Talk:Xu Garden, Yangzhou

Points for inclusion if better sourcing can be found

The Chinese Wiki page for Xu Baoshan states (without a source) that a building in the park serves as the ancestral hall for Xu's family. Include that in the article if a source can be found.

Similarly, the zh.wiki article for Slender West Lake says that it's now 0.6 ha and that there's an annual chrysanthemum festival in August.

DK Eyewitness China (and apparently only them on the entire internet) mention another structure in the garden is the "Pinyuan Lou" (??楼) with "views that supposedly demonstrate the rules of perspective as compiled by the Song artist Guo Xi." Presumably they misspelled something (?) but if the original Chinese could be found and the claim shown to be accurate, the guide itself could be used as a source. — LlywelynII 07:54, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by PrimalMustelid talk 17:27, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

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"Four Bridges in Rain and Mist", a famed view from Xu Garden

• ... that Xu Garden was created by a benevolent public grateful for their local warlord? Source: Zhang Xiaohui (2015), "An Analysis of the Gardens Reflecting Democratic Revolution in the Republic of China" (PDF), International Conference on Arts, Design, and Contemporary Education, Amsterdam: Atlantis Press, p. 419.
  • ALT1: ... that Xu Garden in Yangzhou, China, is particularly famed for its woodwork and views (drawing pictured)? Source: Knowles, Christopher (1999), Exploring China, New York: Fodor's, p. 197. "Four Bridges in Mist", Official site, Yangzhou: Slender West Lake Scenic Spot, 2024.
  • ALT2: ... that Xu Garden is located within Yangzhou's Slender West Lake scenic area? Source: "Xuyuan Garden", Official site, Yangzhou: Slender West Lake Scenic Spot, 2023.
  • Reviewed: Bambie Thug

Created by LlywelynII (talk). Self-nominated at 12:19, 31 January 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Xu Garden, Yangzhou; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Nice article and hooks, but I have a strong preference for ALT0. I also don't think running the image is viable unless ALT1 is chosen, to which I have added the normal format. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:57, 17 February 2024 (UTC)

Just checking

@Entranced98: What exactly is the problem with the Wikidata or automatically transcluded short description? (I wouldn't've done anything but the note before specifically said it was replacing the Wikidata description which was entirely needless.) — LlywelynII 11:51, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

Only a few widely used infoboxes automatically transclude short descriptions from Wikidata itself into Wikipedia articles without the use of the {{Short description}} template. Since {{Infobox Chinese}} doesn't appear to be among these, the short description will only show up on the Wikipedia page if this additional template is added.

I cut the short description down a little to a custom one (rather than the verbatim Wikidata one) for the sake of brevity, which was why the edit summary for these changes (which was generated automatically by the Shortdesc helper tool) flagged it up as a replacement. I do agree that such summaries can be a little unclear on this front, but I hope that this clears things up. Please feel free to let me know if you have any more questions about this. Entranced98 (talk) 12:08, 3 February 2024 (UTC)