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FiiO F9 image

Lily is the PR of FiiO. I asked her to upload the image to Flickr with CC-BY or C0. You can see another article I have written UE 900 - I also asked the PR of Logitech to upload the images to Flickr. The reason is I couldn't find any photo of F9 on Flickr and I don't have F9 to take a photo by myself. Hope I cleared this misunderstanding. In case I haven't, I can send you screenshots of my emails with her whereby I guide her how to upload images on Flickr (in the e-mails it can be seen that she is replying from pr@fiio.net.) I'm not sure whether it would be appropriate for me to vote "keep", I think the better course of action would be if you could withdraw the nomination.Dmatteng (talk) 19:23, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

@Dmatteng: The problem is that ANYONE can make a Flickr account claiming to be anyone they want. If someone uploads a whole bunch of photos from the same camera, then we generally take it on faith that the uploader is the author of those photos (unless there is evidence to the contrary). But if someone uploads only a single image or a small number of images, then we need to have some sort of evidence that the license is valid. --B (talk) 01:34, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Would you be satisfied if they would re-upload the image in the original resolution? BTW, have you seen my comment in the discussion ? Dmatteng (talk) 19:24, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

@Dmatteng: if you are in contact with this company, just ask them to submit the form at WP:CONSENT. If they don't understand English, Commons:Email templates/Consent has this in other languages. The problem with just re-uploading a different image is that this Flickr account is not authenticated as an OFFICIAL account for the company and so we have no way of knowing whether the person uploading to Flickr actually has the legal authority to speak on their behalf. I have access to a huge library of images from my employer (logos, promotional photos, etc) but that doesn't mean that I would have the authority to license other people to use those photos. Or if they were to acknowledge the Flickr account or the statement of license from their official website, that would be fine too. But probably the easiest thing to do is to just have them fill out the consent form and attach the image(s) to the email. --B (talk) 14:56, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Hi again Dmatteng. What B has posted above is similar to what I posted at User talk:Marchjuly/Archives/2018/November#FiiO F9 image. Once the copyright ownership has been verified by OTRS, you should have no problem getting the file restored per WP:REFUND. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:05, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

The problem is that as of now they are not replying to me. How about AGF? I'm a long-term editor on the Wikipedia, been editing for a good number of years. There is simply no reason to make whitewashing of this image. I now own F9 Pro and could take a photo by myself, but it will be of inferior quality. Dmatteng (talk) 18:46, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

A 100% free equivalent image (even of inferior quality) which can essentially serve the same encyclopedic purpose of primary identification is likely going to be preferred over a questionably free equivalent image or a non-free equivalent image of higher quality. As originally posted at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2018 November 5#File:Fiio f9.jpg, I think the design is probably utilitarian enough so as to not be eligible for copyright protection; so, perhaps you can take a photo of the ones you purchased and upload them to Commons. Just be careful of c:COM:Packaging. If you want some more feedback on whether Commons will really accept such a photo, you can ask at c:COM:VPC.

The Wikipedia file was deleted by Fastily via a FFD discussion. I'm not an admin, so I don't have the tools to restore it even if I wanted to, but I couldn't even if I had the tools because of WP:INVOLVED. B is an admin and has the tools, but he probably cannot restore the file for similar reasons even if he wanted to. So, you can post something on Fastily's user talk page per WP:CLOSECHALLENGE and see what he says. You can also request a WP:DRV to see what others might say. -- Marchjuly (talk) 23:38, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Alternate image hosting?

You deleted my sandbox due to violating the image hosting policies. I don't disagree with you as I was a tad bit misinformed about the policies beforehand. However, I would like to ask a couple questions. 1. Is there anyway an image can be hosted off of wikipedia and still be linked to the wiki? 2. If not, as long as I don't upload images that aren't relevant to the wiki itself, can I continue creating the material I was before? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChaosCron (talk • contribs) 16:26, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

• @ChaosCron: Neither Wikipedia nor Commons are free webhosting. Images that do not have an educational use cannot be uploaded to Commons. Pages that do not further the aim of creating an encyclopedia cannot be created on Wikipedia. If you want to create a work of fiction, there are plenty of ways to host that work. You can even Download the MediaWiki software and install it on your own web server. But it can't be hosted here. An image hosted off of Wikipedia/Commons cannot be linked to from Wikipedia. If the image is going to be used in an encyclopedia article and meets with our image use policy, then it should be uploaded here (the vast majority of the images on the internet are copyrighted and are NOT acceptable to use here). If it's not going to be used in an encyclopedia article, then it is not needed here. Active Wikipedia contributors are allowed to have a user page with a brief biography or useful information about themselves, but extensive writings unrelated to the building of an encyclopedia are never permitted here. --B (talk) 16:32, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

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Proposed deletion of File:The Jazz Café Logo.png

The file File:The Jazz Café Logo.png has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Unused logo with no article used, it's also can't move to commons because of an unused logo will be deleted as of out of project scope.

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated files}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the file's talk page.

Please consider addressing the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated files}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and files for discussion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Willy1018 (talk) 14:07, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

• @Willy1018: This was the former logo for The Jazz Café and I have moved it to Commons and added it to Commons:Category:Jazz Cafe (London). --B (talk) 14:32, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
  • Thank you for your help.Willy1018 (talk) 10:05, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Bush portrait on 1DEC2018.jpg

I don't believe there was a consensus to delete File:Bush portrait on 1DEC2018.jpg [1]. The portrait has been released by the National Portrait Gallery under a non-commercial use license, demonstrating to a reasonable degree that it does — in fact — also own the copyright to the portrait it commissioned and owns. The fact it is released as non-commercial use is, itself, irrelevant as we know the USG routinely mislabels or applies erroneously restrictive licensing terms to images it makes available online and we (WP) routinely ignore those when applied. The mere demonstration of any form of release, however, as I mentioned, demonstrates ownership of IP. Can you reopen the discussion? Chetsford (talk) 21:26, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

