Template:Did you know nominations/Melisende, Queen of Jerusalem
- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 18:21, 2 January 2025 (UTC)
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Melisende, Queen of Jerusalem
- ... that a medieval churchman considered Queen Melisende (pictured) "wise and judicious beyond what is normal for a woman" and a good ruler because she "had completely triumphed over the handicap of her sex"?
- Source: Barber 2012, p. 174.
- ALT1: ... that Queen Melisende (pictured) was so incensed by the rumours of her alleged infidelity that neither her husband nor his friends felt safe in her presence? Source: Mayer 1972, pp. 103, 109
- ALT2: ... that Queen Melisende (pictured) had a whole convent built so that her youngest sister could be an abbess rather than a mere nun? Source: Hamilton 1978, p. 151
- ALT3: ... that Queen Melisende (pictured) came uninvited to a crusader conference with the excuse of settling her sister's marital problems? Source: Mayer 1972, p. 171.
- ALT4: ... that Queen Melisende (pictured) became legendary already in her lifetime for generously supporting different religious communities in her crusader kingdom? Source: Mayer 1972, p. 131.
- ALT5: ... that Queen Melisende (pictured) swiftly seized power after her husband got crushed whilst chasing a hare on an outing she had suggested? Source: Runciman 1952, p. 233.
- Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab Al Faihani
- Comment: I am a few days late with the nomination, so I am kindly asking for a little reviewer leeway. The article abounds with hook material, and we rarely get GA women's biographies on DYK. Opinions on hooks and further suggestions would be much appreciated.
Improved to Good Article status by Surtsicna (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 189 past nominations.
Surtsicna (talk) 13:48, 31 December 2024 (UTC).
- Nomination was made 10 days after promotion to GA status, which is more-or-less the outer limit of what's allowed for the "in-built" extensions. However, given the circumstances, and how the article is a newly-promoted GA (and thus has pretty much no other chance of being featured on DYK), an IAR exemption sounds reasonable here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:19, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Here's my review:
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Hook eligibility:
- Cited: - re ALT5, I am not sure the hunt was her idea; the picnic was, but she did not suggest Fulk to go off in pursuit of the hare, and the wording suggests that Fulk's death was premeditated.
- Interesting:
Image eligibility:
- Freely licensed: - File:Coronation of Melisende.jpg does not have a US copyright tag.
- Used in article:
- Clear at 100px:
QPQ: Done. |
Overall: Well written and with high quality sources, recent GA. For me ALT0 or ALT2 are the more interesting hooks. Constantine ✍ 13:36, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- Added the US copyright tag, Constantine. The image is too crisp and colorful not to be used, I think. I have replaced the word "hunt" with "outing". Now why would the death of a beloved husband be premeditated? :) Thanks for weighing in on the hook choice. I thought ALT2 would be the reviewer's last choice :D Surtsicna (talk) 15:08, 1 January 2025 (UTC)
- I guess sometimes God just listens to a woman's prayers ;). Issues have been addressed, good to go. Constantine ✍ 10:32, 2 January 2025 (UTC)