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Wikidata weekly summary #457

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • Closed request for adminship: Dr.üsenfieber (unsussesful)
  • New request for comments: P155/P156 as qualifiers only, rather than as main statements

• Events
  • Upcoming: SPARQL queries live on Twitch and in French by Vigneron, March 2 at 18:00 CET
  • Upcoming video: LIVE Wikidata editing #34 Open Data Day - YouTube, Facebook, March 6
  • Upcoming: Online Wikidata meetup in Swedish #52, March 7
  • Upcoming: Wikidata bug triage hour about Lexemes, March 22nd
  • Upcoming: Wikidata-based Data Sprint hosted by the University of New Brunswick. One Wikidata data set will be provided on 11th March 2021 and various teams will have 2 hours to run a set of SPARQL queries against the Wikidata Query Service (WDQS) and showcase their results.

• Press, articles, blog posts, videos
  • Blogpost: Wikidata and Correspondence Archives (Enriching basic metadata with a knowledge graph)
  • Blogpost: The promise of Wikidata - How journalists can use the crowdsourced open knowledge base as a data source (at DataJournalism.com)
  • Video: Accra Archive Wikidata and Wikipedia Workshop (GLAMS Campaign Ghana) - YouTube
  • Video: COVID-19 coverage on Wikidata - YouTube
  • Video: Identify and describe items of bibliographic interest (articles, monographs, authors) on Wikidata (in Italian) - YouTube
  • Video: Visualizing the global research ecosystem via Wikidata and Scholia - YouTube
  • Video: Demo: How to upload new bibliography and create dashboards on Wikidata - YouTube
  • Video: Reconciliation Open Refine Wikidata (in Swedish) - YouTube
  • Video: Reconciling researchers to Wikidata via Google Sheets - YouTube
  • Video: LIVE Wikidata editing #33 - YouTube, Facebook
  • Video: How to create new Wikidata item (in Dutch) - YouTube
  • Video: Merging Wikidata items (in Dutch) - YouTube

• Tool of the week
  • EditSum, a new user script which allows to attach custom summary text to any label/statement/sitelink/etc. modification.
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • User:Nikki/LexemeInterwikiLinks.js, is a userscript that adds Wiktionary interwiki links in the sidebar on Lexeme pages. (It links to pages corresponding to the first lemma and puts the lexeme language's Wiktionary first, followed by languages in the user's Babel box).
  • User:Lucas Werkmeister/addStatementCountsToCategories.js, is a userscript that shows the number of statements of the linked item for all pages in a category.
  • Shared Citations, a proposal arising from the WikiCite project, for a central reference management database supporting all Wikimedia projects, with significant relationship to Wikidata. Seeking feedback.
  • Modèle:Indice de diversité de genre (Template:Gender diversity index) is a new template in the French Wikipedia which use P21 (gender property) to count the number of people by gender mentioned in an article. It helps to find articles which "forget" to cite women.
  • Lexeme JSON dumps are now available as a collection of individual lexeme data in the regular JSON format, separate from the regular Wikidata dumps containing Items and Properties. phab:T264883
  • We found a way to improve the performance of scrolling on the Item page by changing how we move the Property labels as you scroll through the page. You should see the effect after the next deployment.
  • BBC Things includes links to Wikidata to provide a single reference for the growing collection of entities that matter to the BBC and their audiences.

• Did you know?
  • Newest properties:
    • General datatypes: number of at bats, number of hits, bases on balls, runs batted in, letterer, sensors, FAQ URL, set during recurring event, stolen bases, doubles hit, triples hit
    • External identifiers: Germanistenverzeichnis ID, uta-net.com song ID, uta-net.com artist ID, AllMusic genre/style ID, DicoPolHiS ID, EuroBabeIndex.com ID, Sauvons nos tombes cemetery ID, LombardiaBeniCulturali archive producer person ID, LombardiaBeniCulturali archive producer organization ID, LombardiaBeniCulturali archive producer family ID, BookBub author ID, TlF artist ID, Encyclopédie berbère article ID, Protagonisti della storia delle scienze della mente ID, English Placenames MADS ID, Norwegian State Administration Database ID, teatral.ro play/theater ID, CineFAN.ro title ID, CinemaRX title ID, Sinemalar title ID, Swissvote ID, Bourgogne-Franche-Comté inventory identifier, Île-de-France inventory identifier, Normandie inventory identifier, Pays de la Loire inventory identifier, Wisconsin Architecture and History Inventory ID, Dizionario biografico online degli anarchici italiani ID, Swedish Literature Bank place ID, Opera Online conductor ID, Discogs genre ID, Discogs style ID, Danmarks Adresseregister named street ID, bashenc.online ID, Provenio UUID, JedeSchule.de ID, ARAE ID, Encyclopedia Titanica ID, U.S. Masters Swimming ID, DzygaMDB person ID, NLS place type ID, Archivo Linz de la Transición Española ID
  • New property proposals to review:
    • General datatypes: demographics of topic, strikeouts, district heating, number of signatories, opt-out, payer, secondary topic, grant number, Future Salaries ID, Index égalité professionnelle F/H, Commons incompatible image URL, verbal ability
    • External identifiers: Diccionari de la traducció catalana ID, ANPI person ID, ANPI person numeric ID, APS author ID, EEVA author ID, Archives West finding aid ID, BiographySampo person ID, Discord server numeric ID, Discord user numeric ID, CUT ID, Amathus ID, EUC ID, UPSA ID, RePEc EconPapers ID, Dark Horse contributor ID, ComiXology publisher ID, Austrian Newspapers Online ID, Cyprus Library ID, MyMusic artist ID, LFCHistory.net player ID, MeSH qualifier ID
  • Query examples:
    • Hungarian church buildings sorted by confessions (Source)
    • Where Czechs most died if not in their place of birth (Source)
    • Most popular tonalities (Source)
  • Newest WikiProjects:
    • WikiProject Templates for templates in Wikidata

• Development
  • Working on first version of small tool that lets you get the average ORES quality score for a list of Items and find the lowest-quality Items in the batch so it's easier to improve them.
  • Taking a closer look at what larger improvements we want to make to Lexemes later this year.
  • Thinking through different ways how we can technically get mismatches between Wikidata's data and other databases so we can later expose them.
  • Thinking through what the first version of the REST API should contain and what should come later.
  • Fixed an issue with whitespaces when editing Lexemes (phab:T250550)
  • Made sure all languages show up in the language selector for monolingual text Properties at least with their language code because them not showing up was very confusing (phab:T124758)
  • Fixed an issue with generating correct links for external IDs with + (phab:T271126)
  • Fixing an issue with Property selector not falling back from language variant to major language (phab:T272712)
  • Continuing to build out the Query Builder and focusing on input for quantity and date queries (phab:T268942 and phab:T272697)
  • Due to the planned delay of the release of MediaWiki 1.36, the Wikibase team has been working on preparing a Wikibase update that includes new functionality (such as the “Federated Properties” feature) based on v1.35. To that end, we started backporting certain features and fixes into the Wikibase 1.35 release. Follow our progress here.

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

• Monthly Tasks
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
  • Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
  • Contribute to a Showcase item.
  • Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
  • Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
  • Help write the next summary!

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Mohammed Sadat (WMDE) 14:45, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – March 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2021).

Administrator changes

TJMSmith

Boing! said Zebedee • Hiberniantears • Lear's Fool • Only • WGFinley

Interface administrator changes

AmandaNP

Guideline and policy news

• A request for comment is open that proposes a process for the community to revoke administrative permissions. This follows a 2019 RfC in favor of creating one such a policy.
• A request for comment is in progress to remove F7 (invalid fair-use claim) subcriterion a, which covers immediate deletion of non-free media with invalid fair-use tags.
• A request for comment seeks to grant page movers the delete-redirect userright, which allows moving a page over a single-revision redirect, regardless of that redirect's target. The full proposal is at Wikipedia:Page mover/delete-redirect.
• A request for comment asks if sysops may place the General sanctions/Coronavirus disease 2019 editnotice template on pages in scope that do not have page-specific sanctions?
• There is a discussion in progress concerning automatic protection of each day's featured article with Pending Changes protection.