• @Chetsford: I don't see any evidence of a license at [2] and even if there were a non-commercial license, that wouldn't demonstrate ownership of the copyright - it could just mean that they had a license from the painter to redistribute non-commercially. The National Portrait Gallery may own the physical portrait itself, but there is no basis for believing that they own the copyright to it. Though this is not "the" official Presidential portrait of Bush, it may be worth reading the note at the bottom of Portraits_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States#Gallery_of_presidential_portraits - portraits of Presidents that came after Carter (plus Ford for some reason) are all copyrighted. There is simply no evidence that the copyright to this portrait was transferred. A "consensus" to delete at IFD is not required if there is a copyright violation. --B (talk) 21:43, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

No prob (Just in point of clarification, it is incorrect to say "portraits of Presidents that came after Carter (plus Ford for some reason) are all copyrighted" - if I paint a portrait of Reagan tomorrow I am free to release the copyright as I see fit. The portraits commonly referred to as "official White House portraits" are, indeed, all copyrighted post-Carter; however, not any portrait anyone happens to paint of any post-Carter president is suddenly enveloped by a super-secret copyright corollary. To your confusion as to why these portraits are copyrighted, it's because — beginning with Reagan — the series was commissioned by the WHHA instead of the EOP, though this is an irrelevant digression in this instance as the portrait in question is an entirely separate image commissioned by the Smithsonian.) Anyway, I'm tied down with some other things right now so I may not have a chance to take this to deletion review for a couple weeks but will ping you once I get around to it. Thanks for your fast reply! Chetsford (talk) 21:47, 28 December 2018 (UTC)

May I suggest you clarify the sentence If you are a "contractor", then unless you are actually self-employed and you own the copyright to anything you create, unless you specifically have a contract that assigns the copyright to the company/entity that engaged your services. ? I've read it a few times and still can't parse it. Either I'm missing something or it's got a surplus or deficit of a word or two. It's useful education, I think. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 00:02, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

It is a confusing construction. I believe what they meant was that a contract employee of the USG can't be treated as a regular employee of the USG. While that may or may not be true, when visual art is done on the basis of "work for hire" the copyright transfers with the physical object. The artist's only residual rights are in prevention of its alteration or destruction, and correct crediting. However, a commissioned portrait (which applies in this case) is not a "work for hire" under U.S. Copyright Law unless it is otherwise designated as such by the contracting and contracted parties. In this case, the portrait was otherwise designated, however, before I could proceed to offer further evidence of that point the file was deleted (which is ultimately my fault as I was offline for the last few days). I'll take this back up in a couple weeks when I have more time. Chetsford (talk) 00:46, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

@AlanM1: remove the first "unless" (which I have struck) - that was a typo. "Contract employees" are not employees. @Chetsford: unless you have a FOIA request for a copy of the contract, I'm not sure how you could demonstrate that. One further annoyance is that, though the federal government cannot CREATE a copyrighted work, it can own copyrights that are transferred to it. So if I (an independent contractor) create a creative work and my contract uses the magic words that we agree my work is a "work for hire", then it's public domain, but if my contract uses the magic words that I agree to "assign my copyright to the government", then it is copyrighted. For a company, that's probably a distinction without difference (it would be the difference between the copyright lasting 95 years vs my lifetime plus 70 years I guess?), but for the federal government, it's the difference between public domain and copyrighted. Of course, in the case of this particular picture, if the copyright was transferred to the government, then that would be good enough for us - because we're only trying to use the government's own derivative work. So basically we're good with that in any case other than the artist still retaining the copyright. Unfortunately, however, there is no evidence that the artist did not retain the copyright. --B (talk) 03:08, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Correct, and since the file has been deleted, no evidence that the artist did not retain the copyright can be presented. Chetsford (talk) 03:12, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

@Chetsford: well, no, it can be presented at any time, but in any event, by the time you typed that, I had already undeleted it and relisted it at Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2018 December 29 ;). --B (talk) 03:14, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

I think we were ships passing in the night ... I did the same! Thanks again. Chetsford (talk) 03:28, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

File:Combate Americas' Fighters on a Beach.jpg

You overwrote this with a different picture. Does the ticket apply to both pictures?

Also, seems that someone managed to get {{split media}} deleted, so the only way to handle overwritten files may be to list them at FFD and request splitting there. Sigh... --Stefan2 (talk) 01:40, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

@Stefan2: I didn't even notice they were different. I will delete the old one. --B (talk) 11:07, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

Portal:Bible/Featured chapter/By date

Hello, I believe you created this page or worked on it at some point. I've been maintaining it without any real knowledge of the code there. I've managed to keep it working until I tried to add 2019, and I don't know what I did wrong but I can't get it to work. If you can, please help. Thank you. Donnie Love (talk) 20:19, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

• @Donnie Love: Fixed. It was a broken curly brace. ;) This is amazing work you are doing - I hadn't looked back at it in a while. --B (talk) 01:50, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. Donnie Love (talk) 03:35, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Liz Mair Photo

Hello. Please tell me how to resolve any issues with the Liz Mair photo. If the photo size is too large, will that be resolved by Wikipedia or do I need to submit a new one? When I uploaded the photo, I had never done this before, so I do not believe I correctly filled in all the required information about its use I (about "non-free use"). I found the information to be somewhat confusing, so I sort of guessed on how to fill it out. This photo is the sole property of Liz Mair. This is a "selfie" portrait, so there is no issue of copyright issues with an outside photographer. Liz Mair has given her permission for this photo from her Twitter account to be used on her Wiki page. Should another photo that is not in use elsewhere be substituted? My volunteer involvement on the Mair page is limited to formatting it. I have not, in any way, written, edited, or contributed to the content, and do not have any affiliation to any person or organization listed within it other than a casual acquaintance through another person with the subject (and I am a Democrat). I want to comply with all Wiki policies. A non-technical explanation would be appreciated. Thank you!PNW Raven (talk) 14:23, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

