User talk:RHaworth/2019 Sep 17

Emotional Speech Blocks Deletion Syndrome

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User page deleted?

Hello, just found out that my first article and page were tagged for misuse of Wikipedia. I'm trying to get help on the article I wrote, but may you please let me know how I can reinstate my user page? — SPMCC88 (talk) 22:16, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

• The content of your user page was hidden by a mysterious, undocumented process which means that even admins cannot see the deleted content. We are not even allowed to know who did the hiding. I suggest make a complaint at the bureaucrats' noticeboard. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:04, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, ill reach out to them to try and get this fixed. -- SPMCC88 (talk) 15:23, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

• SPMCC88, "reach out to" is an horrible phrase. Please explain what is wrong with simply saying "ask". All your edits have been suppressed because you listed the names and dates of birth of Joshua Ramsey’s children - all minors. Are you one of those children? If you attempt to re-instate the article, safest thing is just to say "he has a wife and three children". — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:40, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Keemstar, et al

Can you please explain why you've applied extended confirmation protection to this page as well as the associated redirects? You've left no rationale. — Buffs (talk) 22:39, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

• Your question should have been "why did you allow the creation of the article in the face of this AfD decision?". At talk:Keemstar, which at the time was in draftspace, it was suggested "naturally it would have to have semi-protection or extended-confirmed protection" and given the troubled histories of all three titles: Keemstar, DramaAlert and Daniel Keem, I fully agreed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:05, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

No, I meant what I said. This issue is not why you did it, per se, but why you didn't explain it in your rationale (literally leaving it blank). — Buffs (talk) 15:19, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

• Very sorry, I usually do provide a word or two of explanation when I protect a page. I have no idea why I omitted to do so in these three cases. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:04, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Could you please add a rationale so it is easier to understand why you've done so? Buffs (talk) 23:41, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

• Done. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:40, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Sabina Knight

Hello! I am writing to ask for your help. I see that you deleted the page I submitted on Sabina Knight because of copyright infringement, but I thought I cited the sources properly. Would you be able to explain to me how to fix the submission so that it will be approved? I am a first-time Wikipedia contributor and thought I had followed the instructions, but clearly I am making major mistakes. I've read through the instructions several times and still don't see what I'm doing wrong. Thanks very much, Sarah Gilleman — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C64:7B7F:E8B4:DDE4:C23C:979B:443B (talk) 00:01, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

• Count yourself lucky that I am talking to an IP address. Do you actually understand the difference between citing, ie. providing a link and wholesale copying? Try re-writing entirely in your own words. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:05, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

  Wow... don't bite the noobs. Perhaps a refresher? "Administrators are expected to respond promptly and civilly to queries about their Wikipedia-related conduct and administrative actions and to justify them when needed." Cmon. You're an admin. Buffs (talk) 15:22, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Hear hear, well said Buffs. Captainllama (talk) 23:35, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

• @Buffs and Captainllama: please help me learn civility - please provide a revised wording of my message to Sarah which provides the same content but more politely stated. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:04, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

• How about the same thing without the condescending remarks about citations or where you apparently consider IP requests beneath your dignity to respond to?

Count yourself lucky that I am talking to an IP address. Do you actually understand the difference between citing, ie. providing a link and wholesale copying? If not, let me know and we can talk about it. Try Any such issues could be resolved by re-writing this entirely in your own words. See WP:SUMMARY, WP:CITE, WP:COI, and WP:NPS for further guidance.

This would be immensely better. You are unnecessarily coming across WAY more hostile than is necessary. I'm not suggesting that this IP's actions are correct (near as I can tell, they are 100% wrong). But as an admin, you should be much nicer about letting them know about their edits and how they can improve them. Your job as an admin isn't just technical deletions or protections, but explaining them in a manner that is appropriate for a new user. While the IP is reading those linked articles, perhaps you could browse WP:AGF, WP:ADMINACCT, and especially WP:BITE:

"If you feel that you must say something to a newcomer about a mistake, please do so in a constructive and respectful manner. Begin by introducing yourself with a greeting on the user's talk page to let them know that they are welcomed here, and present your corrections calmly and as a peer. If possible, point out something they've done correctly or especially well."

Buffs (talk) 16:52, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

• "100% wrong" - the IP address has done just one edit - what is wrong with it?

