Talk:San Marino national football team

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Former good articleSan Marino national football team was one of the Sports and recreation good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
November 1, 2007Peer reviewReviewed
October 23, 2010Good article nomineeListed
April 10, 2023Good article reassessmentDelisted
Current status: Delisted good article

older entries

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San Marino's victory over Lichtenstein is disputed by the official World Cup website, which says they have never won a match, and their most recent "success" was a draw against Lichteinsein.

San Marino - Liechnstein finished with the score of 1-0, but it was a friendly match.

Fastest Goal?

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Should it be changed to "World Cup Qualification History" instead of "World Cup" history? I don't know if qualifiers are considered "World Cup," if someone with more knowledge could chime in, that'd be great.

Personally, I'd say the wording is correct. The part of the World Cup that we see on telly every four years is called the World Cup Finals, and there's never been a quicker goal in that. It's all part of the process of trying to win the World Cup. The FA Cup has five or six rounds before it starts to be televised Jodamu 17:53, 2 February 2007 (UTC)Reply

"The goal knocked England out of the 1994 World Cup"??

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How?

England missed out by two points, not on goal difference. Even if they hadn't conceded the goal, they would still have had one less goal than the Netherlands, still missing out even if they had the same points.

Fixed this part, it was indeed incorrect Nach0king 17:11, 3 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

Trivia

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included in the video games such as 2006 FIFA World Cup from Electronic Arts hal-28Feb2007 unregistered

Fair use rationale for Image:San Marino National Football Team logo.jpg

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Computer games

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Whatever happens in a computer game is not effected by the team, not are the team affected by it. It involves some virtual data remotely influenced by the perception that some programmers have of a team, but is entirely irrelevant to a national football team. The players, management and national association of the San Marino team would have been entirely ignorant of two kids playing some computer game until long after it happened, if they ever found out. Even if it were relevant in any way to this article, and I contend that it is not, it would need sourcing and verification: a nation with a history of 1700 years does not need a couple of teenagers to achieve a place in culture, and to be "widely known around the internet" is far to nebulous a concept to be encyclopaedic. Kevin McE 16:52, 25 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Haha. I can tell you that half of the world has not even heard of San Marino and what it even is. You go around editing every country's soccer wikipedia like you run the place when you don't. What has the San Marino football team accomplished in it's history? Nothing. The information at hand is not irrelevant and because you don't care or know about does not mean anyone else doesn't as well. Teenagers? Computer game? It was a widely popular computer game. You have worse things on here like the term "ORLY" and other internet phenomenons. Give me a break. --Knea2006 19:20, 25 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

1) If "half the world has not even heard of" one of the oldest sovereign states in the world, that is a sad state of affairs. However, I suspect that that level of ignorance is not as widespread as you think.
2) I regularly update FIFA rankings on any national football page that needs it, and make other edits from time to time (I have about 8 of the 202 members of FIFA as watchlist pages) as the need to make them conform to accuracy and wiki policy demands. You call this acting "like you run the place": I call it being a responsible contributor.
3) The accomplishments of the San Marino team are indeed very limited: an unverifiable claim that somebody achieved something in the name of that team in a game on their computer adds nothing to the achievements of that team.
4) You are asserting that the information that you wish to add is not irrelevant, but you have presented no reason why any intelligent person should share that opinion. You have not verified the information that you wish to post.
5) I have at no time suggested that the game in question is not popular, nor that it should not have an article on Wikipedia. If the information that you wish to add can be verified, then maybe it would merit inclusion on that page. I have simply asserted, and argued, that it gives no information about the San Marino national football team, and so has no place in the current article.
6) I have never read the article ORLY and have no interest in doing so. If you think it falls short of the standards of Wikipedia, then I assume you will be motivated either to try to improve it, or to follow the appropriate steps to propose that the article be deleted. That issue has no relevance to the content of this page, and I am aware that the relevant policy has been pointed out to you in the past. Kevin McE 19:15, 26 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

"on occasion travelling supporters outnumber the Sammarinese support"

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This might be bordering on original research (my frustration at the lack of an explicit source I guess), but taking the recent game against Ireland as an example as it got plenty of English language coverage, the Irish Times quoted the Irish support as 2,500 ([1]) and the total attendance was 3,294 [2]. Oldelpaso 13:08, 10 October 2007 (UTC)Reply

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:San Marino national football team/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Grondemar 03:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

  Working Will aim to complete this review in the next couple of days. Grondemar 03:07, 1 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

The first thing I noticed was that there are several unreferenced statements. I added {{cn}} tags where citations need to be added. Will continue to review. Grondemar 12:44, 1 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

Additionally, Ref 5 is a deadlink, and needs to be replaced. Grondemar 16:52, 3 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

I made some copyedits throughout the article; beyond that, and the citation issues mentioned above, I see no problems with it. Once the requested citations are provided I'll be happy to pass this article as a Good Article.

