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Energy resource facilities in the United States

Please see my proposal to upmerge Category: Energy resource facilities in the United States to Category: Energy infrastructure in the United States Hugo999 (talk) 11:14, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

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AWB module for date format alignment

Rich,

I would like to incorporate code into dmy code and mdy code to insert '{{use dmy dates}}' to signal that the article has been processed. Can you help?

More generally, I would appreciate any advice you could give in updating same. Thanks, -- Ohconfucius ^{ping / poke} 05:08, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes I have some code for this. I'll try and dig it out. Rich Farmbrough, 14:21, 11 October 2012 (UTC).

FYI, code I used most recently is here. -- Ohconfucius ^{ping / poke} 15:15, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Barnstar of Diplomacy
	I hereby award you an honorary degree (in Authoritarianism) in recognition for your long term contributions to Wikipedia,you are making a difference in the world by serving the world with information....Please continue the hard work ! User:Elianamwiha * Elianamwiha 08:18, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Rich Farmbrough, 17:13, 11 October 2012 (UTC).

Chicago article

I believe you put up a reference tag on the article for Chicago (band) in February, 2010. I cleaned it up some and perhaps you want to look in to see if the tag can be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wemonk (talk • contribs) 18:22, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

This is Exxolon. I suspect the other is someone else too. My bot merely dated the tags. However they can be removed at any editor's discretion. Rich Farmbrough, 21:23, 13 October 2012 (UTC).

Also reference tag for April 2008 appears to be yours as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wemonk (talk • contribs) 18:26, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Ref web

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Digimon Fusion characters

Hi Rich; I fixed up all ten of the double redirects that you found - but in four cases I didn't use the section name that you requested, because it doesn't exist. Hopefully I picked the correct ones in replacement - if any were wrong, please reopen the request(s). --Redrose64 (talk) 20:18, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Really they should not be protected, then the bots would take care of it. Rich Farmbrough, 21:02, 15 October 2012 (UTC).

Maintenance counts

Hi, Rich! Hope you are doing fine.

Just wanted to let you know that there are over 1,500 articles in this category, yet this progress report starts from November, not October. I tried to fix it, but quickly got lost in the forest of template calls, so I'm passing this task into your capable hands :) (hoping you even care about this any more). Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 12, 2012; 18:05 (UTC)

Yes, the progress box template goes back 6 years (extended from 5 years). Unfortunately, this template, like several hundred others I wrote, requires admin access to edit. Rich Farmbrough, 21:10, 12 October 2012 (UTC).

 Fixed Rich Farmbrough, 21:05, 15 October 2012 (UTC).

Thank you, sir!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); October 16, 2012; 19:25 (UTC)

meta:Wikimedia Medicine

Thank you for your interest in meta:Wikimedia Medicine. We hope to create a non profit corporation to promote the aims of the Wikimedia Movement within the topic domain of medicine. This means we plan to promote the creation and release of "health care information in all languages" under an open license. This will be done primarily via speaking and collaborating with both individuals and organizations who share our goal. We are working on a number of collaborations already and are open to more ideas. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) (if I write on your page reply on mine) 09:44, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

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An article you worked on has been nominated for deletion

MG Services has been nomiated for deletion. If you would like to comment on the discussion, it is located at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/MG Services ColtsScore (talk) 18:31, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

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Template:Albums category

Hi Rich. I noticed you recently edited Template:Albums category. If you have time, do you think you might be able to have a look at the "extra space" issue identified on the template's talk page? Thanks. DH85868993 (talk) 23:27, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Sure. Rich Farmbrough, 00:23, 20 October 2012 (UTC).

Thanks. DH85868993 (talk) 03:36, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Please help improve Comparison of United States presidential candidates, 2012

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikilogin123 (talk • contribs) 16:19:23 October 2012 (UTC)

over/underlinking

Could you take a look at http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Linking#What_generally_should_not_be_linked_--_can_we_bring_this_to_closure.3F

The "one link" rule/enforcement has gotten out of hand, I'm trying to get something closer to rationality. You seem to be one of the people with a "middle ground" view, and I'd appreciate any refinements to the proposal. If teh proposed draft replacement at the top of the page is something you'd support, I'd appreciate it if you could leave a note. Thanks Boundlessly (talk) 21:48, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

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An award from us (and the signpost :-) )

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		This month the Signpost said that the Gibraltar project was a " ludicrously productive GLAM project". Thank you for helping us, Rich, with that achievement. We have got behind with the barnstars so this is one to say thank you for helping. Gibraltarpedia.org is now showing the list of about 100 plaques - do take a look and see the languages we will be featuring.Victuallers (talk) 22:13, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Image use in WP

Hi Rich, I was wondering if you could help me. I've been running a couple of workshops in London for people who've given us money and are also willing to give us some time, and I think I've established that people are willing to donate an afternoon to WP, but not necessarily more. That might still be worthwhile if we can give them something where 5 minutes of setup can get them doing a couple of hours useful work. And for people who don't fancy adding referenced material the biggest and quickest wow is to add a picture to an article that doesn't have one. Every time I get a workshop to choose which image to use to illustrate an article everyone livens up and is happy to make a call.

But manually hunting for articles without images is time consuming. So I was wondering if you could create a list here or on Commons of wikipedia articles of English villages or anything with a UK geocode that don't have an image in the article, then we can search Commons and because of the Geograph more often than not add an image.