@PNW Raven: I'm going to use my psychic powers and assume you are referring to File:Liz Mair photo from Twitter.jpeg (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). In order to accept this photo, we would need permission to be on file from the photographer. Wikipedia:Declaration of consent for all enquiries has a form that you can ask the copyright holder (photographer) to email to permissions-en@wikimedia.org. Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission has more information for you and explains the process. (Though Wikipedia will use certain photos under a claim of fair use, this is never permitted for photos of living people.) --B (talk) 22:16, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

Yes, that is indeed the file I'm referring to. I so appreciate your speedy and understandable explanation. I can contact Liz Mair, who is the subject and the photographer of the photo, and ask her to email this form to Wikipedia. I have certainly learned a lot by working on this page. Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! PNW Raven (talk) 22:52, 14 January 2019 (UTC)

@PNW Raven: Please note that if the person claiming to be the copyright holder is depicted in the photo, then they will get a reply asking them HOW they are the copyright holder. From looking at this image, I think it's a selfie? So in this case, when she sends the email to permissions-en, she should note in there that she is the photographer and that the image is a selfie. (A lot of people who - in good faith - submit statements of permission for an image aren't actually the photographer and the photographer is usually the person we need to hear from. If you hire a professional photographer to take photos at, say, your wedding, your contract usually stipulates that they retain the copyright and so they - not you - are the copyright holder. But in this case, it looks like a selfie, so she just needs to point that out.) --B (talk) 01:16, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

It is indeed a selfie from her official Twitter account and is the one she requested be used. I will make sure she knows to indicate in the form that she is the both the subject and the photographer. Again, thanks for all your help.PNW Raven (talk) 10:03, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago

Awesome

Ten years!

Happy 2019! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:03, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Screenshot reduce

Thanks so much for reducing the image size!, You reducing the size of this image absolutely helps thiis project in every single way!, Thanks to your help the image is so much more readable than what it was before!. Thanks again for your valued edit here. –Davey2010^Talk 20:30, 1 March 2019 (UTC)

@Davey2010: The change was made pursuant to my close of Wikipedia:Files_for_discussion/2018_December_8#File:BBC_iPlayer_Screenshot.png and should not be unilaterally reverted. If you think that this image should be an exception to our guidelines, you should be able to convince at least one uninvolved administrator of that. --B (talk) 17:44, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Immediately undo your actions please, You've now your bit to essentially "win" this dispute which should not be done as per WP:ADMINABUSE, The original size was 1,364 × 5,065 which is what Ron had an issue with - I cropped the image as well as reduced it and no one as far as I know had an issue with this, If you have an issue with the image then you should've started another FFD,

You were BOLD by further reducing the size however your edits have been reverted so as such your next step should be FFD not' instantly reducing the file and then hiding all revisions,

My changes were done as a middle ground - It meets fair but also the image can be seen sufficiently - If others disagree with me (and agree with your changes) then I'll leave the file alone but that FFD was inregards to the large file size and not my changes.

Thanks, –Davey2010^Talk 18:05, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

I hadn't realised you were the closer so as such ignore the above reply, It's a shame that you prefer following policies letter by letter over following (or atleast having) some common sense .... In the grand scheme of things all's you've done is rendered an image useless and for what ? ... to satisfy the other admin who's hell bent on everything being at 100 x 100 because "why not" apparently ....

Your edits have not improved this project nor have they helped our readers .... which is what we're all here for and which is why I enlarged the image ever so slightly, Shame. –Davey2010^Talk 23:54, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

Nomination for merging of Template:OP

Template:OP has been nominated for merging with Template:OTRS pending. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 23:47, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

B-bot not tagging orphaned fair use images

I noticed that B-bot has not been tagging orphaned fair use images for about a week now and I wanted to let you know in case there something needed to be done to fix it. Aspects (talk) 09:01, 12 April 2019 (UTC)

• @Aspects: Thanks, sorry, I have been away. I will look at it immediately. --B (talk) 19:19, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
  • This is running again. --B (talk) 20:22, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

Incorrect message was left on my talk page. I uploaded the image even though there already was a link the bot isn't picking up.

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⚠ Thanks for uploading File:The 35th Annual National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences Suncoast Chapter Emmy Award Winners.pdf. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media). Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 02:44, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

A link to the list of winners is Suncoast_Chapter#Historical_Emmy_award_winners and has been here.--Wyn.junior (talk) 19:02, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

@Wyn.junior: This kind of file is not valid under Wikipedia's fair use policy. Supporting documentation should be linked to on an appropriate external site, not hosted here. --B (talk) 20:23, 19 April 2019 (UTC)

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Flawed bot logic

On the article Mainland High School, a new user mistakenly uploaded a non-free image to Commons to replace the old logo, rather than Wikipedia. The image was deleted, and User:Filedelinkerbot, rather than reverting to the prior link of the old image, simply removed the image link. This left the article with no infobox image, a rather boring look. User:B-Bot then flagged the old image as orphaned, marking it for speedy deletion. Without user intervention, a logo that has stood on that page for 12 years would've been gone. This would have essentially been a bot-led vandalism. Additional logic should be written into this bot's code to check for such issues prior to such brash action to see if an easy fix is possible based on why the image was orphaned. ----Vox Rationis (Talk | contribs) 03:14, 10 June 2019 (UTC)

• @Vox Rationis: The issue is one that would need to be fixed with Filedelinkerbot - maybe in the limited case where it remove an image from an infobox, it could look and see if that image had one that was there immediately prior and if it was, restore that image. For B-bot, there is nothing that we can do because by the time B-bot tags it as an orphan, it is already long gone from the article. --B (talk) 18:11, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Precious anniversary

Precious

Four years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:52, 30 June 2019 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Akufo Addo.jpg

