Talk:Halsey (singer)/Archive 1

Archive 1

Semi-protected edit request on 6 June 2015

here is the cite for this line: Halsey will be supporting Imagine Dragons on the Smoke and Mirrors Tour on the North American leg between June 3, 2015 and August 1, 2015.[citation needed] https://twitter.com/Imaginedragons/status/606196627372539904 & https://twitter.com/halseymusic/status/606273992345780224 Hope this helps!!

Raingirl1989 (talk) 01:13, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

I don't think we can treat Twitter as a reliable source. Do you have any alternative sources? An official press release maybe or perhaps some media coverage? --DanielRigal (talk) 16:10, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

The tweets do not support that she'll be supporting the Smoke and Mirrors Tour for those dates. We can draw from the Imagine Dragons tweet that she's on the tour, but it's unclear for how long. Tweets are self-published sources—as are press releases. —C.Fred (talk)

Associated acts

What constitutes an associated act? I thought it was used for individuals who had been involved with several bands or for bands that have key members in common. Does opening for a band really qualify? If so Dumpy's Rusty Nuts would have a list of associated acts 10 miles long. I can't help thinking that what we have here is a minimally notable subject where some editors are desperately trying to inherit some notability from minor connections to more notable acts. --DanielRigal (talk) 22:12, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 July 2015

The following should come at the start of her "Career" section because it more accurately describes how here career began. She even verified this in an interview at the following link: http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/04/halseys-dream-pop-and-instagram-obsessions.html

Please add: Halsey began her career by posting cover songs on You Tube under her own name where she established a sizable online following. She had over 50,000 Twitter followers when she posted her song Ghost on Soundcloud under the moniker Halsey, which helped lead to her signing to Astralwerks. Halsey has since removed the videos from that You Tube account, but a few of them can still be found online: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dpwRW4dWFM https://www.youtube.com/user/ashcolette

23.241.144.98 (talk) 03:31, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

I'll trim that down a bit and add some of it. We don't want the links though. --DanielRigal (talk) 21:12, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

New source for expansion

Coscarelli, Joe (August 5, 2015). "Halsey, With 'Badlands,' Is Moving Fast to Share a Secret Language". The New York Times. Good overview of her personal background and identity ("Halsey identifies as what she calls 'tri-bi' — biracial, bisexual and bipolar") and her released music and career so far. postdlf (talk) 16:03, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

Notability

She just released a hit song, "Americana," so if she wasn't notable before, I'd say she is now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drhundertwasser (talk • contribs) 11:02, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Hit by what standards? It hasn't charted on Billboard yet, at least not the Hot 100. —C.Fred (talk) 14:08, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

24.45.105.156 (talk) 04:34, 24 August 2015 (UTC)the song is called 'new americana' and it has been on multiple spotify made playlists24.45.105.156 (talk) 04:34, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Barely significant, if at all, per Wikipedia standards. —C.Fred (talk) 23:36, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Source to add

See here It's an interesting take on the music industry at large but features her as a kind of test case. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:33, 30 August 2015 (UTC)

Yes. That is very interesting. It makes me wonder how much we are being manipulated here. It seems that Halsey is only really famous within a bubble ecosystem controlled by her promoters at Apple. She seems to be being anointed as a pop star from above, perhaps forgetting the etymology of the word "pop", derived from "popular", i.e. of the people. Of course, that's what the music industry has always done with varying degrees of duplicity and success, and I am not suggesting that we delete the article on The Monkees, but do I question whether we should not be regarding all Apple derived sources, including their charts, as primary sources for this article. Coupled with the past history of COI editing I can't help feeling vaguely uneasy about this article. The whole thing feels slighty unreal. Not fake enough to delete but not quite real enough to take at face value. Incorporating elements of that link you provide in the article could certainly help to document the situation better. --DanielRigal (talk) 19:17, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2015

It says "was diagnosed with bipolar isorder". That should be disorder. Thank you. Brynternet (talk) 03:03, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Fixed, thanks. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:48, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

The surname

Frangipane is a common italian name, so 1) the father didn't give his surname or 2) it isn't her real surname or 3) his father is part italian: what is the truth? --79.49.9.101 (talk) 11:27, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Orphaned references in Halsey (singer)

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Halsey (singer)'s orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "FRA":

• From Skrillex discography: "Discographie Skrillex". lescharts.com. Hung Medien. Retrieved March 28, 2012. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |work= (help)
• From Justin Bieber discography: "Discographie Justin Bieber". lescharts.com (in French). Hung Medien. Retrieved March 14, 2011.

Reference named "NZ":

• From Skrillex discography: "Discography Skrillex". charts.org.nz. Hung Medien. Retrieved January 17, 2011. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |work= (help)
• From Justin Bieber discography: "Discography Justin Bieber". charts.org.nz. Hung Medien. Retrieved April 26, 2011.

