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Punjab Colleges

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Fails WP:NCORP: other than unproven 2024 controversy, there is no direct and in-depth coverage about this WP:MILL group of colleges. The article has a history of promotional content as well. Gheus (talk) 16:53, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Kids Zone

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Fails WP:GNG: this is a press release and other articles just briefly mention it. I think WP:TOOSOON applies. Gheus (talk) 16:39, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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TV One Pakistan

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Lacks direct and in-depth coverage to pass WP:ORGDEPTH. Fails WP:NORG. Gheus (talk) 16:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Kemer Cup

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Tagged for a year as unsourced and when I click the external link it blocks me Chidgk1 (talk) 16:24, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete: I don't find anything about a tennis event, there seems to be a soccer event with a similar name that pops up in Turkish sources. The one source now in the article is primary, so not helpful. Oaktree b (talk) 16:51, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

¿Por qué diablos?

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Article about unnotable Colombian movie without sources. I searched online for sources, but I couldn't find any. SolxrgashiUnited (talk) 16:20, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Tabani's School of Accountancy

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Only sourced with its official website. Non-notable accounting school, fails WP:NORG. Gheus (talk) 16:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Professionals' Academy of Commerce

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Non-notable accounting school, ref 1 is a database entry, ref 2/3 is a primary ref, and ref 3 is a press release. Fails WP:NORG. Gheus (talk) 16:16, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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List of Ukrainian literature translated into English

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This strikes me as an non-encyclopedic cross-categorization per WP:CROSSCAT; perfectly appropriate for a category but failing WP:NLIST under WP:NOTDATABASE and WP:INDISCRIMINATE given the massive volume of potential entries in this list. In a WP:BEFORE I find discussion of the concept of Ukrainian literature in translation but not a discussion of these subjects as a group (and the selection of them, if not indiscriminate, appears to be an exercise in original research). Dclemens1971 (talk) 16:14, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Eski Havaalanı (Tram İzmir)

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As Tram İzmir belongs to the council I think that cite on the Turkish article counts as a primary source. Thus there are not enough sources to show notability. Chidgk1 (talk) 16:11, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Egekent 2 railway station

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Nothing in the Turkish article shows it to be notable Chidgk1 (talk) 16:03, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Commissar Shakespeare

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Tagged a long time ago as uncited and apparently it is not very good https://www.timeout.com/movies/commissar-shakespeare Chidgk1 (talk) 16:00, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Kerry Sink

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Biography that does not satisfy WP:NPROF, and unfortunately I don't see any independent significant coverage to satisfy WP:NBASIC. Possibly WP:TOOSOON but presently not notable. Bobby Cohn (talk) 15:53, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Comment: article has been drafitfied. ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 16:49, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

@Keiraphillips, you've also tagged it for deletion citing a desire for a clean start, but reviewers have provided feedback in their declination rationales that will likely be valuable to a draft article. It's not necessary to delete it, the draft article could continue to be worked on. Further, though I wouldn't be opposed to procedurally closing this AfD, notability isn't something that would be solved with more time in the draft space. I hope this is a good-faithed effort to improve the article and not an attempt at avoid scrutiny; would you mind expanding more on your thinking? Bobby Cohn (talk) 17:16, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Ximena Caminos

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Following brief discussion on the talk page, in which an editor drafted a new version of the article, it makes more sense to delete this article and for active contributors to create something in draftspace in due course. In its current form, it resembles a CV or promotional piece more than an encyclopedia article. The subject is mentioned in reliable sources but, again, too promotional to establish notability. Northernhenge (talk) 15:50, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Mommy, I'm Scared

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Tagged many years ago as uncited. Although it apparently won some prizes when I click on the independent cite on the Turkish article I am blocked. Chidgk1 (talk) 15:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Aeroflot Flight 11

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Per WP:GNG and WP:EVENTCRIT: Per WP:GNG, "sources should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability". Other than databases (tertiary sources), there exists no reliable secondary sources that provide significant in-depth and sustained continued coverage of the event, with the occurrence having no demonstrated lasting effects nor long-term impacts on a significant region of the world that would make this event notable enough for a stand-alone article. This article from CHITA.ru was the only piece of non-tertiary coverage that I could find, but as stated before, it doesn't provide significant nor in-depth coverage of the event. Aviationwikiflight (talk) 15:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Keep as a commercial flight with a number of fatalities it surely meets notability criteria. I don't really see what the problem with the sources is either.TheLongTone (talk) 15:29, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Just because it was a fatal commercial flight doesn't mean it's automatically notable. This sort of argument is not enshrined in any notability guideline. As stated above, WP:GNG requires that sources be secondary. Databases (including those cited in the article) are considered tertiary sources and therefore do not contribute to notability. It's been discussed a few times at AfD, WP:RS/N and WT:AV and the general consensus was that Airdisaster.ru isn't reliable. Same goes for Russianplanes.net, which was also discussed at WP:RS/N Aviationwikiflight (talk) 15:44, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Jabuke i vino

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Non-notable album. Fails WP:SIGCOV. scope_creep^Talk 14:58, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Redirect to Zana (band)#discography; the song itself does not seem to be notable.TheLongTone (talk) 15:32, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Dodirni mi kolena

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Non-notable album. Fails WP:SIGCOV. scope_creep^Talk 14:57, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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2010 Duke University faux sex thesis controversy

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I am nominating this article because I do not believe it meets notability guidelines.

Note that this article was previously deleted and then undeleted.

WP:EVENT - this content has no enduring historical significance. This does not have widespread national or international impact. This is arguably routine in the sense of shock news/water cooler stories/viral phenomena.
There are no lasting effects
The geographical scope is limited to Duke
The duration of coverage is limited to 2010 with one more article a few months later
There is one NYTimes article surveying the person in question but the focus is on the aftermath rather than the event in question or even the controversy in question
WP:NOTNEWS -
Wikipedia considers the enduring notability of persons and events. While news coverage can be useful source material for encyclopedic topics, most newsworthy events do not qualify for inclusion and Wikipedia is not written in news style."
In the original AFD, the author wrote

This is not an article about the faux thesis, it's an article about the controversy that the faux thesis generated.

However, after 10 years, I think it is fair to say that one of the responses to that is quite accurate

But most of the coverage was not commentary on the controversy (and "media discussion over routine privacy breaches" is also very routine and needs a fairly high standard to pass WP:NOT#NEWS. For example, is there evidence that any reliable sources have assessed this controversy within the field of "controversies over privacy" and concluding this is a significant one?). As a controversy, is this seen or will this be seen as a controversy of "enduring notability" (WP:NOT) that changed, shaped or defined the debate on privacy compared to a thousand other private communications that someone's friend posted to the world and went viral?

There are also WP:BLP considerations but I am more reluctant to specifically cite policy because this is not a biographical article. I invite others to do so if they are more confident on the matter. Transcendence (talk) 05:13, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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Delete Per nom, there's no indication there is lasting interest in this event, even at Duke. Campus controversies like this seem somewhat common at this point. I don't think it's even worth a mention at History of Duke University#Recent history: 1993–present, and it also seems undue weight to list at even Template:Duke University. Reywas92^Talk 18:00, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: Relisting, this has already been brought to AFD so Soft Deletion is not an option.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:10, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

Keep: the matter is properly cited to multiple reliable sources, including indeed The New York Times, which has covered the matter more than once actually: the one in the article is from 2018, eight years after the 'thesis' went viral, so the concern about a brief news event is incorrect. The matter has been covered by numerous other newspapers and news sites so its notability is not in doubt. ~~I'll add~~I have added a few more sources and descriptions of reactions by The Daily Telegraph and The New York Times (including in later years) for good measure, but the article is already correctly sourced and summarizes the story clearly. Chiswick Chap (talk) 12:33, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Keep. Multiple reliable sources confirms this event's lasting notability. Add doi:10.1177/1045159514558412 and this to the list of sources. Esculenta (talk) 13:54, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Added both of those, and came across yet more useful sources when I did so. One other point: the 2010 AfD only had sources from that year, so it was actually too early to tell if the matter had a wider effect. We now have five substantial sources from later years, in multiple disciplines, so we know that it did. Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:40, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Keep. Multiple reliable sources (and artistic responses) confirm notability. However, I agree with "deletes" it probably does not belong prominently in Duke University templates any longer: the coverage and artistic response does not seem to emphasize this as a notable event for Duke specifically but rather for the Internet and contemporary sexual patterns in general, as an epitome. It may make more sense to attach this page to general Internet events or sexuality templates rather than to the Duke template. RowanElder (talk) 21:28, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Keep. Agree with user above who pointed out the event got reliable news coverage eight years after it happened, making it notable. XwycP3 (talk) 18:00, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

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I'd have thought this was a SNOW KEEP by now, as we have a) transformed the article with many new sources b) demonstrated multi-year notability and c) different editors have advanced sound reasons for keeping the article. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:41, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep: I disagree with the nom's WP:EVENT assertion - reliable sources were citing this faux thesis years after its publication. Also, as Chiswick Chap has noted, its notability is not in doubt.--DesiMoore (talk) 15:32, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Alice Garlisi

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Non-notable figure skater. Bgsu98 (Talk) 14:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Tetr.io

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Doesn't seem to meet WP:NGAME, with no independent reviews or coverage besides listacles found on this article or in my WP:BEFORE searches. Previous blank and redirects were reverted. -1ctinus📝🗨 14:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Merge to List of Tetris variants. Besides what's in the article, I also found [1] and [2], but it's just a lot of listicles where nobody has written anything substantial or over two paragraphs about the game. ~ A412 ^talk! 16:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Redirect to List of Tetris variants#Unofficial games (or an anchor, given the list's length) as it was before, where the game's already mentioned. Definitely does not meet WP:NGAME per nom. (As a disclaimer, I created Tetr.io as that redirect before it became an article.) Nyakase (talk • she/her) 16:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Khalid Al-Hammadi

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doesn't seem to meet WP:SPORTSCRIT with no secondary sources -1ctinus📝🗨 14:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Bepi Pezzulli