GA review (see here for criteria)
  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose):   b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):  
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (references):   b (citations to reliable sources):   c (OR):  
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects):   b (focused):  
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:  
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:  
  6. It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):   b (appropriate use with suitable captions):  
  7. Overall:
    Pass/Fail:  
    This article will be   on hold for a minimum of seven days to allow for the above issues to be corrected.

Thank you. Grondemar 16:52, 3 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

I believe all the cite issues are now addressed. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 15:48, 17 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

I agree all of the citation issues have been addressed, and will   pass this article now. Congratulations! Grondemar 16:36, 23 October 2010 (UTC)Reply

Squad (14.08.2012)

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Matteo Vitaioli now free agent. Squad San Marino Calcio (2012-13 season) - http://sanmarinocalcio.com/default.asp?id=1098

Alessandro Della Valle played season 2011-12 for S. Ermete Sanvitese. Why he free agent ???

Cristian Brolli - is player Cattolica Calcio ! Squad season 2012-13 - http://www.romagnasport.com/index.php?omnews_mode=show&omnews_id=70932&q2=Cristian+Brolli

Manuel Marani played for Tre Penne in Champions League 2012-13. Where is information what he was back in Murata ? But maybe it’s true. I read that he play in Tre Penne only for the Champions League ...

Valdas143 (talk) 10:58, 15 August 2012 (UTC)Valdas143Reply

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List of matches not lost by San Marino

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Hi fellow wikipedians

is the section "List of matches not lost by San Marino" something really needed? needless to say that such a section is not included in template for national football teams, but it is also the only page in which this section appears. Wherever wrongly shown, it can also be considered offensive. Data are all included in other sections and/or pages (e.g. San_Marino_national_football_team#Records and San Marino national football team results).

I suggest to remove it (also in the focus of lighten the page), do you agree?
Riktetta (talk) 09:45, 14 October 2020 (UTC)Reply

  • I disagree. The team's record by itself is WP:NOTABLE so making a specific section to highlight games the team has not lost makes sense. It's current form (I did not put it back) can be worked on so it's less clunky. Maybe have each match be collapsible like the "upcoming fixtures" section. But the information itself should stay and be highlighted in some form. ColeTrain4EVER (talk) 19:28, 28 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Vadalism

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Please fix it Cw131007 (talk) 14:56, 26 October 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Mediterranean Games

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What's up with the record of San Marino's participation in the Mediterranean Games? At San_Marino_national_football_team#Mediterranean_Games, the article links to San Marino national under-20 team (a red-link). Looking further down, it says that San Marino has a U-21, U-19 and U-17 team, but no U-20.

At Football at the Mediterranean Games, one finds that San Marino participated in the event twice since 1991: In 1997 (when all countries were represented by the Olympic teams), and in 2001 (when all countries were represented by the U-21 teams). Indeed, the 1997 team must have been the U-21, as confirmed on the article of the one player who scored a goal during that event, Andy Selva. Strangely though, in the participating teams section, the article about the 1997 games links to a non-existent San Marino national under-23 football team; and the article about the San Marino national under-21 football team makes no mention at all of either the 1997 or the 2001 Mediterranean Games. What's up with that mess? Renerpho (talk) 04:05, 19 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

GA Reassessment

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Result: Citations missing, especially for statistics, which fails 2b of the GA criteria. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 22:06, 10 April 2023 (UTC)Reply

A GA from 2010. Has been tagged for "This article or section appears to be slanted towards recent events. (May 2022) This article needs additional citations for verification. (May 2022)" for almost a year. GA cleanup reports "Unsourced passages need footnotes (May 2022), ... (May 2022), Unsourced passages need footnotes [citation needed] (May 2022), Link rot cleanup (June 2022)" Onegreatjoke (talk) 00:09, 19 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

I agree that the page generally needs more citations overall. If needed, I can help retrieve adequate sources in Italian. Oltrepier (talk) 13:40, 19 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
so, there are three CN tags that need addressing and a few uncited paragraphs in the section above. The latest fixtures and competitive records need citing. I also believe the "all time record" section is CRUFT and needs removing. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 19:25, 19 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Lee Vilenski I agree about the competitive records and the paragraphs. The fixtures should already have citations, though, and the "List of matches not lost" could still be relevant, given San Marino's competitive history... Oltrepier (talk) 10:06, 20 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
I think we are quite a way away from actually picking this up. I have posted a link on WT:FOOTY. If no one picks this up, then we'd be pretty placed to close and delist. Lee Vilenski (talkcontribs) 14:01, 30 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
Should List of matches not lost by San Marino not be moved to San Marino national football team results rather than being on the main page? It could be linked from the Reputation section as well. Felixsv7 (talk) 14:10, 30 March 2023 (UTC)Reply
@Felixsv7 You're probably right: I didn't notice it at first, but that section makes the article a bit bloated... Oltrepier (talk) 08:41, 1 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
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How to edit the preview on Google

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Hello, when i look for the page "San Marino national football team" on Google, the preview indicates that coach is still Fabrizio Costantini. How can it be edited? Oswald Breil (talk) 19:12, 28 December 2023 (UTC)Reply