Sarah, do you feel bitten? What do you intend to do now? Would your action have been different if I had worded my message differently? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:05, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

How would I know? I can't see what you wrote. I'm WP:AGF that what you did was correct. I'm saying that the manner in which you did so was wrong. Buffs (talk) 04:38, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

• After reading what you sent me, there's definitely copyvio involved (though not exclusively). Likewise, even though there were several whole sections of copyrighted text included (Example: the second two sentences were word-for-word from Amazon's listing), it's not like that couldn't have been easily rephrased and cited. Deleting a whole page because of copyvio concerns that could have been addressed seems unnecessarily harsh (especially from a draft). If I wrote 5 paragraphs of a draft and it was deleted beyond my recovery because a few sentences weren't cited, I'd be irritated. Buffs (talk) 17:08, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Help with deleted article

Hi, you recently deleted an article for me, which I believe was because of a username conflict. I was able to change my username. I also saw a note that read "(G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion)". Can I ask if the G11 was based solely on my username conflict or if the article itself should be revised? Here is the original link to where you deleted it: User:DarrynMelerine/sandbox. Thank you, Thecr8tve (talk) 17:34, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

• Your user name made very little difference to the deletion decision. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:05, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi, could you restore my article so I could try to make edits and resubmit it for approval? Thank you. Thecr8tve (talk) 19:07, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

• Text emailed. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:56, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Artesia

Would you be so kind as to explain why you applied ECP here? Given that there was no prior protection on the page, the spam is coming from a single user, and the page has less than 50 edits in the past 14 years, "Spam" seems to be a woefully inadequate explanation and doesn't meet Wikipedia:Protection_policy#Extended_confirmed_protection the criteria for the application of ECP. — Buffs (talk) 19:40, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

• What action, if any, should I have taken and what explanation should I have given? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:05, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

I feel you're intentionally being obtuse. But, just so we're clear, there are a litany of things that should be done prior to ECP, a measure of last resort...

1. Other forms of page protection
2. A block of the sole problem user

There is ONE user performing such actions and there's no need for ECP as such actions don't meet the criteria for action on ECP. It's literally a total of 4 edits. You could have simply undone them and blocked the problem user rather than blocking editing rights for all noobies. Please stop applying ECP in this manner. Buffs (talk) 04:46, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

• Last "resort indeed"! As has recently been demonstrated here for a not yet extended-confirmed user to get a change done to an ECP protected page is a completely painless process. But blocking the problem user must surely be considered newbie-biting? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:40, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

WP:AN notice

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Buffs (talk • contribs)

You deleted my sandbox!

Can you restore my sandbox? The original deleter restored it just for you to delete minutes later. — Ugla'a (talk) 01:03, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

• I gave you my reply here two days ago. I repeat: follow this link and follow the instructions there and I will email you the text. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:05, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
• Another requirement: Jimfbleak and I would both like to know whether it is fact or pure fantasy. You may tell the truth - you will get the text whether it is true or not. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:04, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

You have yet to give me the text for my sandbox. I opened my email, so whenever you're ready! Ugla'a (talk) 18:52, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

• So answer my question: is it fact or pure fantasy? And in addition tell me whether you did it totally on your own initiative or is there some bulletin board somewhere where people talk about the idea and publish links to their particular fantasy? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:40, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

It is kind of both. It is a fan season of the TV show Big Brother. — Ugla'a (talk) 20:41, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

• Your reply is distinctly inadequate but I won't persist. Text emailed. We do not want to see it anywhere near Wikipedia. Fandom is specifically for fan stuff and uses the MediaWiki engine. Go there you will probably find you can play to your heart's content with nobody complaining. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:56, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Sorry that you weren't satisfied. It is a twitter game of big brother, and the voting chart is meant to keep track of how everyone voted. Also, sorry to bother you but could you email it to my new email? I don't have access to that one anymore. — Ugla'a (talk) 14:22, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

• "Don't have access to it any more" - but you only set it up in your preferences a few days ago! I have sent the text again to an address you used for an email to me. I have no idea whether that is the same or different from the one I used to send you the text using your "email this user" link here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:34, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Zeeyarah

Hello, Hope you are doing fine. i wanted to know the reason for deleting my article. you put the objection which is G4 which i this not applicable on my article. you said that i am writing the same material which i have wrote before but this time i didn't write the same. and i am writing about the company then how can i change the facts. i am not writing anything wrong. everything in my article is genuine and correct. there is a website of company in my article you can visit it and check the status of company or you cab also find it on Google. so please review my article one again and approve it and publish it. i will be very thank full to you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zee2019 (talk • contribs)

• G4 has nothing to do with it! But I think that WP:G4 applies fully. Wikipedia is not a trade directory. We need more than simply evidence that the company exists. You can take the matter to DRV if you wish. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 12:05, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

