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DYK for Somos familia

The DYK project (nominate) 23:21, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

Golden Martín Fierro Award winners/2002 Oscars

Hello there,

I gave you one piece of feedback regarding Golden Martín Fierro Award winners. I may take a second look, but you'll have to be patient. I also addressed your concerns for 74th Academy Awards. Thank you.

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Incomplete DYK nomination

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Nomination of Mantero for deletion

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2014 Venezuelan Protests

Cambalachero, I need your help.

User Communist-USSR has deleted much of my work on the protest page and will only support ideas on the page that are left viewed. No matter how hard I try to negotiate, he always deletes my information. With greatest sincerity, --Zfigueroa (talk) 17:35, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Maybe you can first discuss before you add it again, as I have suggested multiple times...--Communist-USSR (talk) 17:48, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

@Zfigueroa:, I have noticed that there are many edits in the article, but I got lost on the several changes going on, and I don't have a complete knowledge of the whole thing. I'm from another country, and although the events in Venezuela usually appear in the international news of my newspapers and news TV channels, I'm surely not completely familiar with the background in the local scale. For instance, I know who are Maduro and Capriles, but not the others. And I don't know which things are real and which things are paranoid delusions (for example, is there an actual advocacy of the 2002 coup, or does Maduro say that just to victimize himself?). Please prepare a list of the things that you tried to add to the article and which were removed, with the proper context, and explain it at the talk page of the article. That way I can understand better what are we talking about, and other users may take part in the discussion if needed.

@Communist-USSR:, Zfigueroa is saying that you are editing following left-wing ideas. I have not checked that myself, but consider that the username that you have chosen may easily make anyone suspect that. You should consider changing it to some other username. Cambalachero (talk) 18:31, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

I have tried to negotiate with ::@Communist-USSR: but we could not reach an agreement. He has refused to let me add information with multiple, reliable sources because he didn't approve of them. --Zfigueroa (talk) 20:28, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Should I use my information about the Adamsite usage? I don't want to be blocked because of a reverting war that a user brought me in. I really want to show both sides of the coin for this article so people can choose what they believe.

--Zfigueroa (talk) 02:52, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank You

Thanks for pointing out the change to the image on the Falkland Islands Task Force. I realise you didn't have to do it but you did the right thing in calling attention to it, despite I rather suspect some sympathy with it. Un abrazo. Wee Curry Monster talk 22:18, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

Since I'm craving one and you helped me with 2014 Venezuelan protests! Zfigueroa (talk) 02:53, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

ITN

Youshould probably post an explicit support or oppose vote at the nomination. It won't get momentum without explicit votes. μηδείς (talk) 23:18, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

I apologise

User:Wee Curry Monster has commented on my talk page [1] that he considers my suspicion of you is groundless. After thinking about it a bit more and digging around, I realised that he is probably right and my suspicion was groundless. I'd like to apologise for raising it in the first place and causing you additional distress. BedsBookworm (talk) 11:41, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

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2014 Venezuelan Protests infobox

I was wondering if you could look at the changes I made to the info box on the article and see if it's better. I showed sources for the causes of the protests and updated a few things. Thanks for you help with the article! --Zfigueroa (talk) 01:57, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

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Hermética

Thanks for the help Cambalachero (talk) 16:02, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Invite to Corruption in Argentina

Greetings Cambalachero, I noticed that you edit a lot of pages related to Argentina including several about political scandals and corruptions. I spent the better part of the last two months creating the page for Corruption in Argentina, and I think it needs a fresh pair of eyes. Any chance you might be able to help? DaltonCastle (talk) 19:53, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Saw you did some work on the page. Thanks for the fresh look.DaltonCastle (talk) 07:12, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

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Argentine History

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DYK for Sres. Papis

The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Outstanding!

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DYK for Guapas

Victuallers (talk) 00:02, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Mercedes Morán

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DYK for Mercedes Scápola

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Hello again!

Just wanted to know if you wanted to take a look at the 2014 Venezuelan protests again. Right now we only have another 2 users and I editing the page and there can be a division of views right now. I just know you've done some edits in the past and I'm looking for more fresh stuff. Thank you for your previous help too!--Zfigueroa (talk) 16:26, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Arbitration amendment request declined

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Newark mayoral election, 2014 DYK reiview

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DYK for Alfredo Alcón

The DYK project (nominate) 10:33, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

A pleasant surprise. Nice job! I did quite a lot of the initial leg work on Argentine films and actors on here. Most of them are in desperate need of expanding. Libertad Lamarque especially! You're welcome to join WP:Actors and Wikipedia:WikiProject Film/Argentine cinema task force.♦ Dr. Blofeld 12:50, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Rodolfo Canicoba Corral

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Bolivarian propaganda article

Just passing along the message that the Bolivarian propaganda article may be up for deletion. If you could provide your opinion or even edit the article, it would be greatly appreciated. More information can be found on the article and its talk page.--Zfigueroa (talk) 21:04, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

The Bolivarian propaganda article is now headed for deletion.--Zfigueroa (talk) 02:24, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Very short articles

Please add relevant information to ALL Argentine people and TV shows articles. Very short stub-articles look very uncomfortable at first sight.