I am not on Wikipedia as often as I used to for various reasons. I just noticed today that the above image is tagged for deletion within the next 2 days because it is an orphaned non-free image. I am left puzzled as this image is still in the infobox of the page Edward Akufo-Addo as I type this. It has not been deleted. Am I missing something here? I thought of removing the tag as advised on section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion but opted to wait for your advice.--Natsubee (talk) 03:52, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@Natsubee: From the history of that article, a user made an edit breaking the infobox on June 17. The image was then tagged for deletion. On June 25, the change was reverted. On June 27, shortly after your message, the bot re-examined the image, saw it was in use, and removed the deletion tag. After images are tagged for deletion as orphaned, the bot looks at them every two days over the seven-day period - and the last time is right before the seven days expires - so if the image is re-added to an article, it should get detected and the tag should be removed. (And, of course, administrators deleting the images should also be checking.) --B (talk) 11:36, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Native Union Logo.png

Hello, I've used this image in an article that's currently under review (Draft: Native Union). Do I need to wait until the article is published before I re-upload this image for the company infobox? Soyoungpark.nu (talk) 02:55, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Why did you move Valin Shinyei from AFC to mainspace despite IP user saying it's problematic

You seem to have moved Valin Shinyei from AFC to mainspace https://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Valin_Shinyei&diff=prev&oldid=552794079 despite it being declined and never-resubmitted for approval. Also in the previous edit, an IP user said the article was problematic --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 12:37, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

@Tyw7: Umm ... you're asking me about something I did in 2013??? I obviously don't remember what I did six years ago, but in the diff you linked, I fixed the capitalization of an article that was already in the namespace. I assume what you are really asking about is several diffs later. In that one, I was repairing a copy/paste move. I wasn't the one who moved it to the mainspace - rather, I corrected the capitalization and copied the revisions from AFC into the article that someone else had created in the mainspace. --B (talk) 15:53, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

B, well the diff makes it seem that you prematurely moved the article from AFC to mainspace. I suspect it was the article creator who prematurely moved it.

Is there any way to find out who did the copypasta move? --Tyw7 (🗣️ Talk) — If (reply) then (ping me) 17:56, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

File details

Hi! I'd like to use your photo File:Poutine at Le Champlain in Quebec City.jpg in poutine (a recent GA) and was wondering if you could identify what toppings are on the poutine? Thanks. – Reidgreg (talk) 15:55, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

• @Reidgreg: - fortunately, I took a photo of the menu. The description they gave was "french fries and smoked cheese, BBQ pork from Ferme Beaurivage and herbs sour cream". --B (talk) 16:12, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
  • That's great! I've added it to the image description. Thanks so much! – Reidgreg (talk) 18:35, 26 August 2019 (UTC)

File:VERIDIA Numb Single Cover.jpg

File:VERIDIA Numb Single Cover.jpg (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello. I just received an email from the bot about this file. The bot is accurate that it's not linked to a live article. I'm currently working on the article and hope to have it published by tomorrow. Please do not delete or orphan the file as I do plan to use it. Thanks! --MJC8104 (talk) 18:14, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

@MJC8104: The best practice is to use a placeholder for non-free images articles that are in development. That way, it doesn't get tagged as an orphan - and you can replace the placeholder with a non-free image right before you make the article live. I see that you have made the article live now and the image is there, so no harm/no foul. --B (talk) 12:42, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

File:San Francisco Scott McKenzie.jpg

File:San Francisco Scott McKenzie.jpg (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi. Your bot left me a message about this file. Could you (real person!) look at the history of that file, and also the message I left at its talk page. What happened was that the image that I originally uploaded was then overwritten by a new editor who didn't realise what they were doing, replacing my file with a different image. For some reason, unknown to me, I was unable to revert that change. I re-uploaded the original image as a different file, but you may need to check that the correct file is the one to be deleted. (I think it is, so, hopefully, no worries.) Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:21, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

@Ghmyrtle: It doesn't especially matter which one is deleted - I see the image is at File:Scott McKenzie San Francisco Ode label.jpg (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) and everything looks good there - so there is no need to change anything. I'm not sure why you weren't able to revert the upload - you should have been able to. In any event, it looks like all is well. --B (talk) 12:40, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. When I tried to revert the change that had been made, I was getting the "It looks as though the change has already been reverted by another editor" message (or however the wording goes). I'm sure it wasn't simply me being stupid (often happens!) as it hadn't happened elsewhere before and I tried several times. So, it may have been a glitch somewhere along the line. Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:33, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

File:Familyguyseason17.jpg

File:Familyguyseason17.jpg (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hello. i need you to delete this picture of family guy season 17 because i publish the new dvd cover and i will like you to put iy up for deletion please and thank you. --Homerfan12 (talk) 18:14, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Homerfan12 The image has been tagged for deletion as an unused media file and your inappropriate removal of the FUR and license has been reverted. --AussieLegend (✉) 04:28, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

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File:Be Happy by Mary J Blige US commercial cassette.jpg

Your bot automatically removed the image, claiming that the page lacks rationale. However, the page already does, so I undid the edit. Why does the bot not recognize it? --George Ho (talk) 23:48, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

• Hi @George Ho: - if you look, my bot only tagged the image as orphaned. It was, at that particular moment, orphaned. A different bot - JJMC89 bot (talk · contribs) - had removed it from the page because it (apparently) lacked a rationale. Of course, what had really happened is that Anthony Appleyard (talk · contribs) moved the page and did not update the link in the rationale. So JJMC89 bot, thinking that the rationale was for a different article, dutifully removed it. My bot, seeing that the image was orphaned, tagged it for deletion. Maybe JJMC89 bot could be updated to check for recent page moves before orphaning images? That's really what needs to be done here - update the rationale if a page is moved. I can't really do it because by the time I get to it, it has already been orphaned and I can't distinguish between a bot accidentally orphaning it, a vandal maliciously orphaning it, or an editor making a content decision to remove the image. --B (talk) 18:40, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Hi

Hi,how do you run a bot? Linxi 1234 (talk) 02:44, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

That is not something that new users are generally invited to do. Contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. Then, in the future, if there is a need that you would like to meet, you could pursue creating a bot to fulfill it. --B (talk) 12:23, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Base58

Hello B, I created Base58, but it has been (speedy) deleted. The original G4 comment was "This applies to sufficiently identical copies", but I have not seen the previous article at all. I also did not have any contact on forehand with the previous creator(s). So how can it be identical copies? Please undelete the page and let me/us improve it further. --FlippyFlink (talk) 15:25, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

@FlippyFlink: the concern at the AFD was notability, not quality of the article. If you feel that the AFD was incorrectly decided or that the topic has subsequently become notable, you are welcome to bring it to deletion review. Personally, I agree with you - I think there should be an article on Base58 ... but there was a deletion discussion that found the topic is not sufficiently notable. --B (talk) 15:59, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your advice. I requested an undeletion. Feel free to give your opinion in the undeletion proces. --FlippyFlink (talk) 14:00, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Protecting images from the unused template?