User talk:腫瘤電場治療/sandbox

Hii, can you delete this G13 page, it's not being displayed in Category:Candidates for speedy deletion as abandoned drafts or AfC submissions because of namespace error. Thank you! -- CptViraj (📧) 12:19, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

• Actioned. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:04, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Page about Leon Zimmermann

• Sorry, when I see a spammy bio from an editor with no previous contributions I tend to assume it is an autobio. So, revised message: I suggest you follow this advice and find an established editor to help you. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:04, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! One last question: Why do you find my article "spammy"? — Biographitor (talk) 12:23, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

• Why do you find our article "spammy"? — Wikinomicus (talk) 15:27, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

• Because it lacked evidence of notability. It looked like an attempt to publicise this person. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:04, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Sarmal

Hi and thanks for deleting Sarmal (clan)! However, I was wondering if you could remove the protection. The thing is, the article has been recreated several times, each time at a different title; this has made these recreations difficult to detect. If anything, I would want any possible future recreations to be at a title that I'm watching, and not at yet another one where it will take me months to notice. Also, I don't rule out a good-faith recreation by another editor: it's not an open-and-shut case so it's possible someone might one day actually find enough sources to pass notability. – Uanfala (talk) 20:51, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

• Done. Similarly, when I block yet another new account of some persistent troublemaker, I wonder: perhaps I should not block but watch and keep reverting their stuff until they get bored. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:40, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Deshi people

The page Talk:Deshi people was not supposed to be deleted. Any discussion on the talk page didn't even take place and you deleted in haste. That is uncalled for. The page is about an ethnic community and it demands to be in the Wiki. Several authentic sources are there and were provided and more was in the pipeline.InspireTheWorld1 (talk) 18:26, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Forget the talk page for a moment; consider the article. Here's the deletion rationale: Unambiguous copyright infringement of https://scroll.in/article/864299/we-dont-want-to-be-identified-in-the-name-of-our-religion-say-assams-indigenous-desi-muslims, https://nenow.in/north-east-news/bihu-myriad-colours.html, https://www.thecitizen.in/index.php/en/NewsDetail/index/3/9889/Deshi-Janagosthi-Where-Culture-Merges-With-Religion). How is this mistaken, InspireTheWorld1? -- Hoary (talk) 05:18, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

• We seem to think that Deshi is synonymous with Desi, a term describing everybody in the Indian sub-continent. If you can show that Deshi has a much narrower meaning, you would need to explain that in any attempt to re-post. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:40, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Regarding the deleted page Pootis

Greetings! I have come to you through the currently nonexistent page Pootis that you protected nearly 6 years ago. due to the "patent nonsense" that kept happening with that particular article being made multiple times. The reason why I am speaking to you is that I was going to make it a redirect to the Team Fortress 2 article, until I realized it was protected from creation, hence why I was wondering if you and the fellow admins can consider that "Pootis" be redirected to the Team Fortress 2 article. Many thanks! MindsEyeTHPS (talk) 01:27, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

• Hmm it's just a meme, and I can't find any decent secondary coverage on it. — Drmies (talk) 01:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

• So explain why. I do not see the word in the Team Fortress 2 article. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:40, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Mary Louise Lobsinger

You deleted my article: draft:Mary Louise Lobsinger. This article was rejected by a person with no background in architecture. Mary Louise Lobsinger is a widely published scholar. Your deletion of this article is a case of misinformation from your part, and a case of discrimination against women. Many male scholars who are less published and less accomplished have Wikipedia pages. Please do more research before making quick assumptions and deleting my work. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sebastianlopez329 (talk • contribs) 04:36, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

• Your complaints are utterly ridiculous: person with no background in architecture - irrelevant; discrimination against women - totally unfounded. If you actually look at the deletion log you will see that it was deleted for a purely technical reason. Restored. Do not let it languish unedited for another six months. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:20, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Constant Revert and deletion problem

Hello RHaworth, As I saw you in the history of Verdis, I was wondering if you could sort out the deletion situation. It's a perfectly valid redirect but someone called dab wolf has been removing the information of Verdis repeatedly in the article it redirects to. Is it possible you could sort this out? Thanks, StopCorruption — Preceding unsigned comment added by StopCorruption1 (talk • contribs)

• What do you mean by "the deletion situation"? Why have you not commented at the RfD discussion? Why have you not added a well-referenced section about Verdis to the Croatia-Serbia border dispute article? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:40, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

I tried to put Verdis and enclava back in there but Dab Wolf keeps reverting it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by StopCorruption1 (talk • contribs)

