Talk:Security incidents involving Barack Obama

Article title

This article was started as a result of discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2009 Obama assassination plot in Hawaii, and based on suggestions by users like JB50000 (talk · contribs), Nthep (talk · contribs), myself and several others. I went with the title "assassination threats" rather than "assassination scares" because I think there is a threat at the heart of each of these instances, even the ones involving crackpots with little chance of pulling off an assassination. I'm open to other suggestions for the title, however, and don't mind changing it if we developed a consensus... — Hunter Kahn _(c) 03:52, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

Attribution

If any of the content (prose, references, etc.) of this article was merged from other articles, there should probably be some null editing done to the article to identify the source. See also {{Merged-from}} for this page. –xeno^talk 16:57, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

• Further to [1], this should probably suffice. –xeno^talk 17:09, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

This article should be deleted.

There are no other President's with an "death threats" article of their own. Every other article discusses only attempts, why is this any different? It's as if this article was created in lieu of any real attempts on the President's life. A wikipedia death threat gossip article. It's ridiculous.Napkin65 (talk) 23:15, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

It is a bit silly. But there seem to be plenty of reliable sources, so it will stay. Tisane (talk) 00:48, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

• In addition to the reliable secondary sources, this article was the result of a consensus discussion. See "Article title" above. Further, just because no other president has an article of this type doesn't make a difference, as per WP:OTHERSTUFFDOESNTEXIST. I'd also argue that such pages could be made for any other president who has faced multiple threats, assuming reliable sources could be produced for them. — Hunter Kahn 02:30, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

• That would be every President, at least since Woodrow Wilson, who was in office when the laws against threatening the President were enacted, and such cases began to be documented in case law. Tisane (talk) 03:27, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
  • I agree. And if somebody cared to assemble all that information and write a good Woodrow Wilson assassination threats or Warren G. Harding assassination threats or whatever, I'd love to read them! — Hunter Kahn 05:17, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

• • Wikiquote:Threatening the President of the United States might provide some good leads. Tisane (talk) 20:11, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Alright, so this wikigossip page shall remain then. Every President since there was ever a President has been threatened multiple times, of that you can be sure. So why not merge this tabloid fluff piece with the larger "threatening the President" or another such article. The existence of this article in its current form seems like its meant to paint Barrack Obama as the victim, a victimization the likes of which no other President has had to endure. Napkin65 (talk) 13:17, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

There always ends up being systemic bias on Wikipedia due to what editors choose to, or choose not to, spend their time writing articles about. By the way, threats against government officials of the United States in general have been rising in recent years, so it stands to reason that the present administration is getting a lot of threats; why would Obama be exempt from the overall trend? I'm not sure what the reason for the increase in threats is. Maybe people are tired of tyranny and realize democratic channels aren't getting them anywhere. Tisane ^talk/_stalk 19:44, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Close to every source used, is anecdotal accounts of white supremacists threatening the President. Indeed different editors can choose to write about different things, but that is not to say that their choices are always proper. The "increase" in threats is entirely relative to how much is being reported. Where is the Bush threat page? I could see making mention of it on an article about threats to government officials, but this article is unwarranted. Let me ask you, why would Obama be exempt from the overall trend? This article sets his threats aside, as if he is the first US political leader to be threatened. Its such blatant a NPOV violation I can't even begin to understand how people don't see a problem with this.Napkin65 (talk) 19:52, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Feel free to suggest a merge or fix it yourself if you wish. Tisane ^talk/_stalk 03:55, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

• Additionally, as I previously said, if someone were to take it upon themselves to start a Bush threat page, I think that would be great. — Hunter Kahn 19:57, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

This entire article is ridiculous. Thismightbezach (talk) 00:34, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Going Armed to the Terror of the Public

...seems to be limited to North Carolina, but what a concept! Is there anything about anything like it anywhere on Wikipedia? --Pawyilee (talk) 11:55, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Have you tried a Google search? That is the only way anyone would know, and you can search it as well as I can. You are not reaching an editorial office by placing questions on this talkpage. YOU are the editor, just as I am. Rags (talk) 15:55, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Page moved

