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Archive catch up is complete

And a ton of completely unnecessary work, but I guess it made someone somewhere happy. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 00:17, 5 June 2014 (UTC).

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Interview Request on Wikimedia Privacy Policy Changes

Hi Rich,

My name's Anthony, and I'm Social Media Editor for IBTMedia. I'm doing a story about the big announcement re: Privacy Policy changes that are rolling out tomorrow, and I'd love to talk to you. Would you email me at a.smith[at]ibtimes.com? Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.66.114.182 (talk • contribs) c. 15:46, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Navaho language

The section "Language status" has a disputed note on it that dates back to January 2013. It refers one to the talk page, which I'm guessing is referring to the section "Is the language in decline, or incline?" The discussion is only two comments, a question by an ip address and a response by Ish ishwar who is still active on Wikipedia. The latter appears to me to settle the "dispute" by providing an adequate clarification. Additionally, it would appear the introduction has been edited to delete the contradiction. Is there any way to resolve this and delete the tag? It seems to me that leaving the tag for so long on the article undermines not only its integrity but the credibility of Wikipedia as a whole. Cheers! (glad the # of drama free days is approaching 2 months) --Beth Wellington (talk) 20:24, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Yes, boldly remove it. I have done so. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 22:06, 5 June 2014 (UTC).

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Category:Integers tagging

I appreciate the work, but weren't you "topic"-banned from making bot-like edits? — Arthur Rubin (talk) 21:47, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

No, I'm "topic-banned" from making automated edits, or using any "automation tool". To be extra nasty anything that looks automated counts. People (well one person - guess who?) has tried to make out that multiple manual edits are automated, and got laughed out of court, fortunately. Fixing those integers would have taken maybe 8-10 minutes with AWB rather than 3 hours and 4 minutes. But I suffer willingly for my beliefs. Actually I might not have started, had I realised how many needed fixing, but there were only two out of order,so it looked almost trivial, and I like to finish a job once I've started. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 00:35, 11 June 2014 (UTC).

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Miss Multiverse page deleted

Greetings Rich, you have a very nice wikipedia page and profile... congrats!!!

I have a frustrating issue here... I have created the page Miss Multiverse, it was deleted once before about a year ago, i don´t understand why if it has all the right references, no use of promotion, just facts, there are even winners of miss universe that have participated in Miss Multiverse whom have profiles on wikipedia... and its still deleted as if this beauty pageant does not exist.

There are many smaller beauty pageants listed on wikipedia, we are just not able to comprehend why this is happening, it almost feels as if enthusiasts or supporters of other pageants are deleting this one, it takes time to learn how to use wikipedia and frustrating to see someone just come and delete it.

I will appreciate your help enormously, if you would kindly take a look and figure out a solution.

Best regards,

Jose Cuello (talk) 14:17, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

The references need to be independent. Since most of them are fairly recent it may be that Miss Multiverse has become notable since the last deletion. If the pageant is covered in Elissa Stein (2006). Beauty Queen: Here She Comes. Chronicle Books. ISBN 978-0-8118-4864-0. that may help. Remember there are an estimated 700,000 pageants every year, we only expect to cover the notable ones. See WP:NOTABLE for more information. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 18:53, 13 June 2014 (UTC).

Oh, I wonder if it should be at Miss & Mrs Multiverse. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 18:54, 13 June 2014 (UTC).

After two years...

This happened two years ago! -- Magioladitis (talk) 23:25, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Oh those Indian villages! https://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Gudlavalleru&diff=next&oldid=313799413 ... 5 years... All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 00:05, 14 June 2014 (UTC).

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Daily Fail

I appreciate the content you added to the 2014 FIFA World Cup Group D page, but can you please avoid using the Daily Mail Fail as a source in future. That "newspaper" is the worst kind of rag imaginable, and when there are plenty of other options available, I think we should use them. – PeeJay 19:06, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

@PeeJay2K3: It is a reliable source if you are talking about some event. It shall be avoided for writing biographies but not more when you have got additional references. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 23:24, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

(ec) I symapthiɀe with your concerns, we can, however, very well rely on the Mail as a source for this item. Were the story political or even crime I might have misgivings. To avoid the Mail for sport stories because we are concerned with the quality of their reporting on "serious" issues, or their editorial stance would be to fall into a different kind of trap. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 23:28, 15 June 2014 (UTC).

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Template:US Census geography

Hi Rich, I found Template:US Census geography of yours. Was this ever used? Do you think it should be deleted? I've looking over the census website and while I don't think there's some of rhyme or reason there, I wonder if we work out Template:USCensus-2010CA into something usable (maybe Template:USCensus. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:10, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Ricky. The template was built when I thought that I would be working on the US 2010 Census. The idea was to use it to set up articles, and allow people to fuss over the exact wording for a few months, then subst: it out. Since various obstacles were strewn in my path, this didn't happen at the time. The template still has some applicability for translation of articles, though. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 18:06, 18 June 2014 (UTC).