• This is either a sockpuppet or a meatpuppet account, intent on restoring information about non-notable micronations. Needs to be blocked. SportingFlyer T·C 23:24, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

• Please give up and accept that the community view is that Verdis is not notable. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:56, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Chidi Ajaere

Hi, I was advised to talk to you before recreating my page. my few questions are can I still use my previous references? Do I have to change the entire contents/section. i want to know what part is advertising that took down the page. Thanks, femdav 09/09/2019 -- Femdav (talk) 10:57, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

• Of course you can use the same references but possibly add better. The whole thing was spammy: "the gigantic and exhilarating world of big businesses" is not encyclopedick language. But try again via AfC if you must. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:40, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Dragon Capital (Kyiv Ukraine)

Hello! You deleted the draft page Draft:Dragon Capital (Kyiv, Ukraine) saying it was an unambiguous advertising or promotion. — 15:43, 28 August 2019 RHaworth (talk|contribs) deleted page Draft:Dragon Capital (Kyiv, Ukraine) (G11: Unambiguous advertising or promotion)

Dragon Capital is a well-known investment bank in Ukraine and has international banks and investment banks among their clients. That's why I considered creating this page. In the process of writing I tried to find as different information as possible and provided links to the information I found. And I'm sure it's not advertising or promotional, these are facts. Also there is a Wiki page of one more Dragon Capital, a Vietnam-focused financial institution Dragon Capital. That's the second reason why I decided I have to create the page about Ukrainian company and note it's based in Kyiv, Ukraine, because the only Vietnamese page may be confusing and may misinform Wiki readers. When I looked through the text of Vietnamese Dragon Capital I didn't find much why their article is not considered as unambiguous advertising or promotion: just a couple of sentences and very few reference links while I spent a couple of hours finding different references to written facts. I would very much appreciate if you explain what I can improve (actually I followed all the recommendations already while creating it) and let me change it and be approved. Many thanks Shita okukrnet (talk) 12:55, 9 September 2019 (UTC)Shita okukrnet — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shita okukrnet (talk • contribs) 12:29, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

• If, and only if, you have no CoI, request restoration at DRV. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:20, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for understanding! I have no CoI. Will request restoration. Have a nice day! Shita okukrnet (talk) 09:54, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Restore Page

Good day RHaworth, you deleted the page Yung Miraboi Mark for promotional content. The page was tagged for census to decide either it should be deleted or not which it's still ongoing. I don't think the content is promotional & and if it's it the census have the right to say so on the debate. An IP has been removing the page according to Wikipedia that could be a violent act also called distrupting edits. The IP has to be blocked and page to be restored while AFD Open.-- Hyttgf975 (talk) 14:47, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

• Restored. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 17:40, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Ghostbusters

I challenged the speedy deletion of Ghostbusters. What's the point on giving it as an option if it is ignored? — Darkwarriorblake / SEXY ACTION TALK PAGE! 20:41, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

• I have to side with Darkwarriorblake here. This version of a video game, while released at nearly the same time, was developed and produced by a separate entity and shares no commonality with the game you've redirected it to. This should not have been a CSD. Buffs (talk) 15:49, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

• Ghostbusters has never been deleted. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:56, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Joe Kelliher

Hi there RHaworth, Firstly, my apologies for being a newbie and probably getting things wrong. Indeed, I'm not even sure if this is the right place to send a message to you - I very much hope it is. I recently published an article of which I think the internal link is Draft:Joe Kelliher but I may have got that wrong. I have redrafted the article to remove (I believe) any possible advertising, but am unsure how to progress now. I'd be very grateful for your counsel if that is okay please? Many thanks, Drewwotherspoon1076 (talk) 10:04, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

• By all means post the re-drafted article but I fear it will be rejected again on the grounds of notability. It is stuff for Linkedin, not here. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:15, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your response and guidance RHaworth - Drewwotherspoon1076 (talk) 15:21, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Mistaken removal of images

Hi, you just mistakenly removed several images from articles where an empty image description page was deleted on Wikipedia, but the image itself still exists on Commons. Could you please reverse these removals? Thanks! Antony–22 (^talk⁄_contribs) 14:53, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

I second that concern. I undid the removals at Supercapacitor and DNA one-off manually before I saw how extensive the pattern is here. — DMacks (talk) 18:33, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, came here to say the same thing (example). It's more than a few, there is a long run of edits around 14:48 all with the same error. They need mass reverting. — SpinningSpark 21:22, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

It looks like there are 48 edits that need to be undone. I just want to emphasize that this is clearly an oversight made in good faith, since it's a bit unusual for images on Commons to also have English Wikipedia description pages, and less so for them to need to be deleted. — Antony–22 (^talk⁄_contribs) 21:40, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