An unimportant person promoting himself. Does not meet any notability criteria. Jan Arvid Götesson (talk) 13:46, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Delete: Largely appears PROMO, with most links that are RS about an Italian campaign that the subject seems to be involved with. Nothing showing this is a notable individual either. Oaktree b (talk) 16:54, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Haldyn Glass

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Consensus has been that notability is not automatic in WP:LISTED (or any other) case. Fails to meet WP:NCORP, WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:26, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

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Delete as too promotional for wiki --Moarnighar (talk) 15:06, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

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Tunbow

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Appears to be wholly promotional Amigao (talk) 06:10, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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Delete Only routine business listings found. Fails WP:NCORP. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 11:46, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Comment: The company's Chinese name is Tunbow Group (traditional Chinese: 東保集團; simplified Chinese: 东保集团) and the founder is Charles Chan (traditional Chinese: 陳鑑光; simplified Chinese: 陈鉴光). Cunard (talk) 11:51, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. Chong, Cheng-man 莊程敏; Yan, Kiu-ling 殷考玲 (2021-09-09). "老品牌拓疆土升級須創新" [Old Brands Expand Territories, Upgrading Requires Innovation]. Lion Rock Daily [zh] (in Chinese). p. P6. Archived from the original on 2024-12-29. Retrieved 2024-12-29.
  The article notes: "有「熨斗大王」之稱的東保集團創辦人兼主席陳鑑光博士，憑藉2001年推出自家研發塑料製成的電子控溫熨斗，短短一年售出逾70萬件，從此奠定集團在歐洲市場的地位，但他並未因此滿足。去年在港設立研究開發部門，為進軍大灣區9市市場作準備，目標以開拓9+2城市的家庭為主。東保集團成立逾25年，產品走中高端路線，研究開發（R&D）部門一直在內地，但由去年起在香港同樣設立R&D部門並設逾20位開發人員"
  From Google Translate: "Dr. Chen Jianguang, the founder and chairman of Tunbow Group, known as the "Iron King", launched his own electronic temperature-controlled irons made of plastic in 2001. More than 700,000 units were sold in just one year, establishing the group's position in the European market. status, but he was not satisfied with it. Last year, a research and development department was established in Hong Kong to prepare for entering the 9 cities in the Greater Bay Area. The goal is to develop families in the 9+2 cities. Tunbow Group has been established for more than 25 years, and its products are mid-to-high-end. The research and development (R&D) department has always been in the mainland. But since last year, it has also set up an R&D department in Hong Kong with more than 20 developers."
2. "鼓勵溝通合作助企業擺脫單打獨鬥香港模具及產品科技協會見證「百業之母」改朝換代" [Encouraging Communication and Cooperation to Help Businesses Break Free from Solo Struggles: Hong Kong Mould and Product Technology Association Witnesses the Transformation of the 'Mother of All Industries']. Headline Daily (in Chinese). 2016-01-28. p. P40.
  The article notes: "憑首創開放蒸發器熨斗，成功晉身世界五大熨斗代工生產商，贏得“熨斗大王”稱譽的東保集團創辦人兼主席陳鑑光博士（Dr. Charles Chan，見圖），全靠他面對挑戰時視危為機的信念。陳鑑光博士與他的太太在90年代初期決定闖一闖，合組貿易公司，成立東保。在創業初期，東保只是以設計及貿易性質運作。"
  From Google Translate: "With the first open evaporator iron, Dr. Charles Chan (pictured), founder and chairman of Tunbow Group, successfully joined the world's top five iron OEM manufacturers and won the title of "Iron King", all because of his ability to face challenges The belief that every crisis is an opportunity. Dr. Chen Kam-kwong and his wife decided to venture into the business in the early 1990s, forming a trading company and establishing Tunbow. In the early days of business, Tunbow only operated in the nature of design and trading."
3. Sit, Wai-kit 薛偉傑 (2010-08-06). "小家電商 8招抗逆境" [8 Strategies for Small Home Appliance Businesses to Overcome Adversity]. Ming Pao (in Chinese). p. B11.
  The article notes: "東保集團成立於1995 年，主力生產小型家電，特別是電熨斗。其客戶包括多個知名品牌如伊萊克斯、飛利浦、白朗、Kenwood、勝家等。"
  From Google Translate: "Tunbow Group was established in 1995 and focuses on the production of small household appliances, especially electric irons. Its customers include many well-known brands such as Electrolux, Philips, Blanc, Kenwood, Singer, etc."
  The article notes: "另外，東保集團與一般廠商不同的，是它很強調一條龍式垂直生產。該公司自設電路板生產部、五金部、壓鑄部、塑膠部、噴油部等。總之，就是自行生產其小家電所需的電路板、金屬機殼、塑膠機殼，以及自行為機殼噴油。"
  From Google Translate: "In addition, Tunbow Group is different from ordinary manufacturers in that it emphasises one-stop vertical production. The company has its own circuit board production department, hardware department, die-casting department, plastic department, fuel injection department, etc. In short, it means producing the circuit boards, metal casings, and plastic casings needed for its small household appliances by itself, and spraying oil on the casings by itself."
4. Leung Man-fung 梁文峰 (2010-07-12). "東保拓內銷或5年內上市" [Tunbow Expands Domestic Sales, May Go Public within 5 Years]. Sing Pao Daily News (in Chinese). p. B1.
  The article notes: "家電設計、生產商東保集團為開拓內銷市場，正於惠州投資5億元擴展生產基地，預計總產能將提升5 倍。現時深圳兩廠房共有約20條生產線，年產800萬台小家電。"
  From Google Translate: "Tunbow Group, a home appliance designer and manufacturer, is investing 500 million yuan to expand its production base in Huizhou in order to develop the domestic market. It is expected that the total production capacity will increase five times. Currently, the two factories in Shenzhen have a total of about 20 production lines, with an annual output of 8 million units of small household appliances."
5. "圖：深圳港資企業「綠色風」盛" [Tunbow Expands Domestic Sales, May Go Public Within 5 Years] (in Chinese). China News Service. 2010-07-07.
  The article notes: "7月7日，一群香港媒體記者專程來到深圳寶安，釆訪推行「綠色生產」、「綠色小家電」揚名業界的香港東保集團深圳生產基地。該集團為減少生產污染投資3,000多萬港圓對硬體和軟體進行改善工程，企業環保創新產品不斷出現。目前集團20條生產線，年產800萬台各式家用電器，暢銷美國、加拿大及歐盟、東南亞26個國家。"
  From Google Translate: "On 7 July a group of Hong Kong media reporters made a special trip to Bao'an, Shenzhen to visit the Shenzhen production base of Hong Kong Tunbow Group, which is famous in the industry for promoting "green production" and "green small home appliances". The group has invested more than HKD 30 million in hardware and software improvement projects to reduce production pollution, and innovative environmentally friendly products have continued to emerge. At present, the group has 20 production lines, with an annual output of 8 million units of various household appliances, which are sold well in the United States, Canada, the European Union, and 26 countries in Southeast Asia."
6. "東保集團董事總經理鄧美華東保集團積極開拓高技術高加值特色化的家電產品" [Tunbow Group Managing Director, Ms. Tan Meihua: Tunbow Group Actively Expanding High-Tech, High-Value, and Specialised Home Appliance Products]. Hong Kong Commercial Daily (in Chinese). 2018-12-19. p. AA10.
  The article notes: "身為本港知名企業，東保集團積極開拓高技術、高增值、特色化的家電產品，推出電子熨斗、強力蒸氣專業熨斗、電子蒸籠、濃湯機及全自動咖啡機。公司成立於1994年，與香港一同經歷風雨，亦一同成長。作為營商者為公司賺取利潤固然重要，但東保集團更有一份香港精神，與客戶共渡時艱，這更為可貴。"
  From Google Translate: "As a well-known enterprise in Hong Kong, Tunbow Group actively develops high-tech, high value-added and specialised home appliance products, launching electronic irons, powerful steam professional irons, electronic steamers, soup makers and fully automatic coffee machines. The company was established in 1994 and has experienced ups and downs together with Hong Kong and has grown together. As a businessman, it is important to make profits for the company, but Tunbow Group has more of a Hong Kong spirit and shares difficulties with its customers, which is even more valuable."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Tunbow Group (traditional Chinese: 東保集團; simplified Chinese: 东保集团) to pass Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria, which requires "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject".
Cunard (talk) 09:36, 29 December 2024 (UTC)

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Relisting comment: An additional review of new sources would be useful.
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Villagers Film Studio

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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. Indian media sources should be viewed carefully, as they often present press releases as news WP:RSNOI, WP:ROUTINE. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:35, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

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Keep - it shows the studio's importance with reliable sources and achievements --Kej Keir (talk) 08:26, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

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Osvaldo Gutierrez

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Page on an academic created as part of Wiki Education project, unfortunately with WP:NPROF being ignored. High citation area, so h-factor of 38 is fair but not yet passing #C1. He was recently promoted to full professor, no major awards and only WP:MILL mentions in minor science press -- WP:TOOSOON. (Unis have become quite good at promo for junior faculty.) Perhaps in a year or three it can be revived. Ldm1954 (talk) 13:14, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Gennady Degtyarev

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Page on an academic created directly in main after being declined once at AfC. Beyond an unsourced statement about creating new naval equipment, the only suggestion of notability is academic participation in D-SELF theory, a very low citation neologism created in 1989. Citations and awards don't pass WP:NPROF and there is nothing for general notability here or via a search. Ldm1954 (talk) 12:54, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Milenka Peña

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The journalist is not notable, with 90% of the information added lacking any sources. Cinder painter (talk) 12:13, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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John Neeson

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Fails to meet ANYBIO, not significant coverage. Blogs or slideshare-like sources only. Cinder painter (talk) 10:52, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete: Zero coverage found for this individual. Not sure what the "Demand Waterfall" is supposed to be, this does appear to be PROMO for the individual. Oaktree b (talk) 16:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Malcolm McDonald (academic)

