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Hatting

You just hatted an exchange at Talk:Zionism [1], and then this comment came along [2] which responds to a comment in the hatted area. It was inserted after the hatted area. Just bringing it to your attention, as obviously either the Nishidani comment should be included in the hatted area or your hatting should be removed entirely. I assume it was added after the hatted area as an oversight, but I don't think it's appropriate for me to adjust the hatting. Coretheapple (talk) 18:50, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Hey, Coretheapple. Hm, likely an edit conflict. I guess I see the new addition as at least not simple sniping at one another but actually trying to address the conflict? What I was trying to collapse and stop was the 'no I'm not, you are' 'no you are' 'no you are' stuff. I wasn't trying to end the discussion. Valereee (talk) 18:58, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Well yes, I get that you're trying to remove the sniping, but now Nishidani is responding to a comment by myself that you've hatted and thus rendered invisible. If you don't think that comment should be hatted, you should leave in my comment because that is what he's responding to. Coretheapple (talk) 19:25, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

I'm referring to this [3]. Also I'm making a comment on Andrevan's sourcing as it relates to the POV issue, and you've hatted it, so which basically nukes it out of the discussion for purposes of determining consensus, Coretheapple (talk) 19:30, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

I've unhatted. Please try to at least pretend you're assuming assume good faith. :D Valereee (talk) 11:35, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Can you please elaborate on the last comment? I've made no comments one way or the other on the good faith of other editors. Coretheapple (talk) 13:27, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

@Coretheapple, well, for me "I left out that it is needesslly inflammatory verbiage that has no place in these discussions" is kind of inflammatory itself. :)

Please understand I'm not trying to be heavyhanded. I just want everyone to turn down the heat, as the various opinions in this discussion are already pretty passionate. When we're discussing something we really feel strongly about with someone who is disagreeing with us and feels equally as strongly about, it's never useful to escalate so that as well as disagreeing with one another, now we're also upset with each other. We've got a talk page with tens of thousands of words, 15 open discussions, and a couple dozen archives. Valereee (talk) 13:44, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Perhaps. But administrators who are effective in contentious subject areas try hard not to be one-sided. If a person responds to inflammatory language, they don't make gratuitous remarks about the response, and the response only, and say nothing about the inflammatory language that gave rise to that response. Just my two cents. I am "involved" after all. I think you may be trying to be even-handed but it is not coming across that way. Coretheapple (talk) 13:49, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

I sincerely am trying to be even-handed, and I hope you'll bring it up to me when you feel I haven't been. I'm trying to turn down the heat, and as far as I can tell it does seem to be coming down in recent days, whether that's because of or despite my presence. And I apologize that my remarks felt gratuitous, of course that wasn't my intention, but I see that I need to be more careful. Valereee (talk) 13:57, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

I'd like to know why that was what was hatted and not the various other bad faith comments. Andre🚐 20:53, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

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Spaghetti

Hi, how are you? There's a very important issue on the spaghetti page, if you want to participate; I assure you that I haven't found a single Italian source that mentions "sparghetti" and the term "spargo" ("spargo" is a verb ("io spargo"; [4]); the paragraph I've deleted referred to "spago" ([5], [6]), hence "spaghetti").
See: Talk:Spaghetti#Sparghetti, and [7]. JacktheBrown (talk) 02:13, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

October music

story · music · places

You may remember Maryvonne Le Dizès, my story today as on 28 August. Some September music was unusual: last compositions and eternal light, with Ligeti mentioned in story and music. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:40, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

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Can I request rev/del please?

[17] (if you think it warrants it. Thank you. Knitsey (talk) 13:20, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Ops, I've just noticed you're not on the rev/del list, sorry! I will find another admin. Thanks, Knitsey (talk) 13:24, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

No worries, I did it and blocked the user. I'm not on the list only because I tend to forget the details of how to do it in between times. :) Valereee (talk) 13:35, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Well that sounds like the story of my life. Thank you so much. Knitsey (talk) 13:42, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Could I have advice please?

