Talk:New England Revolution in international competition

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 12:39, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that the New England Revolution are 0-2-0 (W-L-D) against Trinidadian clubs in international competition? Source:
  Gives an overview of the only two matches against Trinidadian opposition: https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-boston-globe-public-gives-a-school/143859085/
  All-time results can be found here, which proves this is the only matchup against Trinidadian clubs (pages 505-528 are non-MLS clubs): 2024 Media Guide. New England Revolution. Archived from the original on 22 March 2024. Retrieved 22 March 2024.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: bot: original URL status unknown (link)

• ALT1: ...that in international competition, the New England Revolution have faced Liga Deportiva Alajuelense three times across five editions of the CONCACAF Champions Cup? Source: https://www.revolutionsoccer.net/news/matchday-guide-revs-vs-ld-alajuelense-march-6-2024

• ALT2: ...that the New England Revolution are the first MLS team to lose to a Trinidadian club international competition? Source: https://www.mlssoccer.com/news/concacaf-champions-league-joe-public-fc-4-new-england-revolution-0

• ALT3: ...that the New England Revolution's second trophy came in international competition, when they won the now-defunct SuperLiga in 2008? Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20240101031128/https://www.espn.co.uk/football/story/_/id/37621894/new-england-revolution-seal-supporters-shield-mls-best-regular-season-team

• ALT4: ...that the first time the New England Revolution competed in an international competition, they played their "home" match at their opponent's stadium? Source: (Indicates that this match was the first match and was played at their opponent's home stadium): https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-boston-globe-revolutions-road-trip/143807768/, (Refers to this match as a "home" match): https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-boston-globe-seeking-a-home-feel-adv/143858710/
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Created by Brindille1 (talk).

Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has less than 5 past nominations.

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Brindille1 (talk) 04:12, 26 March 2024 (UTC).

• The hook at present does not appear to meet WP:DYKINT as it is not a hooky hook or one that is likely to attract a broad audience. Pinging SounderBruce to help suggest possible alternative hooks. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:43, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
  • I think the only decent hook that can come from the article is that New England has played Alajuelense three times in their five CCC/CCL seasons, which is a bit unusual. Of course, this needs to be added to the article first with a good source. SounderBruce 04:42, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
    • Thanks Narutolovehinata5 and SounderBruce, I've added the suggested hook (ALT2), as well as three other alternates. One of the challenges in this article is finding hooks that I could reasonably bold-link the article in. I haven't seen any examples of DYK's in the other "international competition" articles I've looked at either. Brindille1 (talk) 03:18, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

I think ALT4 has promise and in fact I think it's the only proposal that isn't too reliant on specialist knowledge to be interesting. I'd suggest striking out the others and just focusing on ALT4. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:17, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

Sounds good, I've crossed out each of the other hooks.Brindille1 (talk) 02:30, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

• This is ready for a full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:13, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
  • Will review this. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:44, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: The article looks good. As for the hook, I'm not sure I see it being called a "home" game – the article itself only notes They faced Liga Deportiva Alajuelense of Costa Rica. Due to logistical issues, both matches were hosted in Costa Rica. The source itself says that "The Revolution surrendered their home game opportunity" unless I'm missing something. @Brindille1: Thoughts? BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:03, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

• @BeanieFan11: I see your point, and I've added a second source to ALT4 which clearly refers to this match as a home game. Brindille1 (talk) 17:09, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
  • ALT4 approved. BeanieFan11 (talk) 17:34, 5 April 2024 (UTC)

GA Review

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Nominator: Brindille1 (talk · contribs) 04:14, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Sammi Brie (talk · contribs) 01:27, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)
It is reasonably well written. a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists): It is factually accurate and verifiable, as shown by a source spot-check. a (references): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism): It is broad in its coverage. a (major aspects): b (focused): It follows the neutral point of view policy. Fair representation without bias: It is stable. No edit wars, etc.: It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate. a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall: Pass/Fail:
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Article looks good. Just some copy changes. Also, take a fresh look as this page has sat for a very long time at GA and make sure you don't spot anything. Ping me when addressed. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 01:52, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks for picking this up, @Sammi Brie! I've addressed the comments you left- I've also made a couple of small wording changes after re-reading the article. Brindille1 (talk) 18:01, 1 January 2025 (UTC)

Copy changes

History

• The match ended 3–1 result missing "in"
• Hyphenate "first-round" in "first-round result"
• This marked the first time an MLS team had lost to a team from the Caribbean, and the first time a side from Trinidad had put up more than three goals against an MLS side. Remove unnecessary comma
• They conceded three goals without scoring a goal of their own, and were eliminated when they lost 4–3 in a penalty shootout. Remove comma (WP:CINS)
• Remove quotations from "Champions Cup" (MOS:SCAREQUOTES)
• Hyphenate "regular-season"
• This time, the Revolution won 4–0 at home on March 6, and drew 1–1 on the road on March 14. Remove comma CINS
• The Revolution lost the first leg 4–0 at home, and fielded a rotated side away at the Estadio Azteca Remove comma CINS

Records

I added some captions here per MOS:DTAB. I considered screen reader–only captions for the last two except for the citation.

Other competitions

• The team won their group, but was eliminated in the Round of 32 Another CINS remove comma

Sourcing and spot checks

Reviewed: 11, 17, 18, 34, 37

No issues found.

Images

The images are all appropriately licensed and tagged.

Encouragement (not necessary for GA status): Add alt text to photos.

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Peer review

New England Revolution in international competition

I've listed this article for peer review because I'm looking to nominate it for FA status. I've successfully nominated GA's and FL's, but haven't had a Featured Article and would appreciate any feedback!

Thanks, Brindille1 (talk) 04:20, 19 January 2025 (UTC)