Add at least the birth date and more info about that people. Lgcsmasamiya (talk) 14:57, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

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William Brydone Jack Observatory

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• And once again, thanks! HazelAB (talk) 13:09, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

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Andrea Doria FAC

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Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/2013 Rosario gas explosion/archive1

Hi Cambalachero! Just wanted to let you know, in case you haven't already seen, that I left some comments for you at the Rosario gas explosion FAC. Cheers! ceranthor 02:38, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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Thank you. It's just the third, but the list slowly grows up. Cambalachero (talk) 14:17, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Camino al Amor

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Rust

Hello Cambalachero. First of all, congratulations on the latest featured article you've brought. My concern was, are you currently able to do a GA review on Rust in Peace? It's been nominated four months ago, but no one has shown desire to start the process. Really big thanks if you have time to do the job.--Retrohead (talk) 08:54, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

The last time I made a review things did not end very well, but you're right, I should do that again. Cambalachero (talk) 14:05, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

I assume you've had an experience with a hostile editor the last time. But don't worry, L1A1 FAL is a real sweetheart and you'll have no problems with him, I guarantee that.--Retrohead (talk) 21:44, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

Аргентина в Первой мировой войне

Hi! Whether there is no desire to write article about Argentina of times of World War I in English and Spanish Wikipedias? I will be grateful! Best regards, Лукас Фокс (talk) 13:02, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'm in the process of moving to a new house, and I don't have a lot of time to start complex articles. But you may ask to the people from Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history, and surely you'll find someone who can help you. Cambalachero (talk) 15:28, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

ok. thank you! Лукас Фокс (talk) 05:23, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Viudas e hijos del Rock and Roll

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Lower Decks

Thanks again for both GA reviews! - adamstom97 (talk) 17:54, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

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Recent revert

The reason for my edit that you reverted[2] was that the article is listed on the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Star_Trek table as ??? see also https://wp1.openzim.org/#/project/Star_Trek/articles?quality=Stub-Class&importance=Unknown-Class

I may not have gotten the exact formatting right but if you could evaluate or fix the article so it is not flagged that would be helpful. -- 109.79.167.240 (talk) 22:32, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

That's because wikiprojects tag articles by article quality, and by importance. Quality is how developed the article is, and it's the same for all (that's why the banner provides a global value). Importance is the significance of the topic of the article for the wikiproject, and it varies for each one (and some do not even have that parameter). This article was already tagged by quality, but it lacked the importance, I just added it. Cambalachero (talk) 01:45, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Article declined due to misinterpretation?

Hey there! I've tried to reply to you through my own talk page but I'm not sure you'll see that, so I'll try to reach you through here.

You've recently declined the article "Draft:Shylmagoghnar", because only 1 of their 3 albums were released through Napalm Records. You wrote that the others were released independently and that the band may be considered notable after another release through Napalm Records.

This is false however, as two of their three albums were released through Napalm Records, which is mentioned in the article. As far as I can see, criterium #5 for Wikipedia Notability (Music) is satisfied.

Could you possibly take a look at this again? Thank you kindly! Shyrtokae (talk) 14:02, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes, the Napalm page was confusing, it made it seem as if only the last CD was released by them. I will try to fix this. Cambalachero (talk) 14:50, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you very kindly for your help! Shyrtokae (talk) 19:46, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

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A brownie for you!

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DYK for 2024 opening of regular sessions of the National Congress of Argentina

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CfD nomination at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 May 15 § Rename of Alien invasions in media et al.

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DYK for History of the extraterrestrial life debate

On 23 May 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article History of the extraterrestrial life debate, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Plato and Aristotle both opposed the idea of extraterrestrial life? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/History of the extraterrestrial life debate. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, History of the extraterrestrial life debate), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Voyager 2

Hey, thanks for opening GAR. I'm on a break and will be back soon. I will be responding to the queries whenever possible since I'm travelling quite a bit. Please bear with me. Thanks. — The Herald (Benison) (talk) 05:37, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for putting it on hold. I'll get to right away. Thanks again :) The Herald (Benison) (talk) 02:42, 7 June 2024 (UTC)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Ultimate Spider-Man (2024) (June 26)

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AfC notification: Draft:Ultimate Spider-Man (2024) has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Ultimate Spider-Man (2024). Thanks! Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 17:21, 28 June 2024 (UTC)