Talk:Your Choice

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 23:57, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

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Seventeen performing "Ready to Love" on Jimmy Kimmel Live! in 2021

• ... that "Ready to Love" (performance pictured), the lead single of the EP Your Choice, explores the feelings of falling in love and confessing love? Source: Seventeen Magazine Quote: "Our lead single 'Ready to love' shows us courageously confessing our feelings for a 'you' who has allowed us to realize the feelings of love."
  • ALT1: ... that "Wave", a song from the EP Your Choice, was named Seventeen's "magnum opus"? Source: NME Quote: "‘Wave’ from ‘Your Choice’ is truly the group’s magnum opus"
  • ALT2: ... that the lyrics of "Gam3 Bo1", a song from the EP Your Choice, feature references to NFTs and Zoom? Source: Teen Vogue Quote: "References to Zoom and NFTs round out our year spent together on the Internet"
  • Reviewed: [[]]
  • Comment: This is my second nomination, so no QPQ is needed

5x expanded by Luminous Person (talk). Self-nominated at 05:55, 7 August 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Your Choice; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

• Cited:
• Interesting: - The original hook and ALT1 are not unusual for musical groups, although I would say ALT2 passes as something reasonably interesting/unusual.

Image eligibility:

• Freely licensed: - I don't think a screenshot from a YouTube video counts as freely licensed. This may need to be removed from the article.
• Used in article:
• Clear at 100px: - Fairly low quality

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Direct quotes flagged by Earwig have been attributed, so no problems there. ALT2 is the hook I'd go with. May need to remove the image from the article due to questionable licensing. This is my first DYK review, so would appreciate another pair of eyes on this review, especially around image licensing. pinktoebeans ^(talk) 17:25, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

@Pinktoebeans: Thank you for the review! I agree with you that ALT2 is more interesting. In that case, the photo is irrelevant and won't be needed. Since the YouTube video was released under a Creative Commons license, I believe the screenshot would be considered "free". ⇒ Luminous Person (talk) 20:23, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

@Luminous Person: Thanks for the clarification, I'm happy the image meets licensing requirements now and can be used in the article, although not in this DYK hook. In my opinion (would still like a second opinion though), we are good to go with ALT2. I used to be really into Seventeen, so I'll be very happy to see this on the front page! pinktoebeans ^(talk) 21:31, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

GA Review

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Reviewer: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 01:09, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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This article looks pretty clean. The lead could be a bit longer, there are some copy changes needed, and one reference is dead and could not be verified (the 2021 year-end chart). Ping me when ready. Nice work for GA nomination #1. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:30, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

@Sammi Brie: Thank you very much for your review! With the exception of one point in the copy changes, I believe I have made all the necessary changes. I added another sentence to the lead, does it still need to be longer? ⇒ Luminous Person (talk) 06:31, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

Copy changes

• Y All fixes in this section done, except second last point. ⇒ Luminous Person (talk) 06:31, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

• Adding information into the lead to summarize the Background section and expound on the musical style.
• It further charted on national charts in 11 countries, reaching the top ten on national charts in Japan and Croatia. There has to be a less verbose way to say this. It charted nationally in 11 countries, reaching the top ten in Japan and Croatia.
• the album's lead single, "Ready to Love" explores Complete the appositive by adding a comma after Love".
• Two hours prior to the album's release on June 18, Seventeen held a media conference in Seoul for the album. "For the album" seems redundant, OR you can change "the album's" to "its"
• South Korean music shows, including Music Bank and Inkigayo and Complete the appositive by adding a comma after Inkigayo.
• The album consists of six tracks and has a predominantly calm sound and depicts the nature of love. Awkward double-"and" structure. Reword.
• its "airy, almost carefree instrumentation." Quoting a sentence fragment? Period outside of quotes per MOS:LOGICAL. This recurs a few times.
• The final three tracks of the album, "Gam3 Bo1", "Wave", and "Same Dream, Same Mind, Same Night", are unit songs. Replace the first and last commas with dashes.
  • I am reading this as someone unfamiliar with K-pop group structure. It may help to explain units in here.
• is characterized by house beats and dubbed as "the group's magnum opus" by NME. Add "was" after "and"
• According to the Hanteo Chart, the album sold 1.36 million copies in the first week, marking the highest first-week sales in South Korea in 2021. This was also Seventeen's highest first week sales at the time, which had been previously set with Heng:garæ. Reword a bit. According to the Hanteo Chart, the album sold 1.36 million copies in the first week, marking the highest first-week sales in South Korea in 2021; this also set a record for the band previously set by Heng:garæ.
• giving them the "Quadruple Million Seller" moniker According to whom?

