Talk:Jet Lag: The Game

List of episodes

I'm intending to add a list of episodes once the draft article List of Jet Lag: The Game episodes is approved Radiantgoose420 (talk) 01:46, 19 March 2023 (UTC)

I've added in episode lists for all available series, and added references to the article. I've submitted it for re-evaluation for moving to the article namespace, and out of the draft namespace. Sgdw (talk) 17:31, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Could/should crime spree be added as season 0 in the season list? They have mentioned it being effectively a pilot for Jet Lag as a whole. Spinwin2 (talk) 21:00, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

I would say not to add it onto the episode list as it lacks the Jet Lag branding and is always talked about as a separate thing to Jet Lag despite being a pilot. The mention of it in the background section suffices. BritishMew (talk) 22:14, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

This is a bit late (I only just realized this article finally got made) but I would argue the opposite and believe since it has officially been considered the pilot season for jet lag the game by the companion podcast (a few times now) I feel that it is worthy of adding it to a seasons list but just with a note saying that is has been retconned into being a jet lag season and isn’t branded as a jet lag season. Wyndon Guy (talk) 22:48, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 16:35, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

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• ... that the contestants on Jet Lag: The Game played a game of capture the flag that spanned the entirety of Japan? Source: https://kotaku.com/youtube-jet-lag-the-game-wendover-board-game-japan-1850641453
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Created by Spaghettifier (talk). Self-nominated at 20:54, 9 November 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Jet Lag: The Game; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

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Overall: First of all, thank you @Spaghettifier: for rescuing this page from the draftspace! I actually watched the first season of Jet Lag not too long ago, so I'm glad to see it has an article now 🙂 No significant copyright violations according to Copyvio either (though, if you wanted to, I would paraphrase the quote "strong, frequent, reliable, or semi-reliable, public transportation," as it seems like the same information could be conveyed without using quote and shorter, but that's up to you). My only concern is where you got the information for your "Guests" section of the table? I don't doubt the information is true, but the citation provided just links to the Jet Lag Nebula channel without further information. When this is fixed, I have no problem with passing, cheers! Johnson524 19:11, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Thanks @Johnson524: appreciate the review! Good point about the guest citation — I added a ref to the IMDb cast page which has dropdowns for each contestant and the episodes/dates in which they appeared. Spaghettifier (talk) 19:23, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

That should work! For future reference though, be careful using IMDb as a source, as it can sometimes be considered unreliable (see Wikipedia:Citing IMDb for more info on that). Cheers! Johnson524 19:31, 10 November 2023 (UTC)

Half as Interesting

Currently, Half as Interesting is never mentioned on the page, despite Ben Doyle and Adam Chase first being writers for that channel. Should a little more information be dedicated towards that? HaapsaluYT (talk) 19:09, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

Countries and locales visited

Is it possible to add a map of where the series is filmed along with the table of countries similar to those found in articles relating to The Amazing Race? This is a travel show that is inspired by The Amazing Race anyways. 叶骅庆 (talk) 03:38, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Added a map and table in the style of the ones on the TAR page, thanks for the suggestion! DooplissForce (talk) 16:18, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Can you update Italy on the map? Much appreciated! Jd101991 (talk) 03:45, 18 August 2024 (UTC)

Au$tralia Section Link

It appears the section link for Season 10 in the Table of Contents appears as "Au/$tralia" for me, which breaks the link. Does anyone else see that and/or know how to fix it? Cerebral726 (talk) 13:02, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

It appears fine for me, maybe ask at the Help desk. LouisOrr27 (talk) 13:51, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

There is a bug report for this issue at phab:T365413 now, see Wikipedia:Help_desk#Dollar_sign_in_section_header for further discussion.-- Cerebral726 (talk) 15:56, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Episode Views

Was thinking of putting a count of views per episode chart somewhere. I would only include youtube. Anyone like the idea? Jd101991 (talk) 17:12, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

As views constantly change you would have to put an “as of date” 6 June 2024 for example. I don’t have nebula so I don’t know if it shows view numbers but I think a combined would be better if possible. SimplyLouis27 (talk) 17:29, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

100% Jd101991 (talk) 17:31, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

I'm doing a youtube table first, then nebula Jd101991 (talk) 17:38, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

I don’t think this would be a valuable addition. See WP:CRUFT. Cerebral726 (talk) 17:43, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Well we do so I'm going to do it Jd101991 (talk) 17:44, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

