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Official Website
editI've taken down the link to the SPRINGS website and diary in external links, and replaced it with Aya Hirano's official site. SPRINGS has disbaned and their website no longer exist. Feel free to add it back in if another offical SPRINGS site exist.
A lot of anime fans don't know the Hirano Aya's role in Springs, so I suggest that the administrators could write something about the conexion between j-pop and seiyuu, because the experience that Hirano Aya gained in Springs made the difference in Suzumiya Haruhi.
3 sizes
editI'm a little scared at her body measurements being listed... ^^; Shiroi Hane 08:26, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
- its ok, if u watch enough anime, u kno how schools do physical examination, yea its like that. i noticed that if you go to a [www.animenewsnetwork.com] go to some anime and find a seiyuu, or director or whatever, some person click for more info, it tells all. their hobbies, blood type, height, and other measurements. --Noob
Japanese celebrity measurements, blood type, and astrological signs for the more Western inclined readers are all legitimate data to be included in a Wiki. The fact that people sometimes don't know or can't accept that certain data is used differently culturally, entertainingly, or informatively is not a reason to preclude such data. In the case of the data in discussion, blood type is often culturally used to define personality types much like westerners more heavily use dates of birth. Whether you take it seriously or not is your business, and shouldn't enter into Wiki. With regard to other measurements, they are what they are. People like to know the sizes and shapes of their celebrities. Publicized measurements are generally more common in the East. The listing of such data is neither new nor tasteless. One good example of why any such data is of any reader relevance would be Tom Cruise. Either by design or circumstance, it is infrequently mentioned how short in height he actually is. There are a lot of folks who would never have known that unless they were very careful practitioners of observation, or had read about it. In the end, Wikis should be about more data, not less.
No one should feel like they can't add details such as measurements. However, my only hope is that a publishing source and time frame can be established, and accompany the data for accuracy and historical reference. Any kind of volatile data subject to change should really be placed in perspective if the information is available. --S. W.
- Agreed. User:Andycjp is still making edits without discussion on this topic, even after posting in my talk page. Apparently she thinks my listing of information is an attempt to sell Aya Hirano (read her Edit summary comments in the revision history of my talk page) because I have "shares" in the "company" (???) she deleted? Remember, this is a person who warns me of personal attacks but does it herself constantly. Luckily, she makes frequent edits to her own editing so much that revision histories often reveal more of her true nature.--Willsun (talk) 18:32, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
- It's not appropriate for this page unless she becomes a prominent model to warrant an infobox model section. -AngusWOOF (talk) 20:06, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
Finalist
editI thought Finalist was a game, rather than a TV anime? Shiroi Hane 20:03, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
- Princess Soft annouced that they will make it into an anime in late 2005. However, as of right now (july, 2006) it's still only a game and not an anime, although Aya Hirano does voice for the character. Eternal Sleeper
Ashita/Asu no Prism
editSince this has been reverted back and forth a couple of times I thought I'd mention that, despite some online stores like Yes Asia listing the single as "Asu no Prism" the actual sung lyric is "Ashita no Prism". Shiroi Hane 21:25, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
Image
editThe image currenty on the page has been disputed as apparently this subject requires a free use image. I've been told to either find a free licensed image, and I have no idea where to find one of those; request the copyright holder release the image, which I cannot do as my Japanese isn't good enough; or take a picture myself, which I can't as I'm in the wrong country. If anyone happens to have a copyright free image then please replace the current one and update the tags. Shiroi Hane 12:26, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
- That's quite a shame. That's an extremely cute picture of her. -Whatocean 09:00, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
- Check the date; that was a notice from February with a previous picture. I have recently updated it with a new picture I found on her website.--十八 09:07, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
- Current pic is out of date anyway, she changed her hair a while back, although I have to say that she was cuter with the hair shown in this pic. 150.101.121.216 08:46, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- Aaaand.. we're without an image again. Surely there's something out there that's free use? Shiroi Hane (talk) 13:21, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Either find one or make one. Flickr gives no hints. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 15:14, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Bit of a long way to travel and she might object to being stalked with a camera.. Shiroi Hane (talk) 14:14, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- Pretty much, we will have to talk to the Japanese in order to get a photograph, but I believe we don't have to resort to stalkerish activities. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 19:40, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- There is an image now but I do not think it will stay at Commons for long. No evidence that the image is free can be found at the source URL. -- allen四names 05:03, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