Reference named "NOR":

• From Skrillex discography: "Discography Skrillex". norwegiancharts.com. Hung Medien. Retrieved October 25, 2011. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |work= (help)
• From Justin Bieber discography: "Discography Justin Bieber". norwegiancharts.com. Hung Medien. Retrieved February 9, 2013.

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 23:30, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Badlands sales

Badlands has sold 199,000 copies in the US. http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6769042/halsey-new-americana-adult-pop-radio — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.53.98.113 (talk) 04:54, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Tri-bi issue

It appears that the artist has taken issue with the quote as it appeared in the New York Times. On the 23rd she tweeted 'I don't call myself "tri-bi" that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard. Can we stop running that misquote please". Still, no source that contradicts it and as recent as a 2015 DIY interview it was again mentioned. Is this a BLP issue? Should it be removed? Karst (talk) 22:38, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 December 2015

Halsey hates being called "tri-bi" it is a derogatory term and it is incredibly offensive, not only to her but the LGBTQ community

JillianKara (talk) 23:04, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Could you point to a source that indicates that it is an offensive term please? The New York Times appeared happy to print it. Karst (talk) 00:06, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Further, the New York Times attributes the usage of the term to her. If she's stopped using the term in the last four months, we need to find a reliable source that says as much. —C.Fred (talk) 01:21, 4 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 December 2015

She has never identified herself as "tri-bi" check her twitter for more evidence. 2406:3003:201C:3EB:4AD7:5FF:FEDC:CC89 (talk) 06:36, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

 Not done the NYT article cited is quite specific about this - and clearly qualified by the statement "although she has since distanced herself from it". Arjayay (talk) 13:39, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 February 2016

Halsey's song New Americana is currently the number 1 song on the charts in New Zealand. The "peak position" of "NZ" (New Zealand) needs to be updated to 1. as of 13/Feb/2016. Below is the reference. Well done Halsey.

http://www.muzic.net.nz/charts/1/official-new-zealand-top-40-singles

121.73.98.83 (talk) 03:00, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Not done: It appears that the source you provide is not considered a "good source" for chart rankings. Please see WP:GOODCHARTS. I will post about this on WP:WPMU however to get a second opinion as I am unfamiliar with this topic. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 04:43, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Fair enough, but may I state that WP:GOODCHARTS state a reliable link as RMNZ/RIANZ right... RIANZ sponsor the below link. Their logo is top left of the page

http://www.muzic.net.nz/charts/1/official-new-zealand-top-40-singles

Also just as abit of genuinity (if that's a word haha) being from New Zealand myself, there's a few radio stations stating it as number one on the charts right now apart from genre specific stations stations such as rock etc and they say it, with a new single coming soon being Colors

However, I do see your point of view

121.73.98.83 (talk) 15:54, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Singer-songwriter?

Singer-songwriter is associated with the acoustic-folk genre of music. This article describes her as alternative pop. Do we have a source that says she also does acoustic-folk, or do we need to describe her as a singer and songwriter but not a singer-songwriter? —C.Fred (talk) 20:37, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

She is a singer and songwriter, not a singer-songwriter. The editor who added that probably just doesn't know the definition. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 21:44, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

Like it or not, the definition of the term has become generic. Check out the results of the Google search for "define singer-songwriter". Here's one of them. 71.183.133.193 (talk) 21:43, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 April 2016

During the early life section of Halsey's wikipedia page, it states that she claims herself as tri-bi.Since then, Frangipane has claimed she doesn't like that title and never claimed herself as such. This request is to remove that sentence.

Thank you very much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Babyshimmer (talk • contribs) 18:46, 16 April 2016‎ (UTC)

Not done: The sentence is sourced and relevant to the article. We don't remove content just because the subject doesn't like it. —C.Fred (talk) 18:55, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 April 2016

189.131.67.1 (talk) 16:53, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Halsey <3

Not done: as you have not requested a change.
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Semi-protected edit request on 9 August 2016

Filmography Halsey appeared as herself on an Season 1, Episode 7 titled "Carpet Season" of the Showtime original series "Roadies".