Hi! Your bot itself is working as intended. At John Battaglia anonymous users keep removing an image but not giving a reason why, and as a result the image keeps getting tagged for removal. I am constantly removing the tag from the image page to combat anonymous attempts to remove the image. I'm wondering if there is a way to prevent the bot from tagging this image WhisperToMe (talk) 02:36, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

• I have semi-protected the article for 2 weeks. Hopefully that will be enough time that the vandals will get bored and go away. There is no way to protect the image from being tagged for deletion and, honestly, it's better that way anyway. You're going to get a notification when the image is tagged for deletion, but if we were to (somehow) prevent that from happening, you wouldn't get a notification when the article is vandalized. --B (talk) 02:47, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

B-bot should not follow cross-namespace user talk redirects

Example problematic edit: Special:Diff/974796827 * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:44, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

To be clear, it should send the notice to nobody if the user who uploaded the file's talk page redirects outside of the user talk namespace. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 01:45, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

@Pppery: Weird. I will obviously fix it so that the bot won't do that ... but as a general rule, if the talk page is redirected to the user page, then everything should be fully protected. You can see from looking at the history that for the last seven years, there have been plenty of notifications left on the user page - mostly by humans. I really think either the user page should be protected or the talk page should just be turned into a normal page and not a redirect. --B (talk) 02:51, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

The human notifications were made using Twinkle, which has already been updated. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 02:53, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

This is still happening * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 19:11, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

@Pppery: I have fully protected the page. I will fix the bot issue, but there is no point in that page being unprotected. --B (talk) 13:38, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

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File:Modern Mickey Mouse.png

B-bot made this edit to File:Modern Mickey Mouse.png. Then notified me here. Looking at User:B-bot it says to notify you if I wasn't the first contributor in the images history. A quick look at Mickey Mouse.png&oldid=550709904 this shows that Peteforsyth was the first contributor. I didn't edit the page until here. I checked the deleted edits but my name isn't there at all. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 04:46, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

• @CambridgeBayWeather: Thanks. It looks like your contribution was 100 from the top (there were 100 contributions newer than your's), which suggests it might be an API limitation or something where I need to pull in a second page of results. This probably has never come up before because images aren't very frequently edited more than 100 times. --B (talk) 12:17, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
  • And I have 500 revisions set so I wouldn't notice it. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 12:32, 30 November 2020 (UTC)

File:Born-a-champion-poster-2764x4096 (1).jpg

B-bot pinged me about an orphaned image. I uploaded the image for a draft I just submitted; is there a way to avoid the automatic seven-day deletion during the draft review process, given that there's no way to tell how long that will take? Thanks; this is my first submission, trying to make sure I do everything correctly. --0h_$nap (talk) 15:03, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

@0h $nap: Non-free images are only permitted in article space once the article is promoted - they aren't currently permitted in drafts. The best practice is to simply wait to upload the image until the article is promoted. However, in the interest of not creating work, I have kicked the can down the road and added a month to the timer so that the image will not be deleted right away, giving time for the draft to be approved. Please note that this image exceeds the size permitted for non-free images and should be reduced to 260x385 to be in compliance. --B (talk) 11:24, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

File:New_Jersey_Copa_SC.png

No action necessary, just an FYI for B-bot's use cases.

B-bot flagged this image as no longer in use, which is true; another user replaced it with an updated logo. However, its replacement File:FC_Copa_Academy_Logo_2019.png is scheduled for deletion (logo was inappropriately uploaded to Commons, and lacks copyright rationale). The end result of B-bot's deletion and the Common's deletion will likely be the deletion of all identifying images. -Oznogon (talk) 03:00, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

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File:Lothlorien logo.jpg

Hi I received notice of the fair use image being deleted, as the article it's used for has been redirected. Would it be possible to save the file, as I will be appealing the redirect? Thank you Rybkovich (talk) 03:40, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

• @Rybkovich: If the image is deleted and the page is subsequently un-redirected, then the image can be undeleted with a request at WP:REFUND. (Nothing on Wikipedia is truly deleted - it can all be restored. Completely non-controversial undeletions like this are generally done very very quickly.) --B (talk) 03:42, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Great! Thank you. Rybkovich (talk) 07:29, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

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File:Akufo Addo.jpg

B-bot posted on my talk page on 17:03, 29 May 2021 (UTC) that it intends to delete File:Akufo Addo.jpg as "the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia". I have had a quick look just now and as at this very moment, the image is still on the page of Edward Akufo-Addo. Your bot is malfunctioning. I have had other images deleted in the past as I am not that regular on Wikipedia and miss some of these messages. These bots need to be fine tuned because getting sources and images on things in Africa can be difficult and I do not expend my energy searching for these things any more as they get tagged for one reason or another and deleted. This comment is not targeted at you. I have raised this elsewhere and the response is the same that it is unfortunate Wikipedia has a "Western bias" but it can't be helped.

