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A Fail and a Half

Just tried deleting WP:BW. What a failure that was.

MfD nomination of Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/BioWare

Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/BioWare, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/BioWare and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/BioWare during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 11:34, 4 November 2009 (UTC)}}

Despite those links being blue (for me, anyway), it's not showing up on MfD as anything but a red link. Help? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 11:45, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

It's appearing at the top of MfD for me. Hey, didn't know you had a BioWare project. I might even want to join. BlazerKnight (talk) 11:52, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Really? That's... weird. If you want to e-mail me (see my user page), I can show you that it's still a red link for me. As for WP:BW, it was too far, too fast and it sucks. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 11:55, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

PhantomSteve has commented so I suppose it's working for them too. Here's my screenshot for proof. Anyway don't be so hasty in deleting it, Dragon Age: Origins will probably attract more members, you probably just need to get the word out more. Consider withdrawing your nom. Also, no need to leave me talkback for Xeno's talk page, I have it watched. BlazerKnight (talk) 12:08, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

It's now showing up on mine too. Weird. And I have said that I may consider recreating it one day, but right now it's in a very sorry state and no-one seems to have the time and/or ability to give it a kick in the rear. As for the TB template, I thought you might do, but I wanted to make sure. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 12:11, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Rank

Left for when you come back, Xeno, I now premote you to a 'Splended and Majestic Tutnum' and will for here on be known as 'The Great Universe Emperour Lord Xeno' with a dely of four months since due. In February you could become 'The Great Universe Emperour Lord Xeno"cidic"' going by you previous name of splendour. After that I will add things such as 'The Supreme Universe...' and then The Grand Multiverse Emperour...' and many other things including inter and intra dimensional rulerness. Obviously the last one (name pending) would be 'The Grand and Supreme Multidimensional Emperour OverLord Xenocidic of Earth', followed by your address in Wikiland. I think the name suits you. All hail 'The Great..Xeno' =D 'The Ninjalemming' 19:01, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Get well soon

Here we go xeno, presumed due to absence and your previous note need flu medicine you were ill, so found this on the legendery commons;

Yep thinks this comes from everyone here! 'The Ninjalemming' 19:12, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it's that serious, but I've been ordered to say "Get well soon." --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 19:34, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Urgh. Now I need a get well soon card. The house is freezing, my leg's still in agony from yesterday mornong, my head is spinning, it's 4 AM and I've had three hours sleep and I just threw up every meal I've had in the last month and I did it over my pyjamas, so I can't crawl back into bed to stave off the cold. This sucks. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 04:00, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Xeno is sick, oh no! This is a disaster! Without Xeno the entire system will collapse and Wikipedia will come crashing down! We're all doomed!!!--Ezekiel 7:19 ^{S†rawberry Fields (sign)} 13:04, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks for the well-wishes guys. Still a little sick; but that's not why I've been off-wiki. –xeno^talk 14:41, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

That's what I said but... --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 14:50, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

But I'm an ijot? =) 'The Ninjalemming' 16:39, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Please tell me that spelling was intentional. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 16:40, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, don't worry it was, its a strange version of idiot said e-jit. Oh and xeno, the rank thing was mostly meant to say that you should be Vetern Editor III now, but forgot to add this bit, making it seem very weird (hee hee). 'The Ninjalemming' 16:42, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Question

I am planning on throwing myself into the pit of rabid dogs (RFA) in a month. Any suggestions on what I should be doing since I put a lot of that stuff behind me? Kevin Rutherford (talk) 00:38, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

I would advise giving it more time. Jumping back into the pool so soon is ill-advised. –xeno^talk 14:41, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 00:25, 13 November 2009

Split Second

Can you fix this image problem (Image). This image have to go to this article : Split Second (1992 film) and this image goes to this article: Split Second (video game). What a mess up. Thanks. --SkyWalker (talk) 07:47, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

 Fixed, I think. –xeno^talk 14:48, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Userbox

Is this how a userbox should be created? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 19:32, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Pretty much, yes... –xeno^talk 19:39, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

This maybe no help (as of yet) but are you really in morning or are you writing it because you know some one who is or what? I will see if I can find a colour that may suit it, though I propose white. Symbolically this may be best. I spelt that wrong didn't I 'The Ninjalemming' 19:44, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Checking your userpage I now know yes, yes you are. Sorry mate. =( 'The Ninjalemming' 19:46, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

It's a friend who's in mourning. I am by extension because I care for her. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 19:47, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Alright then, in all politness check ya talk page again and the bloking admin. 'The Ninjalemming' 19:49, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Is there any help you can give me for it? The text colour didn't look right no matter what I tried. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 19:42, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

To change the color of wikilinks you need to put the color statement inside the piped portion. –xeno^talk 19:54, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

This was kinda mixed up with the rest but as I said above I'd say whte as it is symbolic for purity, innocence, good ect. Which works with the tone. 'The Ninjalemming' 19:58, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Didn't work, xeno. Can you do it for me please? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 20:00, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

yeah I tried to do a revert out as well and it became tableamafied, and seperated. I fail at everything. =( I could do this before, I'll retry it on one of my useboxen. 'The Ninjalemming' 20:05, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, xeno. I hadn't used a pipelink in it, that was why. Silly me. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 20:08, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Damn it, just managed to make this one (with the revert out thogh it doesn't look as good as I wanted it to) after xeno fixed it

This user is in mourning, please be friendly.

The coding is complex 'The Ninjalemming' 20:12, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hey Xeno. This user is vandalising a lot. [1] Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 03:16, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Looks like NW got to them for 48 hours. Peculiar as they also have many good faith edits in their history... –xeno^talk 23:01, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Invitation to participate in SecurePoll feedback and workshop

As you participated in the recent Audit Subcommittee election, or in one of two requests for comment that relate to the use of SecurePoll for elections on this project, you are invited to participate in the SecurePoll feedback and workshop. Your comments, suggestions and observations are welcome.

For the Arbitration Committee,
Risker (talk) 08:37, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Bot request

So I know why I don't have a pile of barnstars. You give me one, and I pretty much disappear for a year as far as my edit count shows! But things are picking up again, and here I am with a request for a WikiProject newsletter delivery. There is a new edition of the WP New Jersey newsletter at Wikipedia:WikiProject New Jersey/Newsletter/20091115 and a delivery list at Wikipedia:WikiProject New Jersey/Newsletter/Signup, if you would be so kind. Thanks Jim Miller ^{See me | Touch me} 22:34, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Ha! Sure, can do... –xeno^talk 22:37, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and since it's been a while, this template requires the |collapsed parameter to work right. Thanks. Jim Miller ^{See me | Touch me} 22:40, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Uber Ultra Omgz Strong Keep

First time in general use: [2]. Thanks for the smile :)

		The Barnstar of Good Humor
		This barnstar is awarded to xeno, for his wonderful and contagious sense of humor Ikip (talk) 22:49, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Ha! Nice. But you forgot the ümlaut! The ümlaut is what gives it its extra power! –xeno^talk 22:52, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

I hate to be a git (I lie, I love to be a git), but you forgot the ümlaut too. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 08:21, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, I added it afterwards =) –xeno^talk 13:18, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

If you watch Zero Punctuation, can I ask what you thought of Yahtzee constantly mispronouncing Brütal Legend? And how do you add an ümlaut anyway? I've just been copy-pasting from you. :P --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 13:32, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

I use the charmap. –xeno^talk 13:39, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Ah, thanks! --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 17:47, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Taking the mick

You have forced me to actually create content. I shall not easily forgive you. --Floquenbeam (talk) 23:14, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

You can blame stuff like Kitchen Nightmares and the original Wife Swap for that =) –xeno^talk 03:26, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Tagging

I see you erased our query. I hope you haven't forgotten about us.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 07:06, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, MiszaBot took your thread away. But I still plan to get to this =) –xeno^talk 16:35, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

O.K. Thanks in advance.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 16:01, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Clever, that, replying at the 48 hour mark =) I keep forgetting to email myself the requisite config file so I can do this. –xeno^talk 16:19, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Overzealous semi-protect

I think you may have jumped the gun by semi-protecting Mickey Mouse for a year. It looks like vandalism edits by IPs are only running an average of one a day at most, with a similar level of at least plausibly useful edits from non-vandal IPs. Only three vandalisms occurred today, and two of them were by the same IP (which argues for a sanction on that IP, not a blanket protect). Even if you were applying a cool off period, that argues for a three day protect, not a full year. —ShadowRanger ^(talk|stalk) 19:02, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

If you would commit to watching the article and ensuring vandalism doesn't get thru, I'll lower it. I should note that before I unprotected it on the 10th, it was indefinitely semi-protected. –xeno^talk 19:07, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Ah. Didn't notice that. I've already added it to my watchlist (did so before you requested, my watchlist is already largely an eclectic mix of random articles I noticed on RCP). I can't guarantee I'll catch everything, but I do tend to go through articles changes since my last visit and check for vandalism at least once a day. —ShadowRanger ^(talk|stalk) 19:12, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

k, unprotected. cheers, –xeno^talk 19:16, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. If the IP vandals get out of control I'll re-request protection, but for now I think IP editors are doing more good than harm, and I hate needing to shutdown all IP users because of a few jerks. I edited as an IP user intermittently for years before finally registering this account last Spring, so unnecessary semi-protects were my nemesis. :-) —ShadowRanger ^(talk|stalk) 19:41, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

As do I, but sometimes it's a necessary evil to give folks like us a break. –xeno^talk 19:57, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Rollback

Would I be applicable for rollback in the near future if the situation demands it? 'The Ninjalemming' 18:33, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Very likely. You've been on longer than I have and I got it within, what, thirty seconds of asking what it was. I still find that amusing. I was merely asking what it was, not whether or not I could have it. :P Anyway, even if you can't get it, Twinkle seems to have it by default, so install that (if you have Firefox, anyway). --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 18:35, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Remember this is my computer your talking about, it once rejected BBC thinking it was possibly contaminated. Was does the shiny bottom look like anyway? =D 'The Ninjalemming' 18:39, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Granted, just make sure you only use it for clear cut cases of vandalism. –xeno^talk 18:40, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Err, Ace it happened again; not sayng noo but was only inquiring about it. Thank you very much anway, now to test it on my sandbox. That is okay isn't it? 'The Ninjalemming' 18:42, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that's fine. –xeno^talk 18:43, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Done, though I was expecting something more spectacular. Althouh I did shout 'die vandalism' while doing it. 'The Ninjalemming' 18:51, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

<smirk> –xeno^talk 18:51, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

(headdesk) You're both loons. Ninjalemming for shouting "die, vandalism!" and xeno for just handing it out to anyone who inquires. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 18:03, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

He knows how to play the cards right, even when the chips are down. 'The Ninjalemming' 18:14, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Rollback is NBD =) –xeno^talk 18:17, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