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Extensive promotional content, marketing professor not notable according to Wikipedia:Notability (academics) Cinder painter (talk) 10:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete: per nom ~Darth Stabro^{Talk • Contribs} 16:51, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Martin Eisend

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Many publications and extensive promotional content, but likely not notable Wikipedia:Notability (academics) Cinder painter (talk) 10:46, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Drama Queen (manga)

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Fails WP:GNG, I've search "Drama Queen" on Google News which yield only non-RS sources such as WP:CBR even the ANN encyclopedia has no news on the manga. I search both Natalie, Oricon and Real Sound and even the Japanese title on Google News yield only non-RS and primary sources. (I search both "ドラマクイーン” and "ドラマクイン”) and even the romaji Dorama Kuin and still nothing. The article is also includes unreliable source involving ScreenRant and ComicBook.com (per WP:A&M/RS this should not be used in Controverial topic which is used in the article). Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 10:25, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Redirect to List of series run in Shōnen Jump+#2024 per nom; I looked for sources myself but couldn't find anything worth noting. While there are manga notable due to xenophobia like Manga Kenkanryu, this one doesn't seem to be notable quite yet. That being said, it also has yet to release a volume, so this may be a case of WP:TOOSOON too. Link20XX (talk) 15:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Commane

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The term "chiefdom of Commane" is not used anywhere it seems[3][4], none of the "notable figures" bear the name Commane. Basically, "Commane" is one of many names originating with the "Ó Comáin" root, but isn't a notable one and not the name of a "chiefdom" apparently either. Simply moving the page to a different title wouldn't solve these WP:OR or WP:V issues, e.g. the first source in the lead, "Sometimes incorrectly 'translated' to Hurley camán a hurly."[5] doesn't seem supported by that source either. Fram (talk) 09:49, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete Looks utterly unreliable as it is not backed up by the given sources. The Banner talk 10:00, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

You're not looking at the correct sources, writing a reply to this now Kellycrak88 (talk) 10:15, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback on the article. I would like to address the points raised:

Irish chiefdoms persisted over a long period in Thomond (Co. Clare) during the Middle Ages, partly due to the failure of the Vikings and Anglo-Normans to establish strongholds in the region. As we are discussing the early medieval period, when written records were sparse, scholars have to reconstruct the history through analysis of historical texts, place-names, archaeological excavations and comparative data. The sites of Tulach Commáin and Cahercommaun are physical archaeological locations, which further underline the chiefdom's significance.

The chiefdom of Tulach Commáin, centered on its capital at Cahercommaun, encompassed a territory of considerable importance, possibly spanning three residential sites and the Arran islands. Cahercommaun features a trivallate stone fort, serving as its political and ceremonial centre, a burial and inauguration site for chieftains at Tulach Commáin ('Mound of Commane'), and several associated monastic and ecclesiastical sites, underscoring its religious and administrative prominence in early medieval Ireland.

The primary sources for the Chiefdom of Commane include:

- Gibson, David Blair Ph.D. (1990). Tulach Commain: A view of an Irish chiefdom (500 pages on the subject), which has been referenced in several scholarly works, including Celtic Chiefdom, Celtic State, The Evolution of Complex Social Systems in Prehistoric Europe (1995)

- The Rulers of Tulach Commáin (Chapter Seven), From Chiefdom to State in Early Ireland, Cambridge University Press (2012)

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1. On the Spelling "Commane":

Notes on Irish Names and Spelling: The reader who is unacquainted with Irish culture, history, and language may experience confusion with Irish names due to their many variations in spelling and different names for the same thing, partly due to linguistic development of the Irish language, so the spelling of words and the names themselves vary greatly between texts, especially in the Middle Ages. The article already acknowledges this challenge, stating:

"The various spellings of Commane and its variants can largely be attributed to the lack of Standard Irish until 1948 and the historical practice of English-speaking officials transcribing Irish names phonetically, often based on how the names were pronounced."

Furthermore, the capital city of the chiefdom Cahercommaun is sometimes locally referred to as Caher Commane, (see: https://www.clarelibrary.ie/eolas/coclare/places/the_burren/cahercommane.htm) demonstrating that "Commane" is a primary anglicised variant by the people in the area of the original chiefdom. The Wikipedia article also cites Gibson's book, noting that it refers to "variant spellings throughout: Comáin, Commáin, Comain, etc (different spellings and names are common in Ireland)." This reflects the historically variable nature of Irish names and the necessity of choosing one variant for clarity in an English-language encyclopedia, consistent with Wikipedia's naming conventions for Irish surnames (e.g., O'Brien vs. Ó Briain).

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2. Historical Terminology:

While the spelling "chiefdom of Commane" does not explicitly appear in primary sources, it reflects the territorial and political structures documented in historical studies Tulach Commáin and Cahercommaun (same names, different spellings). Scholars such as D. Blair Gibson and James Frost describe Cahercommaun as a political and ceremonial centre in County Clare, serving as the chiefdom and seat of the sept in the 8th–9th centuries. "Commane" serves as the English variant for Commáin, and the usage of the name aligns with the historical anglicisation of Irish surnames.

If necessary, I am open to renaming "chiefdom of Commane" to "chiefdom of Tulach Commáin" to reflect the documented place-name and avoid ambiguity, even though this spelling was proposed by Gibson and he confesses to different spelling variants.

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3. Notable Figures:

It should also be noted that the person's original name and chief in the original gaelic would have been Comáin or Commáin (anglicised to Commane) as quoted in the article "as hereditary surnames in Ireland only began emerging between the 9th and 11th centuries" so the the sons would have been Mac or Ó "meaning" son of or "descendent".

The lineage does includes notable individuals such as:

Saint Commán of Roscommon, Saint and founder of Rosscommon a key figure in Irish ecclesiastical history.

Célechair mac Commáin, recorded in the Annals of Ulster and

Annals of Innisfallen, who was of the Eóganacht Uí Cormaic and died in the Battle of Corcmodruadh (704–705 A.D.).

Coman of Kinvara, Saint

Colmán mac Comán the second abbot listed in the Irish annals

Variants such as "Ó Comáin," "Commáin," and "Comáin" are consistently tied to the same lineage, which historical sources document as playing a significant role in Munster's early medieval socio-political landscape.

In 1052 AD there is a mention of spelling Comman in the Irish annals Part 15 of the Annals of the Four Masters.

In the sourced Early Bearers and Historical Records section it clears shows from the off shoots from Ó Comáin:

Laerunce Commane, 1796 in Flaxgrowers List (Ross, Cork);

Maurice O Koman, yeoman, and son Rory O Coman, 1573 in Fiants Elizabeth §2251 (Kanturk, Cork); Note spellings

These variations are consistent with historical naming practices, as highlighted in genealogical studies and sources like the Dubhaltach Mac Fhirbhisigh's 17th-century genealogical compilation, Leabhar Mór na nGenealach (The Great Book of Irish Genealogies), a key source for tracing Irish lineages.

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4. Sometimes incorrectly 'translated' to Hurley camán a hurly

Yes, my mistake, I added the wrong source reference to the article for this, which I've now updated.

The words Camán and Comán are linguistically different, none of the Commane variants start with Cam, therefore some sources are incorrectly claim the name is linked to Hurley.

Here is a source to the contrary stating it's a mistranslation.

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4. Verifiability and Sources:

The article incorporates referenced material from primary and secondary sources, including works by historians like Frost, Gibson, and O'Hart, alongside primary annals. The references also highlight the historical prominence of the Chiefdom of Commane (Tulach Commáin and Cahercommaun).

If further clarity is needed, do let me know. In the meantime I will refine the language or include additional references to bolster the article’s verifiability.

I hope this response clarifies the rationale behind the article's naming and content. Please let me know if there are further adjustments you'd like to see.

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At the footer of the page other sources are noted:

"Annals of Innisfallen." CELT Project. University College Cork. | "Annals of Ulster." CELT Project. University College Cork. | "The History and Topography of the County of Clare." Frost, James. Internet Archive. | "Corpus Genealogiarum Hiberniae." O'Brien, M. A. Dublin Institute for Advanced Studies. | "Irish Kings and High-Kings." Byrne, F. J. Four Courts Press. | "Irish Pedigrees: Or, The Origin and Stem of the Irish Nation." O'Hart, John. M.H. Gill & Son. | "Leabhar Mór na nGenealach." Mac Fhirbhisigh, Dubhaltach. Edited by Nollaig Ó Muraíle. De Búrca Rare Books. | "Cahercommaun Triple Ring Fort." Academia.edu. Academia.edu. | "CELT: The Corpus of Electronic Texts." CELT Project. University College Cork. | "Cahercommaun Triple Ring Fort." Academia.edu. Academia.edu | "Discover Cahercommaun with Archaeologist, Michael Lynch." Burrenbeo. Burrenbeo | "Early Medieval Ireland, AD 400-1100: The Evidence from Archaeological Excavations." Academia.edu. Academia.edu | "Picture Perfect: Using Drone Technology and Photogrammetry Techniques to Map the Western Stone Forts of Ireland." Academia.edu. Academia.edu Kellycrak88 (talk) 13:16, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Lots of words to say very little, it seems. No idea why this is at Commane and not at e.g. "Ó Comáin", unless it is because you have some COI with the Commane family you added to Newhall House and Estate or something similar. Nothing you state above contradicts that there is no reliable source about the "Chiefdom of Commane", or that none of the notable persons you listed are called "Commane" (you listed some rather random persons with the name, no one disputes that the name exists). Fram (talk) 13:47, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Fram, I’m honestly just trying my best to address each of your points thoughtfully. To clarify, my "COI" is that I live in Clare and my surname is Hurley, which often gets incorrectly linked to Commane, a widely recognised surname here. The reference to "Commane" was chosen because it’s the most anglicised form of "Ó Comáin," aligning with the context of an English-language encyclopedia. For example, Wikipedia uses "O'Brien" instead of "Ó Briain," consistent with its naming conventions for Irish surnames. While "Ó Comáin" would be more appropriate for the Irish-language version of Wikipedia, it doesn’t mean the history of the name or its variants is unnotable simply because "Ó Comáin" lacks extensive individual articles. I’d really appreciate it if you could take another look at Section 1 of my response, where I’ve outlined the historical and archaeological basis for the "Chiefdom of Commane" and its connection to Clare. That said, I’m open to collaboration and willing to move the article to "Ó Comáin" if there’s a consensus that it’s more appropriate. My main goal here is to preserve the effort I’ve put into the article, as the the sources are valid, and I’d prefer not to see it deleted. If there are specific concerns you feel remain unresolved, I’m happy to discuss them further and make adjustments. I’m just trying to contribute something meaningful here. Kellycrak88 (talk) 15:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