Duplicate article

Re your RM, thanks. Talk:A.A.N.M & V.V.R.S.R Polytechnic and Talk:Gudlavalleru Engineering College is the same place yes? Shouldn't it be merged into the older article? In ictu oculi (talk) 01:42, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

I don't think so. "It was established in 1981 by the late Adusumilli Aswardha Narayana Murthy and Valluripalli Venkata Rama Seshadri Rao who also established Gudlavalleru Engineering College." - Gudlavalleru also treats the two as distinct. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 02:33, 19 June 2014 (UTC).

Unfortunately I just added that line before I questioned whether they were the same place... I'm not a reliable source. :) In ictu oculi (talk) 04:03, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Oh, then I guess we need to find a list. India is hard. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 15:47, 19 June 2014 (UTC).

I ofund a list, and added links. Seems like they are distinct. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 10:55, 20 June 2014 (UTC).

Great thanks

	The Handyman Award
	For once again fixing a problem at WP:CP that was flummoxing me. Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:45, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

To be honest, it's not necessarily a sign of great skill to fix a problem that is flummoxing me. I'm a bit of a technological wizard for my demo, but alas that doesn't mean much in the world of people who actually know such stuff. :) However, I still stand in admiration of your skill. :D And I'm just very grateful that you take the time to help out. Thanks much for knowing how to do things and being willing to do them for other people. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 11:46, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2014 April 22#Category:Philatelic journals

Hi Rich, I'm surprised by your close here. Despite your conclusion that there is a broad consensus to rename, you closed "no consensus", meaning that the current situation, which is against consensus, will be maintained. There are clear, separate, category trees for academic journals and magazines, both of which are subordinate to Category:Periodicals. The latter is a "top" category, only containing categories by type (audio periodicals, newspapers, almanacs, etc), not by interest, so "Philatelic periodicals" is obviously an incorrect rename target. I would appreciate if you could have a second look at this discussion, because the current situation is highly undesirable. Thanks! --Randykitty (talk) 06:43, 22 June 2014 (UTC)

I have had a second, and even a third look. I think this was a difficult close, as evidenced by the fact that the discussion remained open for so long.

I understand your argument that journals and magazines are two different types of periodical, and indeed the distinction drawn in academia (this is something I have looked at previously). Nonetheless all three terms "periodical", "magazine" and "journal" can be used correctly to describe the members of the category. The only terms relevant to the discussion that cannot are compound terms such as "trade magazine", "professional magazine" and "academic journal". While these were used to attempt to draw the strands of serial publications apart, terms like "trade journal" and the many examples of the use of the word "journal" by non-academic serials, and indeed the existence of grey areas - law reports, proceedings, Hansard and so forth, not to mention predatory journals, and the distinction between external reviewers and board review, entangles the plait once again.

There is no reader-facing consensus that I am aware of on Wikipedia on the term "journal" without "academic" prefixed being interpreted as to mean peer reviewed. Indeed {{Infobox journal}} has a default link name of "Journal homepage" - used for example on the Chemical Abstracts page.

The question of existing category structures has some force, but not much where these can't be shown to have arisen from consensus - effectively it is an OTHERSTUFFEXISTS type of argument.

In summary I would make three points:

• Cogent but not compelling arguments were made for two possible alternative names.
• The current situation might be described as "not perfect" or "slightly irritating" but to describe it as "highly undesirable" seems a stretch, no harm from this naming has been demonstrated.
• I am satisfied with my close. There is no prejudice against re-listing, but it would probably be useful to establish a wider consensus on the vocabulary first. For example "Serials" is a more appropriate top level category from a library science perspective.

All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 17:07, 22 June 2014 (UTC).

Wikidata weekly summary #114

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Thank You

Thank You! J.Steinbock

You are welcome. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 18:06, 18 June 2014 (UTC).

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Wikidata weekly summary #115

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AB

Can you filter a abusive edit summary? I will link here. OccultZone (Talk • Contributions • Log) 16:47, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

I'll have a look, better to email me though. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 19:49, 29 June 2014 (UTC).

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Historic Ferris Houses (in Mariemont, OH)

I just spent 2-3 hours researching and changing the entries for these two structures:

• http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Eliphalet_Ferris_House
• http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Joseph_Ferris_House

I found added a couple of sources for them (which is where I first learned of the two buildings). You were the last person to take an interest in these pages, so I wanted to both alert you to my recent edits and ask a key question.

Question: I am dying to know how you found this link from the Library of Congress: http://lcweb2.loc.gov/pnp/habshaer/oh/oh0300/oh0340/data/oh0340data.pdf

There is more information in the parent directory, and many photos, including of the interior. I am too tired to link all the photos in or even refer to them. It was hard enough dealing with the varying build dates I found for the first building. I should go visit the building!

I am hoping there is a similar entry for the second building. Somewhere I got the date 1807 for the second building. I see that date comes up here:

http://aeqai.com/main/2014/03/the-eisele-gallery-of-fine-art-a-cincinnati-tradition/

I don't know if the National Register is incorrect. I was about to mention that it is now the Antique restoration business of Mr. Eisele, but like I said, I'm exhausted from the edits I already made...