I remember, otherwise it wouldn't come as standard with Twinkle, but I thought you were still supposed to actually review users. I got my in thirty seconds. Not much reviewing going on there. >.> --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 18:42, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

I reviewed a handful of your Twinkle rollbacks knew you could be trusted not to abuse it and I reviewed any 'undoing vandalism' from Ninja and saw no issues. –xeno^talk 18:45, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

I only just installed Twinkle. I presume that's why you crossed it out? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 21:28, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I misremembered =) –xeno^talk 13:34, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Slightly less Rollback subject

Dispite the title I'm not here to say "Oh God! I can't handle the power! Take it away! Away I say! <sob sob>", I'm here simply to say how do you put the small symbols in the top right hand side of a page (I want to do it with rollback, it amuses me) 'The Ninjalemming' 17:58, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

I think it's {{rollback}}. –xeno^talk 18:17, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

How do I get {{rollback}} and {{email user}} on the same page? They keep merging together in the preview window. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 18:42, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

You need to add an offset (see the template page for instructions). –xeno^talk 18:45, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Forget it, don't want it any more. (headdesk) Sorry. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 21:28, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Really it wasn't that hard =) –xeno^talk 13:36, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

It's not that I couldn't do it, it's that, like I said, I actually didn't want it anymore. After a bit of thought, I decided it wasn't really necessary. Or do you think I should keep it? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 15:10, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh, ok, I misinterpreted your (headdesk). It's really up to you. I know that some editors regard things like {{rollback}} and {{accountcreator}} as little more than "brightly coloured baubles" and look down their nose at editors who they believe to just be collecting them for the sake of having the notch on their belt. Not that I think about them this way, but just to give you some perspective. –xeno^talk 15:16, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

No problem. That's partly why I came to the conclusion to not have them. The headdesk was in response my wasting your time. Since I've now done it again when you added them to my page, here's another! (headdesk) --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 15:29, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

← Well, stop lazing about and go write some articles! =) –xeno^talk 15:42, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I'm starting to dislike Twinkle. Since I've installed it, I seem to have done nothing but fight vandals. Yes, it's cathartic, yes, it's useful, but my talk page edits have skyrocketed. I've done less work on articles than I did when I was stuck at the library. How's that for kick-in-the-teeth irony? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 15:48, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Warnings? We don't need no stinking warnings.

I usually don't bother warning vandals: I think it encourages them. Just removing their vandalism without any fanfare is anti-climactic for them and they get bored. Of course, I have the ability to just block 'em if I was wrong and they persist despite my lack of warning =] –xeno^talk 15:49, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah... hey, I don't suppose you could nominate me for an RfA? /total sarcasm, please for the love of God, don't take that seriously, I am not ready to become an admin, if I ever will be. /run-on sentence --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 15:52, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm notorious for promising nom statements and never getting around to writing them - so maybe I should stop promising =) In the mean-time, you ought read User:Balloonman/How to pass an RfA. Sage advice, that. –xeno^talk 15:54, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, I think I pass most of the recommendations for an RfA, but I still don't think I have what it takes (major self-confidence issues). Since you linked me to that, were you simply being helpful or do you actually think that one day I might have what it takes to be an admin? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 16:01, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

You seem to have a good head on your shoulders, which is really all you need. –xeno^talk 16:15, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I've also found myself biting people recently. >.> --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 16:18, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, yes, you should try to stay cool when the editing gets hot. –xeno^talk 16:21, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

← The latest issue was this if you want a read. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 16:26, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Yea, you really need to tone it down or stuff like this will come back to bite you later; whether a user is right or wrong, keep a calm, diplomatic tone and be patient. –xeno^talk 13:47, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

(sighs) I know, I know. That's what frustrates me. I only open my mouth to swap feet. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 14:27, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Ottava Rima arbitration case

I have cited your statement in my evidence here. Please feel free to clarify or respond on the evidence talk page or my user talk page. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 23:04, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the note. –xeno^talk 13:42, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for jumping in on my talk page to help with all of the rabid fans. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 18:50, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

No problem. I found nothing in Google News that would prop her up at this time... –xeno^talk 18:51, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Things seem to have settle down now. Or perhaps the big red boxes helped. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 21:02, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Well she started tweeting about other stuff (yes, I shamelessly followed her), so her legion of loyal followers probably lost interest in the "Wiki-Fight" as she calls it =) –xeno^talk 21:10, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I didn't follow her (my account's now gotten dusty), but I did bookmark her to keep an eye on her. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 21:12, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I'll probably unfollow her shortly (as I do anyone who tweets too often) - I just wanted to follow the ongoing saga. –xeno^talk 21:14, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Her loyal followers seemed to have moved on and are not really that numerous. Shrug. Thanks again. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 00:59, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

And I've unfollowed her because she tweets nonsense and far too often. –xeno^talk 20:56, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Request

Hi, xeno. If you have a spare moment later, would you mind blocking Javert (just in case)? Thanks, –Katerenka ^☆ 09:52, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

 Done –xeno^talk 13:42, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Thankx, xeno. :) –Katerenka ^☆ 21:14, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Your comments on my request for clarification

I've added a comment to show why I don't think your comment is correct - I'm not sure if that was the right thing to do... Deb (talk) 19:00, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Users will typically put a ;Response to (X) header if they are responding directly to another users' statement. Though I think "until" and "unless" have pretty much the same meaning in this case. –xeno^talk 19:03, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

My Signature

No problem.My signature looks better now!!!! arunkumar^{checkmate me} 04:37, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Help

New problem posted on my user page! It may be hard to understand though. I'm really bad at explaining things.--Ezekiel 7:19 ^{S†rawberry Fields (sign)} 23:13, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Oh and another thing, how do I find out how long I've been on wikipedia and how many edits I've made?--Ezekiel 7:19 ^{S†rawberry Fields (sign)} 23:39, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I've been trying to help with the former and failing, but here's the latter. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 23:42, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

I am amazing! --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 23:54, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

• Talk page stalkers 4tw! –xeno^talk 13:42, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually, xeno, you may need to check it out anyway... >.> --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 14:27, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Looks fine to me... –xeno^talk 14:47, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

I couldn't get the next one down to fit the same coding. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 14:50, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

I normally float elements to the right thusly (follows) –xeno^talk 14:51, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

{| style="background:none" align="right"
|-
| (content here)
|}

He actually explained it badly. Full details here (along with a bit of an explanation as to what I've been trying to do) and my experimental follies are on display on his user page. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 20:43, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Can I get the executive summary? –xeno^talk 20:47, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

My coding sucks? That's... pretty much all I can say. Ezekiel might have more though. Possibly "his coding really sucks and I'm regretting giving him that barnstar." --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 20:53, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Hey hey hey.....hey. What are you getting at? My coding maybe unskilled but all I was just trying to say was... Revert it back to the way it was before you started editing, add in the infobox, and shorten the hidden bars so they don't overlap the infobox! Is it really that hard to understand! I feel really bad though, I'm being such a jerk and mooching off my friends to get them to do stuff for me. I'm really sorry... Wait a minute, you never gave me a barnstar.--Ezekiel 7:19 ^{S†rawberry Fields (sign)} 23:50, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Understanding fail. I meant that you would say my coding sucks and regret giving me the barnstar. >.> --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 23:57, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Don't be too hard on yourself. No matter what, your always a better coder than me Jade.--Ezekiel 7:19 ^{S†rawberry Fields (sign)} 00:00, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

• By executive summary, I meant, tell me what needs done in 20 words or less. I find the best way to prevent elements overlapping eachother is to use nested tables. –xeno^talk 00:05, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Want an executive summary? Look at the bolded words.--Ezekiel 7:19 ^{S†rawberry Fields (sign)} 00:08, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

[3] ? Bars are kinda short now and hidden begin doesn't seem to allow for a width param. –xeno^talk 00:22, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, whatever you did, it was better than what I did. I created Frankenstein's template, gluing parts from four or more other templates together semi-randomly. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 00:28, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Here is what I was talking about, see this diff? See how the two bars overlap the infobox? Can you shorten them just small enough so they don't overlap and do the same to the other bars. I don't need to have more than 1 in each row. Just 1 per row, one on top of another. Hows that sound?--Ezekiel 7:19 ^{S†rawberry Fields (sign)} 15:20, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

How about now? –xeno^talk 15:25, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Can you shorten them even more so they will go up to be next to the infobox?--Ezekiel 7:19 ^{S†rawberry Fields (sign)} 15:27, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, I suck. Should I delete the barnstar you gave me and hand it to xeno? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 15:42, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

I lowered it to 60% width; I guess you're on 1024x768? Lower it more if it still doesn't look right. –xeno^talk 15:44, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Sooooooooo Close. At firstI thought it was finished but them I clicked the "My Userboxes" bar and for some reason, all of the bars moved below the infobox. See for yourself. Why is that so?--Ezekiel 7:19 ^{S†rawberry Fields (sign)} 17:18, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Odd. On mine they simply go down as far as needed, though the bars do expand (that's because of the userbox table though). --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 17:20, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Thats exactly what mine does, they do go down as far as need and expand. Perhaps we can adjust it so there is two columns instead of three. Would that help?--Ezekiel 7:19 ^{S†rawberry Fields (sign)} 17:22, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Let's find out. (starts editing) --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 17:28, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Works on mine. What about you? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 17:30, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

I think y'all both need to invest in wider monitors =) –xeno^talk 18:08, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

 Done Thanks a lot guys! Barnstars for the both of you!--Ezekiel 7:19 ^{S†rawberry Fields (sign)} 18:10, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

		The Helper of Zeke Barnstar
		This user has generously helped Zeke with his problems and has been given this award directly by him to prove it. Thanks for all the help Xeno!--Ezekiel 7:19 S†rawberry Fields (sign) 18:10, 20 November 2009 (UTC) Click here to see if Zeke has a problem that need to be solved.

"Y'all both"? That's just the worst grammar I've seen in six minutes. And Ezekiel, you say "barnstars for the both of you." Does that mean I'm getting another one, or are you counting the one you've already given me? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 18:17, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Check the description under Zeke's current problem and find out.--Ezekiel 7:19 ^{S†rawberry Fields (sign)} 18:46, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

I will when you alter it. :P --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 18:52, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

• Cool, thanks for the b.s. =) –xeno^talk 19:54, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Regarding RfD closes

Hi, thanks for helping out with the RfD backlog. I may be mistaken here, but when deleting pages shouldn't you use an edit summary (or delete summary) of the pages date, instead of just RfD? Example here: Hiroshima terrorist attack I suspect from looking at it that after the page is archived in a couple of days, that link to the RfD will break, whilst a link to the RfD date page will persist. Apologies if I am incorrect, however I thought its better to ask and be wrong than remain silent! Happy editing, --Taelus (talk) 19:47, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out; just an error on my part (fixed). Cheers, –xeno^talk 19:53, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks alot! --Taelus (talk) 11:57, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Issue

Could you use your magic powers and please fix the issue where this page is labeled as a page when in actuality it is a template. Thank you. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 19:04, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

 Done –xeno^talk 19:13, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

No probs

Look I have no intention of arguing this. You quote process, I claim due diligence. I understand your concern here. I hope you empathize with mine. I won't overturn anything you do regarding this, and I only sought out to clarify to CJC on a few points that I felt were overlooked in her communication to me on my talk page. I just noticed the response at the AN where I had posted last night. Someone has a theory about me! How exciting... (bleh).