WoodGregg (talk) 20:25, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Not done: IMDB is not considered a reliable source when dealing with cast lists. Topher385 (talk) 12:14, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

References

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Halsey on Roadies

Halsey appears as an opening act for the fictional band Staton-House Band on the showtime TV show Roadies where she performs her hit song "Ghost". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Verkley15 (talk • contribs) 14:39, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, but without a reference or any indication of its notability this cannot be included. Karst (talk) 14:47, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 September 2016

81.135.43.145 (talk) 10:56, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Please add her extra EPs: Tokyo Narita Complementary Colors

Added. Tokyo Narita was a single. The Colors EP is detailed on the page for the single. One sentence added with reference. Karst (talk) 12:39, 10 September 2016 (UTC)

Critique

Some facts are not cited, particularly in the introduction. Some of the source materials appears to be somewhat biased and/or unreliable, such as twitter and interviews. I understand that these are probably the best sources for info the artist at the moment, however more reliable sources are needed. Mejoh004 (talk) 02:03, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 December 2016

Under the artistry section the end of the fourth sentence reads: "and credits Lady Gaga for giving her to be the strength to be herself." Should be changed to: "and credits Lady Gaga for giving her the strength to be herself." QuestionAuthority (talk) 22:02, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

 Done! Thanks for pointing that out. regards, DRAGON BOOSTER ★ 05:40, 24 December 2016 (UTC).

Bisexual?

she said she is bisexual 27.3.5.250 (talk) 19:04, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Where? Unless we have a reliable source, we can't include it. —C.Fred (talk) 02:51, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

"I'm a mixed race, bisexual woman" https://twitter.com/halseymusic/status/569330047670038530 27.3.5.250 (talk) 11:36, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Is this actually important? It seems more gossip than anything of merit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.219.240.141 (talk) 06:15, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

She's an openly bisexual woman, why is this deemed as gossip? It's an important part of who she is as it's representation for her fans who identify the same/similarly to her. Paramore lindsey (talk) 01:11, 29 January 2017 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2015

Please change "Halsey identifies as bisexual" to "Halsey is bisexual", as she as stated before it is what she IS and not what she IDENTIFIES as. Source: https://twitter.com/halsey/status/630376832366473216 164.106.166.48 (talk) 16:43, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Not done: I don't believe this needs to be changed, the language is formal but correct. -- ferret (talk) 18:30, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

Failure to understand language and logic. If she states that she is bisexual, then she identifies as bisexual. To say "she is bisexual", you would need camera footage of her engaging in sex with both genders. -- Jibal (talk) 03:56, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

She has called Panic! at the Disco the "band that changed [her] fucking life"

i think this should be censored, even though it's a quote, it's out of line with the standards of wikipedia text

That is the quote and wikipedia is not censored. Karst (talk) 14:34, 30 September 2016 (UTC)

Where the fuck did you get your notions about "the standards of wikipedia text"? -- Jibal (talk) 04:01, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

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Wikipedia Project

Hello! I will be creating a section for Halsey's involvement in the 2018 Women's March. Edits will be over the course of three months. Stay tuned. Cheers! Laurenabb (talk) 22:40, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Frangipane v. Halsey?

Throughout the article, some sentences refer to Halsey, other sentences refer to her as Frangipane. We should pick one to stay consistent? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laurenabb (talk • contribs) 22:46, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Updates to come!

Hello!

I am planning on editing this page with the following edits: - Reformat the sections - Rename the sections to clarify topic (if necessary) - Editing Career section (taking out information about personal life such as miscarriage and drug use) - Add new sections (ex: Activism, Personal Life) - Activism Section (Women's March 2018 Poem: A Story Like Mine)

I would be grateful for any input or advice about finding sources.

Thank you! Laurenabb (talk) 22:04, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Resources for Halsey's Social Activism Section (New)-Please comment!

Hello!

I would love your input on my sources for Halsey's Social Activism Section.

Sources 1, 2 & 5 are sources that will be used to support why her passion for women advocacy is important to increasing the visibility of sexual assault victims and empowering women to come forward.

1) Music and Social Movements

2) Celebrity and Power: Fame in Contemporary Culture

3) Women's March 2018: Protestors Take to the Streets for the Second Straight Year

4) Halsey's Recital Of 'A Story Like Mine' Traces The Staggering Prevalence Of Assault

5) Sexual Assault Statistics

References

Wikipedia is WP:NOTSOAPBOX. Only one of the articles you have linked too mentions Halsey directly (4) and really that would just be a second reference to her poem at the Women's March. None of the others are appropriate for this article. NZFC^(talk) 21:19, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your feedback! I appreciate your input. Laurenabb (talk) 21:04, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Recent Halsey Edits/Format

Hello! I have spent my morning indulging in Halsey's page. I have deeply enjoyed editing her page and reformatting the sections. I also added a section on Halsey's poem, "A Story Like Mine." I would appreciate any feedback on my work thus far.

