatting. Let me take a look at the Google Books preview. Ktin (talk) 01:23, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
- Validated both hooks using p33 of the Google Books Preview. Good to go. Ktin (talk) 01:32, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
The Hillbilly Thomists
- ... that the Hillbilly Thomists (pictured), a band made up of friars from the Dominican Order, reached the number two spot on Billboard's bluegrass chart?
Pbritti (talk) 12:50, 30 September 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: I’m not at all an experienced reviewer (or editor for that matter) but I believe I understand the DYK criteria well rn to try and help out with the backlog, so if anyone else has comments or if I did something wrong by all means please bring them up! I’d like to particularly request a second opinion on the image licensing (since I’m not sure how having people in a self work affects things). PixDeVl yell talk to me! 16:10, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- @PixDeVl: Leads do not require citations (see WP:LEADCITE). Also, you can definitely use images of other people if they're not copyright violations. Let me know if you have any questions! ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:15, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- PS: remember to post
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on the relevant user's talk page when you review a hook and don't pass it. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:19, 1 October 2024 (UTC)- @Pbritti: Fixed the lead part, someone on the Discord also mentioned WP:LEADCITE, so thank you both, I'll keep it in mind next time I do a review, as well as the notice. Thank you! I'd personally pass this, but at the least for this first and maybe few other reviews, I'll leave it as requesting a second opinion. --PixDeVl
yelltalk to me! 16:35, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Pbritti: Fixed the lead part, someone on the Discord also mentioned WP:LEADCITE, so thank you both, I'll keep it in mind next time I do a review, as well as the notice. Thank you! I'd personally pass this, but at the least for this first and maybe few other reviews, I'll leave it as requesting a second opinion. --PixDeVl
- PS: remember to post
- Providing a second opinion here on PixDeVl's request off-wiki. The initial review was mostly good and it looks like the LEADCITE thing was clarified above; no problems there. The image is correctly licensed, which isn't affected by having people as its subject in this context, at least in the United States. The only other concern I had was on the use of Aleteia as a source, as it was criticized at an RSN discussion. However, their about page indicates they have some editorial oversight and the article only uses them for uncontroversial information, so I don't think this is a sticking issue. Approved! —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 16:42, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- @TechnoSquirrel69: Thanks for the review and helping the new editor! ~ Pbritti (talk) 21:23, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
Organic Cocoa Production and Export Cooperative
- ... that the largest chocolate factory in São Tomé and Príncipe cost over 464,000 euros to build?
- Source: Sebastião, Sita (21 July 2022). "São Tomé inaugura terceira fábrica de chocolate e vai apostar na exportação" [São Tomé opens third chocolate factory and will focus on exports]. Forbes África Lusófona (in European Portuguese). Retrieved 30 September 2024. English source: "São Tomé: New organic chocolate factory to put profits into local community". Macau Business. 21 July 2022. Retrieved 30 September 2024.
- ALT1: ... that the Organic Cocoa Production and Export Cooperative built a chocolate factory on São Tomé Island that cost over 464,000 euros? Source: Same as ALT0.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Yuan Shikai coinage
- Comment: ALT1 is more direct with the article title.
Yue🌙 08:36, 30 September 2024 (UTC).
- Everything looks good in terms of meeting the criteria for DYK but the hooks are lackluster (€464,000 isn't that fascinating a sum for a major chocolate factory). I recommend you look to a different aspect of the topic for the hook. ~ Pbritti (talk) 03:41, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Pbritti: How about:
- ALT2: ... that thieves stole 40 percent of the cocoa produced by the Organic Cocoa Production and Export Cooperative in 2018?
- Source: Carlos, Maximino (23 May 2018). "São Tomé e Príncipe : Economia do cacau prejudicada" [São Tomé and Príncipe: Cocoa Economy Damaged]. Radio France Internationale (in Portuguese). Retrieved 30 September 2024.
- ALT3: ... that the São Toméan Organic Cocoa Production and Export Cooperative claims to represent 3,000 farmers from 42 smallholders' associations?
- Source: "Actividades e Realizações" [Activities and Achievements]. CECAB-STP. Organic Cocoa Production and Export Cooperative. Retrieved 30 September 2024.
- Yue🌙 04:51, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- New hooks are solid. Good to go! ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:08, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Pbritti: How about:
Articles created/expanded on October 1
edit1997 Saint-Casimir mass suicide
- ... that on the same day that the members of Heaven's Gate died in a mass suicide, five members of an unrelated cult did the same thing?
- Source: Coleman, Loren L. (2004). "Cultic Copycats". The Copycat Effect: How the Media and Popular Culture Trigger the Mayhem in Tomorrow's Headlines. Simon & Schuster. ISBN 978-1-4165-0554-9, p. 84. "On March 22, 1997, just as the Heaven’s Gate thirty-nine were dying by suicide, a documentary film about the Order of the Solar Temple cult aired on French television, and, in what was probably not a coincidence, five members of the Order of the Solar Temple killed themselves that day in a “Christic Fire.”
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PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:05, 2 October 2024 (UTC).
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Overall: IntentionallyDense (talk) 01:45, 2 October 2024 (UTC)