There is not a consensus to add it in, a discussion must be had first. Do not edit war. Cerebral726 (talk) 18:41, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Everyone agrees and you delete EVERYTHING everyone wants. You don't even watch this and don't know anything Jd101991 (talk) 18:45, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

A table of view counts would not add anything significant to a reader's understanding of the topic. Can you find a WP:RS that reports the individual episode view counts as notable? That may have been more acceptable if we already had a table of individual episodes (which would be excessive for this show in all likelihood), but a standalone table is not WP:DUE. Cerebral726 (talk) 19:31, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

And one person said the country map and they did it without taken down Jd101991 (talk) 18:46, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

There's no nebula view count on nebula Jd101991 (talk) 18:20, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

They don’t add it. No point of showing views from only 1 platform. SimplyLouis27 (talk) 19:21, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Sounds good! if they ever do nebula in the future, we can discuss if we should add it. Jd101991 (talk) 19:23, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Question About "The Getaway" Spinoff

Can someone please add the new spinoff coming this summer, The Getaway, to the article? I tried to add it when it got announced but then someone removed it! It upsets me because it is related to Jet Lag as a spinoff! It is not even on the Jet Lag wiki on Fandom either! Please? Thank you. 129.255.230.11 (talk) 17:58, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

When did you put this in so I can take a look. Also, what is your username? Jd101991 (talk) 18:23, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

It was on April 11, 2024 during my doctor appointment. I just finished my dental cleaning. I am sorry because I have no username. 129.255.230.11 (talk) 20:28, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

I’ll look when I get a chance Jd101991 (talk) 21:10, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

You need to use a valid and reliable source if adding content. SimplyLouis27 (talk) 19:25, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

There are reliable sources, I’m just asking when he tried to write this Jd101991 (talk) 19:26, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

I used a source when I added that Ben is the son of Larry Doyle but it got removed but the source is still there. My source is Ms. Jennifer Maas at Variety.com at the link https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/jet-lag-the-game-new-show-getaway-premiere-date-nebula-1235956944/ but I do not like adding sources because it is all true. I did not even realize I could add sources until late 2023. Sometimes, I try to add a source on other articles, but it gets removed! 129.255.230.11 (talk) 20:33, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

User is reverting edits

Can someone please talk to the user @Cerebral726 and tell them not to revert everyone's edits. They say I am the only one who's making edits, but they are in fact the only ones who are writing the wrong things. Jd101991 (talk) 18:44, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

They stated a valid reason, if you think you have a problem report it to either WP:ANI/I or WP:AN SimplyLouis27 (talk) 19:24, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Also, please use edit summaries. SimplyLouis27 (talk) 19:25, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Season 11

Someone should add season 11. We have confirmation that Season 11 will be based in italy (possibly somewhere else too) with only Ben, Sam and Adam. AgentBons (talk) 10:07, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Do you have a WP:RS stating that information? Currently all that has been added previous was making assumptions based on a photo the crew took. Cerebral726 (talk) 11:56, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

It's not assumptions though. We know for sure Jd101991 (talk) 13:47, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

What reliable source do you have that Season 11 is being filmed in Italy? I totally agree that that is an likelihood the WP:TRUTH, but do you have anything that is WP:VERIFIABLE? Cerebral726 (talk) 14:05, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

A group of 1000 people and people watching them film. It's not like they burned the channel and are vlogging their life running around italy.

Let me ask, do you even watch jet lag? Jd101991 (talk) 14:07, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Don't patronise other editors. SimplyLouis27 (talk) 14:15, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Try reading WP:RS, WP:OR, and WP:V and you'll understand why saying "people watching them film" shows a misunderstanding of how Wikipedia is built. Cerebral726 (talk) 14:31, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

It is not for sure, like @Cerebral726 said, it is incredibly likely however there is currently noting currently reliable to confirm it. SimplyLouis27 (talk) 14:16, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

I've put the details in about 20 times but the user who replied earlier has kept reverting them. I give up as I'm taking my time to make it each time Jd101991 (talk) 13:47, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Edits were reversed as the sources you used were not considered reliable. SimplyLouis27 (talk) 14:03, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Tell that to the agent bons person above, they were asking Jd101991 (talk) 14:04, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Season pages

Does anyone tink I should make each season a whole wikipedia page where the whole season is broke down with every detail that happens? Jd101991 (talk) 13:50, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

No, Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia not a place to break down and analyse tv shows and movies etc. SimplyLouis27 (talk) 13:54, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