The image is still there so it still fulfills the Wikipedia:Non-free content policy. I will not post anymore pictures under this policy as I do not have the time to monitor all these bots. You need to check it. If you still think it needs deleting and that this will make Wikipedia better, so be it. Thanks.--Natsubee (talk) 11:24, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

@Natsubee: The image was removed from the article on May 26 - https://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Edward_Akufo-Addo&diff=1025330066&oldid=1004804926 (presumably accidentally?). The bot correctly tagged it as orphaned. I'm not sure how a bot - or even a human who doesn't know the content area - can necessarily distinguish between an accidental removal and a deliberate one as an editorial choice. At least with the process we have, if an image is removed, someone - the original uploader - is going to be notified - whereas if we don't do anything, the image just stays gone until someone notices. In this case, the image had already been restored to the article by another editor and the bot would have automatically corrected itself and removed the tag if another editor hadn't gotten to it first. (It re-checks each image tagged for deletion after 2, 4, and 6 days to make sure it's still orphaned.) --B (talk) 01:16, 2 June 2021 (UTC)

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File:Bank_of_England_£50_Series_G_obverse.jpg and File:Bank_of_England_£50_Series_G_reverse.jpg

Got a notification saying these two images were not being used in an article and will be deleted on June 23. They were used on Banknotes of the pound sterling#Current circulation except another bot auto-removed all the banknote thumbnails from the table. I just found out about that change so I haven't looked into the details of why. Regardless the images will be used on Bank of England £50 note once the new note officially enters circulation on June 23. When I uploaded them I was completing the current circulation table on the former article and laying the groundwork for the latter dedicated £50 article. - Wikkiwonkk (talk) 10:18, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

• @Wikkiwonkk: The bot is going to tag them for deletion is they are not currently used right now, today. If they are needed for an article, but just not right now, then perhaps re-upload them or ask for them to be undeleted once they are needed. Non-controversial undeletions can be requested at WP:REFUND. --B (talk) 20:14, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

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Magic Realm

You recently left a note on my page, or your bot did about the image used in this article saying the image isn't used in any article. But since the image clearly IS used in the article I linked, I think maybe you need to fix your bot or something. I haven't edited on wikipedia for years is this is one of the reasons why... https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Magic_Realm MiracleMat (talk) 03:23, 14 November 2021 (UTC)

• @MiracleMat: At the time the message was left, the image was not in use. Its removal was subsequently reverted. No further action is necessary. --B (talk) 11:39, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

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Change on Requesting copyright permission

Hi B, on January 2019 you changed the Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission page with a comment The original email from the copyright holder is preferred, but now that preferred process has become compulsory. I wonder where was that discussed and agreed. I need a reference for the process I'm going to begin. Thank you very much. --Robertgarrigos (talk) 07:13, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

@Robertgarrigos: At the time that I made that change, I was an OTRS volunteer. For at least the last decade or so, if we receive an email from someone other than the copyright holder themselves, then we turn around and email the copyright holder to confirm the veracity of it. (The issue is that it's too easy when you're just forwarding an email to edit that email to say whatever you want.) There is frequently a very, very lengthy backlog (you can look at the history of the backlog and see how long it can get) and if all you do is forward an email, then what frequently happens is months later, the copyright holder will get another email asking them to confirm what you already sent in, they are going to be annoyed with it or ignore it completely, and the image is going to get deleted. You can see that our text is similar to the instructions at Commons, which says, "ask the author to forward the email with their clear statement of permission to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org". I don't remember or know of any discussion on Wikipedia, but I can tell you that the current recommended process is that the author/copyright holder sends the email, because if they don't, it slows things down. I can also tell you that the least-complicated requests get processed the fastest. If I have a simple email, obviously from the copyright holder, that clearly spelled out a suitable permission, that was going to get processed far more quickly than something that required a lot of work. --B (talk) 12:47, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Thanks @B:. The question is that "recommended process" is not the same as compulsory. I don't mind having a slower process if it's simpler for the holder of the copyright. It looks like that you are saying that I could have used a forwarded process, although it's not recommended. However, I had an answer from OTRS people saying that this is not the process. Then, I guess it should be somewhere a discussion and a decision making to change the process in the way you stated in that page on January 2019. Otherwise, it looks like it was an arbitrary decision. Robertgarrigos (talk) 15:41, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Any email you send you're going to get a response to it and the volunteer who processes it will do their best to get the ball rolling, but what OTRS needs to successfully process the permission is something from the copyright holder themselves. This is what is stated on Commons and on Meta and it is the process actually used. The fact that someone can choose to not follow the exact instructions and still get a reply doesn't make that the correct process. You could send an email that says "Bob says I can use his picture" and you're going to get a reply - but that reply is basically going to tell you that we need Bob to send us a statement of permission matching the template - exactly what the instructions say to do. --B (talk) 18:49, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

B-bot

Hello, B,

I don't do much handling of files but I do keep an eye on maintenance categories like Category:Orphaned non-free use Wikipedia files and I've noticed the number of tagged files has gone way down in the past couple of days. Typically, there are anywhere from 25 to over 100 images tagged for deletion every day. The number usually goes down over the course of 7 days as editors untag files and find a use for them. But for the past few days B-bot has tagged 6 or fewer files every day.

So, I just thought I'd check in and see if the bot was doing okay. Maybe this is part of a regular fluctuation I've never noticed before. Any way, I hope you and the bot are well. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:23, 27 November 2021 (UTC) Tagging orphaned non-free image for deletion

Hi @Liz:, thanks for letting me know. It looks like someone stopped the bot at User:B-bot/STOP. I'm letting it run manually to catch up with what it missed. --B (talk) 00:57, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Basketball venues by competition

According WP:G4, the "pages that are not substantially identical to the deleted version, pages to which the reason for the deletion no longer applies". What categories "Category:Basketball venues by competition" contains is differ from August, why you still deleted it by G4?--寒吉 (talk) 03:46, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

• @寒吉: I have a hard time imagining any category with the same name as another category not being "substantially identical". (Unless it's something like "Songs by Bob Smith" and we're talking about a different Bob Smith.) Just putting some different pages in there doesn't make it not G4. If you want to re-create the category, it needs to go to deletion review. --B (talk) 17:34, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

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B-Bot task 1

Hello B, I recently found about your bot on the Bots Noticeboard (permalink). It appears that, for the most part, B-Bot tags orphaned non-free files within a few days of orphaning. However, there are some cases where the bot doesn't tag the file. For example, File:"Mookajjiya Kanasugalu", Film Poster.jpg hasn't been used in Mookajjiya Kanasugalu (film) for more than seven weeks, and File:"Weird Al" Yankovic - Amish Paradise.ogg hasn't been used in Bad Hair Day for more than four months. (I've just tagged both.) Is there any way to fix this? Thanks, Tol (talk | contribs) @ 00:36, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

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Orphaned non-free files

Hello!