Alternatively a list on Commons of En Wiki articles that don't have an image but have an intrawiki link to an article in a different language that does have an image. ϢereSpielChequers 21:30, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Check random articles in Categories of Category:England geography stubs such as Great Smeaton, Kilby Bridge. Perhaps ask people attending which county they come from and then find a place and add the map based on it's coordinated. Regards, Sun Creator^(talk) 22:31, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Yep, but many of them have images already. I'm looking to get lists of articles which lack images. ϢereSpielChequers 22:58, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm creating an ad-hoc list now. Rich Farmbrough, 01:43, 21 October 2012 (UTC).

User:Rich Farmbrough/temp 110 Rich Farmbrough, 02:08, 21 October 2012 (UTC).

That's brilliant - I'll go and organise another workshop! Mind you there are only about 1500, and though that will certainly keep me going a while, I wonder if in future it will be possible to find more? For example Towns and villages in county etc without an image? ϢereSpielChequers 14:01, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes there's a deeper problem here, User:Dthomsen8 has been working on it, and got me involved at Wikimania. Unfortunately my hands are somewhat tied. Rich Farmbrough, 15:25, 21 October 2012 (UTC).

Thanks for that, especially if that was a sufficiently useful list to get you close to dangerous territory. Yes I'll talk to Dthomsen, alternatively would you be able to produce such lists on Commons as opposed to here? There is some logic to that - for starters if we use the intrawiki route then this could be used to add images to whatever language people are comfortable with. I just need lists of Interwiki connected clusters where one or more articles have an image from commons and one or more has no images. ϢereSpielChequers 15:18, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

T'library

Hi Rich. I saw this and wondered if you knew about this. I stumbled over the latter by accident and, although it risks getting outdated, it is a phenomenal resource. (A couple of people have updated it but I don't think it gets actively tended.) Best wishes DBaK (talk) 15:06, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Yes the resource available in total is huge. I have access to various "restricted" collections, and some little skill, I like to think, in finding public versions of other work. Nonetheless scientific research will be very much easier when the UK and EU open research priorities come into play. Rich Farmbrough, 17:38, 25 October 2012 (UTC).

No inline citation tag

Can you peek at James W. Booth and Charles F. Tabor and Roswell A. Parmenter and Isaac V. Baker Jr. and help decide whether the {{no footnotes|date=October 2012}} tag should be in the article or not. I have been adding them, then removing them as I switch to in-line citations. The creator of the articles has been removing infoboxes and reverting the inline citations as in Alfred Wagstaff Jr. I remove the tag when I change the general references to inline citations so that each fact has a reference, but I need them so I know which ones to go back to later. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 15:29, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Well I think that is tangential to any real issues between the two editors. You need to resolve these issues not worry about the {{No footnotes}} template. (Were it just the template I would say simply keep a list of the articles to enable productivity in place of strife.) There are a few issues that I would draw to your attention, though I expect you are both familiar with them:

1. General references are good.
2. There is no need to source every single fact if there is a clear attribution.
3. Inline references are also good, and can be added to an article with general references.
4. Wikipedia prefers articles to be based on multiple sources, where possible

Rich Farmbrough, 20:27, 25 October 2012 (UTC).

Merge discussion for Kuliglig

An article that you have been involved in editing, Kuliglig , has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Image2012 (talk) 13:53, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

I think it would be better to do so. Image2012 (talk) 13:53, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Cite_quick TfD result was Keep, in use

Unlike the prior TfD for Template:Fcite, the result for Template:Cite_quick, on 21 October was "Keep" with no restrictions (none of the keep-don't-use nonsense), and other users have put {cite_quick} in articles. I restored it into "Julian Assange" to reduce edit-preview from 39 to 8 seconds! If I had not studied the template-timing issues, I would not even believe it can reformat in 8 seconds now (slow templates using 32 seconds can drag to 39-60 on a busy server). I had to use {cite_quick} to rescue mega-article "Barack Obama" which crashed half-page, often as fatal timeout with wp:Wikimedia Foundation error, and that rescue had triggered the latest TfD now stopped. Other people saw the rapid speed, and refused deletion of {cite_quick}. Hostile opponent User:Br'er Rabbit (aka fictional "Jack Merridew") was blocked 48h for edit-war on {Civility}, then sock-puppet SP/I led to indef-block, and many editors imposed community ban. Lua script-writer, opponent User:Uncle_G (contribs) disappeared 11 September 2012, and I had to finish the Lua-based cite templates on test2.wiki, which are even faster than {cite_quick}. -Wikid77 (talk) 16:56, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

Good, I'm sure the Lua version will resolve many problems. I am not surprised at all at the efficiency gains. You should know, by the way, that Br'er rabbit is also a fictional character. Rich Farmbrough, 19:00, 27 October 2012 (UTC).

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Hi, I sent you a reply some days ago, please check you wiki-mail. Thank you! Elitre (talk) 19:23, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK

Rich,

Would you like to mosey over to DYK Right About Here and add to the conversation inspired by you? Personally, I'm getting a little sick of "...over on Jimbo Wales' page..." Bring it home to us, Rich. — Maile (talk) 01:19, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Have done. :). Rich Farmbrough, 01:51, 28 October 2012 (UTC).

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Roblox rustman89 and rustman65 and rustman56

I note your comment on my talk page. With respect, I suggest that the other edits made at the same time by this editor suggest that your assessment of this edit is at least questionable. --Anthony Bradbury^"talk" 12:24, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Help to get a copy of Comparison of United States presidential candidates, 2012

Please help get at least the latest copy of this article before it was deleted: Comparison of United States presidential candidates, 2012 It was a lot of work. Thanks.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikilogin123 (talk • contribs) 06:22, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

I suggest you ask at WP:REFUND. All the best, Rich Farmbrough, 06:24, 29 October 2012 (UTC).

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