I noticed the IP's activity when I was looking at a totally unrelated user page that said some thing like "This interests me [4]." Then I got interested as well. And I decided to read every one of their contributions.

I submit, there are a lot of people who appreciate "wild card" humor of this nature. I personally don't like to see it encouraged. Best regards, Hamster Sandwich (talk) 23:50, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

I do understand where you are coming from but my only suggestion would be: 1) don't block IPs indefinitely and 2) don't jump right to a year either. Remember that a lengthy block of say, over a month, will either cause the user to: 1) give up vandalizing wikipedia or 2) reset their connection and get a new IP, essentially releasing the now lengthy-blocked IP to someone who may want to contribute constructively. Jmho. –xeno^talk 23:51, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

On this we agree. I am always amenable to good ideas. Thanks - Hamster Sandwich (talk) 23:59, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Great! Thanks for dropping by =] Cheers, –xeno^talk 00:04, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Userboxen

I've just created two userboxen to try to calm down any disputes I may have, but they're a bit broken. They are here and here. I want the text to be stretched horizontally rather than vertically, so that it looks like any old normal userbox, but the only way I've seen to do that is to shrink the pictures to a size that's practically impossible to see clearly. Any advice? And if you have any better links, feel free to change the ones I've put in so far. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 16:31, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

So you don't mind if they're wider than a regular userbox? –xeno^talk 18:52, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Not at all. I just want them to be, if not the normal height (I'll admit that one of them seems to have far too much text), far more stretched horizontally than vertically. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 18:54, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

The {{userbox-2}} template is hard-coded at 238px width; you'll need to subst it and change that manually to taste. e.g. –xeno^talk 18:57, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you, that looks exactly how I wanted it. Just so one of us doesn't waste our time, are you going to do the second one or are you leaving that to me? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 19:01, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Give a man a fish... =) –xeno^talk 19:03, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

And Jesus comes along with a replicator? :P I presume that means I should do it? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 19:06, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

That's affirmative, Cap'n. =) –xeno^talk 19:06, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Please tell me you prefer Picard to Kirk. xD --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 19:08, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Does the fact that I am a fan of tea - earl grey (hot) answer your question? –xeno^talk 19:13, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

(falls off chair, laughing) Yes. Yes, it does. :P Regarding the second userbox, is this okay? And should I increase the size of the olive branch? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 19:15, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

← Yea, I think 75px works well. –xeno^talk 19:18, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. Not only are you funny, friendly and helpful, you're also a Star Trek fan. I'm liking you more and more. :D --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 19:21, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Why is it that all of your userboxen seem to have a derivative section? I can understand crediting the original coder, but it just seems strange when you compare this one and this one, which are totally unrelated. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 19:28, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm just a bit of a stickler about proper attribution. The Assassin's Creed userbox is similar enough in colour composition to warrant crediting the designer of the Portal box. However your mourning box is so far away from my AC box that I don't think the attribution is necessary. –xeno^talk 19:38, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Okay, then. (will remove) Thanks for the answer. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 19:46, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

In the interests of improving Wikipedia as a whole, this user would like to offer a truce and put aside all past differences.

Just tried this out on a userpage but, as you can see, the text is automatically shunted to the side, even if it's on the next line on the edit screen. Should I put the {{-}} outside of the "do not include" tags or would that mess things up? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 20:05, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Either putting it in the included part or just making sure to clear it every time you use it would be fine. –xeno^talk 20:13, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Because I'm a cretin, I'll probably forget, so it's going into the included part. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 20:22, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

usurpation request from pl-wiki

I carefully reviewed this case. It seems that the usurped user fulfilled the criteria only technically. S/he contributed only to one article, on many occasions in a series of subsequent minor edits. The total number of edits, excluding the minor ones and one-liners is minimal and by all reasonable standards this user should not be treated on par with editors writing 10 quality, significant articles. On the other hand, the usurper is an established, well-known and trusted user from en-wiki. Therefore the request seems not only reasonable, but also only natural. Pundit|utter 18:36, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

I noticed this as well but wasn't sure if it was appropriate to point out. Thanks kindly for fulfilling this request! I am now fully unified =) –xeno^talk 18:37, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm glad I could help :) cheers Pundit|utter 18:41, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Canada – United States relations

Hi Xeno, with regards to edit-warring by IP 174.7.14.105 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) at Canada – United States relations (which you just protected), I personally would consider a block on that IP to be more appropriate than page protection, as the IP is the only one edit-warring (others, including myself, are in discussion on talk page). Note that I gave the IP a "last warning" yet the IP continues to edit war (and posted an interesting comment-- make that two interesting comments-- in reponse). Cheers, -M.Nelson (talk) 02:08, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

PS I reported to WP:AIV; someone else will probably handle it. Cheers, -M.Nelson (talk) 02:38, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

• Someone should probably initiate a straw poll. –xeno^talk 16:22, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Personal Attack on User:71.174.142.108

Urgh, it figures that on the day I create two userboxen to calm down a dispute I act like this. I've reported myself to the blocking admin, but I figured I should tell you as well, since you're the one who's been an unofficial mentor to me. I want to report myself for a personal attack against him. This is the only time in my nine months on Wikipedia that I've acted like this, but I'm not happy with myself. I'm ashamed that I lost my temper like this and I will accept any punishment either you or the IP's blocking admin deem necessary. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 03:52, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

If you're curious, PMDrive1061 decided to forgive me here and here, though if you think differently, I will still accept punishment. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 04:08, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Then, as your unofficial mentor, I'll just advise you again to WP:STAYCOOL. =) Take the higher ground. –xeno^talk 16:23, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Seriously? I honestly expected to be blocked by someone. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 16:30, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Are you planning to make comments like that again? No? Then a block would be merely punitive; something we claim not to do around here. Besides, I typically don't make administrative actions on editors I work closely with; nor do I enforce WP:CIV... –xeno^talk 16:34, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

No, I'm not intending to make comments like that again, but I didn't mean to do it that time. If you're sure though... --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 16:36, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Wait, what the hell am I doing? I'm complaining that I haven't being blocked? (facepalm) --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 16:37, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Sometimes I'll write something up and preview it and realize that it won't lead to anything productive and I'll just cancel the edit and move on to something else. Try that next time =) –xeno^talk 16:38, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

I'll try to remember. Thanks for being so forgiving. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 16:42, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of video games exclusive to a seventh generation console

An editor has nominated one or more articles which you have created or worked on, for deletion. The nominated article is List of video games exclusive to a seventh generation console. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also Wikipedia:Notability and "What Wikipedia is not").

Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion(s) by adding your comments to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of video games exclusive to a seventh generation console. Please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~).

You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate.

Please note: This is an automatic notification by a bot. I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 01:53, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks, it seems the nominator lacked the common courtesy to notify me! –xeno^talk 02:01, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
  • I thought I would link you to this page: Console exclusivity which I created a while ago, actually inspired by the WT:VG discussion since it seems to be a notable topic with no coverage on Wikipedia. I am unsure if you can establish notability for your list using it, since a list would be a sort of "sub page" to compliment a main page, but thought you could take a look at it anyway. BBC News, Gamespot and CNET all give some strong attention to the role of console exclusivity, whilst the LA Times and Daily Telegraph only touch upon it, but still I feel that does establish notability. Hope this helps, happy editing. --Taelus (talk) 12:00, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
    • Thanks. Yes, I saw the article. Something I planned to write myself one day, but I plan to write a lot of things that are still redlinked so I'm glad someone else did it =). The nom smacks of IDONTLIKEIT and I've unfortunately seen a lot of anti-console sentiment from the participants in the VG project. –xeno^talk 17:20, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

What's this about anti-console sentiment? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 17:26, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Just a general feeling I get... –xeno^talk 17:29, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Do I have permission to be offended then? :P --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 17:35, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Comment

• Looking at the AfD it seems to have some issue that people link it to the main list articles, rather than to the parent article, and thus they see it as a list based off a list. Perhaps a page move/slight redesign would be the best thing to do? Perhaps converting it into coverage of console exclusivity in the 7th generation, and linking it to the parent article, and then using it as a "See also" on relevant pages? Whilst I disagree with the current 'consensus' on AfD, I think that in order to maintain this information we should perhaps rewrite it and move the page to fulfil a purpose specifically relevant to the parent article. Thoughts? --Taelus (talk) 15:23, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Please do be bold and hack it about if you think it will help. I think the users voting for delete are very short-sighted. –xeno^talk 17:07, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

I threw the idea of mashing the information about and potentially basing it off console exclusivity, and potentially developing it into a subsection of that article with a supporting list, into the AfD. If there isn't strong opposition against it then I will userfy the article shortly before the AfD closes and see what can be done with it. I'll throw you a link in that case. Hope this helps, --Taelus (talk) 18:39, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

If anything, the "important/notable" console exclusives should be mentioned in your parent article. –xeno^talk 18:52, 25 November 2009 (UTC)

Sadly it seems to be doomed due to a mix of "conduct not content" and "policy not project". Whilst I do assume good faith of others involved, if you look at it and think "What if another editor had created the page?", then the nomination would have occured differently, and the AfD would be turning out differently. It's rather disheartening really, but that is only my personal view. Still though, I hope it doesn't discourage you from making bold changes in future. --Taelus (talk) 19:57, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

The whole affair boggles the mind. –xeno^talk 20:01, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Adoption

I tried to copy what you did with BlazerKnight at the top of your page here but it's not working. Any idea what I did wrong? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 16:58, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Had to change section number to 1 and noinclude the 2L header... [5]. –xeno^talk 17:08, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! So, when the next thread appears, should I do this?

