Template:Did you know nominations/Mus`ab ibn `Umair

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The result was: promoted by BlueMoonset (talk) 21:58, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Mus`ab ibn `Umair

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... that Mus`ab ibn `Umair a sahabi (companion) of Mohammad was the first ambassador of Islam?

Reviewed: Irving Gottesman

Created/expanded by Mehrajmir13 (talk). Self nom at 13:12, 10 August 2012 (UTC)

It was started in 2005 so would only qualify for DYK as an expansion. It is currently at 4655 characters. It's had copyvio text. The problem is that it got aggressively stubbed for being unreferenced in February. It wasn't the removal of copyvio text and hence counts for DYK purposes. this revision has 13095 characters, more than currently. I cannot count this as a 5x expansion - sorry. Secretlondon (talk) 00:27, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

A biographical article. This revision was unreferenced, therefore it was aggressively stubbed. I expanded the article with 5x with online reference making it eligible for DYK. Duplicate detector shows no copyvio. For {Closeparaphrasing} I inserted template and invited writers for comment and check on its talk page, nothing happened there. It needs to reconsider as per DYK rules. MehrajMir '^(Talk) 06:51, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Statistical recap - Nomination is under August 8, 2012

August 7, 2005, article created by Striver as a one-sentence stub
February 7, 2012, article had 13,095 characters of readable prose, tagged as being unencyclopedic
February 24, 2012, article had been reduced to four sentences, 325 characters by Dougweller, still tagged
June 2, 2012, still tagged as unencyclopedic, article had 325 characters
August 7, 2012, Mehrajmir13 expanded article to 5,186 characters
August 7, 2012, Dougweller deleted most of the article for sourcing issues, 325 characters
August 8, 2012, Mehrajmir13 restored the article to 5,186 characters and began discussion on Talk Page
August 8, 2012, article tagged for close paraphrasing
August 8-10, 2012, Mehrajmir13 made numerous edits, removed paraphrasing tag, 4,769 characters
August 11-26, 2012, edits by multiple editors, article at 4657 characters, not tagged

At-a-glance of the history. Hope this helps clarify, one way or another. Maile66 (talk) 11:32, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Here are DYK rules on 5X expansion: DYK Onepage Fivefold expansion

Maile66 (talk) 13:25, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

It appears to me that the original article, before being cut down to a stub, may have been a copyvio (see this forum post dated 19 November 2005 which predates the major expansion of 18 November 2006). This therefore means that this article is an acceptable five-fold expansion. violet/riga _^[talk] 15:22, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

I ran the Duplication Detector and found no copyvio. The hook is short enough, and sourced online at the end of the sentence. Sourcing is in English. However, this needs a bit of attention:

Copy editing is needed, to make this grammatically correct in the English language. Some examples:

"It was happened that Musab went..."

" By the Quranic verses and the words of Prophet Musab felt deeply and embrased the Islam by submission of his will to God."

"...his mother who chained him in his own house with the intention of bringing Musab back".(did you mean bringing him back to his senses?)

" His assignment was prepare Yathrib for..."

"...he was chosen above all companions for this task who were older and more experienced with greater prestige than him..."

Almost the entire section of Death in the Battle of Uhud needs a rewrite to make sense.

This should be more than one sentence, and correct the English: "On realising the great danger he raised the standard in one hand and shouted the takbir (Allah is the greatest), with driving the attention of opposite forces towards him and the intention of Muhammad escaping their attack; also he resembled the Prophet in build and complexion,[13] he fighted with the enemy forces with extraordinary courage"

Source #9 is a dead link
Sources 3 and 6 - the online links just show a cover of the book

Maile66 (talk) 21:29, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Source #9 and #3 restored, #6 is already online. Copy edit done by Yngvadottir MehrajMir '^(Talk) 03:50, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

Good to go. Nice job of copy editing.

Maile66 (talk) 11:41, 28 August 2012 (UTC)