• Humble apologies to all of you. Even as I was doing it I was thinking "this is the first time I have used Twinkle for this job - is there something different that I have to do?" And there was! Untick "remove usages of each file". But I failed to do it. All fixed now I hope. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:15, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Looks good—thanks! Antony–22 (^talk⁄_contribs) 17:04, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the prompt cleanup! No harm, no foul. — DMacks (talk) 11:22, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Maureen Callahan (food writer)

Hi, RHaworth! Just to let you know that I've restored Draft:Maureen Callahan (food writer), which you deleted several minutes after I'd removed the G13 tag – the page had been edited by a real human after the tag was placed, so is/was not eligible. I think User:Evad37's excellent script may need to be changed to cope with such cases. Regards, Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 17:52, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

• Noted - blame it on edit conflict. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:15, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

my pictures

Copies of emails or summick

Dear RusLan Biryukov,

To query this with the editor who nominated the image for deletion, you'll have to post on their user talk page, which is at <https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wiki.x.io%2Fwiki%2FUser_talk%3AGSS&data=02%7C01%7C%7C68e5bfc8d21646d155e408d73623e5cc%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637037400113129114&sdata=QKiGdwX7iOM13ZdTHdjI0ZieDZxC36Z462VJXeIZWVY%3D&reserved=0>. This e-mail address isn't a contact address for individual editors. Typically, the copyright of a photo belongs to the photographer, so that might be at the root of the confusion, but you'll need to discuss this with GSS or the deleting administrator (who you can contact at <https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wiki.x.io%2Fwiki%2FUser_talk%3ARHaworth&data=02%7C01%7C%7C68e5bfc8d21646d155e408d73623e5cc%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637037400113129114&sdata=PhCkLxjSVU0Q0KfGcikQL2OcKnDUdqsMvsrul9VZBL0%3D&reserved=0>).

Yours sincerely, Lawrence Devereaux

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10/09/2019 18:23 - RusLan Biryukov wrote:

Hey guys, Is this a joke? I placed my picture, with my image, made by my personal photographer, during my performance, picture that I own and have been owning since it was made, it’s been circulating online for many years now without any complains or objections; and it’s been questioned whether I own it and have a right to use in whatever way I please?... I hate to say it, but it’s been an EXCEEDINGLY FRUSTRATING EXPERIENCE - trying to deliver truthful information about me to Wikipedia. You guys appear and act like a bunch of incompetent individuals! No wonder Wikipedia has certain reputation! Can please someone advise this guy and others that we are honestly trying to do a right thing here? Otherwise we will have no choice but to forget about delivering truthful information to Wikipedia and simply continue using other sources, as well as advise everyone in our reach not to deal, trust or use Wikipedia, at least in regard to any possible information about me. Thank you, RusLan Biryukov

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— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bestcello (talk • contribs) 01:22, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

• Please forget about delivering truthful information to Wikipedia and simply continue using other platforms. We require a lot more than truth: we require notability. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:15, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Dog Ball Catching

Hello there RHaworth. While I understand your decision to delete my draft page as a hoax I want to assure you that it is not...and I would take no pleasure in either defacing Wikipedia or accomplishing a feat that thousands of morons have been able to do in the past - get a hoax published. My page was just my initial draft, I was planning on including pictures and links to videos as well as an explanation as to how the name was derived. It is sort of depressing that you flagged it as a hoax but if you could restore the draft pending my updates, I assure you that you will find that, although a bit obscure, this IS actually a game invented in 2018. (Yes, some of the rues are kind of stupid at the moment but have you ever seen the first rules of baseball?) If after my edits you still think it a hoax then so be it but in that case I would encourage you to come to our lake and see it in action, or at least watch the videos to which it is linked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jlopez3857 (talk • contribs) 14:38, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

• This guideline was written specifically with people like you in mind. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 15:15, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Wow. Fair enough! I concede and thank you for helping administer the site. - I'll be more diligent in the future. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jlopez3857 (talk • contribs) 01:03, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Blackstone Brewing Co

Hello, you deleted the Blackstone Brewing Company wiki page. This was not advertising at all and discusses Nashville TN's oldest craft brewery, how it got started, the equipment it uses. The brewpub closed in 2016, so it is clearly not advertising that. The co-founder also died a few years ago. This is an informational page. Please reinstate. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smertie (talk • contribs) 15:51, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