- Pretty much, we will have to talk to the Japanese in order to get a photograph, but I believe we don't have to resort to stalkerish activities. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 19:40, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- Bit of a long way to travel and she might object to being stalked with a camera.. Shiroi Hane (talk) 14:14, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
- Either find one or make one. Flickr gives no hints. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 15:14, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Aaaand.. we're without an image again. Surely there's something out there that's free use? Shiroi Hane (talk) 13:21, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
- Current pic is out of date anyway, she changed her hair a while back, although I have to say that she was cuter with the hair shown in this pic. 150.101.121.216 08:46, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- Check the date; that was a notice from February with a previous picture. I have recently updated it with a new picture I found on her website.--十八 09:07, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Other works
editI'll think about writing in her past history with spring and other seiyuus, what I'm wondering is if there's anything else people are interested in adding? A list of commercials she was in for example? Eternal Sleeper 14:47, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Personal
editThere are a few points/facts from the Japanese Aya entry on the Personal section that I feel a bit shaky about, and several more that I did not attempt to translate. Some facts, however, I did not want to put in during my edits because I feel like they fall into useless trivia. But I could be wrong since I might misinterpret its context. Either way, help from fluent Japanese speakers would definitely be appreciated. --Willsun 01:47, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- Nonsense! precognition is a renowned skill. Quit your jibber jabber Zerocannon (talk) 08:29, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
- I was the one who added that part in. My concern were the other parts I did not translate from the Japanese Aya entry that seemed to be very trivial information without references. Just because it's the Japanese page, doesn't mean that it isn't still part of a Wiki community and vulnerable to tactless edits. --Willsun (talk) 21:41, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Lucky ☆ Star
editI didn't think it was necessary to bring this issue up, but people are constantly changing Aya's roles in Lucky Star as seen by one of the latest updates by a brilliant non-registered user. I even left the ! tag in her entry discouraging further changes to her roles.
Konata Izumi: Easy enough. That was certainly her main role and was present in every episode.
Herself: The only time Aya appeared in her anime form was in episode 15 when the main characters attended the Suzumiya Haruhi no Gekisou concert. I guess there can be an argument in that she might not voice anything as herself, but she is singing the insert song "God knows..."
Haruhi Suzumiya: People often want to credit this role to episode 16 where the main characters visit Konata at the cosplay café and Konata utilizes her Haruhi voice. Despite Aya being the one who voices both the original characters, the voice was meant to be Konata's imitation (albeit perfect because it is Aya). The credit to Haruhi Suzumiya in Lucky Star should not be listed at all if it weren't for the commercial the Hiiragi twins watch in episode 20 that features the brown-haired, yellow ribbon-wearing Haruhi actually appearing on-screen (and having lines to speak).
--Willsun (talk) 23:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
- It was credited in the ending credits of Lucky Star ep 16. She also sings Sunny Sunshiny Happy so it should be noted that her voice did appear in episode 16.
- What is "it" in terms of role? I'm sure Aya's name appeared at the credits for every episode since she voices Konata. And the list of roles is for appearance of characters, and the animated representation of Aya herself only appears in episode 15. Yūko Gotō for instance, is only to be credited for her appearance as "herself" in episode 23 only and not including episode 16 for the use of the song Hare Hare Yukai in which she also sings in. There seems to be difficulty for people to understand that the few seiyūs that have credits for themselves in Lucky Star is only because the series played heavily on Haruhi references and actually drew the main characters of the Haruhi cast's real life caricature for cameo appearances throughout the series. Another example is Minami Kuribayashi in which an insert song she sings for is played in episode 23. The animators of Lucky Star never drew Minami Kuribayashi as a character in Lucky Star. Her name is most likely listed in the credits for the song, but not as a character. My point is that the listing under Anime is for the roles/characters they play for the series, and voice appearance in a song does not count as a "role" nor a "character."