Technical news

• When blocking an IPv6 address with Twinkle, there is now a checkbox with the option to just block the /64 range. When doing so, you can still leave a block template on the initial, single IP address' talkpage.
• When protecting a page with Twinkle, you can now add a note if doing so was in response to a request at WP:RfPP, and even link to the specific revision.
• There have been a number of reported issues with Pending Changes. Most problems setting protection appear to have been resolved (phab:T273317) but other issues with autoaccepting edits persist (phab:T275322).

Arbitration

• By motion, the discretionary sanctions originally authorized under the GamerGate case are now authorized under a new Gender and sexuality case, with sanctions authorized for all edits about, and all pages related to, any gender-related dispute or controversy and associated people. Sanctions issued under GamerGate are now considered Gender and sexuality sanctions.
• The Kurds and Kurdistan case was closed, authorizing standard discretionary sanctions for the topics of Kurds and Kurdistan, broadly construed.

Miscellaneous

• Following the 2021 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: AmandaNP, Operator873, Stanglavine, Teles, and Wiki13.

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 19:14, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Todo Template Suggested for deletion in CKB-Wiki

Hello i want to inform you that Template:todo has been suggested for deletion i think the template is related to you it is from CKB wikipedia [here], thank you. Sakura emad (talk) 00:59, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Sakura emad This is simply a redirect, I suspect all uses now use the better name. Thanks for letting me know. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 10:59, 2 March 2021 (UTC).

The Ninja

@Jack Sebastian: I noticed you tagged some statements in that article. Possibly this ref. might help. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 08:44, 5 March 2021 (UTC).

Wikidata weekly summary #458

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Events
  • Past: SORSE - Wikidata as a research tool for data modelling and integration in the humanities (replay on YouTube)
  • Past: Open Data Day Taiwan 2021 2021-03-06 , Taipei (Q1867), Taichung (Q245023), Tainan (Q140631) and online stream (FB and Youtube)
  • Upcoming: OSM TW x Wikidata Taiwan Taipei (Q1867) Meetup 2021-03-08 Mozilla Community Space Taipei (Q61752245)
  • Upcoming: Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call: OCLC Research’s CONTENTdm Wikibase data model for pilot project to improve collection discoverability, Tuesday, March 9th.[1]
  • Upcoming: SPARQL queries live on Twitch and in French by Vigneron, March 9 at 18:00 CET
  • Upcoming: LIVE Wikidata editing #35 - YouTube, Facebook, March 13
  • Upcoming: Online Wikidata meetup in Swedish #53, March 14

• Press, articles, blog posts, videos
  • Blogs
    • "Giving knowledge back to Wikipedia: Towards a Systematic Approach to Sync Factual Data across Wikipedia, Wikidata and External Data Sources" (by DBPedia)
  • Papers
    • Open Natural Products Research: Curation and Dissemination of Biological Occurrences of Chemical Structures through Wikidata
    • A paper describing COVIWD: COVIWD: COVID-19 Wikidata Dashboard
  • Videos
    • Wikidata and Abstract Wikipedia by Denny Vrandečić - YouTube
    • Working hour on items of bibliographic interest in Wikidata (in Italian) -YouTube
    • Open Data Day Taiwan 2021 -Youtube Live
    • LIVE Wikidata editing #34 Open Data Day - YouTube, Facebook

• Tool of the week
  • Panoviewer.js inserts an iframe from the Panoviewer tool to photosphere image (P4640) statements.

• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Wikidata has now items about nine million people: 99,991,000,000 to do (project chat)
  • A new browser for Wikidata is available: the SLING knowledge base browser by User:Mringgaard. It is lightning fast and entirely based on modern Web components.
  • Help choose focus languages for improvements to the lexicographic extension of Wikidata and Abstract Wikipedia. Nominations should be submitted by April 7, and the decision will be made by April 14 by the teams taking your comments into account.
  • Help to choose a design concept for the logo of the new Wikifunctions wiki. Voting ends before Monday March 15th 23:59 UTC.
  • PetScan can now generate KML map overlay data. E.g. University towns in Germany. (Map view)

• Did you know?
  • Newest properties:
    • General datatypes: supplement to, seismic classification, reissue of, staking percentage, affiliated worker organisation, demographics of topic, assessment outcome, notation writer
    • External identifiers: Archivo Linz de la Transición Española ID, Obituaries Australia ID, XXXBios female performer ID, RDA value vocabularies ID, Encyclopedia of Seventh-day Adventists ID, Whiskybase distillery ID, NParks Flora & Fauna Web ID, Women Australia ID, Labour Australia ID, Indigenous Australia ID, Pontifical University of Salamanca ID, EEVA author ID, Nauvoo Community Project ID, Cyprus Library ID, Cyprus University of Technology ID, Amathus ID, European University Cyprus ID, Museo Nacional de la Estampa ID, Resident Advisor club ID, Diccionari de la traducció catalana ID, CPC-PR ID, Austrian Newspapers Online ID, Oklahoma's NRHP ID, ChemRxiv ID, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur Inventory ID, FFF player ID (new scheme), Physics Magazine author ID, Ligue 1 player ID, ANPI person numeric ID, Science Magazine author ID, Odnoklassniki user numeric ID
  • New property proposals to review:
    • General datatypes: verbal ability, 易玩應用程序標識符, earned run average, named place on map, inhabitants of topic, consequence of text, writing style, applicant, co-applicant, Cantonese romanisation, repairability
    • External identifiers: MeSH qualifier ID, Encyclopedia of Ostrava person ID, Encyclopedia of Plzeň person ID, Stadtlexikon Karlsruhe, Museum of the jewish people ID, Encyclopaedia Herder concept ID, Encyclopedia of Greater Philadelphia ID, Biblioteca Capitolare di Verona author ID, Enciclopedia de Puerto Rico, PorcelanaBrasil ID, Eesti entsüklopeedia ID, Encyclopedia of Melbourne ID, Cyprus Bibliography ID, JaneladaHistoria ID, OsobnostiRegionu.cz ID, Encyclopedia of French Cultural Heritage in North America ID, Encyclopédie du patrimoine culturel de l'Amérique française ID, Inforegister ID, Terezín Memorial Database ID, AWB lemma ID, MWB lemma ID, MHDBDB lemma ID, Woerterbuchnetz.de IDs for Middle High German, Lëtzebuerger Online Dictionnaire ID, Woerterbuchnetz.de IDs for modern German, Das wissenschaftliche Bibellexikon im Internet ID
  • Query examples:
    • Deceased people with verified Twitter accounts (source)
    • members of Ludlamshöhle, a society in Vienna (1819-1826) (source)
    • Things discovered or invented by women (Source)
  • Newest WikiProjects:
    • Wikidata:WikiProject Early Modern England and Wales (WD:WP EMEW)
  • Newest database reports:
    • Gadget usage statistics - Includes gadgets enabled in preferences or common.js

• Development
  • Fixed an issue where the Property selector is not falling back from language variant to major language (phab:T272712)
  • Working on support for editing statements on Senses on Lexemes via wbeditentity (phab:T199896)
  • Continuing to work on the Query Builder and making it possible to query for quantities and dates with it.
  • Putting finishing touches on a small tool that lets you get the average ORES quality score for a list of Items as well as the individual scores for each of the Items

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

• Monthly Tasks
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
  • Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
  • Contribute to a Showcase item.
  • Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
  • Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
  • Help write the next summary!