I've moved this page to the simple title 'Assassination threats against Barack Obama'. The previous page move was done by the sockpuppet of a banned user, whose edits have been reverted. Robofish (talk) 16:52, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Good to see the page survived assassination attempts! :)

As to potential threats to the President Of The United States, this is a very real phenomenon, about which relevant agencies must be constantly vigilant. The behind-the-scenes efforts far exceeds that which we the public come to know of, and that is as it should be. Obama in particular has assassination risks which are unique to him. And any potential assassin is likely to come from an unexpected, homegrown direction, triggered by certain phenomena, especially as the election heats up. But I'm sure the relevant agencies are mindful of this and alert to the possibilities and signs. Wotnow (talk) 18:33, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

As Obama is incumbent currently, it is noteworthy. As Obama is also the first black president, indeed, mulatto, it is noteworthy due to the alive and well white supremacist element in the US today. Add in the current election and its rhetoric, it's most certainly noteworthy for historic reasons mentioned above.Wzrd1 (talk) 04:29, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Ricin Letter

I'm unsure if there is a reason but it appears that ricin poisoning attempts are not included in the category of 'assassination' by the media nor by this community. Curious if this is intention or if this should be added. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22190031 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.223.7.254 (talk) 20:43, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

Explanation of reversion

I've now twice had to revert a new section because a complete lack of references. WP:BLPSOURCES insists on inline citations for biographically controversial information (in this case, the section discusses and names someone arrested). It is not sufficient to simply refer to the main article on the topic. If the section is reintroduced without sourcing again, I will be requesting assistance at WP:BLP/N. -- Scjessey (talk) 11:48, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Move objection

The move from "threats" to "attempts" makes no sense to me. We have some guy yelling "kill him" at a campaign event, which is a threat, but nobody would ever call it an "attempt" in a million years. This is definitely a move that should've been discussed first. -- Scjessey (talk) 16:45, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Move?

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Assassination attempts on Barack Obama → Assassination threats against Barack Obama –

• Reversing recent move which people have queried. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 16:05, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
• Support A few of these might accurately be called attempts, but "threats" is a better fit overall. --BDD (talk) 16:36, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
• Support - Seems like an obvious fix. Current title narrows the scope of the article, old one was better. -- Scjessey (talk) 22:08, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

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Florida State House candidate's comments

A Florida State House candidate called for Obama to be hanged [2] and got a visit from the Secret Service for his trouble. [3] Does this count as a "threat" enough to be included here? Not sure of the criteria. 331dot (talk) 11:50, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

I'm not really sure. He didn't directly threaten the POTUS, he espoused the preference for summary execution. He also didn't get history correct, as Benedict Arnold wasn't executed, by died of dropsy, what we'd call congestive heart failure today. He also got the penalty for treason wrong, treason is not a capital crime in the US, it's mandatory life in prison. The US also does not hang convicts, if it is a capital crime, lethal injection is used. For that matter, I'm uncertain how such comments could be considered worthy to his campaign bid, as he was running for a state office, not a federal one.Wzrd1 (talk) 13:20, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments and valid points; I just didn't want this to be ignored if it was notable enough. 331dot (talk) 22:56, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Trial and sentencing updates

I just did a rather lengthy update of various sections with their outcomes such as convictions, sentences, or current standing for cases pending, if for no other reason than to give each instance some closure. By the way, most seemed to result in prison time along with a lengthy mental health evaluation for some. --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 01:22, 7 March 2014 (UTC)

Section 6.1, Crawforf got prison time. Feight is still pending? Does anyone know? Rags (talk) 16:15, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

2011 White House shooting

Given the re-emergence of the story in the media the past few days, I created a separate article for the 2011 White House shooting. It needs to be expanded, but there is plenty of converge, but from 2011 and 2014. Recent articles have been added to the talk page. ----Another Believer _(Talk) 01:38, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Update: The article has since been promoted to GA status. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 03:41, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

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Hello, I removed an addition by a user that was not signed in, that repeated that Obama was seen as an "anti-Christ to some." It was mentioned in the article at least once already. Thanks Ral 33 02:47, 1 June 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ral 33 (talk • contribs)

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