<noinclude>

==Questions==

</noinclude>

===12 July to 23 July===

Is that right? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 17:13, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Depends on if you want the 3L header showing up in your talk page table of contents... If not, the closing noinclude goes below the header. –xeno^talk 17:15, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

I think I'll have the level three header on my talk page. Thanks. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 17:18, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

You might want to use 4L headers so they nest beneath Questions 3L. –xeno^talk 20:08, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

I just copied yours. >.> --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 20:10, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Yep, but I don't transclude my headings =) –xeno^talk 20:15, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Then why are they even there? (scratches head) --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 20:16, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

So you can see them on the actual page but not the page where it is being transcluded, adding entries to the TOC... –xeno^talk 20:25, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Good point. Silly me. (facepalm) I'm failing far too much today. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 20:27, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Confirmed user

Hi Xeno, can this [6] be undone? I'm not familiar with the procedure... seems that User:PlannerPenBackpack may be one in a long line of sockpuppets of a banned user (Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/TrEeMaNsHoE). Until confirmed, I feel this person should not be editing the Ciara-related article(s). Thanks - eo (talk) 22:33, 28 November 2009 (UTC)

Never mind, it seems the situation has been taken care of  :-) - eo (talk) 12:00, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Y Work done, not by me? Sweet! Thanks for letting me know. –xeno^talk 14:39, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Request

Could you move the template Template:Wiki Project Cape Cod and the Islands to Template:WikiProject Cape Cod and the Islands? Thanks. Kevin Rutherford (talk) 17:13, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

 Done –xeno^talk 13:56, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Predators histmerge.

Yo again, Could you do an history merge from this to this article?. The "(2010 film)" is unnecessary. Thank you again. --SkyWalker (talk) 14:23, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

 Done –xeno^talk 14:27, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. --SkyWalker (talk) 15:22, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Editor review

As my unofficial mentor, I wondered if you might like to take a look at my request for an editor review. Thanks. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 00:17, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

You missed this so I've wrestled it back from the cold, steel grip of MiszaBot... --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 14:25, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

I was trying to pretend I didn't see it, given that editor reviews involve, y'know, doing stuff, or looking at things =p =p –xeno^talk 14:27, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

I did that you might like to look at it. You don't have to. :P --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 14:32, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

I took a quick look. Looks like you're getting some decent feedback and not just the circle-jerk/pat-on-the-back kind either, so that's good. –xeno^talk 14:39, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 14:46, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

Nomination drive

I offered Guyinblack25 (talk · contribs) a nomination, I see concerns about the other three users you offered. Thanks Secret ^account 22:35, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Sure, no problem. I didn't vet them at all for issues, owing to the aforementioned lazyness and such =] –xeno^talk 14:05, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Help request from a noob

Well, I'm not necessarily a new person, but I am quite fuzzy to the rules. I've noticed you on several pages and thought you were possibly someone who might be able to help out if you so choose. If you would help me understand, I could hopefully avoid any trouble with rules and whatnot. Thank you for your time. --ҚЯĀŽΨÇÉV13 ^{other crap} 23:35, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Sure, I'm always happy to help. Just drop by whenever you have a question. –xeno^talk 14:06, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. --ҚЯĀŽΨÇÉV13 ^{other crap} 14:12, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Offer's open on my talk page too if you want to ask me anything. My adoptees have gone silent after I adopted them. >.> Was it something I said? :P --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 15:24, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Lots of adoptions go that way. That's why I'd recommend only setting up an adoption subpage after they've proven themselves to be pretty active =) –xeno^talk 15:30, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

(facepalm) They looked active at the time. :( I has a sad now. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 15:38, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Chicago bot tagging

Would you kindly run the bot on our project again.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 14:19, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Sure, will try to do so tonight or tomorrow this week. Here's a preview. –xeno^talk 15:43, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Updated ETC. –xeno^talk 22:38, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Well... Sometime this month! =) –xeno^talk 14:03, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Does "Updated ETC" mean it did something. I am not seeing tagging activity.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 00:41, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Estimated time to completion... No, haven't started yet... –xeno^talk 16:24, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

• Gah. I might extend a slight explanation for my procrastination: I've recently moved. In my old place, my PC was in my living room. Now it is in my man cave, however I haven't really had the time to hibernate there that often. I will really try to address this shortly =) –xeno^talk 14:41, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

•  Task complete. 434 edits. See also User talk:Wuhwuzdat#Chicago tagging for some scope issues. –xeno^talk 19:21, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
  • Thanks. I had expected more new articles for the length of time since the last run. Thanks. You found us a new GA.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:27, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Req for a little guidance please :)

Heya Xeno, it’s been a while since we crossed paths. I know you’re a whiz on coding, and I’d like some pointers on an edit filter if you have some time to give general advice? There’s a serial vandal that could be handled easily with a filter (rangeblocks have failed as they just get a new range with the same ISP, and perm semi on multiple articles for one person’s vandalism is silly). To get started, I’ve identified some suitable trigger words, ie the addition of the genres 'Survival' and 'Horror' to these three articles (diffs of vandalism provided below):

• Digimon Frontier,
• Adventure
• Data Squad

Thus how would one devise a filter to cover IP editors adding those genre keywords to these three articles? Cheers for any pointers, as once I know how to do it I’d pick up on it easily. Or even a link to a similar filter to use as a template would likely be very helpful. NJA (t/c) 11:18, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi Nja! I saw your comments and mild frustration at WT:EF. I am really not that up-to-speed on edit filters; my area-of-expertise (and I use that term lightly) is in wikicode whereas filters heavily use regex. But let me take a quick look and see if there's a similar filter... I'm sure there is. –xeno^talk 13:40, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Try modeling it after Special:AbuseFilter/38 ? –xeno^talk 13:52, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

That does seem to be an excellent example. I didn't consider searching deleted filters. After reading through its comments, I'm beginning to think there's a group of people who like to keep tight control on edit filter usage. I will see what I can do, and that is a very good find that will certainly be the basis for anything I do end up devising. Thanks! NJA (t/c) 14:33, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but there is a reason. When there are too many filters, especially filters that take a long time to process, it slows down every time you press "save page". I think there was one filter that added a few seconds to every edit! –xeno^talk 14:53, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Xenobot Mk V

Hi. Your bot seems to be forgetting to auto assess.[7] :) Road Wizard (talk) 20:22, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Crud! Thanks, it had crashed and I forgot to set autostub. Going back over the 135 that got fudged... –xeno^talk 20:25, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Who is hopiakuta

Who exactly is User:hopiakuta? Is he really up for adoption? The Arbiter^★_★^★ 23:23, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes...probably... I think he was looking for more than 1 adopter... He's a good faith user who sometimes gets mistaken for a vandal and this often upsets them greatly. –xeno^talk 20:22, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

• < http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=user_talk:topbanana&diff=329702956&oldid=329701372 >: an example of my thinking that a word means one definition, & others derive something else.

• DonFphrnqTaub Persina has a keyboard; HopiaKuta is a red-eared-slider_turtle; hopiakuta is a screenname.

• What has inspired your question?

• What is an arbiter?
• ∴
• therefore_symbol
• ∴
• ( $\therefore \!\,$ ) ( $\ therefore\!\,$ )

hopiakuta Please do sign your communiqué .~~Thank You, DonFphrnqTaub Persina. 19:00, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Please do blow some oxygen into my windfarm.

hopiakuta Please do sign your communiqué .~~Thank You, DonFphrnqTaub Persina. 21:10, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Hello, Xeno. You have new messages at Hopiakuta's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

• This has inspired a new page.
• Thank You,
• hopiakuta Please do sign your communiqué .~~Thank You, DonFphrnqTaub Persina. 01:10, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

This user knows that whether she's killing you with her mind or just plain terminating you, Summer Glau kicks some serious ass.

• If the only human-being - category - image has such a tiny pica caption that we have to spend many months to decipher, then we wonder whether that represents the primary person referenced as the page - subject; it has taken until tonight to figure what that photograph is:

• Summer_Lyn_Glau

• file : Summer_Glau_2006.jpg

hopiakuta Please do sign your communiqué .~~Thank You, DonFphrnqTaub Persina. 01:55, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

• * * * Why? Please?
• < http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=user_talk:hopiakuta&diff=330251670&oldid=330250062 >.

hopiakuta Please do sign your communiqué .~~Thank You, DonFphrnqTaub Persina. 15:35, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Please do blow some oxygen into my windfarm.

hopiakuta Please do sign your communiqué .~~Thank You, DonFphrnqTaub Persina. 21:10, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Not sure I follow =] –xeno^talk 21:25, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• < http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=user_talk:xeno&diff=329714134&oldid=329694209 >.

hopiakuta Please do sign your communiqué .~~Thank You, DonFphrnqTaub Persina. 21:35, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• • • Sorry...what? The Arbiter^★_★^★ 21:52, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

AN/I

Is AN/I always so... crowded? It was hard to find anything in there. Why can't it be like, say, MfD, where there's very little on the main page in terms of coding and everything is in separate pages that are transcluded to the page proper? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 00:17, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Mmm... This has been suggested in the past, I believe. There was some progress to reform but, like all things here, the discussion eventually stalled. We collectively fear change. I try my best to unwatch ANI as soon as I can no longer find my name when I "ctrl-f" for it. –xeno^talk 20:22, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh, hell, I can't find my name even when I do Ctrl+F for it. As for fearing change, it can't be that hard, surely? It'd take, what, an hour? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 20:35, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

There's pros and cons to the subpage method. Major contra being that the subpages would be far less widely watched than ANI is now (upwards of 4000 last I checked). –xeno^talk 13:42, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but a major pro would be that it would stop things like this happening. No idea how that happened. I got an edit conflict, but I only copy-pasted my section to the top window. Fortunately, it was easy to undo the flawed part of the edit. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 13:59, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Would reduce it somewhat but not prevent it entirely... –xeno^talk 14:07, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Maybe it wouldn't stop the phantom edit eater entirely for the larger threads, but it would save a lot of hassle for everyone. Hell, if I get more than five edit conflicts in a row (far more common than I'd like), I give serious thought to just giving up on posting my thought. How would one go about requesting consensus for change (hypothetically, since I don't like being in the limelight all that much)? Just ask on the talk page? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 14:14, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Seems to be related to some db error: Wikipedia:AN#Can't protect pages. And yes, you can revisit it on WT:AN. I would review the past discussion and try to find why/where it stalled and see if you can address that. –xeno^talk 14:20, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

So Elen of the Roads told me. Thanks for the information. I'll have a flick through the old conversation and see if it's worth restarting right now. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 15:02, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Semi-Related Query

How would one go about requesting a change in policy? I know IPs can't create pages, but I've seen an awful lot of new users lately create their first page in good faith and have it die a horrible, speedy deletion related death and then vanish. There was even an experiment about the treatment of new editors creating articles. Has there been any previous discussion about forcing new editors to make, say, a hundred edits to other articles to help them learn from any mistakes before unlocking the ability to create an article for the encyclopaedia proper (but no restrictions on personal sandboxes so that, if they wish, they can create a page there and move it into the encyclopaedia when it's/they're ready). It would also stop all but the most determined trolls from creating attack pages at the same time. This is just a vague train of thought that's been floating around my head for a few days and I haven't given it all that much thought, but what do you think? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 15:02, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

This probably would not go over well (any proposals of "forcing" people to do something are usually DOA, this being a volunteer project). There has been a push to encourage users to use the "new article wizard" though, which creates drafts for them to work on.