Yesterday, I reverted some edits at Mark Cross (brand) as over promotional by Markcross1845 (talk · contribs) and left them a welcome message with COI details. They ignored it and carried on editing so I left them a warning message.

Today Mc1845 (talk · contribs) is editing the article. I left them a COI welcome message but they've ignored it. What do I do next? Thanks for any advice you can give. Knitsey (talk) 15:07, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

lol looks like Writ Keeper got there first. Valereee (talk) 15:11, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Flippin 'eck, it has been sorted already by @Writ Keeper:. Knitsey (talk) 15:11, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

(edit conflict)x2 I've blocked both accounts. Generally speaking, if an account has been making obviously promotional/spam edits, and has an obvious username to match, it can simply be reported to the Usernames for Admin Attention board, where it'll be handled. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 15:12, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi Writ Keeper, thanks for sorting it out. A while ago I had something similar and used UAA but was advised it was COI. I admit, being fairly new at the time, I just shrugged my shoulders and left it as I had no idea where to take it other than UAA. Knitsey (talk) 15:15, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, that's totally fair; it can be a bit wiggly whether something is appropriate for UAA or not. But you could probably use the original Markcross1845 account as the definitive example for "promotional accounts that UAA was made to handle." :) Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 15:18, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

OK, thanks you for that. And for blocking.

@Valereee, I promise to choose someone else to bother with my next question! Knitsey (talk) 15:22, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

No worries, that's the point of having tools. :) Valereee (talk) 15:25, 9 October 2024 (UTC)

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Cozze allo zafferano

Good morning.

The only sources for this article are recipes; maybe I should start a deletion procedure, what do you think? JacktheBrown (talk) 10:53, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Not having good enough sources is not a reason to assume you should go straight to AfD. If a dish is traditional to an area, and there is an RS saying so, we arguably can include it somewhere even if we can't show independent notability of the dish.

First, try to see if you can show independent notability by looking for sources. Do you have access to Italian reference works about Italian food? Or books about the cuisine of Abruzzo? High-quality modern cookbooks often include significant coverage of traditional dishes as an introduction to recipes. Does the dish every go by any other name? If so, search for all names.

If you can't show independent notability, try to see if there's another place for the information. Could it be merged/redirected to Cuisine of Abruzzo or L'Aquila saffron or List of mussel dishes?

I found one source that references a 1998 book, Food and Memories of Abruzzo, that mentions the dish with a description. I've added it and ordered the 1998 book from my library. I don't know much about Italian sources for Italian food. Does Italy have the kind of food journalism and academia that is present in English-speaking countries? It's the place Slow Food started, I would think you'd have both. Valereee (talk) 13:00, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

"I found one source that references a 1998 book, Food and Memories of Abruzzo, that mentions the dish with a description. I've added it and ordered the 1998 book from my library." Thank you very much. JacktheBrown (talk) 14:43, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 42, 2024)

Hello, Valereee. The article for improvement of the week is: Longshore drift Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Navy • Currency of Spain Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 14 October 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI •

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Nomination of Asian News International vs. Wikimedia Foundation for deletion

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Neapolitan pizza

Hi, can you check what I wrote? I'm not sure I wrote in excellent English: [24]. Thanks in advance. JacktheBrown (talk) 13:43, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Enjoy your vacation!

 — Amakuru (talk) 11:58, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Pulling out in less than an hour, headed to Vermont! :D Valereee (talk) 12:50, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Say hello to Champy! CMD (talk) 13:16, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Yes, enjoy! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:50, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

RfA Elections

Hello my friend (if i may be so bold). 'Twasn't your comments i referred to on talk:RfA, but others'. Primarily, i'm sorry to say, a couple of Hammersoft's, which disappointed me because i've always felt him to be insightful over a lot of areas; just let himself down for a moment, i fear. I fully understand the concerns, and i'm with you and others who have suggested that we work out a way to make it more manageable, especially if the test run is deemed successful and we continue elections. Happy days, ~ Lindsay^Hello 16:51, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Please do call me friend. :) I'm very glad I didn't make you feel bad. Valereee (talk) 22:35, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