• Ironically, the fact that I am a card-carrying CAMRA member made me more inclined to delete the page. In Britain we have hundreds of micro breweries almost all likely to be deemed non-notable. So yours got deleted as "just another micro-brewery". But I have restored it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:28, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Deleted Page

Hello, This is Jim Williams known on Wikipedia as Jimwilliams975 I am just querying why you deleted a wikipedia page I created under the article name Devyn Sharpe. Please could you provide an explanation and maybe we can get this resolved and re-published. I am contactable on wikipedia or by email <redacted>. Have a nice evening, Jim Williams — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jimwilliams975 (talk • contribs)

• Please read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:28, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

jo m. sekimonyo page

Hello, while I am trying to post a Zamenga Batukezanga english page, I found out the Jo M. Sekimonyo page was deleted. How should I process? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Niarekula (talk • contribs) 23:00, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

• In a whimsical mood, I have restored Jo M. Sekimonyo. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:28, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

WHY YOUDELET MY STUFFF

赤道論. YOU DON EVEN UNDERTAND CHINESE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.216.33.117 (talk) 07:02, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

• You have already encountered the Chinese Wikipedia. If you wish to contribute in Chinese, please go there. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:28, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Just a note

That despite this not being closed as a soft delete and your explicit instructions to take it to DRV, the user has recreated it here under another name, whilst edit warring to remove CSD tags. — Praxidicae (talk) 14:13, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

• Dealt with. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:34, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Deleted 'U Up? Podcast' page?

Hi -- I've been working to put together a page on a podcast I've been listening to for months and another wiki user kindly moved my attempt to draft mode. I'm pulling together more notable sources and have plenty of news articles to use as references on the page but looks like it just got deleted. What are my next steps if I want to continue working on the page? I'm happy to research proper formatting and page creation in more detail if someone was done improperly. Thank you. KnowledgeGoddessDC (talk) 19:57, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

KnowledgeGoddessDC, (excuse me for butting in) don't worry - the draft is still there, you can work on it no problem - it's just the title in article space that has been deleted. Follow the link to your draft from the message on your talk page to access it, let me know if you have any problems. Cheers GirthSummit _(blether) 22:08, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Ahhh, thank you! That makes sense. I'll continue editing as the stronger more authoritative sources come in. I think I dug up a few others already. I'll check back in with the experts when I feel there's something more worthy of being published. Thanks all! KnowledgeGoddessDC (talk) 14:42, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Roger Norris-Green

Why did you delete my article about Australian Western writer Roger Norris-Green? I do not understand. It was usual and neutral article about well-known author. When I'm reading this User talk page, you seem to be an arrogant and mean person. In an arbitrary way, you are deleting articles which other people have written. Just check out the page of The University of Queensland to see that Roger Norris-Green is very productive author, and written 138 novels since 1960s. https://www.austlit.edu.au/austlit/page/A51010?mainTabTemplate=agentWorksBy — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gari Jugarin (talk • contribs) 20:19, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

• My deletions are far from arbitrary. The vast majority of them have been triggered because someone else thinks deletion should be done. But I have restored your bio. Note that it stands very little chance of survival without reliable sources to demonstrate the guy's notability.

Masumrezarock100, the conclusion is almost certainly going to be "run of the Mills & Boon-type author. But please let a regular reviewer decide that. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:34, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Oops. It looked like ambiguous promotion to me. Sorry, if I was wrong. Masum Reza^📞 11:41, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

• It was not "wrong". I restored because Gari Jugarin moaned, not because your speedy tag was wrong. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:49, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Hello, sir. I improved my article, can you check it out - thank you. I hope it's way better now. There are better references and style is more encyclopaedic. Kindly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gari Jugarin (talk • contribs) 20:28, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

• You need to learn wikilinks and to sign with ~~~~. I find the Finnish connection fascinating. How come he has attracted attention there and had many of his books translated into Suomi? As to your draft: where are the glowing, independent reviews of him and his works? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:39, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Cyprus rTMS

Hi. Draft:Cyprus rTMS which you'd speedy deleted as promo is back. I can't check if it is substantially the same - if it is, the editor hasn't learned anything from its previous deletion... — Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 22:10, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

• New version was different but, if anything, even more spammy. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:34, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

Imogen Waterhouse

Did you overlook that the speedy deletion was contested? Or explain to me what warranted the deletion? This is actress that had press coverage and main role in tv series, which in my experience is enough to establish notability or if the notability is seriously questioned by somebody that seems at very least tobe a case for for an AfD rather than a speedy deletion.--Kmhkmh (talk) 21:59, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

It should not have been WP:A7'ed. Instead the redirect should have been restored. In the meantime, Kmhkmh, you should work on a draft in Draftspace – the subject likely passes neither WP:NACTOR nor WP:BASIC, and so a draft should be worked on until it is shown the subject passes the notability requirements. -- IJBall (contribs • talk) 05:06, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

@IJBall: Well it is always a bit in the eye in the eye of the beholder, but as far as I can see both WP:NACTOR and WP:BASIC are passed. As an actress she appeared in variety of well known TV series, in 3 movies (twice supporting, once lead) and has a main role in current fantasy series already running for two seasons. There is press coverage about her from different sources even in non-English ones.