However, on the issue of healing bitten newbies, I do believe that "User:A Nobody" can point you to a nice template he often leaves users who have had their first article deleted that instructs them how to retrieve the deleted content, how to better meet inclusion criteria, &c. –xeno^talk 15:37, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

In that case, never mind. It was just a thought based on reading a vague comment about why IPs aren't allowed to create pages any more. I can understand why it wouldn't be liked though. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 15:47, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Unrelated

I sent you an e-mail about a day or two ago, if you hadn't noticed (not sure how often you check). --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 15:20, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

I'll check. –xeno^talk 15:37, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

I've replied. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 15:47, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

E-mailed you again. I couldn't understand it at all. I'd like to, but I gave up. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 19:05, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Please do blow some oxygen into my windfarm.

hopiakuta Please do sign your communiqué .~~Thank You, DonFphrnqTaub Persina. 21:10, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Not sure I follow =] –xeno^talk 21:25, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

• < http://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=user_talk:xeno&diff=329714134&oldid=329694209 >.

hopiakuta Please do sign your communiqué .~~Thank You, DonFphrnqTaub Persina. 21:35, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

perhaps one of my talk page stalkers can look at this , fix it up to dab page guidelines and move it back to the mainspace when done? User:Hopiakuta/ pass windfarm userfy hopiakuta hopia kuta kutahopia Pass Wind Farm pass wind farm... If not I can do in a few days ... (iPhone edit) –xeno^talk 13:56, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

I have taken a look, but I am not sure if it can comply with dab page guidelines. A redirect to List of onshore wind farms looks like the more appropriate solution. Road Wizard (talk) 14:25, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Why iphone? Whyiphone?

Or, return to the original redirect,......?

Please do see my more recent dispute.

Thank You,

hopiakuta Please do sign your communiqué .~~Thank You, DonFphrnqTaub Persina. 22:20, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

I will try to take a look but my activity here has been greatly reduced. –xeno^talk 17:15, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Xeno!

Hey Xeno, I have finally returned to Wikipedia after about a year on hiatus. Since you are one of the few I remember from my old wiki editing days, I thought I'd drop a hello in here! --APShinobi ^{My Contribs} 08:23, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Hey Shinobi - welcome back! –xeno^talk 17:15, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

ListComparer in AWB

Hi. A newer snapshot is available at: http://toolserver.org/~awb/snapshots/ Please download and check if the ListComparer works better now. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:07, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Will do - thanks ! –xeno^talk 17:15, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Question regarding changes made by edits

I sometimes see net changes like this, where no red appears on either side. It seems one character less was the result. Is it just a space being removed? I sometimes see individual edits where there's no red indicator on either side, so I was curious if there's any other way to see if anything was changed. Also, nice to see you're still interacting with Hop. Those exchanges, while sometimes unreadable, can be strangely amusing. Enigma^msg 19:04, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Yep. They are indeed removing or adding spaces. Personally, I think a change to Wikipedia should be attempted so that, in edits like that, spaces are highlighted. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 19:15, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

That's weird. Apparently there's a 1 character difference but I can't for the life of me tell where it is. –xeno^talk 19:16, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

At the very end of the first paragraph on the previous revision, there was a space, which has now been removed. Obsessiveness searching, yay! --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 19:24, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Finally found what you were talking about. I clicked edit on both revisions, and found that a click of the mouse on each one revealed where the paragraph ended. One ended after the period, while the other ended a space later. Strange stuff. In any case, I only found it because it was a vandal IP and I had to check all its recent contributions. It has since received a lengthy block. Enigma^msg 20:23, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Detagging

It seems like a lot of cats got added that are not in the project. Can we send the bot to remove our tags from pages on a list of cats?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 06:11, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

sure, just provide the list. Do you want me to exclude an article from detag if it is on another chibotcat? –xeno^talk 13:48, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

The issue is these removed categories.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:48, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

1990 Plainfield tornado would be something I would watch if it were GA or better. I don't mind losing it for now. Is the bot detagging only if no other cats we care about are on the page. I.E., if one of the contested cats and one of the valid cats is on the page I hope it is leaving the talk page alone.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 00:35, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Correct, I avoided any articles that still have a CHIBOTCAT. –xeno^talk 00:41, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Weird bot addition

I wondered why the bot added a WP Chicago banner to the article talk page on Charles D. Baker, Jr., because I had read it when it became a GA and remembered nothing about Chicago. My CTRL-F4 search turned up nothing either, it seems the bot misbehaved there, or am I somehow mistaken? Hekerui (talk) 22:27, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

It's due to the article's membership in Category:Kellogg School of Management alumni... –xeno^talk 22:29, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

...though, apparently that school has a campus in Florida, so it's probably not the best category for CHI to be mass tagging. –xeno^talk 22:35, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Resolved

Your timing closing use of multiple wiki-ids was superb. Everyone had more to say, but you just slipped in like a fencing master and disarmed us all simultaneously. Nice work! - Pointillist (talk) 02:06, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but I am a fencing wizard.

Hello. My name is Thejadefalcon. You killed my article. Prepare to die... (if somebody doesn't get that reference without looking at the links, that will be inconceivable and I shall have to fight you to the pain unless you make a solemn vow to watch films that are actually funny). --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 02:22, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks...I think! =] –xeno^talk 18:49, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Odd UK politics add

Moved to User:Xenobot/R#Mistagging reports: WPUKPOL. –xeno^talk 18:39, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

WP:R changes

Please be aware that if you change the heading of "Targeted redirect," you could damage the shortcut WP:TARGET, which is used elsewhere. I somewhat reverted your change, but included some of what you added. Sebwite (talk) 17:40, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

You just created this shortcut today, so really how much is it used? (not much). This "Targeted redirect" seems to be a bit of a neologism without much penetration [8]. –xeno^talk 17:43, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

I just used it in one page today, and I plan to use it elsewhere. Sebwite (talk) 17:46, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

You're swimming upstream. We commonly call these redirects to sections. See [9], Template:R to section, Category:Redirects to sections, etc. –xeno^talk 17:47, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

There are others such as {{R to anchor}}, {{R to list entry}} (and probably some others I'm forgetting) too. --Tothwolf (talk) 17:55, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Good point. Redirects to page sections are not the only targeted redirects, so with the new subheader of anchor, I've added a super-header as "Targeted redirect" [10]. Fair compromise? –xeno^talk 17:58, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes. As we're at it, I will re-examine the shortcuts too. Sebwite (talk) 18:46, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

I didn't really have an opinion on how best to present the information, I just happened to think about those when I saw the discussion here. If you can find a place to mention it, it might also be a good idea to explain the 'R from ...' etc templates as well. In addition to categorising a redirect, they are also designed to indicate the redirect's function on the redirect page itself, but that isn't currently functional due to T16323. This came up during the {{R from other capitalisation}} discussions and few people actually knew what the 'R from ...' redirect templates were for or how they functioned. --Tothwolf (talk) 18:47, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Please restore text of deleted article to my userspace so I can improve it

Hi,

I would appreciate it if you could restore the text of the deleted English article "Moriel Matalon" to my userspace (with the Wiki code if possible), so I can work on it and improve it to meet Wikipedia guidelines and be reposted.

Thanks,

User: Ifuufi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ifuufi (talk • contribs) 08:11, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

 Done, see User:Ifuufi/Moriel Matalon. –xeno^talk 17:23, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Sinebot

Thanks, I had wondered. AKAF (talk) 08:26, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

No problem. –xeno^talk 17:23, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

IP

Xeno, you once said you'd normally block an IP who tried to change my password. Can you take a look at AIV? Tnxman isn't sure about it and I want to know your opinion. (Just that. If you don't think it's block-worthy, I won't push it). --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 18:26, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Best just to ignore it (WP:DENY). –xeno^talk 18:28, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I'm still waiting on Oversight though. I failed epically in my original report... Do you have any idea why I got this e-mail afterwards? "Your mail to 'arbcom-l' with the subject

Password

Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.

The reason it is being held:

Post by non-member to a members-only list

Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. If you would like to cancel this posting, please visit the following URL:"

Any ideas? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 18:30, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

ArbCom isn't the right body. Email to Special:Emailuser/Oversight. –xeno^talk 18:32, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

I did. That's the weird thing... --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 18:33, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Are you sure? That would mean the oversight list is being forwarded to arbcom's mailing list - which doesn't seem on... –xeno^talk 18:37, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

About ninety-nine percent sure. On Requests for oversight I pressed the link in this sentence: "If you have a Wikipedia account with email enabled(enabling email), then use this form to directly post a request." --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 18:47, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Strange. I just sent a test email thru, haven't gotten a moderation from arbcom-l yet. –xeno^talk 18:53, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

← I think I said in the e-mail that I had "cocked up." Think. Would that have anything to do with it? It's not a sweary phrase in itself, but it might have set off a filter that I wasn't aware of? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 18:55, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Nah, I doubt it. –xeno^talk 18:56, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh, great, there goes my only theory... This didn't happen last time I contacted Oversight... --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 18:57, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

I would advise clicking "Send me copies of e-mails I send to other users" in Special:Preferences. –xeno^talk 18:58, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Just did. Never needed to before but... (sighs) --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 19:03, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: FYI

Thanks, if he really won't do it then I'll probably utilize that. These back and forths are probably my least favorite thing of Wikipedia, but necessary I guess if we are to move forward and make decisions on tricky issues. I am willing to concede I'm wrong if that is what consensus decides (and I very well may be wrong), but I am unwilling to allow the discussion itself to be censored or disallowed.

The interesting thing with this whole problem is that I wouldn't be surprised if Rama's decision is actually right in the end - I don't think it is, but I might be wrong. I feel like we need a discussion for two reasons - to gain consensus and make a decision that multiple users agree on, but also so that a thorough discussion can be had for future editors running into the same problem. I've worked on a few architectural articles and there doesn't seem to be any policy nailed down yet on copyrighted images of unfinished or unstarted buildings. I think the decision made would alleviate a lot of these issues. However we can't do that unless we allow for discussion.

