Talk:Maurice Barrès

Socialism & nationalism

Hi Intangible! I hear your case, and do not dispute the fact that he was first elected under a platform of "Nationalism, Protectionism and Socialism." One must take into account, however, his shift to the right during the Dreyfus Affair, his apology of patriotism, Revanchism & of Traditionalism in his second trilogy (the famous "la terre et les morts", which is more or less to Barrès what "le moi est haïssable" is to Pascal), his role during WWI and the fact that he sieged as a conservative deputy from 1906 till his death. All of this make it very difficult to unilaterally qualify him, in the introduction, as a "Nationalist and Socialist" politician, since it appears that he seats a longer time as a conservative deputy (in the right-wing of the Assembly) than to its far-left. You're not going to introduce Georges Clemenceau by saying: "Clemenceau was a far-left politician, nationalist, socialist - and anti-imperialist" because he used to sit at the far-left in the Assembly in his youth and was also a Revanchist, are you? Obviously Barrès has evolved a lot during his life, and not less obviously he is considered more as a traditionalist author than as a socialist... Tazmaniacs 12:02, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree that his nationalism is probably more important than his socialism, but one should not neglect the latter. There are plenty of English sources avail on Barrès, I don't think references from a French high school are apt. Intangible2.0 21:21, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

No one is neglecting Barrès' early activism, but you can't say he's Socialist when he was sieging in the Entente républicaine démocratique. There are no high school references ! Tazmaniacs 13:17, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

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What to say about an article on Maurice Barrès that does not even state he was from Lorraine ??? How are poor anglophones going to understand anything about him if nothing is said about his relationship to this occupied province? There is much clucking about Revanchisme but nothing about Barrès' earlybird identity politics, surely of interest today, or his le culte du moi. Or how this notorious nationalist was also a great traveller. Even his position during the Affaire is not analysed at all.

If I knew nothing about Maurice Barrès, from this article I would assume he was a fool. A LePen. He was anything but a fool and certainly one of the greatest French stylists. That is AT LEAST as worthy of being in the heading as his being an antisemite. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.206.122.30 (talk) 23:43, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

19. August 1862!

Maurice Barrès (eigentlich Auguste-Maurice Barrès; * 19. August 1862 in Charmes-sur-Moselle; † in the german and french wiki.--Ot (talk) 10:41, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

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influences

Hello! Can I add 'influences' like other wiki pages of thinkers/philosophers have? Tjerkvermaning (talk) 21:28, 14 July 2023 (UTC)