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Mohammed Sadat (WMDE) 17:01, 8 March 2021 (UTC)

Replacing EngvarB

Hey Rich, I took a quick look at the history of Irish euro coins after making a quick fix there and noticed you'd made an error during one of your runs. So {{EngvarB}} is not the exact same as {{Use British English}}, but is a placeholder of sorts that could be any variety where -ise is preferred to ize. Of course there's nothing wrong with replacing it with a more specific template where appropriate, if the article consistently spells it fiord then go ahead and replace with {{Use New Zealand English}}, and likewise with any article that has naturally evolved to a specific variety, but again it's not a blind search and replace.

The other thing to bear in mind is that sometimes a more generic template is used deliberately to avoid needless edit-warring and bad feelings. {{EngvarB}} is probably best for articles that have anything to do with the long and frought history of Anglo-Irish relations. Likewise, for Kashmiri related articles it's probably best not to replace it with either {{Use Pakistani English}} or {{Use Indian English}}. Although, I suppose {{Use Commonwealth English}} would be ok there, and I think is also used for many other things with ties to multiple commonwealth nations where writers try to keep the spelling and vocabulary somewhat generic.

Anyway it's a minor error that's already been fixed, but it may be worthwhile to check back on some of your other recent edits to see if there are any similar ones page watchers haven't caught yet. Cheers, 71.46.56.65 (talk) 13:53, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

"3.1415926535897932384626433832795" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect 3.1415926535897932384626433832795. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 14#3.1415926535897932384626433832795 until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. O.N.R. ^(talk) 04:21, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikidata weekly summary #459

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • Open request for adminship: Minorax (RfP scheduled to end after 19 March 2021 11:23 UTC)

• Events
  • Upcoming: 30 Lexic-o-days, events and projects around lexicographical data, from March 15th to April 14th. (full schedule, details and links here)
    • March 15: Kickstart and open discussion about lexicographical data
    • March 16: SPARQL queries about Lexemes (in French) with Vigneron
    • March 17: Documentation Q&A with Dan Shick
    • March 20: Live editing on Lexemes with Ainali and Abbe98
    • March 22: Bug triage hour about Lexemes with Lydia Pintscher
  • Upcoming: Online Wikidata meetup in Swedish #54, March 21
  • Upcoming: Wikidata - The Linked Open Data Platform Everyone Can Contribute To (Public talk) - Registration link

• Press, articles, blog posts, videos
  • Blogs
    • Internet Archive Scholar is launched - Wikidata is thanked in the acknowledgements
    • 10 basic but essential SPARQL queries for lexicographical data on Wikidata
    • Using Wikidata to model Aberdeen’s Industrial Heritage
    • Carnegie Hall experienced a veritable rock explosion during its 1971-72 season, with 70 rock concerts between September 1971 and June 1972
    • Writing your own data to Wikidata using spreadsheets: Part 1
  • Videos
    • OpenStreetMap x Wikidata Taiwan Meetup Record - Odysee
    • RDF data model of Wikidata - YouTube
    • OpenRefine​ / SPARQL editing session with Saint-Raymond Museum in Toulouse. By VIGNERON - YouTube
    • LIVE Wikidata editing #35 - YouTube, Facebook
    • An initial look at the TopicTagger tool for Wikidata - YouTube

• Tool of the week
  • User:Nikki/LexemeToggleSections.js script allows to expand/collapse the sections on lexeme pages.

• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Plant Humanities Lab is a website you can use to explore the cultural histories of plants and their influence on human societies.
  • DX Lab Art Index is an interactive database of over 18,000 nineteenth century Australian Artworks by over 2000 artists with links to Wikidata & compiled by volunteers over 10 years.
  • The new WDQS Streaming Updater is live as of March 15, 2021 on a pre-production test server for feedback. Available at https://query-preview.wikidata.org/. Release details here.
  • Wikimedia Foundation Research Award of the Year - Call for Nominations! The research must be on, about, using data from, and/or of importance to Wikipedia, Wikidata, Wikimedia Commons or other Wikimedia projects. Deadline to submit your nomination is no later than 2021-03-22.

• Did you know?
  • Newest properties:
    • General datatypes: assessment outcome, music transcriber, subsidy, inverse agonist of, gender equality index, transitivity, script style
    • External identifiers: Oklahoma's NRHP ID, ChemRxiv ID, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur Inventory ID, FFF player ID (new scheme), Physics Magazine author ID, Ligue 1 player ID, ANPI person numeric ID, Science Magazine author ID, Odnoklassniki user numeric ID, ANSI/NISO standard ID, Kickstarter username, DeCS ID, RePEc EconPapers ID, Encyclopedia of Ostrava History person ID, LFChistory.net player ID, Pandektis ID, Museum of the Jewish People at Beit Hatfutsot ID, Encyclopedia of Greater Philadelphia ID, Catalogue of the Capitular Library of Verona author ID, AaRC film ID, GB1900 ID, Stadtlexikon Karlsruhe ID, Encyclopaedia Herder concept ID, Cyprus Bibliography ID, EncyclopediaPR ID, Filmitalia person ID, TikTok music ID, Eesti entsüklopeedia ID, Encyclopédie du patrimoine culturel de l'Amérique française ID, AIATSIS Place Thesaurus ID, AIATSIS Subject Thesaurus ID, Astro Awani topic ID, TapTap application ID, Encyclopedia of Plzeň person ID, OsobnostiRegionu.cz ID, Terezín Memorial Database ID, National Gallery of Art Library Bibliographic ID, svoyak.info player ID, Encyclopedia of Melbourne ID, Max Movie person ID, EudraCT trial ID, Fancyclopedia 3 ID, operator licence number
  • New property proposals to review:
    • General datatypes: Cantonese romanisation, repairability, Gedong Kirtya classification, Valence, has graphical element, Antarctic Specially Protected Area ID, CBO Occupation Code (en) / Classificação Brasileira de Ocupações (CBO) (pt), Reason for unknown/no value, generalization of/generalized by, acronym, Sales of arms and military services, formé en même temps que, Suggested fields
    • External identifiers: AWB lemma ID, MWB lemma ID, MHDBDB lemma ID, Woerterbuchnetz.de IDs for Middle High German, Lëtzebuerger Online Dictionnaire ID, Woerterbuchnetz.de IDs for modern German, Das wissenschaftliche Bibellexikon im Internet ID, SVKKL authority ID, Demozoo Group ID, GameSpot developer ID, Washington Place Names ID, PatER ID, Latin Place Names ID, Enslaved ID, Ávvir topic ID, Salaborsa building ID, storiaememoriadibologna ID, UniversalMusic France artist ID, Oxford African American Studies Center ID, La Fenice Theatre in Venice person ID, MeSH descriptor/qualifier ID, Biblioteca Digital Curt Nimuendajú researcher ID, Fortalezas.org ID, Keratsini-Drapetsona libraries' catalogue authority ID, France24 topic ID, CNA topic ID, Portrait Archive ID, athletics.lv athlete id, temples.ru ID
  • Query examples:
    • Latin American women who are activists and were born between 1900-1999 (ordered by the number of articles written on Wikipedia) (Source)
    • Transportation routes in Zurich named after women (Source)
    • Location of buildings designed by Zaha Hadid (Source)
    • Proportion of Basque men / women in Donostialdea region (Source)
    • Count of the industry companies on Wikidata belong to (Source)
    • Danish verbs-derived-from-non-verbs (Source)
    • Mountains of the Basque Country (Source)

• Development
  • Continued working on the Query Builder and focused on querying for quantity values (phab:T268942), handling special cases around sub classes for taxons and locations (phab:T274634) adding tooltips (phab:T275542) and sharing a visual query (phab:T272887)
  • Making changes to how Cognate handles redirects on Wiktionary to make more pages accessible through interwiki links (phab:T165061)
  • Creating a dashboard to break down the number of editors by namespace (phab:T275999)
  • Finishing support for editing statements on Senses on Lexemes via wbeditentity API module (phab:T199896)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

• Monthly Tasks
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
  • Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
  • Contribute to a Showcase item.
  • Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
  • Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
  • Help write the next summary!