Anyway I digress. Thanks again. I'll wait to see if he responds to my final plea :). DR04 (talk) 18:34, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

My concern is that they may be using their own interpretation of the NFCC criteria that might not necessarily dovetail with the community's. However, I am not familiar with, nor do I care enough, about the NFCC policies to make a judgment call on that or even initiate a thread - hence my gentle push to you. –xeno^talk 18:36, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks again - with the comments being posted on the ANI page hopefully you guys can decide the best course of actions for situations like these. Hopefully when this is all said and done it will help remove some of the gray area for other editors. DR04 (talk) 20:15, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it should help to suss out the right course of action. Feel free to continue to add insight to the thread. –xeno^talk 20:21, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Legal Threat

I am being accused of censorship and advised to stop before "And it would be better than we were talking before our lawyers did so ..." The user page is [[11]] Hell In A Bucket Hell In A Bucket (talk) 18:46, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Commented there. –xeno^talk 18:50, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Catholic schools

If the person is really the IT head, he can find out which computer and which student is vandalizing. The school can discipline the particular student. Wikipedia should not do the dirty work and hurt innocent kids. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AG191D (talk • contribs) 20:50, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

template:Consent blocks are usually placed on request. Students with accounts can still edit and typically instructions are provided on how to open an account. –xeno^talk 20:53, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. Please delete my account. I made a fool of myself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AG191D (talk • contribs) 20:58, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

No, you didn't. You're making a good faith attempt to allow folks to contribute to Wikipedia which I respect and commend. –xeno^talk 20:59, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Trust me. I've made a far bigger idiot of myself than you think you did. Right, xeno? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 21:03, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

No comment =) –xeno^talk 00:18, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

See? Would he say that if I wasn't a cretin? xD --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 00:25, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia as a gift?

Hey Thanks for commenting on my idea. I have tried to make the article better. Do you know how i can speed up the proses? I just want to know what the foundation and the rest of the community thinks of this idea before christmas. --Gmdahl (talk) 00:15, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Well, with the donation drive wrapping up and Christmas really upon us, I doubt this will be something implemented this holiday season, but I think for next Christmas this would be a great way to ramp up donations. –xeno^talk 00:18, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

RfA Thanks

MrKIA11 (talk) 12:39, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Deletion templates

Please do not remove deletion templates from files. Thank you. Rama (talk) 14:41, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Please re-familiarize yourself with deletion processes and stop deleting files out of process. Your speedy tag both violates WP:CSD and is an invitation for the reviewing admin to commence a wheel war. –xeno^talk 14:44, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

By all means do re-read these yourself. This file is a copyright violation, as Fair use cannot be invoked since a Free alternative exists. If you disagree with the speedy, the proper course of action is to place a "hangon" template, as is clearly indicated. Rama (talk) 14:47, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Only by your seemingly erroneous interpretation. I would suggest we wait for the commons deletion to run its course and then take direction from there. –xeno^talk 14:49, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Policy Report

The community gave feedback on a couple of policy pages at WT:SOCK#Interview for Signpost and WT:CIVILITY#Policy Report for Signpost, and there will be another one in Monday's Signpost that we're putting together at WT:Username policy#Signpost Policy Report. I'm asking for your participation because you made an edit this month or last month at that talk page. If you have questions, feel free to ask at WT:Username policy#Signpost Policy Report or my talk page. The best guide to what the community is expecting from the surveys is to follow the links above to see what they've already done; we haven't had any complaints. Thanks for your time. - Dank (push to talk) 16:57, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Bye and Happy Christmas

Please accept my advanced Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.I will not be able to wish you on those days as I will be taking a Wiki break for one month starting tomorrow. Also wishing you a Happy editing.. :)  arun  talk  06:54, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

ListComparer in AWB

Now, it should work fine. Please confirm. Thanks, Magioladitis (talk) 09:43, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

 Works for me - good to go ! Thanks =) –xeno^talk 16:45, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

German MPs

Hi Xeno, I don't know if you can help me – you may not even remember being involved in this discussion. There seemed to be some point of view that I had requested the deletion of said articles. I don't know who proposed this (as it's simply not true), nor can I find any article/talk page archives indicating this (from me, or any other user). Another editor thought it was strange how all the stubs were created on this one day back in 2006 – simple answer: I was bored! Anyway, the topic isn't really pertinent now since the articles weren't deleted; I was just wondering what happened since I missed the whole discussion and can't seem to make sense of it anymore. I don't even know why I've left it three months to even ask this question, I was just trying to make sense of this old post on my talkpage. Regardless, I hope someone, one day, might like to expand my old stubs. Wishing you a good start to the weekend – Jared Preston (talk) 13:08, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I'd guess they were mixed up with a huge bunch of German politician stubs (and similar, like Ottfried Fischer) that were created by Dr. Blofeld (talk · contribs) who requested deletion. See this AFD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Claus Peter Poppe. Regards SoWhy 13:14, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

I see, thanks a lot! Jared Preston (talk) 13:26, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks SoWhy... So I think they're all back now, right? Everything copacetic? –xeno^talk 13:34, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Page move

Could you please move this article Transformers: The War For Cybertron to Transformers: The War for Cybertron due to capital "F"or and this article Quantum (2010 video game) to Quantum Theory (video game). Quantum Theory is an official title look at their official site. Thank you once again. --SkyWalker (talk) 11:25, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Both  Done, cheers. –xeno^talk 13:39, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. --SkyWalker (talk) 14:34, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Xeno you have forgetting to do the same for the talk page Talk:Quantum (2010 video game). --SkyWalker (talk) 06:08, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

 Done

Building consensus on copyright issue

You were involved in a discussion regarding the use of copyrighted architectural designs on Wikipedia pages and I'm trying to find community consensus on a gray area. If you can, please let me know at what point you feel these images should be replaced here. Thank you so much! DR04 (talk) 19:19, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Hey, you look smart

Here. Is there any way to make the one on the left not... so far to the left compared to the others? –Juliancolton | ^Talk 02:59, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

I always suspected you were a conservative. :-P KillerChihuahua^?!?Advice 03:16, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Its a math thing, dude. You cannot have one thing = 150%. That's one and half things. You have to have it add up to 100. See? KillerChihuahua^?!?Advice 03:25, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Aha, I see. Facepalm Thanks. :) –Juliancolton | ^Talk 03:41, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

No, is an easy mistake to make. *comforting pat on back* Just wanted to make sure you could see the issue so you could do it yourself next time. :-) KillerChihuahua^?!?Advice 03:43, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Dude... facepalm... awesome... Dude... facepalm redirects to Types of gestures, and yet, there is no entry for it... Lame... - Adolphus79 (talk) 05:41, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Facepalm listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Facepalm. Since you had some involvement with the Facepalm redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Cnilep (talk) 20:13, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

RfA thanks

Thank you for voting in my RfA, which failed with 21 support, 39 oppose, and 11 neutral. This is highly belated, but I wanted to thank you for the support in the RfA discussion. I do apologize for taking so long to reply to you, after the failure I laid back for a while. I just dove into another article and am working more diligently on WP.

Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 06:35, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Belated is a bit of an understatement! –xeno^talk 13:46, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

True Crime Histmerge

True Crime (2010) ---> True Crime (2010 video game) Histmerge. Thanks. --SkyWalker (talk) 07:32, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

 Done! Just read about this title on X3F. Looking forward to it =) –xeno^talk 13:46, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Xeno. What is X3F?. Well i think i will look forward for this title if it comes to PC. The China premise is cool. Loads of awesome titles was announced at Spike VGA. Looking forward most of them.. --SkyWalker (talk) 15:03, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

E-mail

E-mailed you. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 15:58, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Replied. Do I need to keep saying this, or is do you keep a close eye on it? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 16:14, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Well, this matter could've probably been discussed on-wiki - so perhaps just save the emails for privacy sensitive matters. But the notes are fine. –xeno^talk 16:18, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

When I thought it was the sock, I didn't want to talk about him on-wiki because then he'd get a big head. Before I read this, I sent you another. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 16:22, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough, WP:DENY is a good reason too. So I guess for emails after the first note you can assume I've logged into my WP email and am watching =) –xeno^talk 16:36, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, and thanks for the link. Sincerely, not thejadefalcon. --> --Theannoyingfalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 16:47, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Category merge?.

There is this two category Category:Upcoming games and Category:Upcoming video games. The upcoming game category is no longer used. So i guess that category should be merged with upcoming video games. Don't you think so?. --SkyWalker (talk) 05:39, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Definitely. Boldly done. –xeno^talk 20:41, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, Once again. Btw i was looking at ninja bee forums. I saw that you were entering A Kingdom for Keflings beta?. Did you get through?. Al trough i got a mail that i got selected. They have not sent me the package.. --SkyWalker (talk) 05:29, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Yep! I completed the NDA but haven't received a link to DL it yet. –xeno^talk 13:46, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Same filled out NDA. Hopefully it will be cool. I heard this game is addictive. Have you played it on X360?. --SkyWalker (talk) 15:04, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Yea, it's a very cool little game. Settlers meets SimCity but there's no "stress" in terms of fighting or worrying about taxes and the like. Yep, I played it on 360. –xeno^talk 20:46, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Possible banning

This guy has vandalised several pages (Hollywood Undead twice, System of a Down (album) twice, and now Taylor Lautner (as seen here). I think this calls for a ban. I'm not sure how to request a ban, and I'm not capable of doing it myself (since I'm no admin), so I thought that you may be able to help. You might want to review his contributions before enacting the ban. --ҚЯĀŽΨÇÉV13 00:23, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

You mean a block, not a ban. They're separate. I've asked for one now. You using Twinkle still? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 00:24, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Best place to do this is at WP:AIV as many administrators watch that page to address reports of vandalism. –xeno^talk 13:46, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Jade: Yes, I'm still using Twinkle. And xeno, I've finished that now. Thanks. --ҚЯĀŽΨÇÉV13 20:09, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Then look at the top of any user page, on the same section as the history button, etc. You'll see a button labelled ARV. Check any relevant boxes, add a comment if necessary and send away. You can also use the drop-down menu for sockpuppetry and inappropriate usernames. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 20:18, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Shouldn't we be having this conversation on your talk page? Haha. And I see that now, thanks for the heads up. --ҚЯĀŽΨÇÉV13 20:32, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

(shrugs) You asked here. Didn't see the point in forking the conversation. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 20:59, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Category merge Part 2.

Category:Xbox Live Arcade games ---> Category:Xbox 360 Live Arcade games. Majority of the titles which were in that category also available for Xbox 360. --SkyWalker (talk) 14:59, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Don't forget to prefix categories with a : when discussing them =) What about those titles that were only available for the OXB? –xeno^talk 15:01, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

This, for example, is quite inaccurate. –xeno^talk 15:04, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Hmm.. How many titles were available for Xbox?. Is this [correct]?. The link is no longer shows original Xbox.. --SkyWalker (talk) 15:08, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, that looks right. –xeno^talk 15:09, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Probably best to create Category:Original Xbox Live Arcade games and have them both as subcats of cat XBLA games. –xeno^talk 15:11, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Reverting most of my edits. Yes i will be moving them to Category:Original Xbox Live Arcade games has you requested. Will do it tomorrow. Is that ok?. --SkyWalker (talk) 15:26, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Sure, there is no deadline =) –xeno^talk 15:27, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Done. What next?. --SkyWalker (talk) 08:19, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

This is what I was thinking [12]. –xeno^talk 13:35, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

For the Pharaoh

I generally think barnstars are devalued, but I'm still laughing, so here:

		The Barnstar of Good Humour
		For this. Thanks for the laughs. :) @Kate (parlez) 21:46, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, but I was being serious. I plan to make some very abusive blocks after I shuffle off the mortal coil! ;> –xeno^talk 21:48, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

I'll probably be one of them so that I won't take my inane questions to some other poor admin. :P --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 21:51, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Merry Christmas, Xeno! At this time of year, I would like to extend seasons greetings to the Wikipedians I have interacted with in the past year on Wikipedia. I wish you a wonderful holiday season! The Arbiter★★★

And a Happy Wintereenmas to you too! –xeno^talk 13:30, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

You are fast

User:Hobbiticus/VoiceChatter <- I edit conflicted deleting this page for the same reason you did. I thought I was on top of things, but you are fast. Chillum ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 15:29, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

I'll admit I am a somewhat obsessive watchlist refresher... =) –xeno^talk 15:31, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

I see you beat me to putting a bandaid on the WP:BITE, though =0 –xeno^talk 15:38, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Wise folk will disagree...
And also other times will agree...
Consensus guides us - Replied.