Thanks in advanced! Laurenabb (talk) 16:29, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Someone should add her signature.

https://www.google.com/search?q=halsey+signature&rlz=1CAHPZQ_enUS749US751&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwid2MD42qvdAhVD2qwKHXDfDQsQ_AUICigB&biw=1366&bih=694#imgrc=lgTVdDAKH11tJM: — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joey kl22 (talk • contribs) 15:22, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

Updated Photo

Would someone more adept in sourcing usable photos update the photo for this Wiki, as the current photo does not represent the way the artist looks in current photos. Navarrocortez (talk) 00:21, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

RuPaul's Drag Race

Halsey appeared as a guest judge last March and I tried adding in this in, but there was an error because apparently the wikipedia page for Rupaul's Drag Race has a percent in it so I can't enter it. Can someone else do it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:9000:650c:1b00:ac03:a594:4173:626 (talk) 01:53, 22 October 2018‎ (UTC)

References

With proper internal links, there shouldn't be any percent signs needed. I've inserted it into the prose that talks about 2018 with a reference to the Billboard article. —C.Fred (talk) 02:26, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Shouldn't it also be added to the "television" section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joey kl22 (talk • contribs) 03:38, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

It's a one-off guest appearance, and those don't always go in the table. At least, that's my interpretation, and I'm open to others' takes on what's been done in similar articles. —C.Fred (talk) 12:16, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Without Me

Hey guys! I noticed the recent release of her music video wasn't added to the table containing her music videos. Should I add that in? Is there a need/way to cite additions to a table? Thanks! -Tmcain1 (talk) 02:52, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Frangipane/Halsey confusion

I distinctly remember this article using "Frangipane" to refer to Halsey before she started calling herself Halsey. Why was that changed? Now the article only says Halsey to refer to her, and I think it made more sense to call her Frangipane because that's who she was before she started calling herself Halsey, she only started calling herself Halsey after she started pursuing a public image. So, should we change it back to having Frangipane as the pre-fame way to refer to her? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joey kl22 (talk • contribs) 07:58, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

New Section

Hi everyone, I have been slowly making some small edits to this article over the past month or so. Today I made a large change that I am hoping to receive feedback on. I added a new section that specifically discusses Halsey's personal struggles. I made sure to use reliable sources, so I am hoping that you will all like the information I added. Thank You! AutumnM99 (talk) 16:09, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 December 2018

Cists is misspelled under her Personal Life section; I wanted to correct it to cysts. Afaylor (talk) 18:04, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

 Done Alucard 16_{❯❯❯ chat?} 18:18, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Revert Vandalism

The picture of Halsey is fake. Was vandalized to support BTS. Anonymous turtle fan (talk) 01:35, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

 Done by another editor DannyS712 (talk) 01:46, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Done by me, Apologies for the edit summary I genuinely thought the image was photoshopped by a troll .... Never in my life did I ever think that was a real image!, Anyway reinstated the previous one. –Davey2010^Talk 01:48, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Personal

Couldn‘t we add that she is currently in a relationship with Yungblud? Mrsknowitall56 (talk) 20:55, 28 February 2019 (UTC)

Is there any way to shrink File: Halsey LA (2).PNG ?

Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but the current profile picture is kinda awkward; it's hard to see her face because she's looking to the right. I think File: Halsey LA (2).PNG is a better option, but the picture itself is too large and doesn't fit correctly. So, is there any way to shrink it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nikki J 99 (talk • contribs) 02:46, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Personally I think the current image is perfect and shouldn't be changed - Her face can be seen in both images, Cheers, –Davey2010^Talk 11:19, 21 March 2019 (UTC)

Is it necessary to call her an actress?

She's known for music, not her acting credits. Wouldn't it be appropriate to add once she gets notability for her acting? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joey kl22 (talk • contribs) 03:37, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

Not really because most poeple normaly know her as a singer . Wande mehllomahle (talk) 21:23, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Genre

The song "Nightmare" is definitely Rock. It sounds a lot like Evanescence who is classified as Rock, or even TATU. Shall we consider adding Rock to the genre section?--Mapsfly (talk) 00:54, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Not unless an overwhelming majority of sources start calling her a "rock singer". One pop rock song does not a rock star make.—NØ 20:30, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

I'm wondering why she's listed as mostly Pop, when both albums and and her EP are listed as Alternative on Apple Music? I also want to know why that "doesn't count"? She can be considered as indie pop, but what sources do we have to back up the listed genres that were on here before? Because other than Apple Music and Halsey herself I can't find anything. Sawhitney36 (talk) 16:32, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

Read Halsey (singer)#Music style and themes. For the Apple Music thing, it never said Halsey was alternative. It said two of her albums and one of her songs was alternative, which isn't the same thing. I can't find it on a Wikipedia page, but I was told once that using sources like Amazon Music and Spotify (or Apple Music) for genres is not good. Billiekhalidfan (talk) 13:34, 11 August 2019 (UTC)

I got this wrong, I didn't see the music style and themes section and I assume other people didn't because the part above about Halsey's distinctive singing voice wasn't sourced with the same source, it looked like a biased opinion, the source should have been added to both, considering the distinctive part appears first. Sawhitney36 (talk) 09:23, 12 August 2019 (UTC)