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Mohammed Sadat (WMDE) 17:12, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Panther motorcycle (North America)

The article Panther motorcycle (North America) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Non-notable motorcycle, nothing to indicate notability.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. JayJay^{What did I do?} 02:33, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Panther motorcycle (China)

The article Panther motorcycle (China) has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Non-notable motorcycle, nothing to indicate notability.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. JayJay^{What did I do?} 02:33, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

"Template:United States Senators from maine" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Template:United States Senators from maine. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 16#Template:United States Senators from maine until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Elli (talk | contribs) 05:17, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

"Category:Italian Folk Music" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Category:Italian Folk Music. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 March 18#Category:Italian Folk Music until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. MClay1 (talk) 08:42, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Cosmetic editing, again

Hi! As far as I can see, this edit made no perceptible difference to the rendered page. Are you not under a permanent restriction from making such edits? I note that the restriction (the first of the four to which you are subject) specifically prohibits changes to the capitalisation of templates, but with that edit you changed {{short description}} to {{Short description}}. That edit is just one of many that made the same two trivial and unnecessary changes. At 17.36 UTC today you made 10 edits; how did you do that without using automated processes? Ping Ealdgyth, Mdaniels5757 and TonyBallioni, who participated in this discussion in April last year. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:02, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

You are pointing to the wrong edit. The edit changes the category to Use British English, which changes the rendered page, and is not therefore a "cosmetic" edit.

As to automated processes, there is neither a prohibition in place relating to them, nor a necessity to resort to them them to make ten edits per minute.

Thanks for your encouragement.

All the best: Rich Farmbrough 20:14, 28 February 2021 (UTC).

I wasn't going to get into this today (it's supposed to be my day to goof off with hubby) but ... The change in categories is not actually rendered - it's a hidden category in both cases. This is the previous version - note the "member of 34 hidden categories at the bottom which lists the cat as Category:Use British English from October 2013. After the edit - this is the diff - at the bottom are still listed 34 hidden categories and the category is unchanged - Category:Use British English from October 2013. Near as I can see... nothing has changed on the rendered page - even if we consider the hidden category a "rendered" change. I wish you'd spend as much time productively editing as trying to figure out ways to game things... it'd be a lot easier on everyone. Ealdgyth (talk) 20:28, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

No one is compelling you to get involved, nor yet to make ad hominem attacks.

Fixing an incorrect categorization is productive editing.

The category is changed, if you look at the "Pages transcluded onto the current version of this page" section in the link you gave, you will see {{Template:Use British English}} - despite the fact that it is not in the edit box. Welcome to the limitations of the WikiMedia software.

All the best: Rich Farmbrough 20:36, 28 February 2021 (UTC).

Yes, wrong diff. See this one instead (sorry 'bout that). The edit does not change the rendered page, as Ealdgyth rightly says. The second of the four restrictions to which you are subject clearly states "... he is entirely prohibited from using Auto Wiki Browser"; if you aren't using that, what automated process are you using that so accurately reproduces its behaviour? It also reads "Rich Farmbrough is not permitted to make any mass changes to articles, broadly construed, and regardless of editing method, cosmetic or not, without a demonstrable consensus from the community that he is explicitly permitted to do so". Where exactly is the demonstrable consensus that allows you repeatedly to change {{EngvarB}} to {{Use British English}}, even in articles such as Highland cattle where it is clearly inappropriate to do so? (per WP:TIES, if it's to use a specific subset of EngvarB, that should be Scottish English). You are clearly and specifically prohibited from messing with the capitalisation of templates, yet you continue to do so. You are clearly and specifically prohibited from "changing template redirects to templates (see here for AWB stock changes on this item, with the understanding that bypassing template redirects will only be done when there is a substantive edit being done", yet you continue to do so (here, for example). Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:09, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

You are welcome to further refine {{Use British English}} to {{Use Scottish English}}, {{Use English English}} and {{Use Welsh English}} if you wish. For me the utility in doing this is marginal, because the spelling does not vary significantly, if at all, between these varieties of English, especially in the formal register.

It appears you are searching for any ground that can result in action taken against me. There's not a lot I can do about that, but hope you will see this is not productive.

All the best: Rich Farmbrough 21:34, 28 February 2021 (UTC).

(edit conflict) So it did not in fact impact the rendering on the page, which is what your editing restriction is for. To my knowledge you have never agreed that any of your ban violations are in fact ban violations, so I don’t think it’s productive to argue about that point with you. Since everyone else seems to agree it was cosmetic, I’ll go ahead and skip to the next question: Consensus in respect of Rich Farmbrough's editing restrictions shall be defined as approval at WP:BRFA or a formally closed WP:RFC with more than ten non-canvassed participants.

Can you please point to consensus for this edit as defined by your other editing restrictions? TonyBallioni (talk) 21:11, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

It did impact the rendering on the page. I'm sure you'll block me anyway one way or another. I fail to see how doing so will improve the encyclopaedia. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 21:34, 28 February 2021 (UTC).
21:34, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

I think the discussion about whether this is cosmetic or not and what method you used to do the changes are ultimately irrelevant. What you did was a mass change. If you do a mass change, cosmetic or not, you need a consensus to support that work. Can you point to such a consensus? Barkeep49 (talk) 22:12, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

There is clearly consensus that articles should be correctly categorised. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 22:19, 28 February 2021 (UTC).

The restriction requires that you point to an explicit consensus in a BRFA or RfC for the specific changes you are making. This is now the fourth request for you to provide such a consensus. TonyBallioni (talk) 22:21, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

Block

Since the answer to the question asked by Tony and repeated by me, that is whether you have a discussion which supports the change you've done, has not been answered with a diff I'm assuming the answer is no and have blocked you for 1 month for violation of your community imposed editing restrictions. In a previous edit you said that you weren't going to edit in fear. Good. I think no editor should edit in fear. What I do hope you do is edit within community consensus which has been laid out rather extensively given your editing interests and style in the form of specific editing restrictions. If there is in fact a specific consensus that supports this change please point it to me and I will reverse this block. Barkeep49 (talk) 22:24, 28 February 2021 (UTC)

I would still be interested to know if anyone actually believes that any of my edits have made the 'pedia worse rather than better.

All the best: Rich Farmbrough 22:35, 28 February 2021 (UTC).

Rich Farmbrough, I do - on a net basis. If you consider any edit on their own on a +10 to -10 scale, where +10 is adding a new featured article and -10 is insidious vandalism in a the form of say, a long term hoax, your edits will fall in the 0 category. They don't change the encyclopedia for readers. I will accept a minor nudge to the positive category, per your arguments of usefulness - so perhaps a +0.1. However, if you are doing so by breaching your editing restrictions, you are doing your edits against the consensus of the community - not because the edit itself if against the consensus (which is debateable), but because you are the one performing it. Therefore, you are damaging the encyclopedia, and pushing the edit into the negative category - ergo, making the encyclopedia as a whole worse, rather than better. Worm^TT(talk) 11:15, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Exactly so. This is purely discriminatory behaviour.

All the best: Rich Farmbrough 10:56, 2 March 2021 (UTC).

Rich Farmbrough, you've missed my point. You are damaging the encyclopedia by making barely useful edits, which in turn cause controversy. Worm^TT(talk) 11:02, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

I have a long term goal of having a Wikipedia free from errors, including grammatical, stylistic and factual. The Engvar family of tags are important to achieving this, and over 300,000 articles have an Engvar tag.

The purpose of the tags is to identify preferred variety of English, primarily to establish the correct spelling variety for certain words.

