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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Narendra Modi. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. nancy (talk)17:53, 9 December 2007 (UTC)Reply
I read your caution on my Edit War and appreciate it. Thanks.
However, the current biography of Narendra Modi is totally mis-representing a large understanding of the person accompanied with facts. I am trying to quote the facts but am continuously getting blocked out. The past discussions have not resulted in any benefits.
Hoping to learn.
Recordfreenow
Hi there, I was going to suggest to you that you should open a discussion on the Narendra Modi article's talk page but I see that you have just done that very thing. Articles about living people have to be edited with extreme caution so as to avoid defamation, there is an official policy about it called Biographies of living persons which it might be useful for you to read - the bottom line however is that any poorly sourced, unverifiable or controversial material will be removed immediately. Good luck with your editing, kind regards, nancy (talk)18:28, 9 December 2007 (UTC)Reply
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Its pretty much dissected actually. See a copy of the link and then read the comments side by side. You can match it up easily there. Shows why and which are not good. Lihaas (talk) 20:21, 4 September 2008 (UTC)Reply
The issue is about Dalit-dom. The priests and the missionaries are all about money; but the killers and the killed might be more benefited if their Dalit-hood is confirmed by law.
What is Dalit-hood? How does it compare and exist in Christianity? How have the 'forward' Christians been manipulating things?
The Sonia factor is behind the puffed up valour of the Mallu priests. That she is as communal as the next person is evident; but minus the philosophy/other-worldly background of an Indian.
I suggest your cutting down on the sob-stories; and providing more of the real background. The WHY of the issue is pertinent.
Hi, please leave me out of this. I opened the mediation case so that all of you could calm down and work out your differences in a civilized manner. I am not commenting on the case, I am not involved with the case. Thanks. Prince of Canada t | c07:12, 20 September 2008 (UTC)Reply
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I will try to provide third opinion in the article Orissa communal violence. But an important note that it will be good if you clarify in the image description page of Image:Girl sufferedwithburnwounds.jpg that the girl is Christian. Also the image description page says author is All India Christian council. Is the photo posted in AICC website? Or is it taken by AICC member without posting it in the AICC website? Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 06:33, 5 September 2008 (UTC)Reply
The source of the image verifies the identity. Whether she is a christian can also be varified by a third party resource. See Reuters enclosure of images. [Reuters story in pictures]. It verifies the community background. I have not taken the image from Reuters as hat would be copyright violation. Rather it is from a release by AICC. Thanks for discussion. Someone has put it in for speedy deletion. Yes it is available on the AICC website for usage. See [AICC page] Please advise. Recordfreenow (talk) 07:54, 5 September 2008 (UTC) Also, I can directly get it from AICC as well. If needed. Please advise.Reply
Well done. One thing I will tell you to mention in the image description page here that 1) the girl is Christian and 2) the attack was carried out by Hindu nationalists. I am telling this so that pro-Hindutva POV pushers cannot challenge the validity of the image in future. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 10:57, 6 September 2008 (UTC)Reply
Thnx for thnx on the above, mine was one of those simple looking corrections that balloons into re-write etc. What I wondered, not being too familiar with the subject, is how good the sources are, beyond obvious ones like ToI & Hindu. Some of the 'police sources' stuff did seem a bit, well, speculative.--Bsnowball (talk) 12:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)Reply
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Since you are an active editor in this article, you are right adding your name in Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2008-09-18 Orissa religious violence. Discussions sometimes get heated. I do understand dealing with continuous POV pushing is sometimes quite annoying. But I will advice you to stay cool. In any case of incivility from your opponents will go against them, but if you don't stay cool, it may turn against you even if you are innocent regarding POV issue. The article has some unreferenced claims which should be sourced and the NPOV should be resolved through the case opened. I agree the article has severe POV problem; for example I smell POV pushing in this edit where the attribution for Human Rights Watch was changed from US-based international NGO to US-based outfit. I believe "international NGO" is appropriate attribution for HRW rather than "outfit". If the issue is not resolved through mediation, you can request a comment for this article. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 13:13, 21 September 2008 (UTC)Reply
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I am not declining your request to make the edit. I am declining my making of the said edit. A request for comment is way too far here. I suggest you use the {{editprotected}} template, to get a second opinion from another admin. Please try this before you take the rather extreme step of a RfC. —Anonymous DissidentTalk11:12, 28 September 2008 (UTC)Reply
There is a question of garnering donations from America and Europe with sob stories of anti-Christian violence, involved in the large number of articles being posted on anti-Christian violence in India, with seperate articles for each every incident for whatever reason on anyone bearing a seemingly Christian name. This is good for India also because it brings in foreign direct investment. I have therefore, decided not to induce any more NPOV in this and similar articles because they are only belly-filling articles; and as such deserve sympathy.