Chillum ^{(Need help? Ask me)} 21:09, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

The Guinea pig strikes back

[13] --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:55, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

I was trying to keep it succinct =) –xeno^talk 20:57, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

I didn't make it too much longer. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:58, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

—Preceding unsigned comment was part of a longer comment by Example (talk • contribs), signed below at 00:00, 1 December 2009 (UTC), which was split by a later edit.

I am out of breath after reading it now =) It's also got text after the timestamp which is kinda peculiar. –xeno^talk 21:03, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

It's possible that, just this once, I was not perfect. I'll try to think of an even better wording, you do the same? But the original wording kind of made it sound like User:Example was the one who split the comment. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:07, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Let me see what I can work up. –xeno^talk 21:09, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

The current wording addressed my main concern. If I ever think of something more elegant, I'll be bold. Cheers. --Floquenbeam (talk) 21:48, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Cool. Now I need to pimp the template out... –xeno^talk 21:49, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

AND OMG thank you for that edit summary. Yesterday, I was racking my brain trying to figure out what the term was. I thought it was "not bad for college work" but it's GOVERNMENT work. Thanks! –xeno^talk 21:52, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

I find myself frequently being useful doing things I don't think are useful at the time. The things I do that I think are useful end up on the cutting room floor. --Floquenbeam (talk) 22:00, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Your question

Moved it to: Wikipedia_talk:Article_Incubator#What.27s_that_template_called.3F WP:REFUND maybe? I like the idea, but you will have to ask benjobi about the idea, we have different views on a lot of things.Ikip (talk) 21:53, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

thanks for closing that ANI. I remember we had a few words back and forth at one time...interesting how your view of an editor evolves and changes. Take for example, Cool Hand Luke, we tussled a bit, but now I have one of his quotes prominently on my talk page. A recent discussion brought editors I usually don't agree with at all into supporting the position I supported. I just think this shows that sometimes we forget to focus on what we have in common instead of what we don't. Ikip (talk) 23:02, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Sure, I always try to close ANI threads neutrally & dispassionately. And yes, I've also gotten that strange feeling when you find yourself on the same side of an argument with someone you've had heated disagreements in the past. –xeno^talk 23:04, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for protecting those pages. Cheer. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:51, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

No prob. I'll try to keep an eye after they lapse and re-apply as necessary. –xeno^talk 16:52, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

lol

I don't know anymore. I thought he had removed that bit, and my anon clobber killed it...so I re-removed it. Syrthiss (talk) 18:39, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Yea, I got confused too. Think it's copacetic now. –xeno^talk 18:40, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Moving exoplanets

Please don't start moving exoplanets around without (extensive) general discussion about their naming scheme. The space is used by some and authors and not others (this applies to the space between the catalog designation and the catalog number as well, so you have GJ1214b, G J1214b, GJ 1214b, and GJ 1214 b, all in use). The generally used scheme includes a space, and that's the one adopted here, so far. Some journals, because of other typographic or historical conventions, exclude it, but they're the exception. — Aldaron • T/C 20:44, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

I saw your move log summary and figured you know best. Thanks for the additional note. –xeno^talk 20:46, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

NP. It's confusing and in flux. But all the places that aggregate exoplanet lists and catalog use spaces, so Wikipedia should probably follow them (even when the occasional publication does otherwise). The redirect is important though, so thanks for adding that. Cheers! — Aldaron • T/C 20:52, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation =) –xeno^talk 20:54, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Stubs

Note: I am restarting the part of the task that is skipping stubs altogether while I have a think about this one. Rich Farmbrough 22:15 16 December 2009 (UTC).

You may care to glance a the article in question, although it could be argued that it is irrelevant. Rich Farmbrough, 22:26, 16 December 2009 (UTC).

Will do. –xeno^talk 13:29, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Detagging exception

I forgot to say that for the removed categories articles within Chicago metropolitan area are claimed by WP:CHICAGO if they are WP:GA, WP:FA, and WP:FL. Is it possible to tag with WP:CHIBOTCATS for all articles and for GA, FA and FL for the recently removed categories.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 13:46, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Sure, I will get to this after User:Xenobot/R#WP:PENNSYLVANIA. –xeno^talk 13:49, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Haven't you already bots denied such articles in the last run though?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 14:42, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

No, I figured that since the erroneous cats were removed from CHIBOTCATS, it wouldn't be necessary. Either way, I can tell Xenobot to disobey the bots statement. –xeno^talk 14:43, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

There were only three and you found them all (Fabyan Windmill, Indian Creek massacre, Northern Illinois University shooting). Cheers, –xeno^talk 15:49, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: Check your spam filter

Hmmm?. What key, which key.? --SkyWalker (talk) 04:43, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh i got it now. I was looking at Wikipedia spam filter and was wondering what key. I understood now. I went to my gmail account after looking at tons of spams i found it. It was send me on December 11. Blah i though it would have gone to the inbox. Being waiting for so many days :(. Stupid spam... --SkyWalker (talk) 09:41, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Glad you found it -enjoy. –xeno^talk 13:29, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Iam enjoying it. Pretty cool game. Have not found any bugs so far. Though it needs some features like mouse rotating and stuff. --SkyWalker (talk) 13:45, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Be sure to leave feedback at the forums... –xeno^talk 13:48, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

I certainly did. Btw do you have steam id?. Just wanna add you has friend list?. If that is that ok with you?.--SkyWalker (talk) 13:50, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

No, I think that is an imposter on Steam. –xeno^talk 19:06, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Commons deletion

Your opinion on a nomination for deletion would be appreciated here, thanks, DR04 (talk) 19:00, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Types of gestures

An article that you have been involved in editing, Types of gestures, has been proposed for a merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going to the article and clicking on the (Discuss) link at the top of the article, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Cnilep (talk) 19:42, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

re: Pennsylvania tagging

Ahh, Blargh must've got bored of waiting around for me to get this task done (he made a request here quite a while ago) :). I'm fairly busy atm, so please feel free to do this task yourself, although I should warn you that there is something like 24k articles to run through. In case you want it, I've made a list of the pages which KingpinBot hasn't yet done here ^{[large page]}. If you save it as a text file, AWB should be able to load from there if you want.
As for the auto stub and inherit, I've used auto stub before, but didn't for this task (there was a reason at the time ;)). Also, I've seen you talking about inherit before, and it sounds like a fairly good idea. If you can explain how to use it, I'd be happy to :). - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 15:42, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

It's actually a pretty simple find/replace matrix when it comes down to it. Shoot me an email and I'll send you the .XML - you'll just need to do a find/replace in notepad to replace the project template with whatever task you're running. I'll pick up the torch for PEN if you're busy. –xeno^talk 15:47, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Gestures

Still seeking consensus on Talk:Types_of_gestures#Proposed_merge. Thanks. --Anna Frodesiak (talk) 16:15, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Tagging of Philadelphia-related pages

I see that your bot is tagging Philadelphia-related articles with WikiProject Pennsylvania tags. From what I've noticed, WikiProject Philadelphia tags, already have WP:Penn parameters in them. ----DanTD (talk) 15:20, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Hm, thanks for the note. I do see that the Phil. tags have a note that it is 'also supported' by WP Pennsylvania. I'll have to ask the sponsor if they want me to avoid those tagged with Phil. already. –xeno^talk 15:24, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Well, that's something I hadn't seen before. I guess if it's already covered by the WP:PENNA through WP:PHILLY, then there's no reason to double-tag it. I double checked to make sure this wasn't happening with WP:PITTSBURGH, WP:ERIE, WP:STEELERS, WP:LEHIGH, but those templates don't double tag. Thanks!--Blargh29 (talk) 15:36, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

By the way, I made a comment at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Philadelphia#Template_double_tagging about this. Thought you might want to comment.--Blargh29 (talk) 15:41, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

After a quick concurrence from the Philadelphia project, I went ahead and removed the automatic Pennsylvania tags from the WP:PHILLY template. So, can we continue to tag Pennsylvania articles, irrespective of whether they are tagged with WP:PHILLY?--Blargh29 (talk) 16:03, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

It's your call. The bot is on a short break right now (unrelated), it should start up again sometime later today. –xeno^talk 16:05, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, let's just keep going with the categories on the list. By the way, I've been doing spot checks on the bot, and everything seems to be running smoothly. I just found the one category that shouldn't have been there (Category:Delaware Valley), but I will remove those tags manually. Thanks again for doing this! It's pretty awesome.--Blargh29 (talk) 16:08, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Sounds good. Thanks =) –xeno^talk 16:09, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Eh?

What does this edit summary mean? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 01:11, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

the comment, at the 23rd hour ( just before misza would've taken away the thread ) added little and would have kept a sizable dead thread on ANI for another 24... –xeno^talk 01:25, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

So... removing the "(UTC)" tricked MiszaBot into archiving it? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 17:54, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

yep... Misza only recognizes standard timestamps... –xeno^talk 19:07, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Useful to know. --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 19:49, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Happy Holidays from Phantomsteve!