Perhaps files tagged with {{Now Commons}} can be excluded from your orphaned non-free files query since they will get deleted anyway? Example: File:Besiktas JK.svg. Jonteemil (talk) 04:51, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

@Jonteemil: If an image is non-free, it shouldn't be on Commons. Either the non-free tag is incorrect and should be replaced with an appropriate license tag or PD tag, or the image should not have been uploaded to Commons. In this particular case, according to the Commons PD tag, since this image was anonymous, it looks like it is PD if it was published more than 70 years ago (so prior to 1952). Has anyone provided evidence of that? --B (talk) 13:59, 1 January 2022 (UTC)

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Nomination for deletion of Template:OTRS received old

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Thanks and questions regarding B-bot

Hi, thanks for this edit which tipped me off to the vandalism of the article involved, which I have now reverted. I have also removed the template from the image description page.

Question 1: Do I need to do anything more?

Question 2: Maybe consider making the message to the user talk page explicit about the need to do that second step? I feel I might easily have missed it. Or does the bot do it automatically anyway? Did I even need to do anything more than revert the vandalism to the article?

Question 3: Is there anything that could be done to make B-bot a bit more selective? This was a very obvious case of an image that was only recently orphaned, and should not have been. I suspect not; As a friend and workmate now with a PhD in artificial intelligence once told me, Unfortunately, the closer we get to true artificial intelligence, the closer we also get to artificial stupidity. Just a possibility to ponder. (And the context of that comment is, we did do some awesome things with neural networks that saved the business a lot of money.)

But mainly, thanks for this very useful bot. The results seem to have been good on this occasion! Andrewa (talk) 18:57, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

1. No, nothing to my knowledge needs to be done.

2. The bot will remove the template itself in a few days if you don't do it.

3. B-bot already waits 2 days between the image becoming orphaned and tagging and notifying it. The bigger problem is that the vandalism was undetected for two days (and we do have AI-based antivandalism bots). * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 21:21, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

New categories and templates

Your bot, can it be set up to create categories using the new names instead of OTRS? E.g. Category:Items pending permission as of March 2022 instead of Category:Items pending OTRS confirmation of permission as of March 2022. Thanks in advance! Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 21:21, 24 March 2022 (UTC)

@Josve05a: Yes, I can change the name to be whatever is desired. Is there a RM or other discussion somewhere for this change? --B (talk) 12:08, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

Well, we've got https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T280392 as well as other internal VRT legal discussions requiring the change away from using the phrase OTRS. This has been brought up long ago, but given the wast amount of pages and templates and categories, the focus was put on meta and Commons and not enwp (also, being bold). Jonatan Svensson Glad (talk) 20:49, 1 April 2022 (UTC)

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File:Saoradh logo.jpg

Hi. B-bot keeps tagging File:Saoradh logo.jpg for deletion because, it says, it is not in use on any articles. But it is in use in the Saoradh article. On the file page, the "Media data and Non-free use rationale" section shows and links the Saoradh article under "Use in article", but for some reason I can't understand, the article doesn't appear in the "File usage" section. Any idea how to fix this? Scolaire (talk) 20:04, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) The jpg isn't in use anymore. It was replaced in the article by the higher quality png version: File:Saoradh logo.png. VernoWhitney (talk) 20:37, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation. Scolaire (talk) 10:00, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Escaping the equal sign

Could you get B-bot to escape the equal sign in File:X=Prem film Official Poster.jpeg (or prefix with 1=) when using it here? Otherwise it's not going to work with the {{lf}} template, and it puts the pages in Category:Pages using duplicate arguments in template calls that my bot patrols. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 13:41, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Also, I don't really see the point of passing the same input twice to {{lf}} which only supports one input parameter, but that's not a real problem. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 13:46, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Passing the same input to {{lf}} is not intentional - it's because the format of its source page for the list of files changed. I'm fixing that now. How do you escape the equal sign in the template argument? (Although I'll probably just do 1= since that way I don't have to worry about de-escaping it when I process the list.) --B (talk) 13:58, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

Yes, the 1= is most common method for dealing with this. The other was is to replace the = with {{=}} which is more characters. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 14:15, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

This is done. It will take two days before the lists percolate out, but you can see that at User:B-bot/List of orphaned images/day-0, the template now includes 1= --B (talk) 15:34, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

File:Plymouth (automobile logo).jpg

B-Bot notified me about File:Plymouth (automobile logo).jpg being orphaned because I had the oldest edit in the history, although I was not the uploader. I don't know why, but it's been 14 years and I expect the file to go away in a week so I don't think it matters much. I updated the date on the template on the file to today and notified the actual uploader - I don't think an extra few days will hurt anything, although I also don't expect the original uploader to show back up this week. Thanks for all you do.  ★  Bigr Tex 01:47, 27 June 2022 (UTC)

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Hey, B,

It looks like B-bot has stopped tagging orphaned non-free images and posting notifications on the talk pages of those editors who uploaded those files. There is typically around 50-70+ files in the "Orphaned non-free use Wikipedia files" daily categories but as you can see here, Category:Orphaned non-free use Wikipedia files, the number has gone down to single digits. I think I've posted about this problem here before and you were able to solve it by restarting the bot or some other tech magic I don't know about. Hope you are well! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:49, 5 June 2022 (UTC)