As long as you insist on using "Chiefdom of Commane" when not a single reliable source uses this, I have no interest in even looking at what else you state. Your article seems like a coatrack of everything loosely related to the name, from a long section on a clan or chiefdom to a list of non-notable people named Commane or Comman and a list of notable people not named Commane, and so on. "The reference to "Commane" was chosen because it’s the most anglicised form of "Ó Comáin," aligning with the context of an English-language encyclopedia." Not according to "The Oxford Dictionary of Family Names of Ireland", which doesn't even give Commane a separate entry (or even a "see at" reference), but mentions it once under the entry for Cummins[6], which you are well aware off, since you copied the whole section "Early bearers and historical records" literally from that source. Do I really need to restart the proposal at WP:ANI, considering that the previous problems all seem to persist? @Asilvering: has there been any attempt to get the mentoring or feedback which was supposed to happen after that previous discussion? Fram (talk) 15:53, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

a broad range of sources are on the page, like this:[7] Kellycrak88 (talk) 16:04, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

That source doesn't state that Commane is the standard anglicization either, it seems... Fram (talk) 16:36, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

No communication since, no. -- asilvering (talk) 16:47, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

@Fram, as far as I’m aware, it is not a copyright violation to include a list of names from a source, they help prove root of name. Reporting me (again) unjustly to administrators (whose prior review did not result in any action against me) without fully engaging with my responses is not constructive and only creates unnecessary tension. I have taken the time to address all of your concerns and provide balanced explanations, supported by credible sources. However, your unwillingness to read my response and now your presentation of a false narrative is both unfair and unproductive. I remain committed to improving this article collaboratively. However, given your history of targeting me, I believe it would be more constructive for a third party or another editor to engage with me on this matter instead of yourself. Kellycrak88 (talk) 16:49, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

@Fram I’d also like to kindly ask you to carefully re-read Section 2 of my response, where I state that I am open to renaming "chiefdom of Commane" to "chiefdom of Tulach Commáin." Thank you for your consideration. Kellycrak88 (talk) 15:55, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

@Fram as you've stated you're not reading my responses, Tulach Commáin means in english "The Mound of Commane". I am happy to renaming it to the Gaelic. Kellycrak88 (talk) 16:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

No it doesn't. You are the only one ever to use "The Mound of Commane", in two Wikipedia articles. Reliable sources almost invariably use the Irish name (which is a recent invention anyway), not some translation, and one source uses "The Burial Mound of Commán". Fram (talk) 16:35, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

You're welcome to buy the 500 page book (available in PDF) and review the source material for yourself:[8] Kellycrak88 (talk) 16:51, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

This [9] is the much more recent book by that scholar, not his PhD thesis, and that book uses "The Burial Mound of Commán" (once) or the Irish name, not "Commane". The term Commane does not appear in that book. Fram (talk) 16:56, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Please read the quote you just linked to it says Tulach Comma (The [burial] Mound of Comman) notice "burial" is in brackets meaning optional and it's referred to else where without burial. The whole point of my wikipedia article is variations of the name. The same author uses Comáin, Commáin, Comain, interchangeable variants throughout the book and gives an explanation for why which I tried to do on the wikipedia page, it's the same name, I appreciate that's a strange concept from an English perspective.

I have both this book and the PhD thesis which is way more thorough and academic but yes similar.

In the PhD version he calls Tulach Commáin - the latest book version it's Tulach Comman -- same author and name Kellycrak88 (talk) 17:10, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

The reference to "Commane" was chosen because it’s the most anglicised form of "Ó Comáin" - really? I'm living in Ireland all of my life, and I have never once heard the name, until today. "Cummins" is the usual translation to English of all of the various forms of the surname listed in the article. Bastun^{Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ!} 17:09, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

it's predominantly in Muster / Clare (in the area of the original chiefdom) Kellycrak88 (talk) 17:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Asia Pacific Center for Theoretical Physics

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This international non-governmental research institute for physical sciences fails to meet NCORP and is full of Original research. BoraVoro (talk) 09:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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2000 Swiss Figure Skating Championships

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I am also nominating the following related pages:

Non-notable figure skating competition. Recommend deletion or redirect to Swiss Figure Skating Championships. Bgsu98 (Talk) 09:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Here is my problem with these stand-alone articles. All four disciplines are often not contested. There are often not enough competitors to award a bronze medal, and in some cases, even a silver medal. Many of these competitions featured no more than two or three participants. And most of the competitors who are listed are redlinked or unlinked (ie. themselves not notable). The competition results and scores are included (or should be included) on a skaters' individual article. The medal results are included on the parent article (in this case, Swiss Figure Skating Championships). But these nations with small national championships are just not worth trying to maintain individual articles for each competition. Bgsu98 (Talk) 09:29, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete all per nomination. No sources or in-depth coverage for over a decade since creation. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 14:58, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Redirect all per nom. No sigcov. Reasonable search term. Frank Anchor 15:31, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Rajkumar Periasamy

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Promotional and not important (notable) Indian film director. Nq Wisit (talk) 09:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep: Poor nomination rationale. To start with, if you could mention which sentence is promotional in this article, it would probably take a minute or two to fix it in an article of this size. There is literally nothing promotional in the article, though. WP:DIRECTOR#3 is met here, as Rajkumar Periasamy has created significant or well-known work, or a collective body of work, i.e., Rangoon (2017 Tamil film) and Amaran (2024 film), both of which are the primary subjects of multiple independent reviews. Jeraxmoira🐉 (talk) 10:26, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Source	Reliable?	Significant coverage?	Count source toward GNG?
https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/tamil/rajkumar-periasamy-kamal-haasan-sir-was-the-one-who-thought-sivakarthikeyan-would-be-perfect-for-amaran-9175103/	Indian Express is consider RS	Though, Paywalled, by the first bits, it is already passes	✔ Yes
https://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/movies/rajkumar-periasamy-on-sivakarthikeyans-transformation-for-amaran/article68810204.ece	The Hindu is reliable	Article is about him	✔ Yes
https://indianexpress.com/article/entertainment/tamil/dhanush-to-collaborate-with-amaran-director-rajkumar-periasamy-in-d55-9659912/	Indian Express is consider RS	Paywalled but base on the title and the first paragraph I can tell this article has already SigCov	✔ Yes
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Keep base on the assessment above and Deletion is not clean up Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 11:25, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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Keep: Passes NDIRECTOR through Rangoon and Amaran. Somebodyidkfkdt (talk) 12:46, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Mrinmoy Bhowmick

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Promotional and not important (notable) Indian film director. Nq Wisit (talk) 09:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete: I've checked its sources, and although I tried to fix one dead link, most of them are still dead. Additionally, his name is hardly searchable on Google. Aona1212 (talk) 12:33, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Boo Chanco

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Not notable journalist, no achievements or reliable sources to meet ANYBIO BoraVoro (talk) 08:55, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

On the notability issue, I did mention at least two achievements of the journalist -- winning his alma mater UP's award meant for good journalists like him, and getting another from Rotary Club of Manila for his worthy, hard-hitting opinions. I also mentioned reliable sources thereof. Please reconsider and/or help improve the article. Some Wikipedia articles, in fact, mentioned his name and his thoughts on issues in the Philippines. Dcalviar2 (talk) 09:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Note: I tagged this page per CSD G12 per the copy vio here. ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:43, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Black Opium (perfume)

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The perfume looks like non-notable and I did not locate any outstanding or independent reliable sources. BoraVoro (talk) 08:51, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

as an alternative it could be redirected here Opium (perfume) BoraVoro (talk) 08:52, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Matthias Bleyer

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Non-notable figure skater; PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 08:32, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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- Delete A couple of mentions but not SIGCOV. Wikipedia.de no help either.Canary757 (talk) 12:21, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete: I agree with @Canary757. Most sources found on Google are merely passing mentions, with nothing indicating significant coverage. The same goes with his partner Nicole Nönnig.Aona1212 (talk) 12:50, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Nicole Nönnig

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Non-notable figure skater; PROD removed. Bgsu98 (Talk) 08:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete: Found several mentions, but none with significant coverage. Aona1212 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 12:55, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Silvia Dimitrov

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Non-notable figure skater. Bgsu98 (Talk) 08:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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CarBone (company)

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Highly doubt it's ready for Wikipedia and has enough RS. Company's cars Criollo and Tardza have been removed via AfD last year. Taking off shortly (talk) 08:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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RBC Direct Investing

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Not meeting NCORP, no reliable media coverage. Taking off shortly (talk) 08:24, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Jens ter Laak

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Non-notable figure skater. Bgsu98 (Talk) 08:22, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Osman Boyner

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The person is not notable as it lacks sufficient independent media coverage, not connected to the subject and with the proper depth Taking off shortly (talk) 08:09, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Abu Zakaria al-Jamal

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Does not meet WP:GNG. Even the killing of al-Jamal doesn't meet GNG (if it did, this article would still fail under WP:BLP1E). VR _{(Please ping on reply)} 08:07, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete per WP:BLP1E. He is (maybe) notable only for his death which is against WP:BLP1E and WP:NOTMEMORIAL. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 11:32, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Genki Ishisaka