DYK for Asian News International vs. Wikimedia Foundation

On 19 October 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Asian News International vs. Wikimedia Foundation, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a judge is threatening to shut down Wikipedia in India over a defamation lawsuit? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Asian News International vs. Wikimedia Foundation. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Asian News International vs. Wikimedia Foundation), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Block of 70.83.133.243

Thanks for your block of 70.83.133.243 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). If you look at the history at Walking with Dinosaurs (film) you'll find numerous IPs all doing similar edits with the same (invalid) edit summary. Don't know if more blocks might be appropriate, but wanted to flag. --ZimZalaBim ^talk 21:53, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

This week's article for improvement (week 43, 2024)

Hello, Valereee. The article for improvement of the week is: Image Please be bold and help improve it! Previous selections: Longshore drift • Navy Get involved with the AFI project: Nominate an article • Review nominations Posted by: MusikBot talk 00:05, 21 October 2024 (UTC) using MediaWiki message delivery (talk) on behalf of WikiProject AFI •

More India

This video [25] is about the current court-thing, but at ca 12:50 he (Nikhil Pahwa) mentions the older "map-thing", I thought it was interesting. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 11:06, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

I've been really interested in that case. If the choice is between identifying editors and being blocked by India, I'd choose being blocked by India every time. Is Asian_News_International#Lawsuit_against_Wikipedia really all we have on that? Seems like it ought to be an article. Valereee (talk) 12:39, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Per "This article has been mentioned by multiple media organizations:" on the talkpage, you can probably make an article about it. Perhaps the topic fits at Censorship of Wikipedia? I don't remember if some minister threatened blocking about the map. And yes, if they want to block, let them block. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:48, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Like I said in 2020:[26] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:53, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Draft:ANI vs. Wikipedia. Unfortunately many of the sources are behind paywalls for me, but if you can get to them, feel free! Valereee (talk) 12:56, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Now we're waiting for media-coverage on that article... Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:41, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Yes, and hoping we don't get some judge demanding WMF tell ANI who I am so they can sue me. :) Valereee (talk) 16:42, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

YES!!! Wasn't really expecting Delhi High Court-coverage, though. Interesting. That was a crazy idea for an article you had, I obviously had nothing to do with it. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:48, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

[27]. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:49, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

ANI has accused you of "pressurising the Ld. Single Judge". And, the Chief Justice of the Court appears to be quite sympathetic to the accusation. TrangaBellam (talk) 15:03, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

I don't think I've seen this much media-coverage so quickly on a WP-article since Recession. Hope you're holding up. I don't think I've started a WP-article that got media-coverage... Yes I have! Catherine Nakalembe said on a BBC interview "Imagine, I now have a Wikipedia page." Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:49, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't typically write or even edit articles that get media coverage. Honestly I'm just kind of bemused. This is all stuff widely published in reliable sources. How is this subjudice disclosure or pressuring a judge by Wikipedia if it wasn't by the dozen sources we're citing? I'm trying to decide whether it's just grandstanding on the parts of the judges? Valereee (talk) 19:29, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

If I understand it correctly, as the judges see it, you, me, text on WP, are reps of WMF, so the article is WMF:s attempt to influence the trial, and that is naughty. BOLD doesn't exist in their world, the publication of your article was decided by WMF in advance. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:23, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Oh, I think I understand...they're saying that because WMF is a party, WMF shouldn't be discussing. They don't realize that WMF didn't discuss. Valereee (talk) 20:35, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

That poor lawyer! Restrain your client! Valereee (talk) 20:39, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

I do feel sorry for him. Coming into court and having the judges slamming the ANI vs WMF article in his face can't have been much fun. But if you hadn't started it, I or someone else probably would have. The sources are there, and it's interesting. There might be some discussion on this in the talk-section of the next Signpost, we'll see. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:08, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