Filmography

Why are music videos in filmography? Those are already in her discography page. Billiekhalidfan (talk) 13:11, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 August 2019

remove "similar to Kendrick Lamar" in regard to comparing Halsey to an artist not considered a pop artist but is willing to do pop collaborations. This comparison makes little sense, Lamar rarely does this and there are much better examples than him for this. DRlVE (talk) 05:14, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

 Not done: The source [1] explicitly has Halsey comparing herself to Lamar. NiciVampireHeart 00:24, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

Guinness World Record

In the lead the "a Guinness World Record," needs to be moved to the end of the lead as an after-thought or deleted from the lead completely, it is not a nomination or an award as such as recognised for Halsey's industry, Guinness World Records adding some categories and using it to seek extra attention aside, this is irrelevant, thought, comments, queries. 121.99.108.78 (talk) 22:09, 5 October 2019 (UTC)

Infobox image

Which picture is better? or . Personally, I think the former is a far better picture. Billiekhalidfan (talk) 17:29, 6 October 2019 (UTC)

Her real surname

Frangipane is an italian surname, maybe also the father has italian origins.. --2.226.12.134 (talk) 08:34, 30 May 2020 (UTC)

can someone pls add it

She said in her twitter that instead of hungarian she was of turkish descent. https://twitter.com/halsey/status/1271524914063790080 https://filmne.com/american-star-singer-halsey-turkish/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.196.84.60 (talk) 08:07, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

She said that she is part Hungarian but more Hungarian than Turkish. I'm trying to figure out how to word it—especially since she isn't clear if the Turkish is from her father's or mother's lineage. —C.Fred (talk) 17:39, 30 August 2020 (UTC)

Remove Guiness world records mention

Please remove the mention saying that Halsey has held three Guiness world records for boy with luv as Blackpink How You Like That broke all the records! Boy with luv no longer hold that record. https://www.billboard.com/articles/news/9412453/blackpinks-how-you-like-that-guinness-world-records Ka903 (talk) 08:55, 27 January 2021 (UTC)

Award nomination

• 32nd GLAAD Media Awards

---Another Believer _(Talk) 00:39, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 February 2021

Associated acts: drymeadow ref:spinnup.com/drymeadow DARTMeadow (talk) 21:01, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: @DARTMeadow: Please explain how Drymeadow qualifies to be listed. Additionally, your username gives the appearance that you have a conflict of interest in this matter. —C.Fred (talk) 23:15, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

extra info

could somebody add that she is actually of turkish descent here and here 46.196.85.168 (talk) 12:33, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 April 2021

Change "In March 2021, Halsey announced that she used she/they pronouns." under the personal life section to "In March 2021, Halsey announced that they use she/they pronouns." Haley Cries (talk) 23:59, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: Please get consensus for this change before proposing it. Current consensus is that, given the choice, Wikipedia is using she/her pronouns throughout the article. —C.Fred (talk) 00:04, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2021

Change her to their 79.160.184.53 (talk) 12:59, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. See discussion above ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:01, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 July 2021

103.48.68.11 (talk) 11:42, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Change Halsey's pronouns from "her" to "they"

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. See discussion above. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:45, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 2 July 2021

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: No consensus. On the one hand, page views clearly favour the move. On the other, there was mention of WP:RECENTISM and admiral William Halsey Jr. was given as an example of someone with more long-term significance. (non-admin closure) Vpab15 (talk) 20:37, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

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• Halsey (singer) → Halsey
• Halsey → Halsey (disambiguation)

– Without preference to the singer, I believe that she is likely to be the primary topic above all alternatives. Pageviews supports this, with views for the singer far and above the disambiguation page (verify [here]). Please discuss. Sean Stephens (talk) 10:03, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

• Oppose- This is nonsensical and the singer may be the only unambiguous use of "Halsey" as a single word, but Halsey (surname) and its various associated articles are arguably more significant, and certainly more encyclopedic, meanings of the term. Sunrise In Brooklyn ✉ 13:47, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
• Support I honestly didn't expect to -- my standard for "last names redirect to a person" is pretty high. But this isn't exactly that, it's more a musical artist who goes solely by mononym. And in this case, among the titles on this disambiguation page, reader interest is obvious, with the singer getting a stunning 300 times the daily views of the next closest subject. And among those with the surname, the discrepancy is equally clear -- the singer gets on average close to 8000 views per day, while the next closest subject, the actor Brett Halsey, gets around 100 per day. There are certainly notable people with this surname, but no one near significant enough to go against the incredibly overwhelming intention of readers. And for those seeking to reach one of these subjects with the surname, we should include a hatnote to both the surname and general dab page, which would mean no more clicks, while aiding the clear majority of our readers searching the subject.--Yaksar (let's chat) 14:37, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
  • Yaksar (talk · contribs) This is a much better reason than I gave. I am grateful for your comprehensive explanation and hope others reflect on it prior to partaking in their vote. I think the overwhelming majority of readers who type "Halsey" in the search bar for this are aiming for this page, as you note. Sean Stephens (talk) 07:59, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose no justification in books. In ictu oculi (talk) 14:17, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
  • In ictu oculi (talk · contribs) Could you please elaborate? I don't quite understand what you're saying. Sean Stephens (talk) 07:59, 4 July 2021 (UTC)