Without these tags it may not be possible to establish if an article is using the correct spelling. (Even with them it is hard problem.) Therefore changing a tag to reflect the most narrow version of English that we identify (but no narrower) is useful, not "barely" useful.

On the other side of your calculus is disruption. It seems to me that those challenging useful and positive work, let alone those destroying it are the people who are causing the disruption. It is as if you asked for someone voluntarily picking up litter from the streets to be arrested because he was wearing a Hawaiian shirt. Or perhaps, less neutrally, a large, red, letter "A". And there are enough short-sighted admins, and there is enough first mover advantage for this to be effective.

For shame.

All the best: Rich Farmbrough 21:30, 2 March 2021 (UTC).

Rich, I'm going to take your analogy and run with it.

Firstly, you are not voluntarily picking up litter - that implies that everyone agrees with your actions. You are individually picking wildflowers, which some people agree are weeds. However, you are doing it on the side of a highway. People are concerned, because you are in the way and they're not even sure that the weeds need to be picked at all. You've been asked, multiple times, to stop doing it, but have instead moved to a different colour wildflower.

The police are eventually involved and you've been issued a ban on wildflower picking. Yet, you still insist of picking wildflower. I could even go on about your history, where you used to ride a lawnmower over all the wildflower, taking out the odd rose at the same time - but you think that didn't matter because you only killed one rose and got rid of thousands of wildflower.

So, it's not discriminatory behaviour, that someone else who happens to pick a wildflower doesn't get sanctioned for doing so and it's not about your Hawaiian shirt. It's about you not listening to everyone else and that's your problem not everyone else's.

What's more, given the perennial nature of these issues and your refusal to acknowledge that they are issues, I'm starting to believe that a 1 month block is insufficient, and perhaps something more indefinite might be appropriate. Worm^TT(talk) 11:24, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

I don't think so. You would have to show me one of these mythical wildflowers to establish any chance credibility. Ideally one in the recent past, and ideally much more than one - sufficient to outweigh the gian hogweeds, but to even consider your extension (or perhaps perversion) of my analogy, at least one.

And threats, even - maybe especially - veiled ones, become you far less than a run-of-the-mill admin.

All the best: Rich Farmbrough 09:43, 5 March 2021 (UTC).

Edits such as merely changing parameter names (especially just changing to a dash between two words) are pointless because they won't get noticed by a normal reader. They are negative to the project in the sense that you're merely increasing the memory usage on Wikipedia. Stick to your editing restrictions and community consensus. Violating your restrictions or community consensus instead of respecting them is only to get you blocked again. Appeal your restrictions if you want to get rid of them. Seek consensus if the community is against the type of edits you're intending to make. Heymid (contribs) 16:21, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

User talk:Heymid I agree. However the edit linked to by the OP is the Wrong Edit - not the one they meant to talk about.

The change you see there is a matter for dispute elsewhere, because someone is changing all these automatically, and with no other changes. The best way to make this kind of change is while changing something else more substantive, and indeed many editors are doing this. A clean-up task for the last 20%, 10% or 5% would then be a good idea, to ensure the change is complete.

Ironically this is the approach I have taken for the last decade or so, however some people get very upset by this.

All the best: Rich Farmbrough 10:46, 2 March 2021 (UTC).

Why would you even be bothered with making edits that won't have a visible effect on the page, let alone automatically? Try writing/editing content instead. Now, that's real usefulness. Heymid (contribs) 11:21, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

If you read my reply to you above, you will see that I did no such thing. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 21:20, 2 March 2021 (UTC).

Well, it seems the main problem here was that you went ahead and carried out systematic mass changes without the approval of community consensus, which is against your editing restrictions. Heymid (contribs) 21:39, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

Let me just add that this edit did, in fact, absolutely nothing to the rendered page for non-logged in readers, because you merely changed hidden categories. Until you start admitting to the issues that led to the block instead of attacking or blaming others, I suggest you remain blocked. Heymid (contribs) 12:24, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

It has been previously agreed that changing hidden categories does constitute an allowed edit, though there is no reason you should know this.

I would rather you not say that I am attacking or blaming others, unless you can back that up.

I would also rather you not imply that I am duplicitous. <Thanks for fixing that.>

All the best: Rich Farmbrough 13:36, 3 March 2021 (UTC).

It's rather odd for Rich to state if anyone actually believes that any of my edits have made the 'pedia worse rather than better when the block comes to simple accountability. – The Grid (talk) 16:26, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Why is it odd? There are edge cases where it is a good idea to block people who improving the project. I don't agree that this is one. Rather this is a case where the processes themselves have been brought into disrepute. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 10:56, 2 March 2021 (UTC).

The processes haven't been brought into disrepute, they work correctly. The problem is, you have created needless work for other people, because a canned summary like "cleaned up" and "fixed typo" is exactly what vandals do, and are impossible to distinguish from good faith edits without a human editor checking. Some of us do keep an eye on articles we have spent a long time working on, because we don't like people laughing at Wikipedia saying "Ha ha, they call this a Featured Article but look at these errors! Ha ha ha!" (in this case, the probable cause is the editor who improved it to FA in 2006 hasn't been around for 10 years and most people editing the article since don't know or care what FAC is) and all the time you make insignificant edits with canned edit summaries that don't provide any tangible benefit to the encyclopedia, you waste people's time. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 12:37, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

I'll take a practical example I saw on my watchlist here. The edit summary "clean up" is unhelpful and means I have to spend time working out a) what the change was and b) whether the article continues to meet the good article criteria after it. Your assertion that the flags help the reader identify the variety of English used is, in practice, incorrect, and does not prevent me from having to revert an edit with the summary "rv, using British English" every now and then, because human beings do not notice that. Spelling and grammar fixes are too sophisticated to be able to fixed by machine (or machine-like) tasks and activities.

"The Engvar family of tags are important to achieving this, and over 300,000 articles have an Engvar tag." - No, no, no - the way to achieve this is to welcome more editors who are good at fixing spelling and grammar. Here's an example.

So I agree with Worm's assertion that your edits that specifically led to this block are neutral and neither improve nor degrade the encyclopedia - they are simply a giant time sink. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 10:35, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

It's reasonable to say that the edit summary was unhelpful, I'm sure that I could have done better in that respect.

You claim that the tags are of no use to man nor bot. I respectfully disagree. I have always considered them primarily metadata, better placed at the end of the article with the "etceteras" - others who consider them instructions to editors prefer placing them at the top. That's fine.

There are many ways this could be used, for example a browser plug-in which switches the spelling dictionary, a gadget which changes the edit window background according to variety of English, an edit filter that warns if a spelling change has been made in the wrong direction.

It is, of course, fallacious to say that because you have sometimes to revert an engvar error, that the tags are of no use in that respect. You would need a proper control and to compare the rate of errors between the groups - this would not be a hard exercise.

Well done for welcoming users. I doubt, though, that any one "spotted" three occurrences of "to to" in a minute without using a search tool. They will have seen many false positives (Occitan literature is a true positive). Some terms have less false positives, "Cambidge" and "Oxfrod" for example - which I have fixed many occurrences of on many Wikipedias, what you would doubtless call a "machine like" activity. (But Ray Cambidge is a very real, and very correctly spelled person.) (Note: there are now 5 fresh mis-spellings of "Cambidge" on en:wiki and 7 of "Oxfrod", which I will not be able to fix for a month.)

I should note that I have welcomed thousands of new users, though I have not targeted them for their spelling abilities.

All the best: Rich Farmbrough 13:25, 3 March 2021 (UTC).