So for every tv show season, why is there a page...... Jd101991 (talk) 13:58, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Simply, there isn't enough content and WP:RS for jet lag, each page would mainly be a stub. See WP:GNG SimplyLouis27 (talk) 14:01, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

So you said before it's nt a place to write about and analyze seasons, but now you're saying that that's a lie and it's becasue there isn't enough conent?!?!? Jd101991 (talk) 14:03, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

There is not enough information from WP:RS for each season to justify an individual article. It would contain mostly WP:OR and WP:CRUFT if you were to do so. Cerebral726 (talk) 14:04, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Jet Lag isn't a TV show, it is a web series. There is a big difference. You can go ahead and make the pages if you wish but chances are they will either be speedy deleted or nominated for deletion. SimplyLouis27 (talk) 14:05, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

"Spin-off series" section

Doesn't feel like the new section for The Getaway is germane to this article. A spin-off implies some replication of characters, settings, or mechanics. The Getaway doesn't seem to relate to JLTG at all outside of the production team. The Maas Variety source cited there clarifies that "Though it’s from the same team that makes 'Jet Lag: The Game,' 'The Getaway' is a separate project from that travel competition series." Spaghettifier (talk) 20:08, 23 June 2024 (UTC)

Agreed. Moreover, I am not aware of any WP:RS that refers to The Getaway as a "spin-off" of Jet Lag, which seems instead to be an editor's misinterpretation that fails WP:NPOV. Then, because it's not actually a spin-off, the whole section fails WP:INDISCRIMINATE, so I've removed it. N --Tim Parenti (talk) 21:28, 17 August 2024 (UTC)

I promise I saw it was a spinoff somewhere! I will find it! Also, the page being locked to edits makes me very sad. I will be waiting patiently until September 11, 2024, the date the Jet Lag page will be unlocked. Also, can you please increment the number to No. of episodes: 59? The episode just released today. Thank you very much for your help. 107.19.24.147 (talk) 20:02, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

I have incremented the number to 59. If you find the source, please feel free to share it. Cerebral726 (talk) 20:44, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Just a note that I re-worked the content mentioning The Getaway into Sam Denby#The Getaway, where it is more germane, in this edit. If Wendover Productions (Denby's company, not to be confused with his YouTube channel of the same name) had its own page, it would make more sense there. --Tim Parenti (talk) 23:18, 21 August 2024 (UTC)

Episode list

@Jd101991: I do not think the episode list adds anything of value to the article and is mostly WP:FANCRUFT. Starting a talk page since you failed to follow WP:BRD and tried to edit war your contribution onto the page. Cerebral726 (talk) 00:22, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

This article is no different article than any other tv show series where all the episodes are listed. Why should they have episode tables and this not then? Please provide a reason. Jd101991 (talk) 00:35, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

The individual episodes are not particularly notable on their own. The season overview currently serve the function of providing summaries about their content at the depth that is justifiable, including the seasons' ranges of dates released. Simply listing episode titles and individual release dates adds nothing of value. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. The only thing that would make that table worthwhile would be individual episode summaries, but an episode summary would also be excessive detail and WP:CRUFT. Cerebral726 (talk) 12:50, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

This is too funny hahaha. Of course I was putting episode summaries after and that's nothing like WP:CRUFT. The reason I'm doing this is not for someone like you to go and say that. The reason is because if someone read this page, they would know info about ever6 season and what happened every episode.give me a break. Jd101991 (talk) 13:02, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

I don't think, given the way reliable sources discuss the seasons in broad strokes, individual episode summaries are justifiable for this show. Different shows should have different levels of detail that reflect the way RS's discuss them. From individual episode articles being justifiable (i.e. for prestige shows such as Breaking Bad), to season summaries being the most appropriate path forward (smaller scale shows such as this one). Cerebral726 (talk) 13:20, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

And why can't we have recaps of each episode? It provides the reader a chance to know what is happening without watching the 45 minute episode. Once I am done I am posting it and if you revert it without no other opinions, you will be haing a discussion with the board of editors at wikipedia and I have already told them about you and they know.. Please do not respond to this unless you have changed your mind and are in agreement with me. Jd101991 (talk) 15:49, 19 August 2024 (UTC)

Per WP:BRD, please gain WP:CONCENSUS before reinserting text that has been objected to. Failing to do so may constitute WP:EDITWARRING. Stop posting bogus veiled threats that are totally nonsensical, it's entirely unproductive. Cerebral726 (talk) 15:58, 19 August 2024 (UTC)