This writer does realize that, it's encouraging: [28] Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 06:32, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

So, the article was mentioned by court, then taken down by WMF. That's quite a distinction. Category:Wikipedia Office-protected pages Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 04:55, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

I am all agog! Valereee (talk) 08:55, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

I did not expect that. This conversation may or may not interest you. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:01, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Btw, if you make a "An article I started/edited has been WP:BLACKLOCKED!!" userbox, let me know. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:07, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

hahaha...my proudest achievement. Valereee (talk) 09:11, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Seeing a Streisand Effect on this...every paper that has covered the issue at all over the past several weeks has released a story in the past few hours. How long do you think it'll be before it gets picked up outside of India? Valereee (talk) 09:50, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

I'm a little disappointed it hasn't, hence my gentle prodding of SH. And many many papers quotes what WP says about ANI too. If you see a good source (not reddit), add it to List_of_Streisand_effect_examples#India. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:31, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Not about India, but good for him. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:49, 17 October 2024 (UTC)

Tech News: 2024-43

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• The Mobile Apps team has released an update to the iOS app's navigation, and it is now available in the latest App store version. The team added a new Profile menu that allows for easy access to editor features like Notifications and Watchlist from the Article view, and brings the "Donate" button into a more accessible place for users who are reading an article. This is the first phase of a larger planned navigation refresh to help the iOS app transition from a primarily reader-focused app, to an app that fully supports reading and editing. The Wikimedia Foundation has added more editing features and support for on-wiki communication based on volunteer requests in recent years.

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• Later this month, logged-out editors of these 12 wikis will start to have temporary accounts created. The list may slightly change - some wikis may be removed but none will be added. Temporary account is a new type of user account. It enhances the logged-out editors' privacy and makes it easier for community members to communicate with them. If you maintain any tools, bots, or gadgets on these 12 wikis, and your software is using data about IP addresses or is available for logged-out users, please check if it needs to be updated to work with temporary accounts. Guidance on how to update the code is available. Read more about the deployment plan across all wikis.
• View all 33 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, the South Ndebele, Pannonian Rusyn, Obolo, Iban and Tai Nüa Wikipedia languages were created last week. [29][30][31][32][33]
• It is now possible to create functions on Wikifunctions using Wikidata lexemes, through the new Wikidata lexeme type launched last week. When you go to one of these functions, the user interface provides a lexeme selector that helps you pick a lexeme from Wikidata that matches the word you type. After hitting run, your selected lexeme is retrieved from Wikidata, transformed into a Wikidata lexeme type, and passed into the selected function. Read more about this in the latest Wikifunctions newsletter.

Updates for technical contributors

• Users of the Wikimedia sites can now format dates more easily in different languages with the new {{#timef:…}} parser function. For example, {{#timef:now|date|en}} will show as "17 November 2024". Previously, {{#time:…}} could be used to format dates, but this required knowledge of the order of the time and date components and their intervening punctuation. #timef (or #timefl for local time) provides access to the standard date formats that MediaWiki uses in its user interface. This may help to simplify some templates on multi-lingual wikis like Commons and Meta. [34][35]
• Commons and Meta users can now efficiently retrieve the user's language using {{USERLANGUAGE}} instead of using {{int:lang}}. [36]
• The Product and Tech Advisory Council (PTAC) now has its pilot members with representation across Africa, Asia, Europe, North America and South America. They will work to address the Movement Strategy's Technology Council initiative of having a co-defined and more resilient technological platform. [37]

In depth

• The latest quarterly Growth newsletter is available. It includes: an upcoming Newcomer Homepage Community Updates module, new Community Configuration options, and details on new projects.
• The Wikimedia Foundation is now an official partner of the CVE program, which is an international effort to catalog publicly disclosed cybersecurity vulnerabilities. This partnership will allow the Security Team to instantly publish common vulnerabilities and exposures (CVE) records that are affecting MediaWiki core, extensions, and skins, along with any other code the Foundation is a steward of.
• The Community Wishlist is now testing machine translations for Wishlist content. Volunteers can now read machine-translated versions of wishes and dive into discussions even before translators arrive to translate content.