You are at the end

Rich Farmbrough, I beg of you to read this carefully. I have watched your situation for many years now. I have at many junctures felt you haven't only been treated unfairly, you have outright been abused. Worse, such abuse has been supported as right and proper. There were times when I was flat out amazed that you continued editing here. There is a slippery slope tendency on this project that when a person is under censure of some kind, the community feels at liberty to accuse that person of more and more malfeasance, whether justified or not, and it sticks. Your only choice, and I do mean ONLY choice, is to read the sanctions against you and follow each one to the absolute letter, very...VERY...broadly construed. If even for a nanosecond there is the slightest, tiniest little doubt about what a sanction means in a given scenario, you have to stop what you were planning on doing. Then, seek help to clarify...and do not do the edits you were planning without getting crystal clear clarification. If you never get clarification, you never do the edits. Regardless of the veracity of this block, regardless of whether your edits are justified or not, regardless of whether a huge number of great wrongs have been committed against you, you are at the end. You can't argue your way out of this. You can't justify your way out of this. You can't convince people with another rephrasing of your stance to show them that your way is the way forward. It doesn't matter if your edits are 100% perfect. It doesn't matter if the newest editor, making their first ever edit, would get applauded for doing the edit you are making which would cause controversy if you did it. It doesn't matter if you created the best featured article ever, from scratch, in one single edit. It isn't a question of whether your edits are proper or not. That has absolutely no meaning now with respect to you. There is no possible defense of your edits if there is the tiniest, slightest question about whether they conform to your sanctions or not. I will repeat; you are at the end. WTT noted above that an indefinite block is possibly a better solution. You've been on this project for almost 17 years. You're one of the most prolific editors on this project ever. You are on an extremely unstable cliff edge with the edge crumbling beneath your feet and a thousand meter drop below you. The slightest motion on your part will end your massive devotion to this project. There will be no coming back from an indefinite block. You have been given countless opportunities to comply with your sanctions. You can either flawlessly comply with your sanctions or end your career on this project. Choose wisely. --Hammersoft (talk) 13:12, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

You are absolutely right. I have considered this matter carefully over the years, and come to very similar conclusions. That is why I have the quote at the top of this page.

I have always hoped (and often believed) that we were supporting one another to produce an encyclopaedia, but - to extend your analogy - I know that there are enough people who would like to give me the extra shove into the abyss.

If I come back from this block and fix one typo, and get indeffed for it, it's still one typo fixed. The alternative is to be paralysed by fear and achieve not even that.

All the best: Rich Farmbrough 13:44, 3 March 2021 (UTC).

Rich, I think you're one of the best editors on Wikipedia, and on the handful of occasions I've spoken to you in the Pendrel's Oak over the years, it's always been a pleasant and fruitful conversation - indeed, just about everybody I know who's met you would agree you're a nice guy. I don't personally want to see you blocked, but I can't unblock you without a good consensus to do so. So I'm simply trying to play Devil's Advocate for a bit and explain why people are upset with some of the edits you made. It's true that metadata may be able to provide a user interface extension, but it doesn't imply it will or that everyone will use it over the current established method of looking at diffs of raw text - and frankly if you think the WMF is going to deliver that successfully, then you've got more confidence in them than I have. Unless you can appreciate why those advocating a block are doing so, I can't unblock you. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 13:58, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

I do appreciate why, and broadly there are three classes of issue that arise (please do tell me if you think I'm missing something):

1. Cases where I have got something wrong, or misjudged something. Example: the edit summary you mentioned. I will always fix this sort of thing as soon as I can.
2. Cases where someone is annoyed, perhaps understandably, because of something that is correct. This can be because they don't understand (e.g. the ISBN printed on a book can be wrong, or can be hard to read), because there is some WP:OWNership issue, or because of some side effect (like watch lists). These issues can be resolved with good will on both sides.
3. Cases where someone is simply looking for any "rule breaking" regardless of the effect - whether by me specifically, or anyone in particular. It's not easy to tell whether they see this as an end to a means, I. E. pushing me further towards that cliff edge for personal or project reasons, or they are just rules obsessed.

We are all human and make mistakes. I don't think mine are particularly egregious. In the above discussion, we have one editor quoting the wrong edit, one or two who don't understand how the editor interface works, and one who doesn't understand why {{Use Scottish English}} is exactly the same as {{Use Welsh English}} from the point of view of categorization. (They are both redirects … and {{Use English English}} is up for deletion as we speak.) Making these types of mistake in normal course of business might be considered minor, but to not be absolutely careful in these types of discussion does seem to me egregious. These canards will be repeated, indeed already have been, even if I refute them.

The history is now so deep and convoluted that it appears there is no unwinding it, and no-one really has the stomach for it, least of all me. I did manage to resolve the ArbCom stuff a few years back, but subsequent attempts to resolve issues met with poisoning-the-well attacks. Moreover this sort of stuff is boring and unproductive.

There is, it seems, no road back to normality in Wikiland.

All the best: Rich Farmbrough 16:26, 3 March 2021 (UTC).

A road back to normality

I've been lurking, and hadn't planned to jump in, but your last comment made me change my mind. I've been on both sides of this with you, at one time criticizing cosmetic edits done via AWB, and at another, editing a number of articles on your behalf by applying a series of bulleted wish-list items you had created here while under some other block, until someone linked me to WP:PROXYING and I had to stop. Others have said enough about the current situation, probably better than I could have, so I won't belabor that by adding my own. (I especially liked Worm's lovely extended metaphor, which made me want to run right over to Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser and immediately add WP:LAWNMOWER as a shortcut, but I've so far resisted the temptation.)

Anyway the point I wanted to make, in response to your comment about "no road back to normality" is that there is, and it's called WP:CLEANSTART. I'm sure you're aware of it, so I won't go into long explanations, but I urge you to consider it. It would also effectively deal with some of the valid concerns that Hammersoft wrote about in their heartfelt cri de coeur above regarding the taint—deserved, or not—which may grow after accusations or blocks seem to take on a momentum of their own regardless of their final disposition. This is exactly what a clean start is best at; all that will be washed away, and you get a, well, clean slate.

Curiously, and entirely coincidentally, I happened upon a brief essay called Quiet return, that has a few words to say about the topic of clean starts. I feel a clean start could really work for you, and I hope you consider it. I have some concerns if you are truly able to abandon some previously well-worn paths you've traveled, which is a must, if this is to work for you. Selfishly, I also want to be able to lurk, and see you "succeeding" in your new identity, but the whole point of a clean start is that if done properly, I will neither recognize you, nor be able to congratulate you on a job well done, and your future contributions to the encyclopedia. If you end up going that route, under your "Retired" template, a little addition saying that you will be looking into clean start, would be nice to see.

There have been times you've annoyed the crap out of me, but I'd still like to see you improving the encyclopedia, because I know you are capable of it. It's possible that that is no longer feasible under this username, and may have to be under another one, and if that works out for you, I will be as pleased as anyone. In sum, there is a road back to normality, perhaps a difficult road, so the question is, are you willing to take that road, and stick to it without wandering off into the weeds? I hope so. What more can I say, than, "all the best!" Mathglot (talk) 22:08, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Notes

• WP:CLEANSTART is not available to Rich. Quoting that policy, "A clean start is not permitted if there are active bans, blocks or sanctions". Rich is under sanctions, as shown at Wikipedia:Editing restrictions. --Hammersoft (talk) 22:23, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

  @Hammersoft: Yes, but that ends in a month, unless changed, doesn't it? Mathglot (talk) 22:36, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

• No. All the sanctions on Rich listed at Wikipedia:Editing restrictions are indefinite in nature. --Hammersoft (talk) 22:39, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

  Oh dear, I fear I've held out false hope, then; my apologies, Rich. Looks like at least some of the restrictions may be appealed a year after, which expired recently; not sure about the other. Mathglot (talk) 22:46, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

@Mathglot No worries, I was too busy to follow the discussion, but I have of course considered the four obvious identity change options. As well as a "secret restart" breaking the rules, I see no reason why my edits should not be under my own name. I have a limited amount of time and energy available for Wikipedia, and I don't intend to expend it concealing my identity, even under some kind of Alias Smith and Jones amnesty.