- Also, please sign for your comments and space accordingly. I do not want the impression that your comment was made by me since you provided no signature and decided to enter it right underneath my older comment without spacing.--Willsun (talk) 12:20, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
Not sure where to put these
editNeeds romaji translation for Hello Kitty りんごの森とパラレルタウン -- ringo no mori to parareru taun (the forest of apples and the parallel town).
Needs romaji translation of ラジかるッ(コメント) -- rajikaru (komento) (radical [comment])
Needs romaji translation of アニぱら音楽館(ゲスト)-- anipara ongakukan (maybe ongakkan)(gesuto) anipara music-place (guest)
Needs romaji translation of アニメギガ(NHK BS2)第2回ゲスト anime giga dai ni kai gesuto (anime giga 2nd time guest)
Needs romaji translation of 大進撃放送BONZO! -- daishingeki housou BONZO! Super Advancement Broadcoast BONZO
Needs romaji translation of 大胆MAPスペシャル 人気アニメキャラの声やっている人の素顔全てみせます!!ベスト50 -- daitan map supesharu ninki anime kyara no koe yatte iru hito no sugao subete misemasu!! besuto 50 (Brave Map Special We will show you the faces behind the people who do popular Anime characters' voices!! best 50 --Konamaiki (talk) 09:07, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
- Thank you Konamaiki. Translations have been implemented into the article. Very much appreciated, and any further translations are welcome.--Willsun (talk) 12:54, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
"Personal" Section
editPicture
editI've found her picture during her visit at Malaysia.
Could you upload it. It's a nice picture :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kunang Api (talk • contribs) 04:46, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not sure if we can add it. You weren't even the one who took the picture.--十八 05:07, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
How can I upload a picture of Aya Hirano. It's a problem. Can I use Flickr. How can I understand that it's free? Can I use all photos from this web-site for Wiki?
Add a picture. If it's not good - sorry!!! But it's not fair we can't use pictures for sharing knowledge isn't it? It's a bad thing - copyright. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Irishkawikira4 (talk • contribs) 13:34, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
Discography of Aya Hirano
editI think she contributed to the ED albums of the anime Zettai Karen Children along with the other seiyus under the pseudonym, THE CHILDREN. You may want to add those in.
Kengbeng (talk) 08:50, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
- Those are more a collaboration effort rather than her solo singing career. It can be discussed though whether those groupings should be added as a separate section; she's in a ton of them. AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 20:44, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
Using Japanese words when the English equivalent exists
editWhat's the difference between a seiyuu and a voice actor/actress? 70.176.210.244 (talk) 03:27, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
- On the surface, nothing except a difference in language used. On the other hand, Seiyuu has through colloquial use has developed a life of its own, just like Anime vs Animation, and should be included in its own in the lexicon when referring to Japanese voice talent. Jun Kayama 23:58, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
Replacement reference?
editThe following reference can be used to at least partly replace the reference to Newtype USA. 6 (12) p. 50. December 2007.
- Doi, Hitoshi. "Hirano Aya". Seiyuu Database. July 12, 2010. Archived by WebCite July 12, 2010.
Just in case it is needed. – allen四names 19:58, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Bogus reference
editThis reference, which is cited as Anime News Network, doesn't actually come from Anime News Network. Moreover, the real source doesn't contain the story referenced, nor do any news sources I've been able to find. Bongomatic 06:20, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
May I add, when you click on the title banner, you get redircted to a blog [1](URL Included for those who are intrested) which is completely unrelated to ANN.--219.78.111.51 (talk) 17:21, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Illness
editNot that it requires much explaining, but she has a benign tumor inside her head she's been carrying since her early teens, and that's the major impact on her career as of 2011. No psychological crack-up, attempted suicide, or any descent into madness; just a combination of the usual Japanese workaholic mindset and a tumor she can't get operated on unless she's prepared to end her career bringing her down after 10 good years. Reference in Japanese added. Jun Kayama 00:03, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Discography revisited
editI've put in the discography from her website and also from Oricon, however, there are a bunch of singles and albums where she was working in collaboration with other singers, especially for Haruhi Suzumiya, Lucky Star, and Zettai Karen Children (The Children). These particular ones are not listed in her discography. Should those be considered for Hirano's page, or relegated to just those articles dealing with the soundtrack? AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 20:38, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
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I will review this article, but it will take a few days. Flowerpiep (talk) 14:41, 1 July 2018 (UTC)Flowerpiep
Comments:
- "she played her first voice acting role in 2001 with the anime television series Angel Tales" -> I think "she played her first voice acting role in 2001 for the anime television series Angel Tales" would be better.