https://www.google.co.uk/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=%22halsey+is%22&num=10 https://www.google.co.uk/search?tbo=p&tbm=bks&q=%22halsey+was%22&num=10 just this In ictu oculi (talk) 20:57, 6 July 2021 (UTC)

• Support. The singer is overwhelmingly—by orders of magnitude—the most popular article with the title (25 million in 6 years): see [2]. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:09, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
• Support per Yaksar. Bizarre Bizarre^{Talk modern to me} 22:11, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose. Good grief, no. William Halsey Jr. is far more significant and is often referred to just by his surname. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:10, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
• Support - the only reasonable choice for the six-letter word she uses as a stage name. I am aware that other people with this as their last name are significant too Red Slash 19:38, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
• Soft oppose: William Halsey Jr., while obviously getting much less pageviews than Halsey (singer) still gets about 1000 pageviews a day, and about 30,000 in the last month. (Source) I think Halsey the singer is likely to be the primary topic people are looking for when they look for a "Halsey" on Wikipedia, but the significance of William Halsey Jr. shouldn't be overlooked here. I think it might be best to keep the "(singer)" tag as it stands. --LivelyRatification (talk) 21:50, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
• Support per pageviews, people are far more likely to search for the article's subject in relation to the name.--Bettydaisies (talk) 22:22, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose, given the relative recency of the singer compared to the longstanding importance of both other people and of place names. BD2412 T 06:48, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
• Support per overwhelming page views advantage. QuietHere (talk) 23:37, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
• Support per pageviews as well as other similar situations (e.g. Cher, Selena, Bono, etc.). Thiqq (talk) 05:33, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose It's hard to know where to draw the line in these cases, but if Sia, Dido, and Sade aren't primary topics, then I don't see Halsey as one either. 162 etc. (talk) 19:27, 16 July 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose per 162 etc.'s reasoning. EthanRossie2000 14:39, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
• Oppose I think it’s fine as is. I don’t believe page views is automatic and unilateral. At least 30 people with articles actually have the surname Halsey. Who’s to say this Ashley Frangipane overrides them? Sade is a common Yoruba name and nickname, being a singer doesn’t mean she’s the head honcho of Sades. With Madonna… the other Madonna is literally ancient. Trillfendi (talk) 16:32, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
• Soft Oppose while Wikipedia:Recentism doesn't specificlly address this, in the long term the disam is more durable, and if pagviews are considered, doesn't seem readers are having difficulty finding the topic.Djflem (talk) 07:25, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
• Support per Yaksar. AshMusique (talk) 14:56, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
• Support as far as I'm concerned, the page views make it pretty clear that people are more likely searching for this singer than anybody else under the "Halsey" name. I also don't believe it's a case of recentism when she's been famous for quite some time now (as opposed to just a year or two). SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 18:17, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
• Support. I am not convinced a significant number readers searching for "Halsey" would be looking for someone other than the singer. Those looking for the admiral would much more likely look be searching for "Bull Halsey" rather than just use his last name. -- Calidum 18:49, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Semi-protected edit request on 20 August 2021

Their pronouns are They/Them not She/Her, change the pronouns to They/Them 2A00:23C7:7C27:E601:C070:4215:A53A:38B2 (talk) 18:12, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Please see discussions above. Either set of pronouns can be used. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:29, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

Pronoun usage

The subject recently was angered by an article that exclusively used she/her pronouns. Meanwhile, while announcing new pronouns a few months ago: "I am happy with either pronouns" but "The inclusion of 'they' in addition to 'she' feels most authentic to me." [emphasis mine] Subject seems to prefer she/they to be used interchangeably. I don't know what the Wikipedia style guides say about this. Thought I would open this up for discussion. Chase (talk | contributions) 15:12, 25 July 2021 (UTC)

I don't think we have any guideline or policy to either accept or reject using mixed pronouns when that is somebody's expressed preference, although I could be wrong. In any case, it would be an extra burden for the editors to have mixed pronouns, so I would prefer we stick to a single pronoun. Vpab15 (talk) 08:27, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