In much the same way I'm not enamoured with the idea of trying to get editing restrictions overturned. I have tried this before, and succeeded with the various ArbCom findings, but an attempt to get a clean slate met with poisoning the well reactions. To do it properly requires a huge amount of research, as everyone (including me) mis-remembers what happened, if they in fact ever knew. (Yesterday, for example, I discovered a highly salient fact about a recent incident, which I was hitherto unaware of.)

All the best: Rich Farmbrough 09:22, 5 March 2021 (UTC).

I'm glad you enjoyed the analogy, Mathglot. My quiet return essay is pragmatic in nature, and so as much as Rich isn't eligibly for a Clean Start, per Hammersoft - a quiet return only has one requirement.. don't get noticed. I'm afraid I wouldn't recommend it for Rich, for a couple of reasons. First, I don't believe he would want to let go of his 1.7 million edit history. Secondly, he would have to be un-noticeable and if Rich was able to be un-noticeable, he wouldn't need a fresh start. People have a lot of respect for Rich and are willing to give a lot of leeway, which is why he's still on this project despite many blocks, including a year long one, community editing restrictions and an Arbcom Case.

The way forward for Rich is twofold - deferring to others opinion and attention to detail. By the former I mean ensuring he has explicit consensus (including a diff link) for any group of changes he wants to make and for the latter, double checking each edit against his editing restrictions. Worm^TT(talk) 09:17, 4 March 2021 (UTC)

**** the 1.7 million edit history. I think that's used against me more than for me! If you look in the history of the appropriate stats page, you'll see that I elected to remain anonymous even at the "top" of that table for years - until someone accused my of trying to "conceal" my edits!

And as for being unnoticeable, that would involve leaving errors, great and small, unresolved, deliberately. Not doing that.

Moreover I have chosen to edit under my own name, I take responsibility for my edits. I have had my identity subpoenaed from the Foundation by some numpty solicitors - I doubt they "revealed" it.

As to the explicit consensus, I followed that ridiculous ER to the letter (and spirit), and yet the editor who instigated it still went on a fresh AN/I rant, involving dozens of editors from which a grand total of four(!) editors supported Barkeep's further restriction (apparently meant to help me) which requires an RFC with ten(!) or more editors, for, effectively, every edit I make! Yes I could maybe comply with such, but the burden would be intolerable, if not for me, certainly for almost any other editor. And as such I don't think I should go along with it.

All the best: Rich Farmbrough 09:22, 5 March 2021 (UTC).

I think your best bet at this stage is to focus on your own behavior instead of that of others. You may be partially right, but it isn't gonna help your case, I'm afraid. Heymid (contribs) 10:22, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Assuredly, being right has never been enough. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 10:39, 5 March 2021 (UTC).

Indefinite

Rich, I am sorry that you considered my statement that "something more indefinite might be appropriate" to be a veiled threat - you're right, they're not becoming. However, your statements above that you 'don't think you should go along with your editing restrictions' explicitly as well as the other statements that you have made in this section - I simply do not believe that you will abide by these restrictions after a month. As such, I'm altering your block to indefinite - that is "the indefinite period until I (or another administrator) have confidence that you will abide by your restrictions, or an alternative solution presents itself" Worm^TT(talk) 11:13, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

Let me just add that I would very much like to see you back on the editing field again. It would be a shame to lose your contribution forever. I hope you will come clean and address the issues that have gotten us to this very point. Heymid (contribs) 11:16, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

I would like to discuss this with you in more depth, but I simply do not have the time currently. All the best: Rich Farmbrough 11:35, 5 March 2021 (UTC).

Absolutely - I have not taken this decision lightly and would happily see you return to editing. Feel free to ping me when you do have sufficient time. Worm^TT(talk) 11:37, 5 March 2021 (UTC)

And Rich, if and when you have that tete-a-tete with WTT, if three doesn't spoil the party, then ping me, too. Cheers, Mathglot (talk) 09:12, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

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Wikidata weekly summary #460

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • New request for comments: Signed Statements (T138708)

• Events
  • Ongoing: 30 Lexic-o-days, events and projects around lexicographical data, continues until April 14th. (full schedule, details and links here)
    • March 22: Bug triage hour about Lexemes with Lydia Pintscher
    • March 23: SPARQL querying for Lexemes with Vigneron
    • March 24: Open discussion in French about Lexemes
    • March 25: Documentation Q&A with Dan Shick
    • March 27: Lingua Libre, how you can record words in your language and use them on Wikidata, with Poslovitch
  • Upcoming: The next Wikibase live session is 16:00 UTC on Thursday 25 March 2021 (Add to calendar). This month we will have a team member from Enslaved.org talk to us briefly about how they are using Linked Open Data (LOD) with the help of Wikibase (due of technical challenges they couldn't join us last time). Everyone is welcome to attend the call.
  • Upcoming: The Arctic Knot Wikimedia Language Conference is taking place remotely on June 24-25, and focusing on indigenous and underrepresented languages on the Wikimedia projects. The call for submissions is now open until April 15th, if you want to present something related to Wikidata and languages, feel free to apply.
  • Upcoming: Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call: Members of the EthicsLD Group will be leading a discussion on ethics in linked data, Tuesday, March 23rd.[2]
  • Upcoming: LIVE Wikidata editing #37 - YouTube, Facebook, March 27
  • Upcoming: Online Wikidata meetup in Swedish #55, March 28

• Press, articles, blog posts, videos
  • Papers
    • Intercessory Rote Prayer, Life Longevity and the Mortality of Roman Catholic Bishops: An Exploratory Study (Using Wikidata to study whether prayers have an effect)
  • Videos
    • Wikidata Taiwan @ g0v tw hackath43n - Youtube
    • Live editing lexemes YouTube, Facebook
    • Live editing lexemes (in French) by VIGNERON - YouTube
    • Wikidata international women's rights day SPARQL queries (in French) by VIGNERON - YouTube
    • Introduction to Wikidata by Peteforsyth - YouTube

• Tool of the week
  • Sparql_rc is a recent changes feed that only shows you changes in an area of Wikidata you care about. It now also supports Lexemes.

• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Wikidata Lexeme Forms now supports Portuguese nouns
    • masculine
    • feminine
  • erinnerungshort.de/kap/ is a data and photo research project and map visualization tool with federated license query from Structured Commons, by Raymond and Elya.
  • ~7500 person items have been enriched with the new property GEPRIS person ID (P4872), imported from a high quality dataset from the Q707283.