- "and for her singing career, she was signed under Lantis" -> I think "while for her singing career, she was signed under Lantis" would be better.
- "and earned two nominations for "Best Single" (One of which is a solo, "Bōken Desho Desho?"; the other was a group nomination for the single "Hare Hare Yukai")" -> I think this should be changed to "and earned two nominations for "Best Single" (one of which was for a solo, "Bōken Desho Desho?"; the other was a group nomination for the single "Hare Hare Yukai")" since "one of which" refers to the nomination, not to the nominated song, and I feel past tense is definitely most suited here.
- "Hirano posted a message on her Twitter account that she has had" -> Present perfect ("has had") does not go well with past tense ("posted") when used like this.
- I think the tense here is correct. She was referring to a continuing state of having a pituary gland tumor: she had, and still has that tumor, so saying "she had a..." would imply the tumor no longer exists, which is not accurate. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:42, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- "she has resumed" -> "she had resumed" (same reasoning as the one from above).
- "that she left" -> I believe "that she had left" would be better.
- "since some time the previous year" does not sound really well -> I believe it should be rephrased.
- "that was more ideal with her career wishes" -> I feel "that was more ideal for her career wishes" would be better.
- "opening theme to the visual novel Finalist", "opening theme to The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya", "opening theme to the second season of The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya" -> I feel "opening theme of" would be better in all of these instances.
- I've seen "Opening theme to" used on many other articles without issue, but I'll work on this, I guess. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:42, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- "She then released the song "Namida" (涙 NAMIDA ナミダ) was released on October 20, 2008" -> "She then released the song "Namida" (涙 NAMIDA ナミダ) on October 20, 2008" (two verbs were used simultaneously).
- "This was followed the song "Zutto Kitto" (ずっと きっと)" -> "This was followed by the song "Zutto Kitto" (ずっと きっと) which was released on August 27, 2012" ("by" is necessary here).
- Could the "Early life and childhood" section be extended a bit?
- Unfortunately, I couldn't really find much more information about her early life that's not already in the article; even the Japanese Wikipedia is not of help here. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:42, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- For "Motteke! Sailor Fuku" -> I feel a really short description regarding what this is should be added before the name itself, such as: the theme song "Motteke! Sailor Fuku".
- I suggest you add wikilinks to the words "anime" and "manga" when they are first mentioned in the body of the article.
- I also suggest "voice actress" is wikilinked to "Voice acting in Japan" the first time it appears in the body of the article.
- It already is. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:42, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- "Mamori Anezaki" should also be linked the first time it appears in the body of the article.
- "to the original video animation Itsudatte My Santa!" -> "to the original video animation (OVA) Itsudatte My Santa!" since the word OVA is later mentioned, but what the abbreviation stands for is not explained.
- "starting in Second Semester" -> I believe what "Second Semester" is should be explained.
- "2008 Society for the Promotion of Japanese Animation Award, Best Voice Actress (Japanese)" + "Also specials and others, 2009 TV series, and 2015 Disappearance" -> I feel more explanations for these would also be necessary, especially for "2008 Society for the Promotion of Japanese Animation Award" and "2015 Disappearance".
- Removed since they're already mentioned elsewhere in the article, or in the Haruhi Suzumiya article. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:42, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- "Drama CD, broadcast on Kansai" -> I also believe that what a "drama CD" and "Kansai" are should be explained.
- The "broadcast on Kansai" part was not very clear, so I just removed it and left "drama CD" alone. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:42, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- "Also character album" -> Is the word "also" necessary?
- "also OVAs, specials in 2013" -> I feel the word "also" could be omitted here as well, and I believe that what "specials" are should be explained or a wikilink should be added in order to clarify the word.
- Removed the phrase. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:42, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- There are two references in the lead; while the second one is necessary since it is regarding her date of birth, I feel the first one (the one from the infobox) should somehow be included in the body of the article instead of the lead.