• According to the Hanteo Chart, it is their 4th album selling over a million copies, so they just get called the name by media and fans. I believe that the moniker itself isn't really according to anyone in particular. ⇒ Luminous Person (talk) 06:31, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

After reading the sentence again... It's so redundant it was worth removing in my book. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 07:23, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

• Hyphenate "number one" in "number one album"

Spot checks

• 2: Review in Teen Vogue. Mention of R&B as a genre; Your Choice is part of “Power of ‘Love,’” a bigger project the group launched for 2021, with which they aim to depict the multifaceted nature of love; “Power of ‘Love’” kicked off with Wonwoo and Mingyu’s duo “Bittersweet,” featuring LeeHi, which pondered the shifting dynamics of love and friendship. (though the May date might be elsewhere, add a source); In all, Your Choice is intended as a comfort album, going back to one of the most explored yet expansive concepts in the annals of pop culture. Love as a topic could be daunting or hackneyed in less deft hands — instead, SVT take a classic theme and refresh it, which is appreciated in these trying times. Though maybe not as explicitly, the whole comeback also feels like a love letter to fans, with the inclusion of warm and comforting imagery as well as subtle callbacks to previous eras. (is this where the "calm" comes from). The Spotify embed lists all six tracks. "

Ready to Love" as the lead single (presumably the rest of that sentence is in 24). Y

• Y Added a source for the May date and replaced "calm" with "comforting" ⇒ Luminous Person (talk) 06:31, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

• 20: Korean-language source Herald Pop. Via DeepL: Group SEVENTEEN (ESCOOPS, Junghan, Joshua, Jun, Hoshi, Wonwoo, Uji, D.E.A.T., Minzy, Dogyeom, Seungkwan, Vernon, and Dino) has surprisingly released a special video for "Ready to love". At 0:00 on the 27th, agency Pledis Entertainment gave fans a special gift by releasing a special video for "Ready to love," the title track of SEVENTEEN's mini 8th album "Your Choice," through SEVENTEEN's official YouTube and SNS channels. Y
• 31: Yonhap (English) article: K-pop boy band Seventeen has set a new sales record, garnering the most first-week sales of any album in South Korea this year, the group's agency said Friday. The 13-piece act's latest EP "Your Choice," released a week ago, sold more than 1.36 million copies in its first week, according to Pledis Entertainment. The figure is the highest among all albums released in South Korea this year. The group surpassed the first-week sales record it set with previous album "Heng:garae." Y
• 35: Korea Times article: It became the fourth million-seller for the group, following its 2019 album "An Ode" and 2020 albums "Heng:garae" and "Semicolon." (Note: via Yonhap.) The Quadruple Million Seller label is in ref 21, but it does not explain who awards it (besides the obvious). Y
• 49: Croatian chart June 21–27 with Your Choice in third. Y
• 61: 2021 year-end Gaon chart. This is a dead link from the 2022 renaming to Circle Chart; supply either an archive or another source with this information.

• Y Replaced the old link with the new Circle Chart. ⇒ Luminous Person (talk) 06:31, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

This now checks out. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 07:24, 31 August 2023 (UTC)

• 68: Apple Music citations x3 for the release date in various countries. Y

Earwig only flags direct attributed quotes.

Media

The article has three media:

• Non-free cover art with NFUR
• Screenshot of the band performance, uploaded to YouTube with CC-BY license (yes, really, that is a new one on me for a band that size!).
• Non-free 18-second song sample with NFUR

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