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Previously deleted at AFD. Doesn't meet WP:SPORTCRIT or WP:GNG this time either. Japanese Wikipedia only contains primary sources, a squad list and a blog piece. Creator is globally locked. Geschichte (talk) 08:05, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 14:16, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

John B. Lee

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WP:BLP of a writer, not properly sourced as passing WP:AUTHOR. As always, writers are not automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they exist, and have to show certain specific markers of achievement supported by WP:GNG-worthy third-party coverage about them in media and books -- but this article is completely unreferenced, and is not making any strong notability claims.
The main attempts at notability claims are that he's been municipal poet laureate of a small city, which isn't an automatic notability freebie without sourcing for it, and that he's been a recipient of various minor and/or unspecified literary awards that aren't highly prominent enough to confer instant inclusion freebies without sourcing for them. An award has to be notable in its own right before it can make its winners notable for winning it, so notability doesn't derive from the presence of the word "award" (or sticking the word "prestigious" in front of it) in the article text, it derives from the quality of the sourcing you can show to demonstrate that the award is a sufficiently notable and/or prestigious one in the first place.
Nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to pass GNG on his sourcing. Bearcat (talk) 14:15, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

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Pir (Alevism)

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Tagged many years ago as unsourced this does not seem notable enough to need a separate article. No objection to merging but I don’t know which other article would be most suitable. Chidgk1 (talk) 12:58, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

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Lecoanet Hemant

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Century Textile and Industries

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Repro India

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RNB Research

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Fails WP:NCORP and WP:CORPDEPTH. Media sources are either dead links or have no mentions at all. They should be reviewed carefully once again. TC-BT-1C-SI (talk) 09:42, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

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Niyogi Books

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Nectar Lifesciences

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Lakshmi Machine Works

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Suara Hidayatullah

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'Keep the sources should be added. I found some that are behind a paywall and hope there is a way to include them, along with any others. --Taking off shortly (talk) 08:29, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
@Taking off shortly: Please show us what you find to help us determine if it counts for GNG Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 11:34, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
@Taking off shortly: Please feel free to add the sources you’ve found, even if they are behind a paywall, as long as they meet the criteria for WP:RS. Without these additions, the article may face deletion due to insufficient evidence of notability.–𝐎𝐰𝐚𝐢𝐬 𝐀𝐥 𝐐𝐚𝐫𝐧𝐢 ʕʘ̅͜ʘ̅ʔ 16:57, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Risala Weekly

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Untitled Web Series About a Space Traveler Who Can Also Travel Through Time

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Has a lot of sources but nothing particurly in depth. Most nothing beyond basic release info, plot recap and casting info fails WP:NTV Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 03:18, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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Keep: as there is sufficient coverage in reliable sources, including one page in Playing Fans: Negotiating Fandom and Media in the Digital Age and one paragraph in The Last Pirate's History of Doctor Who... -Mushy Yank. 09:12, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
There is also a 13-page paper dedicated to the series https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15405702.2013.779505; see also https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15405702.2013.779505. Please kindly consider withdrawing this nomination as your concern seems addressed. @OlifanofmrTennant. Thank you very much. -Mushy Yank. 09:22, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
Worth noting that the book Playing Fans reuses large portions of the paper, as confirmed by the book's acknowledgements (and a quick skimming of both sources – the paper can be viewed through Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library), so they're basically a single source. And the mention in The Last Pirate's History is a brief mention in a long list, so I wouldn't call that mention significant. Other sources in the article may contribute to notability as well, but these by themselves aren't enough. RunningTiger123 (talk) 04:16, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
I would say they are. But if you want, feel free to add Broadcast in the U.S.: Foreign TV Series Brought to America, p. 232-233. And https://collider.com/community-inspector-spacetime/ And http://braindamaged.fr/20/11/2012/web-serie-zone-inspector-spacetime/ And https://geeksofdoom.com/2014/03/12/inspector-spacetimes-untitled-web-series-needs-help-make-inspector-chronicles-movie And so on. No further comments. Still inviting the nominator to withdraw. -Mushy Yank. 12:24, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Why is Geeks of Doom reliable? And most of these are talking about the gag itself which is not up for deletion. The Collider source talks about it at the very end with nothing beyond "this cool thing happened and there was no season 2" Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 19:36, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
Did you open the books? Read the papers? Check other existing sources? -Mushy Yank. 22:20, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

"And most of these are talking about the gag itself which is not up for deletion."=No, most of the sources I mention talk about the web series which you took for deletion, and some are "particurly in depth." So your concern that "Most nothing beyond basic release info, plot recap and casting info fails WP:NTV" seems totally addressed (if a page can "fail" an essay, btw). https://www.vulture.com/2012/09/not-inspector-spacetime.html (limited) https://comicbook.com/comicbook/news/communitys-inspector-spacetime-launches-his-own-untitled-webseries/ (for the history of the production) and so on. https://filmschoolrejects.com/the-inspector-chronicles-is-the-doctor-who-spoof-movie-sorta-spun-off-from-community-e844667fd8e7/ It meets the general requirements for notability even if it's only with the dedicated article and 2 of the books. Feel free to add the sources you like best to the page. Thank you. -Mushy Yank. 22:36, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Erratum: in my first reply to myself I linked twice the same paper; the second paper I intended to link was: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1461444814558907 -Mushy Yank. 12:29, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
(noting for anyone who can't view the article through TWL) This is another article by the same author, Paul Booth. Per WP:GNG, a series of publications by the same author or in the same periodical is normally counted as one source. It's also a pretty brief mention, with only one paragraph about it in a much larger paper about a broader topic. RunningTiger123 (talk) 01:13, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
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HiveColab

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Fails WP:NCORP. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Imcdc Contact 06:33, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

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Keep: Under Hive Colab there are multiple sources that support notability, see New Vision, Independent, AsiaTechDaily, Nile Post, Pctechmag, and BBC FuzzyMagma (talk) 17:40, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- There are multiple sources but after looking at them, I do not feel comfortable using these to establish notability. My initial comment is the article is about HiveColab while the focus on a lot of these articles is about YSAU (Youth Startup Academy Uganda) which is one of the accelerator programs under it. Per WP:NOTINHERITED while they are related, we cannot use the program alone to cover for the organization above it and HiveColab should be able to stand by itself. Also something irking me is how promotional the whole thing seems. I see mention of co-founder Barbara Birungi and judging by the state of her article, it feels like there is some PR campaign being held for her (and possibly her firm) on the internet. Anyway:
  - New Vision: There seems to be a related press release for this here. This is reporting on a ceremony for YSAU, a program under Hive Collab rather than Hive Collab itself. Half of it are just promotional quotes by related parties. If you look at the remaining content, most of it looks very similar to the press release. Edit: ITC states it is involved in implementing YSAU so it’s a related party. The press release from Hive Collab is here which has similar wording content.
  - Independent: First thing I noticed is this article is not authored to an individual. There's another site with the exact same content here so I’m wondering if this is just a form of a press release. The focus is on Ugandan startups signing deals at Gitex in Morocco. The focus is not on Hive Collab but the entrepreneurs under it. The latter half of the article can be ignored since not about Hive Collab. So taking out the quotes, its pretty much a non-notable entity named Dain Leaders Corporation signing an MOU with Hive Collab and the supposed benefits in a press release manner.
  - AsiaTechDaily: Non-notable entity GCCEI signs an MOU with Hive Collab. That's kinda it. While it is authored, it seems like a regurgitated press release of a routine deal given how short it is and the language used.
  - NilePost: This one does seem to be more than a press release (I think). But in my view looking at it, the main focus is on YSAU companies attending Gitex in Morocco with a chance to show themselves. There doesn’t seem to be much analysis on Hive Collab itself. Edit: Here is the original press release, the 15 YSAU startups are directly copied so the source is now much weaker.
  - PC Tech: There seems to be a related press release (or update as called) for this here. This article is not authored to an individual. Another ceremony of people from YSAU graduating. Large chunks of it are just kinda copied from the press release.
  - BBC: Very brief mention of Hive Collab and in fact seems to be more on Barbara Birungi herself.
- So looking at all of them, they fail WP:SIRS in my view. To save time just give the best three independent in-depth sources going forward. - Imcdc Contact 05:25, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
  You should be clear when you say a press release to indicate how did you come to that conclusion.
  
  All of what you labelled as a “press release” is either not a press release by the organisation, see New Vision or is not one at all, see Nile Post. And I am not sure who did you dismiss the mention by the BBC. This organisation is not in Global West, it is in Uganda and still mentioned by the BBC. FuzzyMagma (talk) 09:55, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
  FYI, I have updated the above analysis.
  
  See WP:PRSOURCE. A press release doesn’t need to directly come from Hive Colab. It can come from an affiliated party. We know ITC is affiliated because it itself says the YSAU is implemented by ITC, Hive Collab and several other parties. So no independence there. WP:PRSOURCE also mentions how less reputable news sources will write an article based on a press release which we are seeing here in examples of churnalism. Btw I have found some of the press releases by Hive Collab and updated above based on it. For example we can see now that Nile Post has indeed copied a chunk out of a press release.- Imcdc Contact 12:25, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Mention in books:
- The Bright Continent published by Houghton Mifflin Harcourt.
- Digital Divides published by Taylor & Francis.
- Innovate for agriculture published by CTA.
- Empowering African Women Entrepreneurs in the Fashion Industry published by Springer International.
- Citizen-Driven Innovation published by the World Bank.
- UNESCO Science Report published by UNESCO.
- Disruptive Technologies, Innovation and Development in Africa published by Springer International.
- Africa’s Development Dynamics 2021 published by the African Union.
FuzzyMagma (talk) 10:20, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
I'm not sure if its because Google Books is cutting off my access to see the whole thing, but almost everything seems to be a very short mention. A lof seem to be just something like this: ilab (Liberia), Hive Collab (Uganda), Etrilabs (Benin)... and thats it. The only one that offers more is the UNESCO one. But its just one short section giving very general (and sort of generic) description of Hive Collab. I don't think this is enough to meet WP:SIGCOV for an WP:NCORP subject. Imcdc Contact 11:25, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Yes all of them are mentions and not a dedicated chapter or even a whole page in the book. I will add the full excerpt later as most of them are not as you described.