- I believe reference no. 6 does not provide the link to the version of the site that was meant to provide that particular information.
- I've added a second source that confirms the same information. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:42, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- "This success was followed by her voicing lead characters in anime based on popular manga; Reira Serizawa in Nana and Misa Amane in Death Note." -> I believe this part need a source.
- "the same role also won her a nomination as "Best Main Character (female)". At the same awards, she was also nominated for "Best Supporting Character (female)", and earned two nominations for "Best Single" (One of which is a solo, "Bōken Desho Desho?"; the other was a group nomination for the single "Hare Hare Yukai")." -> These are attributed to reference no. 9, but I cannot find this information when checking that link.
- I've added a different Japanese source for that.
- "She performed at the "Animelo Summer Live" concerts between 2006 and 2008, as well as the Suzumiya Haruhi no Gekisō concert on March 18, 2007." -> I believe this need a source.
- "launching three separate singles back-to-back monthly at year's end" -> I believe this need a source.
- Removed. If you're wondering about the "success" part in the preceding paragraph, it can be inferred from the rest of the article. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:42, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- "She returned to music in 2012 and was signed to the record label Universal Sigma." -> I believe this need a source.
- It shares a source with the following sentence (i.e. [2]). It appears it does not explicitly mention the switch to Universal Sigma, so I've added an Oricon source confirming it.
- "Hirano was a guest at Anime Expo 2007, along with other cast members from The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Minori Chihara and Yūko Gotō" -> The archived link should be used since the current one does not provide the needed information.
- The source provided already uses the archive link. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:42, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- Regarding her singles (from the "Music career" subsection): I believe the release date that was provided for almost each single is not the correct one. -> For example, from my understanding after reading the information from the links, the single "Love Gun" was released on October 10, 2007, not on October 22, 2007, the single "Neophilia" was released on November 7, 2007, not on November 19, 2007, the single "MonStAR" was released on December 5, 2007, not on December 17, 2007, and so on. I believe there was a misunderstanding due to the two dates from those links and also that the second one is the release date.
- This is my mistake. When writing this section, it appears I made the mistake of looking at the chart release date instead of the CD release date. This embarrassing issue has now been addressed. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:42, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- I strongly suggest archiving all possible links.
- Not really sure how to do this, might need a bot. Is this required for the nomination to pass, or just a suggestion? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:42, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- Added archives to references with this edit. WikiVirusC(talk) 13:38, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- Not really sure how to do this, might need a bot. Is this required for the nomination to pass, or just a suggestion? Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:42, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
- Also, there is no image, but since I assume it cannot be achieved at the moment, this is not a problem.
- Indeed, no free images of Hirano appear to exist. I just took a look at Flickr and I was unable to find any suitable images. If I can get in touch with Otakon, maybe they can have some photos lying around. Narutolovehinata5 tccsdnew 02:42, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
Great job with this article! I will be more than happy to pass this article once the comments from above are resolved/answered. Flowerpiep (talk) 21:38, 8 July 2018 (UTC)Flowerpiep
I apologise for the delay. Thank you for addressing the comments from above. I have fixed the few remaining ones by myself. Furthermore, I placed the remaining reference from the lead section in the body of the article as well (while I had initially said that this reference could be kept in the lead section, I thought about this once again and came to the conclusion that it is best if there are no references in the lead since all details from there should also be present in the body of the article). Regarding the archived links, this is not listed as one of the requirements for bringing an article to GA status, so it was a suggestion; however, the links should still be archived in order to make sure the information that appears in the article is preserved. Considering that the points raised above have been solved or discussed, this is a pass. Great job! Flowerpiep (talk) 12:56, 17 July 2018 (UTC)Flowerpiep
Voice acting and television appearances
editI've ran into this issue before on Yukika Teramoto, Mamoru Miyano, and Ryunosuke Kamiki, but Aya Hirano has also made television appearances as a regular on variety shows and in live-action dramas. This article in particular states that she played one of the characters in the drama Muse no Kagami. I see that "Filmography" has been separated into "Anime", etc. but what would these roles be categorized under? lullabying (talk) 05:38, 29 September 2021 (UTC)