Incidentally, the reason I was looking this all up is because I was dismayed that the Wikipedia Village of Mariemont has no history section at all! The Cincinnati page is horrible: http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/History_of_Cincinnati. But the History of Cleveland is not too bad: http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/History_of_Cleveland. I would love to help get the Cincinnati page up to speed, but don't even know where to begin. You'd think some historian from the area would take charge!

David Tornheim (talk) 08:44, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Hi David, I forget how I found that document, but search gives this similar directory for Joseph Ferris House. I was looking at a guy called Richard Henry Dana III that day, who was a classmate of James Russell Lowell. It is a shame more local historians don't get involved in Wikipedia, and, from the US, Civil War enthusiasts. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 13:16, 29 June 2014 (UTC).

• [1] may be useful if you are anywhere near Cincinnati and Hamilton County Public Library. For the "Historic Spots in Greater Cincinnati" article series. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 14:04, 29 June 2014 (UTC).
  14:04, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks so much for the quick response. I'll take a look. I did notice your talk entry on the 1st house saying:

It is not clear if this was Richard Henry Dana III, or another of a similar name. Rich Farmbrough, 17:02, 4 August 2012 (UTC).

I may try to resolve this question if I do more research on the two buildings and find anything conclusive. I wasn't sure where you found information that made this uncertain. Because they both have similar names, right? And both lived in Mariemont during the time of the additional work on the building?David Tornheim (talk) 18:45, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

If Richard the Third lived in Mariemont and he is a good candidate for the role, we have first name, last name and initial, location, date. Unfortunately we also have his son Richard Henry Dana IV, Richard Henry Dana V was born in 1912 so can probably be discounted. For a family tree see http://www.nps.gov/long/historyculture/upload/EED%20Finding%20Aid.pdf pages 20-23. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 20:40, 29 June 2014 (UTC).

Thanks for the updates on the Joseph Ferris house and adding the Historic Survey card like you did for the other Ferris building. I noticed that like the first building the Joseph Ferris house has different erection dates. The date on the card you supplied is 1820, as I believe was the date from NPS. However, the article I showed above says:

He chose an historic building in Fairfax built by Joseph Ferris in 1807 as his headquarters. Taking ten years to build it, Ferris chose the Greek and Federal revival architectural styles which remain today.

It's hard for me to tell which information is more reliable. The card sites as its source "an article of Frank Y. Grayson 'Historic Spots in Greater Cincinnati', which was published in the Cincinnati Times Star in 1933." I'm not sure whether it is better to give the competing sources like I did for the Eliphalet Ferris House, or trust that the professional surveyor did his work correctly and that new information has not been uncovered that gives a better date. Also, I'm not sure if the traditional erection date is the date building started or ended. If it is the date it was completed, the 1820 seems basically consistent. I'm on the fence about whether to add the other date to the main text, but I do plan to add the article which does talk about the building. David Tornheim (talk) 00:12, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

The Great American Wiknic and other events in July

I am pleased to announce our fourth annual picnic, the Great American Wiknic, will take place at Meridian Hill Park in Washington, D.C. on Sunday, July 13 from 1 to 5 PM (rain date: July 20). We will be hanging out by the statue of Dante Alighieri, a statue that was donated to the park in 1921 as a tribute to Italian Americans. Read more about the statue on Wikipedia. If you would like to sign up for the picnic, you can do so here. When signing up, say what you’re going to bring!

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What else is going on in July? We have the American Chemical Society Edit-a-Thon on Saturday, July 12, dedicated to notable chemists, and our monthly WikiSalon on Wednesday, July 16.

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Census templates

Joy. I guess we need a single one for the 2010 version. I do mean there's about 37k articles where someone needs to manually review and update the stats. The references aren't so much obsolete as out of date (an old 'as of' essentially). I have no idea how to even begin although it does seem like the 2010 data can be parsed out. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 05:37, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

It's important that we keep the 2000 census data, which is now historic. Ideally we would cover the demographics as far back as records are kept. The 2000 census data was uploaded by bot (Rambot), then a few years later I went through and improved the text substantially, though I was never completely satisfied. The 2010 data came out in about 2011/12 and I have had no involvement with that, so I'm not sure if has been used systematically, though I think not. It really needs automation, and unfortunately I am not currently allowed to edit using any tool other than "typing in the box," whatever that means. I can however do various scans and other jobs, though I have to present the results off-wiki. Meanwhile I chill and watch bits of the wiki fall apart.... All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 14:15, 29 June 2014 (UTC).

fyi, we had a hackathon at the Sunlight foundation, where some census people participated.[2] tried to work through an API > wikidata > infobox process. i hand added some information at http://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1391, scraped from factfinder. [3]; if a motivated bot operator wanted to populate fields in wikidata, then we could link there, and not have to run bot in english (hint, hint). cheers, hope to see you at wikimania. 198.24.31.114 (talk) 23:39, 30 June 2014 (UTC)