• @Liz: Thanks. It looks like the format of Wikipedia:Database reports/Unused non-free files, which is my backup source for a list of orphaned files, changed. And my primary source - m:Research:Quarry - changed their login page. I'm going to need to sit down and figure out what to do to get my queries from Quarry working again ... but fortunately the change from Wikipedia:Database reports/Unused non-free files was pretty simple. The job is running now. --B (talk) 12:53, 7 June 2022 (UTC)

I'm so glad we have smart folks like you who can set these bots that make our jobs so much easier. Maintaining this website would be a much bigger chore without them. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:44, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

To the article Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs has been added by this user, http://en.m.wiki.x.io/wiki/Special:Contributions/107.2.47.111, an inappropriate and non-neutral "racist" in the introduction: "Coal Black and de Sebben Dwarfs is a 1943 racist Merrie Melodies animated cartoon directed by Bob Clampett." Could you do something about it and remove said word, please? Also, the phrase "animated cartoon" doesn't make sense, it would make sense "animated short" instead. Could you do something about it too, please? Thanks. 151.57.119.94 (talk) 19:43, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

File:House of the Dragon logo.jpg

hello @B i just want to let you know that User:B-bot tagged the file for speedy deletion because the bot thought that the file is not in use in any article (Tagging orphaned non-free image for deletion.) and that's strange because the file's currently in use, so i reverted as a false positive thank you. —— 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 21:18, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

after a review i found out that the bot was right, the tag dates back to 25th of aug, back then the file was unused sorry for disturbing you. —— 🌸 Sakura emad 💖 (talk) 21:30, 30 August 2022 (UTC)

That does happen and unfortunately, there's not a way we can completely avoid it. Someone vandalizes the article (or, for that matter, makes an ill-conceived edit that removes a bunch of content). The bot runs and sees the image is unused. But it can't distinguish between a bad idea vs someone making a deliberate editorial decision. What we do to try and mitigate this is we will only tag an image as an orphan if the image is missing from the article for at least 24 hours. So if there is vandalism, and it's reverted within 24 hours, we're not going to tag the image as an orphan. While obviously not all vandalism is discovered in that amount of time, most of it is, so it's not incredibly common that we'll mark things like this. --B (talk) 11:01, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

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B-bot source code update request

Hello, I came across your B-bot's Event logs while fixing various WP:Lint issues today and found that your bot is still currently using the HTML-5 obsolete <font> tags for its various log actions. Would you be willing to update the bot's source code where it uses <font color="XXX"> to be <span style="color: XXX">, and the corresponding end tags </font> to </span> ? (XXX being the colors: green, orange, marooon). You also have one log action using single quotes, <font color='red'>. If that could also be changed to <span style="color: red"> that would be great. I've updated archives 1-76 to use <span>, and I'll be happy to update archive 77 and the current event log page after the bot is no longer using <font>. Thank you! Zinnober9 (talk) 00:25, 11 October 2022 (UTC)

• @Zinnober9: This is done. I have also set it so that it's only going to log errors, which should dramatically reduce the amount of stuff in the logs. (Honestly, I don't see the point in even keeping the logs any more. I did it initially as part of the approval process, but it's been running for years and hardly seems useful to even keep the logs any more. --B (talk) 11:33, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

  Thank you! Zinnober9 (talk) 16:23, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Restore request

Hi could you restore File:Dentyne ice mints.jpg which was deleted per this discussion], thanks. IIRC it's free-use anyway so we can move it to Commons if desired. Thanks. Herostratus (talk) 07:20, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

What is the intended use for it? The reason for deletion is that Wikipedia (and Commons for that matter) is not free webhosting. We don't host images unless they have some sort of conceivable educational use. This image is what looks like an MS Paint version of a Dentyne ice mints box superimposed onto a star. --B (talk) 12:56, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Maybe, but "I don't like this picture" wasn't the basis for deletion, orphaning was. If after restoration you want to send it to Images for Deletion on that basis, or discuss it on the article talk page, that'd be OK. In the meantime, after all it's the only definitely free picture we have (that I know of) illustrating an article (or a section of a larger article -- this is up in the air atm) about the entity, which after all is (or anyway was) a major product of a famous brand. Herostratus (talk) 04:52, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

@Herostratus: What is the article you intend to use it for? It was deleted because it was orphaned and has no conceivable future use. If you are telling me that no longer applies (because you have an article you would like to use it in), I would be happy to restore it. But I can't imagine it being appropriate for use in Dentyne Mints in the slightest if that is what you are thinking. --B (talk) 19:58, 22 November 2022 (UTC)

I am, or else in the section of Dentyne that it's merged to, probably, if that's what ends up happening. But good news, after some digging around in my archives I actually found the original (I had thought I had long lost it, should have checked before bothering you, sorry), so no need for the restore, again, sorry for taking you time, carry on. Herostratus (talk) 03:04, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

I can't imagine any world in which this is appropriate for use in Dentyne. We don't include MS Paint drawings of products in encyclopedia articles. --B (talk) 20:23, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

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Expired OTRS pending checker failing

Per User:B-bot/Event log. I'm assuming this task was never updated for the template rename that happened a while ago (it's now called {{permission pending}}) * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 14:46, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

This is still an issue. * Pppery * _{it has begun...} 14:37, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

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Re: Orphaned non-free image File:ATAC Roma logo.png

Relevant diff: Special:Diff/1180916414 (posted by @B-bot)

Done. I had File:ATAC Roma logo.png deleted myself under G7. Piotrusp98 (talk) 01:52, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

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User:B-bot/List of orphaned images

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File:Barbara Koerppen.jpg

Please would you kindly delete the first upload on the above filepage? It is too large for a non-free image, and was uploaded in error. (Note: the second upload is valid - please preserve that one). Thank you. Storye book (talk) 11:09, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

• This is done. --B (talk) 16:46, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

• Thank you. Much appreciated. Storye book (talk) 18:44, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

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