• I feel like the reason why Halsey was angered was because the article made it a point about talking about the pronouns she uses, and then going on to only use one of two sets, which isn't the case here. We include a footnote right after the first pronoun of the article acknowledging the two sets of pronouns, and then we provide a reason as to why we will only be using one set for the entire article. Then, we only talk about their preferred pronouns once, in the Personal life section. I do think that the footnote makes a valid point about consistency, and that switching between two sets of pronouns throughout the entire article could get confusing to both the readers and the editors. It would also be harder for the editors to edit, as they would have to think about which pronouns to use where, if one set is being used more than the other, etc. I think that it would be a good idea to stick with one set, but I do not have a preference as to which of the two sets we use. D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 12:51, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
• Halsey has specified their preference. We can't speculate on why we feel she might have done that in one instance and decide it doesn't apply elsewhere.'For consistency' is still disrespectful of their identity, I do not consider a footnote attempting to justify the reasoning adequate or appropriate, Making excuses for not respecting someone's pronouns because it's easier is still not respecting their pronouns. 49.199.204.152 (talk) 03:16, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
  • I agree with you when you say that Halsey has specified her preference, and I agree that we cannot speculate, because we largely do not have the option of contacting them to get their opinion on this. However (and I do not mean to be disrespectful in any way, shape or form), we have to keep in mind that this is a professional encyclopedia, and consistency is key. That is why we have a Manual of Style. In order for us to make sure that we include "they" in addition to "she" equally (as the subject has specified is her preference), we would need to estimate a ballpark amount of pronouns we use (when referring to Halsey as a person), and then replace around half of the "she/her"s with "they/them"s. And then do that to all of the other articles that mention Halsey (albums, songs, etc). And then periodically check up on each article to make sure one pronoun set is not being used more than the other. I'm not saying it's impossible, and I would be up for the challenge, but I (as a person who also uses a dual pronoun set) do think there is an easier alternative that is not necessarily being disrespectful to someone's identity. As well, I'm not trying to deflect in any way, but I noticed that you used strictly they/them pronouns in your message, which someone could perceive as hypocritical, especially when you're talking about respecting someone's identity and their usage of she/they pronouns equally and interchangeably. Thanks! D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 03:35, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
    • one she, two theirs. I was repeating myself and cut a swathe before posting, but it's still there. The last sentence is not referring to Halsey specifically. It's noted above that there isn't currently a style guide for this situation, so if one were going to be implemented I'd like to see it prioritise someone's preference, where known or reasonable to infer. There is a lot of confusion around multiple pronouns use and no way to apply a universal standard (as you're doubtless aware, stated for other contributors' benefit). Also a dual pronoun user. 49.199.204.152 (talk) 04:04, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
      • Sorry, I didn't notice that. Consider my comment struck through. I agree completely with your comment. For example, you can use either set of pronouns (he/him or they/them) when referring to me, and I won't mind. But, for Halsey, she likes the inclusion of they/them in addition to she/her, and they prefer to have them used interchangeably. But, the dictionary definition is whatever pronoun set you put first is the one you prefer, but you don't mind the other set being used. So, it would be very confusing to create a guideline for this, as you expressed. Thanks! D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 14:38, 21 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 August 2021

Halsey uses both she and they pronouns. There are only she/her pronouns in this article. Just changing a few pronouns would show your support. Mabelismydog (talk) 21:08, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. See #Pronoun usage above. D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 17:21, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 October 2021

Halsey’s pronouns are she/her or they/them. This is not stated in the page at all and needs to be addressed, either in the “about” table or in the introductory section. Halsey’s Instagram (@iamhalsey) correctly lists their pronouns. Thanks! 69.59.103.126 (talk) 12:45, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

This is addressed in the Personal life section, and it is addressed with a note on the first usage of pronouns. Nothing further needs said about it. —C.Fred (talk) 12:48, 8 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 November 2021

Halsey has the pronouns She/They, it would be more inclusive and respectful towards them to include the pronouns « They/Them » in the article 184.163.29.46 (talk) 16:05, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. See explanations above. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:26, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 November 2021

I would like to edit the grammar as Halsey uses she/they pronouns except the whole article uses she/her pronouns and I could not find they/ them pronouns added as well anywhere. Leannesmith916 (talk) 08:43, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. See discussion above ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:25, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 26 January 2022

Please use other uses for redirect to disambiguation page:

{{other uses|Halsey (disambiguation)}} 110.139.150.63 (talk) 01:41, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

 Done - FlightTime (open channel) 01:47, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 May 2022

Under the subtitle "Health" under personal life, there needs to be a paragraph added about her diagnosis of postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome. "Halsey is 'allergic to literally everything' since giving birth and has been hospitalized multiple times - CNN" https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/05/11/entertainment/halsey-health-conditions-hospitalizations/index.html 173.92.157.5 (talk) 04:38, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:20, 12 May 2022 (UTC)