Meetings and events

• 24 October - Wiki Education Speaker Series Webinar - Open Source Tech: Building the Wiki Education Dashboard, featuring Wikimedia interns and a Web developer in the panel.
• 20–22 December 2024 - Indic Wikimedia Hackathon Bhubaneswar 2024 in Odisha, India. A hackathon for community members, including developers, designers and content editors, to build technical solutions that improve contributors' experiences.

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Administrator Elections: Discussion phase

Administrator Elections | Discussion phase

The discussion phase of the October 2024 administrator elections is officially open. As a reminder, the schedule of the election is:

• October 22–24 - Discussion phase
• October 25–31 - SecurePoll voting phase
• November 1–? - Scrutineering phase

During October 22–24, we will be in the discussion phase. The candidate subpages will open to questions and comments from everyone, in the same style as a request for adminship. You may discuss the candidates at Wikipedia:Administrator elections/October 2024/Discussion phase.

On October 25, we will start the voting phase. The candidate subpages will close again to public questions and discussion, and everyone will have a week to use the SecurePoll software to vote, which uses a secret ballot. You can see who voted, but not who they voted for. Please note that the vote tallies cannot be made public until after voting has ended and as such, it will not be possible for you to see an individual candidate's tally during the election. The suffrage requirements are different from those at RFA.

Once voting concludes, we will begin the scrutineering phase, which will last for an indeterminate amount of time, perhaps a week or two. Once everything is certified, the results will be posted on the main election page. In order to be granted adminship, a candidate must have received at least 70.0% support, calculated as Support / (Support + Oppose). As this is a vote and not a consensus, there are no bureaucrat discussions ("crat chats").

Any questions or issues can be asked on the election talk page. Thank you for your participation. Happy electing.

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Request

Hello Valereee, I hope you're doing well. I recently moved the Imphal Airport Wikipedia page to Bir Tirkendrajit International Airport, but I accidentally used the incorrect spelling. The correct title should be Bir Tikendrajit International Airport, which reflects the official name of the airport. Unfortunately, I am unable to correct the move myself due to system restrictions. Could you kindly move the page to the correct title: Bir Tikendrajit International Airport? Thank you very much for your help and time! Best regards, AstuteFlicker (talk) 15:37, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

Invitation to participate in a research

Hello,

The Wikimedia Foundation is conducting a survey of Wikipedians to better understand what draws administrators to contribute to Wikipedia, and what affects administrator retention. We will use this research to improve experiences for Wikipedians, and address common problems and needs. We have identified you as a good candidate for this research, and would greatly appreciate your participation in this anonymous survey.

You do not have to be an Administrator to participate.

The survey should take around 10-15 minutes to complete. You may read more about the study on its Meta page and view its privacy statement .

Please find our contact on the project Meta page if you have any questions or concerns.

Kind Regards,

WMF Research Team

BGerdemann (WMF) (talk) 19:22, 23 October 2024 (UTC)

Administrator Elections: Voting phase

Administrator Elections | Voting phase

The voting phase of the October 2024 administrator elections has started and continues until 23:59 31st October 2024 UTC. You can participate in the voting phase at Wikipedia:Administrator elections/October 2024/Voting phase.

As a reminder, the schedule of the election is:

• October 25–31 - SecurePoll voting phase
• November 1–? - Scrutineering phase

In the voting phase, the candidate subpages will close to public questions and discussion, and everyone who qualifies for a vote will have a week to use the SecurePoll software to vote, which uses a secret ballot. You can see who voted, but not who they voted for. Please note that the vote tallies cannot be made public until after voting has ended and as such, it will not be possible for you to see an individual candidate's tally during the election. The suffrage requirements are different from those at RFA.

