Talk:Salal Dam

No original research please!

An IP has reinstated old WP:OR that I deleted. Part of it says:

The dead storage level can be changed/ lowered up to EL 1365 ft level (without violating the agreement for the Salal Project which says dead storage level shall not be higher than EL 1600 ft) so that the volume of water above the new dead storage level in the reservoir up to maximum reservoir level EL 1621 ft is treated as surcharge storage as per Annexure D (8b) of IWT read with the terms of agreement for the Salal project. The existing diversion tunnel for the dam construction can be restored to serve the sediment transfer purpose or a new tunnel can be connected to the reservoir at EL 1365 ft level by lake tapping method (if needed) which was implemented in Koyna Hydroelectric Project. Additional power generation capacity can also be added to use the available total water flows in the river at low cost.

References

I am unable to find anything remotely resembling the content in the source provided. Please provide a quote from the source that verifies the content. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:50, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

The ref. is talking about how a tunnel was constructed without emptying the water in the reservoir of Koyna Project. It is stated by an earlier editor that same job can be done in Salal project also creating outlets above newly fixed dead storage level far below the presently declared dead storage level at EL 1600 ft which can be modified/lowered according to Annexure D(12) provision of IWT. As quoted by the above Wiki editor from paragraph 8 of Annexure D of IWT, similarly it was stated that dead storage level can be changed to lower level to EL 1365 ft using the Paragraph 8b provisions of Annexure D as the Salal agreement is permitting dead storage fixation by India up to EL 1600 ft. If the wiki editor is unable to understand, it does not mean many readers of this article (particularly curious readers) were unable to understand as the 'deleted content" had been extant for more than a year and nobody complained about it. Now, the wiki editor is terming the deleted content by him as WP:OR without recording it as WP:OR at the time of deletion / edit. He is also partly providing here the deleted content earlier by him to mislead the readers. Why the ref. provided is not relevant to the topic? In this way, most of the content added by the above editor is also WP:OR since many references provided by him are not readily available in the public domain to verify and are book references giving publishers advertisement links. 106.212.246.99 (talk) 16:39, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

I have no idea who made the edit, who restored it and who you are. They are all unregistered IP edits. Please register an account if you need to do long-term editing here.

WP:Verifiability says: Any material lacking a reliable source directly supporting it may be removed and should not be restored without an inline citation to a reliable source. This is a fundamental policy of Wikipedia. You are not allowed to add your own views, saying it is like something proposed somewhere. If there are proposals for restoring the Salal project, they must come from reliable sources, not Wikipedia editors. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 16:08, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

Availability/capacity

Another IP has complained: Availability is not a representative of power generation whereas capacity factor is.

The point is well-taken. But what is the capacity of the Salal project? The page 44 of the cited source doesn't say what the capacity is. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:31, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

The problem with this so called official senior editor is that he is not knowing any thing about reservoir or hydro electric plant but considers himself as omniscient. He is also foolish enough by not understanding the difference between availability and capacity factor even after spoon feeding the data. Page 44 of the reference sited says 690 MW Salal I & II plants generated 3491 Million kWh in a year which works out to 57% capacity factor. In the edit note, the needed explanation was also provided. In another edit, he deleted the added content how much is the remaining % (5.3%) of the water storage compared to original capacity. What is not correct about these addition which are not liked by the so called official editor (most probably hired by Wiki) who is also acting biased to a nation by suppressing and distorting the facts. 106.212.246.99 (talk) 15:21, 17 September 2019 (UTC)

You have not answered the question, what is the capacity of the Salal project?. Please answer it supported by a reliable source. And also, please refrain from personal attacks and snide remarks. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 16:18, 18 September 2019 (UTC)