Italian heritage

Re: "her father is mostly African-American with some distant Irish ancestry," I think her father should actually also be part Italian, as her uncle Joe Frangipane, who played basketball for Fordham University in the 1960s, is not black, and is probably of Italian heritage. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 17:38, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

Halsey's broken metatarsal bones

Am I only allowed to add factual information about their broken toe if it's from the media? I added a lot of information and added temporary references to be replaced by articles. All of it was taken out because Wikipedia doesn't do social media sources (even temporary ones to be replaced), I guess even if it holds evidence of it being true. I sort of understand why but I feel like if you can see from the reference that this happened it shouldn't be an issue. News may not report everything which means Wikipedia could be missing information because of the rules? There are a lot of rules and I may have missed/misinterpreted some so I think I'll just edit Halsey's Fandom Wiki, cause I'd cause a lot of disruption here.

Sawhitney36 (talk) 19:30, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Astonishingly, it is not exactly about you personally, since Wikipedia is an encyclopedia with a community of editors. This is a biographical entry about a living person. See WP:BLP and WP:NOT. Rainbow-five (talk) 19:03, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

I have only just seen this response because I forgot about making it. I appreciate that you responded with two pages for me to look at. I'm also very confused about "Astonishingly, it is not exactly about you personally", because I never said or implied that this was about me. Wikipedia can be a very confusing place and I do expect some people to have compassion and understanding and to address an issue without snark unless someone is actively attacking that person. I read WP:BLP for Self-published sources and was confused because there's nothing there that makes me understand why what I added was removed. I then read WP:Verifiability for Self-published sources and found nothing there (unless I am really missing something). I read WP:NOT and still don't understand how what I added was removed. Then I checked the reason for a removal and the person who removed it stated "WP:RSPTWITTER, WP:GUNREL". I checked both links and understand it was something related to using their social media as a source, there are rules around it, times when you can and can't use social media and that is the part that is confusing for me. I didn't (and still don't) understand why using Halsey's social media that is verified and doesn't provide speculation, gossip or unreliable unverified information is considered grounds for removal. Using Halsey's social media was actually temporary and to be replaced with verified news articles as I did note in an edit. Also to note I was not trying to be snarky in my original comment of editing Halsey's Fandom Wiki, I was expressing that rules wise, it's harder to edit here. TLDR: I read the suggested rules (WP:BLP, WP:NOT, WP:RSPTWITTER, WP:GUNREL) and I don't entirely understand why using Halsey's social media (sometimes you can use it, sometimes you can't?) in the way I did fits the ground for removal, I may just not be understanding it. I did expect compassion in the response, and was not trying to be snarky in the last line of my original comment, just expressing that it's hard to edit here with confusing rules. Sawhitney36 (talk) 06:34, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

'Halsey' named after the L train in Brooklyn

Under Notes, it says "There are, in fact, two Halsey Street stations in Brooklyn: one station is on the L train, and the other is on the J train. In a Rolling Stone interview, Halsey did not clarify which station she based her name on", the Rolling Stone interview was in 2016. In an interview with Vice in 2014 (https://www.vice.com/en/article/rkqqqn/halsey-interview-2014-57a206a6d94919df6669135e), in the first paragraph it states "Frangipane named her alter-ego after a subway stop, after frequent journeys on Brooklyn’s L-train", I'm wondering if this is good enough to confirm that it's the L train?

An insider article analysing Halsey's book of poems also states "This may reference Halsey's ex-boyfriend... he built an actual fountain named "hopeless fountain kingdom" off of the L train's Halsey street stop in Brooklyn." (https://www.insider.com/halsey-poetry-song-lyrics-i-would-leave-me-if-i-could-2020-11) Sawhitney36 (talk) 06:54, 19 December 2022 (UTC)

Potentially triggering content

Hi,

There is potentially triggering content in this article. Could a trigger warning please be added? Thank you in advance! Hm6978 (talk) 23:33, 25 June 2023 (UTC)

@Hm6978 Please see the content policy WP:No disclaimers for why there are no disclaimers put at the top of the article for a one-sentence mention of a heavy topic. —C.Fred (talk) 00:35, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 June 2024

Under 'Personal life', change 'On June 6, 2024, Halsey revealed they've been diagnosed with Lupus.' to 'On June 4, 2024, Halsey revealed she has been diagnosed with Lupus.'

This is because June 6 hasn't happened yet (their announcement was today, June 4), and the top of the article states it is using 'she/her' pronouns for simplicity. Axispedia (talk) 18:38, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

 Done Irltoad (talk) 19:53, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 June 2024 (2)

in the health section, it says that Halsey revealed that they have Lupus on 6 June 2024, but that date has not occurred yet. Did the editor mean, today, 4 June 2024? Timsands2 (talk) 19:34, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

 Done Irltoad (talk) 19:53, 4 June 2024 (UTC)