Still, given it was mentioned in all of these sources (books/News) = coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. Whether you consider that satisfy the “significant” part or not, I will leave it to you. I am of the opinion of keeping the article.

Also your comment about the BBC source is unfair, as Barbara Birungi was talking about HiveColab, quoting “"It's not about strict business. It's also about coming here to share your ideas, and collaborate. Because out of sharing and collaborating come ideas," says Ms Birungi. The Hive CoLab was opened to give the technology scene in Uganda a space that they could call their own and come and collaborate, says Barbara Birungi. "Apart from just offering them a space we see how we can take an idea to the next level. Because many startups fail within the first two years of existence."” FuzzyMagma (talk) 22:00, 4 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete: Lacks sustained notability over years. For example I could not find any notable and independent coverage between Jan 1, 2015 – Jan 5, 2019 XwycP3 (talk) 18:15, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
@XwycP3 that is not a policy. Coverage does not need to be "sustained"! by the same token, we should delete many articles because you cannot find a coverage about them between Jan 1, 2015 – Jan 5, 2019 FuzzyMagma (talk) 18:28, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
The article's coverage is from 2013 and I wanted to see if it lacked coverage after that due to it not existing or simply not have being added to the article. Wikipedia:Notability: "Brief bursts of news coverage may not sufficiently demonstrate notability. However, sustained coverage is an indicator of notability". When I extend the search to today, the result is the same. XwycP3 (talk) 20:00, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Quoting the sentence just above what you quoted from Wikipedia:Notability: “Notability is not temporary; once a topic has been the subject of "significant coverage" in accordance with the general notability guideline, it does not need to have ongoing coverage.” + The sources just above your comment are from that period. FuzzyMagma (talk) 23:32, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

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Gaudreau brothers cycling incident

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WP:REDUNDANTFORK of Johnny Gaudreau#Death. The Kip ^(contribs) 06:33, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete per nom, the Johnny Gaudreau article already covers the incident in enough detail, no need for a stand alone article. - Epluribusunumyall (talk) 08:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Redirect to Johnny Gaudreau#Death per nom. The main article has more detail than this one Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 11:37, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Redirect to Johnny Gaudreau#Death: Per nom, there is no reason for a WP:REDUNDANTFORK. Let'srun (talk) 14:24, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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Abayima

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Fails WP:NORG. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Imcdc Contact 06:31, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

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~~Delete~~Merge with Jon Gosier: Plenty of sources, but no sustained coverage. All the coverage is in the context of their "Open SIM Kit" after they got funding from the Knight News Challenge in January 2013, but it seems like the project fizzled out pretty quickly. Most coverage is from January. The latest source I could find was from August 2013. This source is a trade publication, which should be given less weight due to WP:TRADES. Their GitHub repo was last updated in September 2013. Helpful Raccoon (talk) 08:15, 30 December 2024 (UTC)
Soft Delete : Fails WP:ORG and lacks SIGCOV.Gauravs 51 (talk)

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Izin Akioya

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The subject does not seem notable enough to meets WP:GNG or WP:SNG as there's limited information about her achievement or works. Ednabrenze (talk) 06:24, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete: Absolutely nothing makes this pass WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO or WP:BASIC. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 06:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete: Does not pass any notability Ibjaja055 (talk) 07:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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Delete - Promotional crap. She doesn't meet WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO or WP:BASIC and her companies and book aren't notable.Ynsfial (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 09:15, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Indie Source

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It fails WP:CORP and its features in 1 episode of Music Moguls or in Forbes 30 Under 30 in Manufacturing in 2018 and Apparel Magazine's Top Under-30 Elite in 2018 aren't enough for notability Ynsfial (talk) 06:19, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Cynthia_Akanga

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I believe Cynthia_Akanga fails the WP:GNG criteria. Person has brief bios on both linkedin and imdb but very little independent coverage. SallyRenee (talk) 05:57, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

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Delete: could not find any reliable source to establish notability most sources are primary and IMDb FuzzyMagma (talk) 17:54, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
Keep: I believe the relevant guideline is WP:ENTERTAINER. It says that the person may be considered notable if the person has had significant roles in multiple television shows or stage performances. Akanga has had multiple roles, two to be exact: a stage performance and a role in a television show. Wikipedia does not have a lot of articles about Togolese women. Conscious of the WP:Systemic bias, I vote keep. Ruud Buitelaar (talk) 03:54, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
can you share the source(s) for these performances?

In general, WP:ENTERTAINER does not override WP:BASIC. FuzzyMagma (talk) 18:37, 5 January 2025 (UTC)
Keep per Ruud Buitelaar and per WP:ENT. She had significant roles in multiple notable productions. – Anne drew (talk · contribs) 04:12, 3 January 2025 (UTC)
She had an appearance on a podcast and was a substitute jury for an obscure show. What notable productions? FuzzyMagma (talk) 18:41, 5 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete: The French sources are the same as the ones used here, only confirming she was a judge on a TV show, not unlike American Idol is. I don't think that's enough for notability. They are simple "meet the celebrity" articles. Oaktree b (talk) 17:00, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

MediaWiki version history

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This article has absolutely no reason to exist. It's an unsourced duplicate of mw:Release notes and mw:Version lifecycle. The "notable changes" column is entirely original research. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 05:20, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete per WP:NOTCHANGELOG. ~ A412 ^talk! 08:11, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete per WP:NOTCHANGELOG Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 11:39, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete: WP:NOTCHANGELOG. Those looking for the release history can just visit MediaWiki. Schützenpanzer (Talk) 15:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

India naming dispute

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There are various disputes over this name and have been sufficiently covered with Names of India.

This subject fails WP:GNG on its own and article is just an expansion of a POV and involves use of mostly unreliable sources. - Ratnahastin (talk) 05:06, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Leaning towards Merge with Names of India. The article looks like a WP:POVFORK but it has possibility. Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 11:45, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Necrofauna

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This page is horribly outdated and has not been updated since 2017 outside of bot edits. It still treats de-extinction as a far future hypothetical event when there have been numerous successful de-extinctions since then such as the Judean date palm, tsori, aurochs, Montreal melon, and Floreana giant tortoise. The term is also not widely used outside of one book, and everything discussed on the page is mentioned on or can be mentioned on the main de-extinction page. Edelgardvonhresvelg (talk) 04:44, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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I was going to suggest keep because the subject is notable, but since the article at De-extinction basically covers the same ground and is much better, I'd have no objection to converting Necrofauna to a redirect to De-extinction. We wouldn't really even need necrofauna were it not for the book. Elemimele (talk) 11:21, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete Since citation 8 is (embarassingly) the only one of the 8 sources that even mentions the term (and then in passing), I don't see the need for even a redirect. Reywas92^Talk 16:20, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Personal wiki

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This is a WP:REDUNDANTFORK of List of wiki software with no useful salvageable value.

The section "Multi-user wiki software" lacks any useful inclusion criterion - MediaWiki (the software that this wiki runs on) does not have a "personal edition" in any reasonable sense. Yes, it's configurable enough you can use it for a lot of things, but the standard for when that would be would be entirely arbitrary. Most of the remaining entries do not have any mention of personal wikis in their article.

The section "Single-user wiki software" is almost entirely duplicated at List of wiki software#Personal wiki software.

The rest of this article is just a trivial definition of the concept - "a personal wiki is a wiki for personal use". And that's it. Delete or redirect to List of wiki software#Personal wiki software (since an individual instance of a personal wiki is by definition a complete nonentity with no existence outside of that of its sole user the software is the only significant bit). * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 04:54, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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There is probably broader cleanup work needed in the broader area of: Personal wiki, Personal information manager, Personal knowledge base, Personal knowledge management, and the inevitable Digital garden. Presumably some or all of these are the same concept with terminology changing over time. Brandon (talk) 17:11, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Avani Soni

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The actor is not notable. Most of the sources in the article are promotional/PR sources. The consensus on previous AfD was delete because it was non-notable and created by PR agency. Coderzombie (talk) 04:06, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete - She has nothing to pass WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO or WP:NACTOR. Casting and special thanks credits are not acting or directing credits and her cameo is insignificant.Ynsfial (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 09:20, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Savannah Smith

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Non-notable former college basketball player (only appeared to play off the bench for ~3 seasons). Fails WP:GNG as notability WP:NOTINHERITED from Chris Christian (father). Epluribusunumyall (talk) 03:59, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete Fails WP:GNG due to lack of significant coverage. Was unable to find anything of significance during a search og Google and Newspapers.com. Her basketball career doesn't indicate any likelihood of her having received any significant coverage. Alvaldi (talk) 10:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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Arsenal Women 2–3 Wolfsburg Women

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The subject of this article does not meet WP:NSPORTSEVENT (the specific notability guideline for a single match) nor any general notability guidelines. This is because it is not an individually notable match in itself, as just one of a series of knockout games in regular competition, and because it does not appear to have much media coverage that is not WP:ROUTINE. It therefore does not meet any of the four criteria for NSPORTSEVENT, and the lack of non-primary sourcing prevents it from meeting GNG. Kingsif (talk) 03:31, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep. Still holds the record as the match with the biggest attendance in women's club football on English soil. I added some non-routine coverage. --Lyndis Parlour (talk) 06:46, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