In addition the redirect already existed in the AN, I see no reason to work in a draft space. Frankly I don't see any reason why I should use the draft space at all. I'm a contributor (and reviewer) for over 12 years now and if I prepare an article I'll rather do that in my user space. -- Kmhkmh (talk) 05:22, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

P.S. What should happen here imho is not the recreation of the redirect but rather the recreation of article and then you or anybody who might still doubt the notability can file a regular AfD, so that other editors/reviewers/admins may assess the case. By the way de.wp apparently has an article on her for over a year already (see de:Imogen Waterhouse) — Kmhkmh (talk) 05:28, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

• Restored to Draft:Imogen Waterhouse. Note that the redirect from Imogen Waterhouse to Suki Waterhouse was never appropriate because she is only briefly mentioned in the article about Suki. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:39, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I took draft version and republished though after seeing that the draft route takes forever and doesn't allow to link the other language wikipedias. As stated above that the notability is given seems pretty clear from my perspective and if somebody really sees that differently despite her various tv and movie roles as well as her somewhat prominent modeling career (she had a vogue cover) and the press coverage, then he/she is free to file an AfD. -- Kmhkmh (talk) 12:50, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

P.S. Since the article ANS now, it might be a good idea to delete the draft version and remove it from the review queue, which currently has already over 4000 drafts pending. -- Kmhkmh (talk) 12:59, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

• Kmhkmh, I deplore the use of wikijargon without a link to a definition. Please explain the terms AN and ANS. Please also explain what prevented you moving draft:Imogen Waterhouse to Imogen Waterhouse. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:16, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Contested deletion

Hello. The Wikipedia page I wrote was deleted for promotional reasons. I added Matthew Driggs to Wikipedia due to his lawsuit against the Utah State Bar over their rules regarding legal advertising. I feel this meets the noteworthy clause of Wikipedia's guidelines. Can you tell me what I did wrong? Sorry for messing up. It's my first article on here. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adjohnbrock (talk • contribs) 23:32, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

• You could try again via AfC. There is no need for (lawyer) in the title. What is noteworthy about a lawsuit that was eventually dismissed by the federal court? What reliable sources have commented on its significance? — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:39, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Deletion of Truffle Framework page

I would like to appeal the nomination and eventual speedy deletion of the "Truffle Framework" page. Truffle is an important tool in developing Ethereum Blockchain's smart contracts. I can add further citation from verifiable and credible sources. The reason given by User:GPL93 for deletion was, "the article appears to be about a company, corporation or organization that does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia." That could be said of any product or development tool. There was no mention of the company that had produced the product in the text and the product itself is an "Open Source" product. Which means that the product is available to anyone for FREE.

Please reconsider the deletion of the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khanadilaltaf (talk • contribs) 07:53, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

• You could try again via AfC. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 11:39, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Penn State Dance Marathon

Hello, Could you please restore Penn State IFC/Panhellenic Dance Marathon (THON) or possibly Penn State IFC/Panhellenic Dance Marathon to draftspace? Thanks, Benjamin (talk) 13:17, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

• Benjaminikuta and Hoyadonis, I have restored it. I see no reason why Penn State Dance Marathon is not a necessary and sufficient title and certainly I can see absolutely no justification for a ridiculous / in the title. Make sure you explain what the (pan)hell the panhellenic bit of the title is all about because it is all Greek to me. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 22:16, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

  Thanks! But what about the other one? I think there might have been multiple deleted articles. — Benjamin (talk) 23:10, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

  • The edit history of the draft now contains all the edits from Penn State IFC/Panhellenic Dance Marathon (THON), Penn State IFC/Panhellenic Dance Marathon and Atlas Benefiting THON. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:03, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

    Interesting, how does that work, are they all merged together in the history somehow? Benjamin (talk) 12:43, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

    There are two problems with this history merge. 1) The articles had two different subjects. 2) Pages with parallel histories (even with the same subject) should never have the histories merged. I just spent about an hour going through the history to unmerge them. — JJMC89 (T·C) 01:04, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