• Did you know?
  • Newest properties:
    • General datatypes: pHash checksum, Jyutping transliteration, Yale romanization, Cantonese Pinyin, Cantonese Transliteration Scheme transliteration, Gedong Kirtya Classification, has graphical element
    • External identifiers: TaDiRAH ID, AWB lemma ID, Latin Place Names ID, Enslaved person ID, MyMusic artist ID, Ávvir topic ID, Dark Horse creator ID, ComiXology publisher ID, Inforegister ID, SVKKL authority ID, BiographySampo person ID, PatER ID, Cartigli di Bologna ID, Universal Music France artist ID, Svoya Igra television player ID, Washington Place Names ID, Storiaememoriadibologna ID, Oxford African American Studies Center ID, LFH staff ID, Cephalopod Ontology entity ID, Archives West finding aid ID, Das wissenschaftliche Bibellexikon im Internet ID, Keratsini-Drapetsona libraries' catalogue authority ID, NFL.com ID (new scheme), Bavarian Monument Map object ID (architectural monument), MeSH descriptor/qualifier ID, MeSH qualifier ID, Bavarian Monument Map Object-ID (ground monument), temples.ru ID
  • New property proposals to review:
    • General datatypes: zugeschrieben, IMDb rating, death rate, trade union membership rate, identifier shared with lexeme, introduced on, instances are former instances of, presentation template, voted on by, has supplier, キロ程
    • External identifiers: Slovník českých filosofů ID, Encyklopedie migrace ID, Encyclopedia of Migration ID, Tacoma Local History & Biography Index ID, Tacoma-Pierce County Buildings Index ID, Tacoma-Pierce County Obituary Index ID, Rombase ID, Stalker author ID, ODLIS ID, Enslaved place ID, CAOI person ID, IBSF-Wettbewerbs-ID, FranceArchives agent ID, Pango lineage code, Ministry of Education New Zealand school ID, Place Names NI ID, NMRShiftDB Structure ID, Modernist Commons ID, Megale Kypriake Enkyklopaideia ID, Encyclopédie de l’humanisme méditerranéen ID, Sociologické encyklopedie ID, Government of Canada Core Subject Thesaurus ID, Thésaurus des sujets de base du gouvernement du Canada ID, Routes & Places ID, Rekhta Author ID, Rekhta Book ID, National Database of Laws and Regulations ID, Humanitāro zinātņu virtuālā enciklopēdija person ID, Humanitāro zinātņu virtuālā enciklopēdija concept ID
  • Query examples:
    • Railway junctions in Scotland (Source)
    • Maps of Y-shaped subway lines (Source)
    • Map of the hometown of Real Sociedad / Athletic Club players (Source)
    • Count of type of things with IIIF links known to Wikidata (Source)
    • Successful candidates during 2016 Kerala Legislative Assembly in each constituencies (Source)
    • COVID-19 external Identifier URLs in Wikidata (Source)
    • Public spaces whose names are of women (Source)
    • Place of birth of females with biography articles on Basque Wikipedia (Source)
    • Map of places in iNaturalist (Source)
    • Number of elements of scientists by nationality (Source)

• Development
  • Work on the first version of the Query Builder is nearing its end. Doing remaining work on querying for quantities, dates and ranges as well as polishing and bug fixing.
  • Made Cognate work correctly for redirects on Wiktionary (phab:T165061)
  • Fixed an issue where the termbox on Item pages used the wrong list of languages on the mobile version (phab:T275611)
  • Cleaned up deleted Items from the term store database table (phab:T263730)
  • Got feedback on the initial click-dummies for checking Wikidata's data against other databases to find mismatches

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

• Monthly Tasks
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
  • Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
  • Contribute to a Showcase item.
  • Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
  • Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
  • Help write the next summary!

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Mohammed Sadat (WMDE) 18:16, 22 March 2021 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:We Start Fires albums

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Wikidata weekly summary #461

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • Closed request for adminship: Minorax, welcome onboard!

• Events
  • Ongoing: 30 Lexic-o-days, events and projects around lexicographical data, continues until April 14th. (full schedule, details and links here)
    • March 30: Live SPARQL queries about Lexemes in French by Vigneron
    • March 30: Abstract Wikipedia & Lexemes Q&A with Denny Vrandečić
    • April 1: Documentation Q&A with Dan Shick
    • April 5-11: Climate Lexeme Week
    • April 5: Abstract Wikipedia & Lexemes Q&A with Denny Vrandečić
  • Upcoming: LIVE Wikidata editing #38 - YouTube, Facebook, April 3
  • Upcoming: Online Wikidata meetup in Swedish #56, April 4
  • Upcoming: WikiCommons metadata analysis tool is intended to be developed at the online hackathon at hack.glam.opendata.ch, 16-17 April 2021

• Press, articles, blog posts, videos
  • Blogs
    • Dataroundtripping Wikidata - Wikicommons - Runestones pictures
  • Papers
    • FAIR and open multilingual clinical trials in Wikidata and Wikipedia
    • Painel de informação sobre a COVID-19: consultas SPARQL na Wikidata (Portuguese)
  • Videos
    • Live Wikidata editing #37 - YouTube, Facebook
    • Live SPARQL queries on Lexemes by Vigneron (in English): on Youtube

• Tool of the week
  • d:User:Nikki/LexemeEntitySuggester.js userscript is a proper entity suggester that gives a fixed set of properties for various languages.

• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • Sitelinks links for two new Wikipedias can be entered: Atayal Wikipedia (Q105723660) and Seediq Wikipedia (Q105975521)

• Did you know?
  • Newest properties:
    • General datatypes: does not have cause, external georeferencing URL
    • External identifiers: Discord server numeric ID, France24 topic ID (French), France24 topic ID (English), France24 topic ID (Spanish), France24 topic ID (Arabic), PeriodO period ID, MHDBDB lemma ID, Portrait Archive ID, Porcelana Brasil ID, Slovník českých filosofů ID, Hymenoptera Anatomy Ontology ID, Encyclopedia of French Cultural Heritage in North America ID, MWB lemma ID, Encyclopedia of Migration ID, Ministry of Education New Zealand school ID, Encyklopedie migrace ID, Tacoma-Pierce County Obituary Index ID, Encyclopedia of Mediterranean Humanism ID, Modernist Commons ID, Rombase ID (English), Filmitalia film ID, CNA topic ID, Fortalezas.org ID
  • New property proposals to review:
    • General datatypes: Ottoman Association ID, url text, audio transcription 2, OFDb person ID, won sets, Number of stitches
    • External identifiers: Biblio.com ID, Czech Encyclopedia of Theater identifiers (Czech and German), Identifiant des Collections du Louvre, Verified Handles VHID, Michigan State University Library Record Number, Washington Flora Checklist ID, Washington Flora Checklist species ID, Washington Rare Plant Field Guide ID, KATOTTH identifier, Viasona ID, Musikasten ID, Discover the networks, GCD publisher ID, Image Comics creator ID, BLPL ID, MnM ID, Arca author ID, Editorial Freelancers Association member ID, IFCVPF ID, American University of Beirut's Libraries Title ID, Dicionário Histórico-Biográfico Brasileiro ID, Burke Herbarium Image Collection ID, USCG MIC ID, Berlin Bezirkslexika identifiers, Burke Herbarium Image Collection contributor ID, Brapci author ID, ÖCV Biolex ID, OregonFlora taxon ID, Oregon Flora Image Project ID
  • Deleted properties:
  • Query examples:
    • Donald P. Bellisario credits as screenwriter or director
    • Interwiki table from P6720, with end date for prefixes that are no longer in use (source)
    • Index map of Ordnance Survey Old Series preparatory drawings, with georeferencer links (source)
    • Listed buildings in Wales that would be lost if the sea level rose by 70 metres (source)
    • Music releases with incomplete track lists, showing diff count (Source)
    • Date and place of birth of female musicians in Nigeria (Source)
    • Scholarly articles on multilingualism and bilingualism (Source)
    • Things in Czechia which changed coordinate location at some point (Source)
    • Images about women programmers (Source)
    • UK railway stations connected from Topsham railway station (Source)
    • Most awarded person affiliated with the Technical University of Denmark (Source)
  • Newest database reports: current TV seasons

• Development
  • The dev team spent the last week prototyping a few things to learn if some things would be feasible/a good idea. Among other things we tried building a small tool to connect Senses to Items, looked into the different types of ontology issues that can be found on Wikidata and checked what using a document store for data storage would look like.
  • Note: from March 29th until April 12th, Mohammed Sadat (WMDE) is not available to answer messages. If you have any requests for the development team, please ask on Contact the development team. For any emergency, you can contact Lea Lacroix (WMDE). Because of Easter holidays in Germany, the upcoming newsletter will be issued one day later, on April 6th.

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here. If you want to help, you can also have a look at the tasks needing a volunteer.

• Monthly Tasks
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
  • Comment on property proposals: all open proposals
  • Suggested and open tasks!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item.
  • Help translate or proofread the interface and documentation pages, in your own language!
  • Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
  • Help write the next summary!

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 13:50, 29 March 2021 (UTC)