File:Christmas collage.PNG

Happy holidays to you, Xeno - hope you have an enjoyable, relaxing time!
-- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 16:51, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

MfD Top

MfD top makes the rationale into code-style now. Was that your intention? It looks kind of ugly, IMO. Gigs (talk) 01:08, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

nope - thanks for letting me know. –xeno^talk 18:48, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

XenoBot request

I wonder if you could use your bot to notify all interested parties who have participated in past discussions (1,2) about this. You had also participated, and are invited to comment as well. If you don't want to do this as a bot job, then let me know and I'll do them manually. Gigs (talk) 15:06, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

There's only 11 people that haven't yet commented there. (see below) If you provide a suitable neutrally worded notification I suppose I could do it with a bot, but it would be just as fast to do it with tabbed browsing. –xeno^talk 00:22, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

User talk:213.122.7.102
User talk:Angr
User talk:Baseball Bugs
User talk:Bus stop
User talk:Conti
User talk:Decltype
User talk:JackofOz
User talk:Shakescene
User talk:Shantavira
User talk:Shirulashem
User talk:TammyMoet

I guess you are right. Thought it was more. I'll do it by hand, thanks. Gigs (talk) 03:50, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Non-traditional Request

Hey, I just put in a request for Xenobot to tag pages for Pennsylvania politicians. I just created 400+ such articles, so tagging them manually would be pretty tedious. I'm wondering if it would be possible to tag them for WP:PENNA, as well as WP:BIOG, with the politics & government workgroup parameter. Is this possible? Thanks!--Blargh29 (talk) 00:11, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Sure, can you point me to a list? –xeno^talk 00:24, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

User:Blargh29/Subcats of Category:Pennsylvania politicians. I put in a request at User talk:Xenobot Mk V/requests, too. You're the best!--Blargh29 (talk) 04:15, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

No problem. –xeno^talk 18:03, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Fair-use images of buildings

Hi Xeno. Hopefully you'll recall the discusson a couple of weeks ago about Rama's deletion of fair use images, and my offer to scrutinize the images affected. You might be interested in the progress I made... see User talk:Astronaut#Progress. Any further guidance or advice would be appreciated. Thanks. Astronaut (talk) 19:33, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for working on this. I'll try to take a closer look after the holidays. –xeno^talk 18:03, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!!

Merry Christmas!

Once again it is festive season, a time where festive decorations are displayed and gifts are swapped; but what about the true meaning of christmas? The true meaning of christmas is about the fight for freedom and how in times of hardship and misery, one person leads their people to freedom as a great warrior; for those who fight for a cause are warriors and those who fight for a worthy cause are great warriors. Such an act earns respect and honour; but most importantly, brings happiness to their people. So to achieve this as happiness lies in other people's happiness and greatness lies in how you deal with little people, we selflessly think of others in the hope that they will be happy this christmas.

Hi Xeno, have a very Merry Christmas and A Happy New Year 2010!
 Set Sail For The Seven Seas 

  Set Sail For The Seven Seas  29° 2' 15" NET   01:56, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Membership notice

Your friends over at WP:VG have a quick request for you. Could you have your bot send out the following notice to all the users listed here.

Dear {{BASEPAGENAME}},

You are receiving this message because either <tt>[[[[:Category:WikiProject Video games members]]]]</tt> or {{tlx|User WPVG}} is somewhere in your [[WP:UP|userspace]], and you are currently listed in the "Unknown" section on the project's [[WP:VG/MEM|member list]].

The member list is meant to provide a clearer picture of active membership. It is recommended that you update your status if you plan to regularly:
* Edit video game-related pages in the [[WP:NS0|Article namespace]]
* Participate in video game-related discussions in the [[WP:NS4|Project namespace]] ([[WT:VG]], [[WP:AfD]], [[WP:GAN]], etc.)

Members listed in the "Unknown" section will be removed from the membership list and category at the end of January 2010. You may re-add yourself to the active list at any time. Thank you for your help, and we look forward to working with you.

Sincerely, the [[WP:VG|Video Games WikiProject]] ~~~~~

There is also a thread on the talk page if you wanted to check it out for some reason. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks, MrKIA11 (talk) 15:51, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Well no one seems to mind, so if you could do this when you get a chance, that would be great. Thanks, MrKIA11 (talk) 16:30, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Let's hold this for Jan 2nd after x-mas. I think I'll also keep anyone whose talk page has not been edited since the last time Xenobot sent a similar note. –xeno^talk 18:03, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

168 talk pages have not changed since the last time Xenobot visited and told them they were at risk of being removed - so I will not notify these editors as the message would be quite redundant. –xeno^talk 21:29, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

This is  Done, cheers. –xeno^talk 22:10, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Your help is appreciated as always. MrKIA11 (talk) 22:34, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

closing admin

Would you be the closing admin if my request for the editfilter permission lasts without objection? Btilm_{Happy Holidays!} 20:46, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

There's been blowback from the last 2 EFM rights I handed out (not counting the one I put on my alternate account), so I think I'll leave this one for someone else out of concern that I may be too liberal in this regard. –xeno^talk 15:44, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

User:MastCell/Censorship

Thanks for moving that page out of template-space. I didn't create it, so I hadn't realized it was in template-space. It does belong in my userspace. :) MastCell ^Talk 20:18, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

No problem! I did pause for a moment seeing that you added move=sysop, but then I decided to just rouge out and do it anyway. ;> –xeno^talk 20:24, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

I did that 'cause I thought it was in my userspace - I usually move-protect the stuff there, to keep from being Grawped. Probably should have been a bit more careful with that one. Thanks. MastCell ^Talk 20:44, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Likewise - no worries - cheers. –xeno^talk 20:51, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Null edits?

Hey, I saw your post over at Talk:Barack Obama assassination threats about the need for null editing to identify the source of merged material. I'm honestly not sure what null editing means, but if it's helpful, all of the material came from the Denver/Tennessee sections came from 2008 Barack Obama assassination scare in Denver and 2008 Barack Obama assassination scare in Tennessee, of which I'm the primary author. The Hawaii section came largely from some of the sources listed at the old 2009 Obama assassination plot in Hawaii, although the text itself didn't. Part of the Gesiel and Blanchard sections came from 2008 Barack Obama assassination scare in Denver, although some of it came from new sources. Is this helpful at all? — Hunter Kahn _(c) 17:03, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Definitely, and noted in the history. Null edits (dummy edits actually is the more accurate term as null editing doesn't cause an edit summary) are described here: help:Dummy edit. Nice job on the article, btw. –xeno^talk 17:11, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

• Thanks! — Hunter Kahn _(c) 17:44, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

BlazerKnight

You do realise that he hasn't been all that active recently, don't you? --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 18:27, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Yea, I noticed... But even absent the inactivity, I was going to suggest he start using my talk page directly; his questions were getting more complicated and would benefit from the input of my army of stalkers. –xeno^talk 18:29, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

I stalked that page too though! :P --Thejadefalcon^{Sing your song}_{The bird's seeds} 19:05, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Clearly =) –xeno^talk 19:09, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Making proposals

In that case, please blank it out (remove it). If you just blanked it out, I would think that is disruptive but you seem to be moving it to a logical place, not moving it to the basement or unused closet. Since that is constructive, I will also take you opinion that it will not be well received and ask that you just blank it out. AG191D (talk) 18:39, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I've done so. The reason it will not be well-received is because Wikipedia is a volunteer project. Any "requiring" of editors to do something is a non-starter. –xeno^talk 18:44, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

I kinda thought it would be a fun/interesting discussion. I especially liked the prison metaphor and was waiting to see what clever comments people would come up with in response. While the proposal in its original form had no real chance, the counter-proposals would've been interesting; like since AfD was the primary complaint, maybe users should be required to attempt fixing an article prior to bringing it to AfD; or that in order to nominate an article for deletion, you're required to have fixed a certain number of articles in the past. It's up to you, but for the future (both of you), just because a proposal in its original form has no shot doesn't mean it wouldn't sprout a valuable discussion, and even evolve into something more practical. Equazcion ^(talk) 18:56, 30 Dec 2009 (UTC)

I don't have anything against the proposal being made at one of the pumps, it's not suitable for WP:AN. On a related note, AG191D (talk · contribs) has just been blocked as a sock. –xeno^talk 18:59, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I just noticed the block. Oh well. And yes, agreed that it wasn't suitable for AN. Equazcion ^(talk) 19:00, 30 Dec 2009 (UTC)

Good call ...

... on User:Secret deletion etc. I had seen the cousin's message and emailed Alison (before the AN thread was started) to check if the account had been compromised, or if the message was genuine. But your approach was clearly quicker, and worth emulating. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 19:40, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Better safe than sorry, I'd say. Thanks for the note =) –xeno^talk 19:41, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you

File:Curious cat barnstar medal.png		The Curious Cat Barnstar Medal
		To All and Singular that shall hear and see these Presents, Xanderliptak sends Greetings! Whereas Xeno has exhibited a great and curious care in resolving a dispute between my self and an unnamed administrator that has taken up the better part of a week, a dispute that nearly compelled the said Xanderliptak to cease contributing to Wikipedia for e'er, and is recognized for as much for these contributions and is to be duly decorated for her actions. Know ye therefore that I do hereby award to Xeno the Curious Cat Barnstar Medal. In testimony whereof I have affixed to these Presents my sign and date. [tk] XANDERLIPTAK 20:06, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

<smiles> perhaps the lengthiest barnstar I've received! Thanks =) - and I'm glad you've reconsidered your position on your continued volunteership on Wikimedia projects. Do feel free to let me know if I can be of any further assistance. –xeno^talk 20:15, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Protection at Mike Leach (coach)

Thanks for the protection of Mike Leach (coach). I was having trouble track of all the WP:BLP violations! --Shirik (Questions or Comments?) 20:41, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

No problem. These emerging events are BLP nightmares. Thank you for your efforts. –xeno^talk 20:42, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Rich Farmborough's edit count

Seriously Xeno, I can't believe you've made that an ANI issue. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 19:44, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

I've already replied there, and you appear to have misread the issue. –xeno^talk 19:47, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Mmm, well that was the impression I got from your post....Something about the way you started it and worded it saying things like "rocketed themsevles to the number one edit count spot". It looked to me as if this was your primary concern as if to say "He is cheating"... Sorry if I got the wrong impression.. Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 19:58, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

It was more to highlight the dramatic and exponential increase in editing rate over the last 8 months, but I see how it could have been interpreted that way. Mea culpa, no worries. –xeno^talk 19:59, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I've noticed too. I believe last year I passed him in edit count. He didn't edit much for a while and then suddenly began using AWB and the rate has seemingly grown exponentially so he now has over twice my edit count.. I'm not too concerned unless he consistently makes errors and causes a big nuisance (and like BetaCommand refused to accept or change his errors). I don't think we have to worry about Rich in this respect, but if he is making a huge number of edits per minute so it potentially affects recent change monitoring of other articles and detection of vandalism then it is an issue. If this was your primary concern other than his edit count I understand and apologise to you for assuming differently. Happy new year! Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 20:13, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Yea, the lack of a bot flag is the primary concern next to the lack of BAG oversight. Happy new year to you as well =) –xeno^talk 02:06, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

KingpinBot

Hey xeno. Thanks for the message at User talk:KingpinBot. It's something I've been wondering if there is a way to do. However, could you give me more specific instructions on how to add this? I'm not particularly AWB savvy :). Thanks - Kingpin¹³ (talk) 21:26, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

You would've just had to cut and paste it into an existing .xml. I've just sent you Penn.xml that has both this and the inheritance matrix I had promised you 2 weeks ago. Feel free to test it out on some of the Penn articles that are in that list. –xeno^talk 02:05, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

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