@Lyndis Parlour: The sources you have linked (without actually adding any article content, just the sources) are, top to bottom: a non-RS that is a player interview mentioning the game in passing (see SIGCOV), an Arsenal fan blog than lauds the game's attendance (see SPS), and a simple list of match attendance figures (see DATABASE). None of these are suitable for use in the article (which I think you actually know, just putting them in as external links), let alone establishing notability. Kingsif (talk) 08:00, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Delete as nominator. I was waiting for someone to try and present notability-establishing sources; the article's advocate has made an attempt but seems to know they can't. Kingsif (talk) 07:58, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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This match is very notable and represents a historic moment in the history of women's football in England. This is also reflected in the links and references provided with the article that comment from a range of reputable sources. The article was written to detail the history and to provide information about the game both from UEFA, media outlets and players to provide historical context to the events that occurred. I have now added even more links. This game is far more significant than any standard game of football and any consideration that is isn't suggests that that person is not well informed on women's football - a chronically underreported sport and poorly represented on Wikipedia. Which of the reference sources from itv, ESPN, the Guardian, the New York Times, and BBC sport aren't considered notable by @Kingsif? As noted in this "Some games or series are likely or almost certain to be considered notable, including but not limited to the following:" the list given are just examples. In the history of Women's football, this game is a match of note. The coverage alone makes that clear. The quotes from the players about the match also made that clear but they were deleted from the article. Notability is often so subjective with articles on this platform and too many people have an agenda to devalue perfectly notable articles because of their subject matter. Perhaps @Kingsif is not familiar with what is considered routine coverage at this point in time in the women's game to note the difference. Evmoon (talk) 16:15, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Puppy love

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As noted in a message on the page, 'This article is written like a personal reflection, personal essay, or argumentative essay that states a Wikipedia editor's personal feelings or presents an original argument about a topic.' The article contains a non-dictionary definition and characteristics of puppy love, a sub-article on puppy love in China related to China's marriage age laws, and statistics which do not mention puppy love of Taiwan, China and the United States. Though the article has existed for a long time, it is still rated as 'Start-class' on Wikipedia's content assessment scale (see the Talk page). The article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignemnt between 24 January 2023 and 19 May 2023, and yet is still rated as a 'Start-class'. There was a requested move on 9 February 2023. The article is not encyclopedic in nature, and is minimally informative, I'd recommend deleting it. Re34646 (talk) 03:29, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Andrew Heiberger

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Not seeing genuine evidence of notability per WP:GNG or WP:NBIO. A couple of brief interviews, but the rest are PR, non-independent, or passing mentions. Seems like a run of the mill businessman. —Ganesha811 (talk) 03:29, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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I'd agree, a non-notable person. Re34646 (talk) 03:35, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Agree with deletion, the most notability-instilling source cited is a NYT "30-minute interview" but that was part of a series of short interviews of "prominent developers, brokers, property managers and builders in New York commercial real estate", which is a specifically narrow scope and to me does not indicate that the subjects of those interviews are necessarily notable enough for WP:GNG (and is maybe even borderline non-WP:IS). Jokullmusic 05:11, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Agree with deletion. This person is not notable. I would also add that it seems likely this page was originally created by Andrew himself (or a friend) as the only contributions by the original user are related to Andrew Heiberger. WP:AUTO https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Special:Contributions/Craycraytevana — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiWingsuit (talk • contribs) 07:44, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Delete -- probably self-created promotional page, subject fails notability criteria, only main space links to the page are List of University of Michigan alumni, List of University of Michigan business alumni, List of University of Miami School of Law alumni. BabelStone (talk) 11:28, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Comment there were a number of social media posts today tying the article subject to a person who complained about New York congestion pricing. See, e.g.,[10]. No idea if this will get any news coverage (not saying it should). Oblivy (talk) 13:29, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete Do not believe he's notable enough to meet WP:GNG. Ueutyi (talk) 14:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Benedikt Johannes Hofer

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Non-notable person. None of the sources are reliable (tiiny.site is user-generated), and I found no reliable sources online. '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 03:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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delete: previously deleted via Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gaming Benni; doesn't this qualify for some speedy deletion criterion? Nyamo Kurosawa (talk) 12:21, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Jake Lent-Koop

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Cannot find any WP:SIGCOV on this player. Everything that comes up, both in searches and in the references, is either WP:LOCAL or databases/signing announcements. Appears to fail WP:GNG. Anwegmann (talk) 03:13, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Anti-Taiwanese sentiment

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Insufficient WP:RS here to merit a stand-alone article Amigao (talk) 03:06, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Advanced Technology Development Center

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Fails WP:NCORP. Insufficient independent in-depth sources to establish notability. Imcdc Contact 02:07, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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Weak keep: I found two independent sources ([11], [12]) and added them to the article, but I'm not sure about reliability and the first one seems pretty promotional. I'd be more confident if someone could find another piece of coverage that isn't connected to the ATDC or Georgia Tech. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 14:04, 30 December 2024 (UTC)

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Rachid Ghanimi

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This article has been rejected as a draft and deleted already. This its third incarnation, and I still can't find any WP:SIGCOV of this player. The player still appears to fail WP:GNG. Anwegmann (talk) 03:00, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Keep per WP:NOLYMPICS. It was deleted as WP:TOOSOON but then he won an Olympic medal. St Anselm (talk) 03:06, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Haven't searched for sources yet, but note that he passes WP:NOLYMPICS as a medalist at the 2024 Summer Olympics; he'd be the sole 2024 medalist without an article, I think, if deleted. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:07, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Comment: I note the French article has 26 references - we can safely assume there are lots of sources in Arabic. This is precisely why we have WP:NOLYMPICS. St Anselm (talk) 03:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Comment: Haven't done a comprehensive review of the Arabic sources, but the references I viewed didn't contain any WP:SIGCOV of Ghanimi specifically. While the subject was on the team for the Olympics and won a medal, he didn't appear in any matches from what I can tell. Still undecided here. Let'srun (talk) 03:26, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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Keep – This time is enough WP:SIGCOV to estabilish the article. Svartner (talk) 04:51, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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Keep - per above. Shmego (talk) 14:10, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Chinese Information Processing Society of China

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Looks to be almost entirely self-promotional in nature. Amigao (talk) 02:59, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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OK, I will try to eliminate or reduce the tone. Ctxz2323 (talk) 09:54, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.
1. Qian, Duoxiu (2023) [2014]. "Translation Technology in China". In Chan, Sin-wai (ed.). Routledge Encyclopedia of Translation Technology (2 ed.). Abingdon, Oxon: Routledge. p. 308. ISBN 978-0-367-76736-5. Retrieved 2025-01-06 – via Google Books.
  The book notes: "There are many active participants in the research and development of machine translation (MT) and CAT. One leading organization is the Chinese Information Processing Society of China (CIPSC; www.cipsc.org.cn/index.php). It was established in June 1981, its mission being to develop methods for processing Chinese with the aid of computer technology, including automatic input, output, recognition, transfer, compression, storage, concordance, analysis, comprehension, and generation. This is to be done at different linguistic levels (character, lexical, phrasal, sentential, and textual). The field has developed into an interdisciplinary subject area in a very robust way with collaborative work by scholars from fields like philology, computer sciences, artificial intelligence, cognitive psychology, and mathematics. This organization has been in close contact with the outside world, playing a very active role in the world MT-Summits."
2. Yan, Yiming 颜逸明; Yin, Binyong 尹斌庸 (2002). 语文现代化论文集 [Collection of Papers on the Modernization of Chinese Language] (in Chinese). Beijing: Commercial Press. p. 141. ISBN 978-7-100-03535-4. Retrieved 2025-01-06 – via Google Books.
  The book notes: "1981 年,以钱伟长为理事长的中国中文信息学会成立。中文信息学会及所属的汉字编码专业委员会、《中文信息学报》《中文信息》等杂志成为组织交流汉字编码的理论的场所和媒介。1981 年至今中文信息学会、汉字编码委员会召开国际性、全国性学术会议 10 余次,发表的国内外论文和公布编码方案约在 1000 份以上,申请专利超过 200 件,上机运行的也有近百种。"
  From Google Translate: "In 1981, the Chinese Information Processing Society of China, chaired by Qian Weichang, was established. The Chinese Information Processing Society of China, along with its affiliated Character Encoding Committee, the Chinese Journal of Information and Chinese Information magazines, became venues and mediums for organizing and exchanging theories on Chinese character encoding. From 1981 to the present, the Chinese Information Processing Society and the Character Encoding Committee have held more than 10 international and national academic conferences, published over 1,000 domestic and international papers, and released encoding schemes. More than 200 patents have been applied for, and nearly 100 encoding systems have been implemented in machines."
3. Zhang, Pu 张普 (1992). 汉语信息处理研究 [Research on Chinese Language Information Processing] (in Chinese). Beijing: Beijing Language and Culture University Press. p. 231. ISBN 978-7-5619-0211-0. Retrieved 2025-01-06 – via Google Books.
  The book notes: "1981 年,正式成立了中国中文信息学会,推举钱伟长教授为第一任理事长,学会下专设了一个“汉字编码专业委员会” ,专攻汉字键盘输入技术。 1983 年,中国中文信息学会与联合国教科文组织在北京联合召开“中文信息处理国际研讨会” ,仅在会议同时举办的“计算机中文信息处理展览会”上,就展出了 15 个省市 34 个单位的 38 项成果,展期销售成交额 1078 万元。这个成绩不只受到联合国教科文组织欧沃拉比先生及国内外观众的赞赏,也使盯着中国这一庞大市场的国外各大计算机公司大吃一惊,他们没想到中国的步子迈得这么快、"
  From Google Translate: "In 1981, the Chinese Information Processing Society of China was formally established, and Professor Qian Weichang was elected as the first chairman. The society set up a "Chinese Character Encoding Professional Committee" to specialize in Chinese character keyboard input technology. In 1983, the Chinese Information Processing Society of China and UNESCO jointly held the "International Symposium on Chinese Information Processing" in Beijing. At the "Computer Chinese Information Processing Exhibition" held at the same time as the conference, 38 achievements from 34 units in 15 provinces and cities were exhibited, and the sales turnover during the exhibition period was 10.78 million yuan. This achievement was not only praised by Mr. Owolabi of UNESCO and domestic and foreign audiences, but also surprised major foreign computer companies that were eyeing the huge Chinese market. They did not expect China to move so fast,"
4. Liang, Qinghai 梁清海; Man, Hing-wu 文兴吾; Lam, Tsz-hing 林子卿 (1992). 当代中国科学技术总览 [Overview of Contemporary Chinese Science and Technology] (in Chinese). Beijing: China Science and Technology Press [zh]. p. 319. ISBN 978-7-5046-0862-8. Retrieved 2025-01-06 – via Google Books.
  The book notes: "1981 年 6 月成立。由钱伟长、中国中文信息学会甄建民、安其春、李金铠等人发起。宗旨是:团结广大科技工作者,繁荣发展我国科学技术事业,促进科学技术的普及和推广,促进科技领域出成果、出人才;为振兴经济,促进两个文明建设,加速实现我国社会主义现代化做贡献。该会设有土地利用、地籍管理、土地复垦、土地经济、建设用地、土地信息与遥感、土地法学等专业学术组织。出版刊物《中国土地科学》。 1988 年以来,先后与香港测量师学会、英国皇家特许测量师学会、国际测量师联合会、香港房地产建筑业协进会筹建立了联系。该会隶属中国科学技术协会,挂靠国家土地管理局;会址:北京市海淀区大柳树北村 25 号;邮政编码: 100081 。"
  From Google Translate: "Founded in June 1981. Initiated by Qian Weichang, Zhen Jianmin, An Qichun, Li Jinkai and others from the Chinese Information Processing Society of China. Its purpose is to unite the vast number of scientific and technological workers, prosper and develop my country's science and technology, promote the popularization and promotion of science and technology, promote the production of scientific and technological achievements and talents; to contribute to the revitalization of the economy, the promotion of the construction of two civilizations, and the acceleration of the realization of my country's socialist modernization. The association has professional academic organizations such as land use, cadastral management, land reclamation, land economy, construction land, land information and remote sensing, and land law. It publishes the journal "Chinese Land Science". Since 1988, it has established contacts with the Hong Kong Institute of Surveyors, the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors, the International Federation of Surveyors, and the Hong Kong Real Estate and Construction Industry Association. The association is affiliated to the China Association for Science and Technology and is affiliated to the State Land Administration; the address is No. 25, Daliushu North Village, Haidian District, Beijing; the postal code is 100081."
There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow the Chinese Information Processing Society of China (simplified Chinese: 中国中文信息学会; traditional Chinese: 中國中文資訊學; pinyin: Zhōngguó Zhōngwén Xìnxī Xuéhuì) to pass Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)#Primary criteria, which requires "significant coverage in multiple reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject".
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The "Purposes and activities" section is sourced to the the subject's website and could be considered to contain promotional wording. I consider the rest of the article to be largely neutral. The policies say that articles containing flaws should not be deleted if they can be improved. Wikipedia:Deletion policy#Alternatives to deletion says, If editing can address all relevant reasons for deletion, this should be done rather than deleting the page. Wikipedia:Editing policy#Wikipedia is a work in progress: perfection is not required says, Perfection is not required: Wikipedia is a work in progress. Collaborative editing means that incomplete or poorly written first drafts can evolve over time into excellent articles. Even poor articles, if they can be improved, are welcome. Cunard (talk) 10:07, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Yutong Group

