Talk:Brown bear

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  Blond juvenile NM brown bear among pinyons, detail

Did you know nomination

The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 11:59, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

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• ... that brown bears often figure into the literature of Europe and North America as "cute and cuddly"? Source: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF01130991
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Snake Saturday

Created by Wolverine XI (talk). Self-nominated at 05:12, 4 March 2024 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Brown bear; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

• ALT1: ...that in some rare cases, large Siberian tigers prey on adult brown bears? Source:[1]
• ALT2: ...that brown bears have been recorded engaging in tool use? Source:[2]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Cited: Interesting:

QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article looks well sourced and balanced, and was nominated within 7 days of GA. I can't access the hook article, but it looks like it might be about children's literature specifically, does it also mention Western literature in general? The hook is interesting enough, but I can't help thinking some of the other facts in the article (like them being hunted by tigers or using tools!) would be even better hooks. Can you add some alts? BuySomeApples (talk) 23:36, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

• A picture might also be good, a lot of the ones in the article are pretty cool and of high quality. BuySomeApples (talk) 23:36, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
  • Will add later today. Wolverine XI ^{(talk to me)} 05:19, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
    • BuySomeApples Better now? Wolverine XI ^{(talk to me)} 22:38, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Yes much better! I swapped the illustration for the photo from the infobox, but otherwise this nom looks good. BuySomeApples (talk) 21:58, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Brown bears are not larger than tigers

Brown bears are no bigger than tigers and I have proof. We have many comparisons from camera traps of male Ussuri brown bears and tigers, Ussuri brown bears are usually the same height and shorter than tigers, they are the same size, and Ussuri brown bears, by the way, are considered one of the largest subspecies of brown bear in the world, so medium-sized subspecies of brown bear are of course smaller than tigers. Chukcha228 (talk) 13:31, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

And where is the proof? CambridgeBayWeather (solidly non-human), Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 15:22, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

@Chukcha228: Nice argument you have there, but remember to put your money where your mouth is. First and foremost, if reading the material hasn't already told you, brown bear sizes vary greatly. One question: have you ever heard of Kodiak bears? Sure, before launching into such petty debates, go read some more sources on brown bears to make sure what you're saying is actually factual. We are taking in regard all brown bear subspecies and populations, not only the Ussuri subspecies. And just so you know, a large male Kodiak bear would absolutely dwarf any Siberian tiger. Unless you find some lost 1920s archive in the trenches that proves your whole argument here, I may then consider your POV. Wolverine XI ^{(talk to me)} 18:18, 4 September 2024 (UTC)

No they won't dwarf any Siberian, like I said one of the largest brown bears in the world in comparisons is almost equally tall and shorter. Secondly yes we talk about all bears not only Kodiaks, so tigers of course would be larger than interior grizzlies and Gobi bears. Chukcha228 (talk) 04:45, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

I disagree with absolutely everything you wrote. Wolverine XI ^{(talk to me)} 13:50, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

I agree with Wolverine. It's hard to believe your claim is true without reliable sources to back it up. _ZZ^Z'S 14:04, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

Well I don't know how to post comparisons here, but then I will share some data. Average length and height for adult male interior grizzlies 164 cm straight line and 95.2 cm (Blanchard), for Siberian tigers it's 195 cm straight line and height at shoulders 95 cm (Kerley et al. 2005) Note that tigers in study were young and mostly not in normal shape + modern individuals would be larger, and besides this, bears also have a longer neck and a longer skull, so the length is exaggerated. As you can see tigers are significantly larger than medium-sized brown bear subspecies. Chukcha228 (talk) 10:01, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 October 2024

Fix link in sidebar under Subspecies, should be wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_bear#Taxonomy_and_subspecies not wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_bear#Subspecies

Quote: "15, see text and article" Nicktu7 (talk) 00:05, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

 Done, thank you for your contributions! Myrealnamm (💬pros · 📜cons) 00:39, 31 October 2024 (UTC)