My draft was deleted

RHaworth, hlw, my Draft:Mashrafe (2017 song) was deleted and deletion log I saw created by banned user and same text. For your info I created this draft first time and I don't know who created before. And I created first time so please look at the others draft you are talking about which is deleted the difference.I kindly request you to restore my draft. Its unfair to false allegation and without reviewing my draft was deleted. If I was created before this I never message you. So please restore my draft. After reviewing if my draft will decline then, I will request to delete my draft myself. I spent 3 days days on this draft and it was deleted before reviewing I am not feeling good. — 🙏 154.57.3.17 (talk) 06:39, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

• If you can get আফতাবুজ্জামান to believe that you don't know who created before, you may re-create it. Or you can go to DRV. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:03, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

@154.57.3.17, you already blocked twice for Sockpuppeting. It appears that you are trying to bypassing your block by creating article from IP. My suspicion become stronger when i saw someone new upload this photo at same time you are working on your draft & you used that photo in your article. You are saying you don't know anyone then i guess this just a random coincidence, another coincident is your article has almost same text & same references! Ok, lets say you are not Sockpuppeting, then next question comes is about notability. After a very long discussion this article was deleted for notability. I don't see how this article because notable in this one month; nothing changed, the song did not received anything special to become notable. --আফতাবুজ্জামান (talk) 14:57, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Deleted page.

Hi I was working on my page earlier today to find it has been deleted. May I ask why it was deleted? User:Aydendaniel.ac/sandbox That is the link that shows that you deleted it. Thank you! Aydendaniel.ac (talk) 08:32, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

• That is also the link shows why it was deleted! - read this. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 10:03, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Abduljabbar Surajo Guga - Deletion

User talk:Tvincent88#Speedy deletion nomination of Abduljabbar Surajo Guga. This is regarding the article for Abduljabbar Surajo Guga, I want know know what type of copyright privacy information do you need from Katsina Post? Abduljabbar Surajo Media Team provided the local news paper the article I wrote. If you check the information is a exactly the headings and structure we have on here. Here is the link for the news paper website showing the date of publication, if you go through my sandbox and review my edit history you'll know I am telling the truth. Help me to the right direction on how to fix this, apparently my intent was never to plagiarism. "http://katsinapost.com.ng/2019/09/12/meet-abduljabbar-guga-from-katsina-it-director-of-an-american-company/" (Katsina Post). They knew I am wring the Wikipedia article so that reached our to gather more information and then I sent them everything I wrote on here. Let me know how to fix this. Thanks Sincerely, Tomas Vincent — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tvincent88 (talk • contribs) 14:16, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

• (talk page stalker) @Tvincent88: Instructions on how to donate text to Wikipedia are located at: WP:DONATETEXT. However, even if you followed those instructions it is is unlikely we would use the material. It isn't often that we find content not on Wikipedia that is written in an encyclopedic way, which includes an adherence to WP:NEUTRAL. The article you copied from is not written in this neutral style, and we would not accept this content as is. We might (might) use it as a reference, but that's the most we would use it for. Regardless of the source of the content for the article, you should carefully read and understand WP:NPERSON before beginning to write this again. Further, please constrain your efforts in draft form until others have had a chance to look at it. Else, it's likely it would be rapidly deleted again as it was here. This is really for your benefit, as it will give you time to develop a nascent article into something we would move into article space rather than delete. If you have questions, let me know. Thanks, -- Hammersoft (talk) 22:20, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

InLobby

Dear Mr. Haworth, I am writing to ask you change the protection level of an article. In 2011, you deleted an article called "InLOBBY" because of the advertising and promotion. You also made it fully protected. Not long ago I got an assignment from my Writing Skills professor to write about a travel company, and I chose InLOBBY, as it is a very popular company in my country. However, when I looked for some information about it in Wikipedia, I found nothing. As I have gathered a great deal of information on this topic, I would like to write an article about it here. So I need you to change the protection level to be able to make it come into reality. Thank you in advance. Elenmelkonyan123 (talk) 2:15 PM, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Millionaire

About page List of Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? top prize winners. Hello there. I don't get it why you deleted it that page. Is there any reasons of that? -- Marik-modder (talk) 19:53, 16 September 2019 (UTC)

Should I re-write My Family Keeper?

Should I? yimingllewyn 09:34, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

Fadi Haddad

Hello are you check article before deletion?, are you check sources, or you immediately delete. -- FPP (talk) 10:08, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

He even deleted it one of pages for no reasons Marik-modder (talk) 10:54, 17 September 2019 (UTC)