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No indication of notability using WP:RS. Amigao (talk) 02:55, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Restore redirect to Yutong, this new article does not provide any additional context or knowledge that cannot be put in the Yutong article. Jumpytoo Talk 05:32, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Restore redirect to Yutong as this article is about the same topic as Yutong and providing a small amount of additional information that could be merged to Yutong. Cunard (talk) 10:12, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Jacob Randolph

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The only thing approaching WP:SIGCOV that I could find is this, but it is from the student newspaper of one of his colleges, and it was published while he was a student at UNC–Wilmington. So it is WP:LOCAL. As a result, this player appears to fail WP:GNG. Anwegmann (talk) 02:53, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Keep - This player made a professional debut, had a notable college career, and has just extended his contract with his current club. I feel like deleting this would be unfair. Shmego (talk) 14:02, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Greg Monroe (soccer)

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This player appears to fail WP:GNG due to a lack of WP:SIGCOV. Everything I could find was either passing, "local" by his college, club, or league, or database/signing announcement—nothing of significant, meaningful coverage. Anwegmann (talk) 02:49, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Miche-Naider Chéry

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Several searches have not uncovered any WP:SIGCOV of this player. None of the sources cited in the article meet those standards as well. This player, then, seems to fail WP:GNG. Anwegmann (talk) 02:46, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Question - Is coverage from fox sports not enough coverage? Shmego (talk) 14:04, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Max Glasser

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Am I missing something here? I can find a lot of announcements and "local" coverage, either from USL, FC Naples, or UC Davis, but there doesn't seem to be any WP:SIGCOV on this player. Possibly WP:TOOSOON, but still seems to fail WP:GNG. Anwegmann (talk) 02:36, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Draftify/Merge - I had created Draft:Max Glasser back in 2023 (relevant to this discussion it was moved back to draft space in March 2023) but no one had edited it since August 2024. It seems that the creator of this article may have missed the draft article, so while this version we're commenting on can't technically be moved back into the draft space as it didn't exist there previously as far as I can tell, I do think that merging this draft with the preexisting one to be fleshed out with more content and most importantly more independent sources would be for the best. Christiangamer7 (talk) 07:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
I would support draftifying this article. Shmego (talk) 14:03, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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Michael Creek

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I can't seem to find any WP:SIGCOV on this player. Perhaps it's a matter of WP:TOOSOON, as he is in the beginning of his career and has seen the field a few times, but right now, he seems to fail WP:GNG. Anwegmann (talk) 02:29, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Draftify – WP:TOOSOON. Svartner (talk) 04:48, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Y Tu Tambien

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Created by a single purpose editor and marked for notability concerns 10 years ago. 12 of the 18 sources are Facebook, the other sources do not cover this organization in detail. Fails WP:ORG. LibStar (talk) 02:23, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete: Found this [13], but it doesn't appear independent. All other sources I found were either connected to Columbia or were blogs. Massively promotional anyway, would have to be cut down to three sentences to remove all the puffery. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 12:04, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Belarus–Spain relations

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Article is based primarily on primary sources. 4 of the 6 sources are the Spanish Foreign Affairs, the 1st source is an embassy website. There is no third party significant coverage of these relations. LibStar (talk) 02:01, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Weak keep. On a cursory google search, some content can be found in third-party sources.--Asqueladd (talk) 10:10, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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The result was keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure)‎ LibStar (talk) 00:54, 6 January 2025 (UTC).

World Institute of Pain

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Previously deleted. Still fails WP:ORG. Sole source is a primary source. LibStar (talk) 00:53, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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All-time Tampa Bay Rowdies roster

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Subject appears to lack notability under WP:LISTN due to a lack of sourcing. PROD was removed with the claim that this grouping is notable, but no sources have been added since so I'm bringing this to AfD. Let'srun (talk) 00:47, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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2015 Halifax train crash

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This run of the mill crash with zero fatalities does not appear to have the WP:LASTING coverage to meet WP:NEVENT here. Let'srun (talk) 00:42, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Keep - there is no WP:MINIMIMDEATHS. Accident seems to have comparisons to Hixon. Article appears to need updating (NTSB report?), but that is not a reason to delete. Mjroots (talk) 09:53, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Delete. I'd raised concerns back in 2015 about lasting notability: Talk:2015 Halifax train crash#Notability. If the NTSB released a full report I can't find one. The FRA's Office of Railroad Safety released a perfunctory report: [14]. The report says, in effect, the driver screwed up. Grade crossing accidents, by themselves, are routine. Hixon had outcomes and commemoration. Mackensen (talk) 12:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

WineGUI

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PROD removed with insufficient reasoning, just "Stop deleting this wiki page". No notability whatsoever. TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 00:34, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Delete: All you can find are download links and blog posts, nothing we'd use for reviews or any critical discussion. What's in the article for sourcing isn't helpful. Oaktree b (talk) 01:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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Delete: No notability GUI, also, the article haves only primary source. Vitorperrut555 (talk) 01:29, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Sandwitches

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Article with no indication of notability or importance. TheTechie@enwiki (she/they | talk) 00:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

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Delete No content here, only infobox. Vitorperrut555 (talk) 01:30, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Don't delete This has a good amount of history that dates back to 2011. At the very least, retarget back to Goblin (album) and/or draftify the current content. mwwv ^converse∫_edits 02:46, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Redirect to Goblin (album) per above. No point in draftifying as this is just an infobox which could be easily recreated and isn't worth saving on its own. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 06:45, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Revert to redirect to Goblin (album): an infobox alone does not an article make, especially since the redirect was itself the result of the previous nomination (and the article obviously had more content then… which still wasn't enough). WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 08:13, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
Redirect to Goblin (album) - Back in 2014 the song article was redirected to the album, and since then there has been no further coverage of the song in its own right to merit a standalone article. Also note that someone later retargeted the term to sandwich for an unconvincing reason. Yesterday an inexperienced editor reverted the redirect and formed the no-content song article that we see now. There is little likelihood that it can or will be further (re-)developed into a full article. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 14:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Armageddon Through Your Speakers

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Article about an album by a band that doesn't have an article on here. Doesn't establish why this album is notable. LupinOnTheFritz (talk) 00:27, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Delete: Can only find links to Discogs and social media. Does not seem to be a notable album from 20 some years ago. No critical commentary, no reviews. Oaktree b (talk) 00:46, 6 January 2025 (UTC)
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Sputnikmusic review is a user review, thus ineligible per RSMUSIC, and I can't say I'm confident in RoughEdge. But both AllMusic and Exclaim! are valid reviews from reliable sources. I don't think it's in as bad shape as claimed above. There's also a mention in this article about the artwork of David Ho which would be worth including if kept. Unfortunately I couldn't find anything else, but for an Interscope release at that time I have to imagine there's more out there. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 06:32, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

Comment: I just noticed that the cover of the album says Armageddon Through Your Speaker, not Speakers, so the name of the article is incorrect. Still doesn't appear to be very noteworthy based on the sources found for "Speaker" instead of "Speakers". LupinOnTheFritz (talk) 09:26, 6 January 2025 (UTC)