User talk:Geo Swan/archive/2011-07

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Nomination of Wafah Dufour for deletion

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I don't think you started this one, but you've contributed to it a couple of times. --GentlemanGhost (talk) 16:29, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for weighing in on the discussion. --GentlemanGhost (talk) 19:24, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Nice work on the refs, too! --GentlemanGhost (talk) 19:52, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks.

What her article really needs is a couple of nice free photos. One of the references I came across said that her beauty was balanced by her being an uncontrollable chain-smoker. Geo Swan (talk) 20:05, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

That would be good. Unfortunately, the Google free image search comes up empty, as I'm sure you noticed. Oh well, it will probably happen eventually. --GentlemanGhost (talk) 21:18, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Deleted article

Please see User_talk:Gwen_Gale#Could_you_please_explain.... Gwen Gale (talk) 17:00, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Joshua Dratel

Hi, I've been working on an article on Joshua Dratel and had gotten it to be a decent little stub. But then when I went to create it I discovered that it had been previously AFD'd and deleted from both versions of his name. Once I saw that I decided my stub needed to be a little better than decent so I've been working on it. Somebody just pointed out to me that you're working on an article on Joshua Dratel also, so I figured I should contact you.

Obviously I think the guy is notable and don't agree with the Delete arguments set out at the AFD. Still, I'm going to take those arguments seriously, so I want any new Joshua Dratel article to refute those arguments beyond a shadow of a doubt. I don't think the draft you've written quite does that as clearly as I like. (I'm not saying you haven't put a ton of work into it, you clearly have.) It's just that the flavor of the AFD made me expect any new article to encounter some good faith but strongly felt opposition.

Could you please hold off just a little bit on putting it in article main space to give me alittle more time to follow some leads? Right now I'm following up on some research ideas. Or at least let me know when it goes live so I'm ready to help out.

Or, if you are comfortable with it, could I collaborate on it while it's in your use space to help get it ready for rough seas ahead? Cloveapple (talk) 20:13, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

I responded via email. Geo Swan (talk) 22:18, 14 July 2011 (UTC)

Good work

Good work on the Afghan politician article. (I am deliberately not mentioning his name.) I just hope you can avoid an edit war with the deletionists. Let me know if I can be of any assistance. --DThomsen8 (talk) 14:44, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

ANI

Yeah, you might want to move it to WQA. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • ^{(Otters want attention)} 21:05, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

charles swift photo upload

Hi Geo, I recently ran across a photo you uploaded to commons and added it to the Charles Swift article. I wasn't able to access the source webpage pdf, and was wondering if you still had access to it or could send to me any further info about the circumstances surrounding the press conference. Thanks, R. Baley (talk) 02:29, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

I updated the link on the page to reflect the current location. The occasion was Salim Hamdan's conviction. This article is in two parts -- unfortunately the page numbers in most issues of the wire often don't match the actual page numbers, which might make it more difficult for you to find the second part.

Here are some other DoD documents that mention Swift's role... Geo Swan (talk) 13:57, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

• Shanita Simmons (2008-02-12). "Military court hears arguments in Hamdan case". JTF Guantanamo Public Affairs. Retrieved 2011-07-19. During a press conference, Swift said the prosecution's failure to produce particular documents prevents them from properly filing motions and adequately preparing their case. However, Army Col. Larry Morris, chief prosecutor, said the defense [sic] has done what the law requires, which is to provide all requested evidence that is material and relevant to the defense's case.
• Shanita Simmons (2008-02-18). "Court hears arguments in Hamdan case". The Wire (JTF-GTMO). Retrieved 2011-07-19. "The prosecution seemed to have no record of the interrogation SOP's in place during Hamdan's detainment…they have no record of detainee treatment…no record of guards' instructions…no records of what camp Hamdan was in during that period," Charles Swift, lead defense attorney, said.
• Rich Federico. "Seeking Justice at Guantanamo Bay" (PDF). Jag Mag. Retrieved 2011-07-19. In 2006, the Supreme Court ruled on a historic challenge filed by retired judge advocate, LCDR Charlie Swift, on behalf of a Yemeni detainee alleged to have been the driver for Osama bin Laden. In Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, the Supreme Court held that the military commissions created by President Bush lacked power to proceed as they violated both the Uniform Code of Military Justice and the Geneva Conventions.
• Vaugh Larsen (2008-08-15). "The verdict is in". JTF-GTMO. Retrieved 2011-07-19. Hamdan, who was shaken following the split verdict last Wednesday, was in notably higher spirits Thursday. He shared an emotional hug with retired Navy Lt. Cmdr. Charlie Swift, who began representing Hamdan in 2002.
• Kathleen T. Rhem (2006-03-28). "Supreme Court Hears Arguments on Legality of Military Commissions". American Forces Press Service. Retrieved 2011-07-19. Hamdan's case has taken a circuitous route to the Supreme Court. He first appeared in court in a military commission pre-trial hearing at Guantanamo Bay in August 2004. That hearing ended with the presiding officer granting a continuance for the defense while senior officials in the commissions process ruled on a request by Hamdan's military attorney, Navy Lt. Cmdr. Charles Swift, to have several panel members removed for cause.
• Kathleen T. Rhem (2004-08-25). "First Military Commission Hearing Ends in Continuance for Defense". American Forces Press Service. Retrieved 2011-07-19. In this first hearing, Navy Lt. Cmdr. Charlie Swift, the government-appointed attorney for Yemeni national Salim Ahmed Hamdan, challenged the appointment of five officials to the panel that will decide on his client's guilt or innocence.

User_talk:Bearian#Could_you_please_explain...

I answered there. Bearian (talk) 20:23, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Please oversee

Hi Geo Swan, a user AlimNaz is editing wiki articles in an unorganized and in appropriate manner. Many of his edits are erroneous or awry. For example, recently in the article Jan Muhammad Khan his edits were more or less like a news service. I notified this one the talk page but much is to be desired about the rest of his edits. This is evident from the brawling nature on his talk page. Whatever his intentions, Please advise him. I hope something good comes out of this. Dr Pukhtunyar Afghan (talk) 22:49, 19 July 2011 (UTC)