Once voting concludes, we will begin the scrutineering phase, which will last for an indeterminate amount of time, perhaps a week or two. Once everything is certified, the results will be posted on the main election page. In order to be granted adminship, a candidate must have received at least 70.0% support, calculated as Support / (Support + Oppose). As this is a vote and not a consensus, there are no bureaucrat discussions ("crat chats").

Any questions or issues can be asked on the election talk page. Thank you for your participation. Happy electing.

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:30, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

World Health Organization

Hi, I have added a sentence on the Italy page; could you please help me format the source correctly? JacktheBrown (talk) 04:59, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

So when this happens, look at the source again and see if you can figure it out the citation info. In this case, there was an easy way: click on 'download citation', then on 'plain text', it even allows you to copy. Then all you have to do is enter the information manually in the correct format, which in VisEd on a laptop is easy. No idea about using a mobile device. I've fixed that one. Valereee (talk) 11:03, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

ANI

Hello, Valereee,

In your second comment in your closure of a discussion at ANI, I think you are missing a word or two in the sentence. It's like you are starting to issue a warning but then the sentence just ends without you completing the thought. I don't disagree with your closure but it just seems like the second part of the closure is missing a word or phrase. Thanks. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:32, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Hm, I meant 'please note when you're involved' as 'when you're involved, please note that'. But I just saw someone else not interpreting it the way I intended, too. I've revised, can you take a look? (Also hm...I didn't underscore/strike, just revised...that okay, you think?) Valereee (talk) 20:38, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you

Good close! Thank you! Bishonen | tålk 20:36, 26 October 2024 (UTC).

Thanks! Valereee (talk) 20:40, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Acquaintance

I've just learned something from your user page. I'd been spelling that word "aquaintance" all my life. Maproom (talk) 22:15, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

It still always looks okay to me lol...I seriously think the reason I put it on my adopt-a-typo was because at some point I wrote it, it got underline in red by some software, and I went, "Doh!" Same with dilemma. I truly believed it was spelled dilemna. :D Valereee (talk) 22:34, 26 October 2024 (UTC)

Farewell

I can provide examples of many editors and admins regarding numerous improper actions that could definitely harm the credibility of Wikipedia as well as the community in the long run.

You warned me and threatened to block me for my "in general" accusations, but I told you repeatedly that I don’t want to make enemies by taking names. I guess that was inevitable. I don't know how long these forces will tolerate my views on this platform, but I see you have a clean heart. So maybe all is not lost in this world. I’ll be happy to see that there are still some editors and admins who have a little conscience left.

Also, the editor who raised that complaint about me is now so rattled after my reply that they are trying to fix their blatant POV pushing by making it seem like they are, in fact, neutral. I hope you all will see through this and the timing involved. Although I still don’t have much hope, some actions by community members (although rare) make me believe there is some hope.

Regards and farewell—like the final farewell. DangalOh (talk) 17:22, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Tech News: 2024-44

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Updates for editors

• Later in November, the Charts extension will be deployed to the test wikis in order to help identify and fix any issue. A security review is underway to then enable deployment to pilot wikis for broader testing. You can read the October project update and see the latest documentation and examples on Beta Wikipedia.
• View all 32 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, Pediapress.com, an external service that creates books from Wikipedia, can now use Wikimedia Maps to include existing pre-rendered infobox map images in their printed books on Wikipedia. [38]

Updates for technical contributors

• Wikis can use the Guided Tour extension to help newcomers understand how to edit. The Guided Tours extension now works with dark mode. Guided Tour maintainers can check their tours to see that nothing looks odd. They can also set emitTransitionOnStep to true to fix an old bug. They can use the new flag allowAutomaticBack to avoid back-buttons they don't want. [39]
• Administrators in the Wikimedia projects who use the Nuke Extension will notice that mass deletions done with this tool have the "Nuke" tag. This change will make reviewing and analyzing deletions performed with the tool easier. [40]

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