Jobxavier (talk) 09:15, 11 October 2008 (UTC)Reply
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You can try WP:AC if the RfC does not solve. You alone can open a case, but I believe AC is too much in the current situation. You can use {{editprotected}} in the talk page of the article to get opinion of another admin as Anonymous Dissident suggested above and I believe it is the best option. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 06:39, 29 September 2008 (UTC)Reply
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"On the same day in Kanjemandi a Hindu mob found a a Catholic priest, Father Thomas Chellantharayil and a nun hiding in a house from the mob. The mob attempted to force the priest to participate as they raped the nun [44]; at his refusal, he was assaulted and covered in kerosene. The nun said she was dragged by the hair by men from a Hindu household where she was hiding. “...Two men were holding my hand, one raped me,” she told CNN-IBN from an ‘undisclosed location.’ She demanded justice not only for herself “but for the sake of the people I was working with.” The nun appealed to the State government to ensure protection to the people of Kandhamal and said the situation had been bad for far too long"
I did not make that edit. I do believe that the above edit maybe a little too illustrative and as such reduced. However, I do not see the relationship between your edit on medical report and the content above. Recordfreenow (talk) 05:31, 9 October 2008 (UTC)Reply
A false rape report submitted as an afterthought of the medical report has nothing to do with the findings of the medical examination? Jobxavier (talk) 09:20, 11 October 2008 (UTC)Reply
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The NCM was cited in the "reactions" section. The section I deleted was unsourced and contained bad prose. The article does not need a whole section on the reactions of the NCM, since the NCM is merely an agency affiliated with the Indian government.Pectoretalk18:02, 11 October 2008 (UTC)Reply
I'm interested in portraying controversies on Wikipedia the way they are perceived in the real world. Dayal is an extremely controversial figure, and if you have talked to any of the substantial number of Indians who espouse Hindu nationalism, you would instantly see what I am talking about. That's why I'm interested in finding legitimate criticism of Dayal, since there are editors like you that display his works and such. I believe you and I are both working for the pedia in this instance, albeit from different directions.Pectoretalk05:42, 19 December 2008 (UTC)Reply
WikiProject India Newsletter, Volume IV, Issue 1 – June 2009
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WP:IND Newsletter is back! It's been nearly a year since the last edition, but we hope to bring out issues on a more regular basis now. The India Wikiproject was set up to increasing coverage of India-related topics on Wikipedia, and over the past few months the focus has been on improving article quality. A number of the project's featured articles underwent featured article reviews over the past year. Of these, Darjeeling and Flag of India survived the review process, while the rest were demoted. During the same period, Gangtok, Harbhajan Singh, Darjeeling and Mysore were featured on the main page respectively on August 20, September 17, November 6 and December 29, 2009. Meanwhile, articles on topics as diverse as Political history of Mysore and Coorg (1565–1760), Marwari horse and Iravan were promoted as featured articles, and respectively appeared on the main page on March 25, May 17 and May 28, 2010. Consequently, the number of FA-class articles under the project's scope dropped from 67 in August 2009 to 63 in June 2010. The number of good articles, however, saw a more than 40% increase, from 91 to 130 during the same period, while the number of featured lists saw a 33% increase from 12 to 16.
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After a missed issue, the WP:IND newsletter is back on track to being a regular bimonthly feature. The Indian WikiProject has seen plenty of online and off-line action, both in English as well as other Indian languages, and we now have a bigger, better format that intends to feature content and news from the English as well as other Indian language Wikipedias.
Reaching out to Indians has been the theme of the Indian Wikiproject over the past couple of months, aiming to involve a greater number of Indians in editing both the English and Indian language Wikipedias. To this end, efforts to set up the Indian chapter of Wikimedia have moved into their final stages, and registration of the society is currently pending. An effort is underway to push for "WikiMarathons" at meetups, where attendees will be encouraged to edit the English and/or Indian language Wikipedias. This is intended to popularise Wikipedia editing among the general public. In addition, a bot to post DYK's from the Indian Wikiproject to Twitter was created and launched by User:Logicwiki.
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Regrettably, the number of Featured Articles has dropped from 63 in June to 58 at the end of October 2010. Several FAs came up for review and were delisted, while Fundamental Rights, Directive Principles and Fundamental Duties of India was saved. Meanwhile, Chalukya Dynasty appeared on the main page on July 9, 2010. Hearteningly, the number of Good Articles increased from 130 to 136 during the same period, while the number of Featured Lists remained constant at 16.
The date change vandal mentioned briefly in the previous issue made a reappearance when the range block on his IP range expired in September. Consequently the block was extended till September 2011.
In October there was a heated discussion in the India project noticeboard regarding the copyright status of the Indian party symbols. The discussion was triggered by the deletion of Wiki San Roze's party symbol images by Hammersoft as copyright violations. No resolution was reached, partly because of our inability to explain to Hammersoft how election symbols in India differ from party logos. Comments are requested from anyone with a background in Indian copyright law to clarify this issue.
The Bengali Wikisource, which contains the literary works of many prominent writers of Bengali language including Rabindranath Tagore, has crossed the 5,000 pages milestone. According to List of Wikisource page, Bengali Wikisource is now at rank 21 among 56 Wikisource based on number of content pages.
The uploading of Tamil technical words donated by Tamil Virtual University to the Tamil Wiktionary was completed in October. The words were donated by the Government of Tamil Nadu due to lobbying efforts by Tamil Wikipedians during the runup to the World Classical Tamil Conference 2010 (WCTC) in June. Nearly 70,000 words were uploaded increasing the word count in Tamil Wiktionary from 1,20,000+ to 1,90,000+. This has brought Tamil to the 10th place (from 17) in the list of largest wiktionaries and has earned it a place in the Wiktionary front page logo. In addition, Tamil Wikipedians set up a stall at the WCTC and introduced Tamil Wiki projects to people from all walks of life.
The Hindi Wikipedia and its sister wiki projects migrated to the new vector interface on September 1, 2010. In addition, Hindi is the first (and so far the only) Indian language to be incorporated into the WikiBhasha translation and contribution toolkit developed by Microsoft Research.
Mumbai and Delhi held their first meetups in September, where Wikimedia Board members Barry Newstead and Bishakha Datta met up with Wikipedians and other interested members of the public in these cities. A month later, Hyderabad also held its first meetup.
Arun Ram, Shiju Alex and Barry Newstead releasing the Wikimedia India community newsletter at the nineteenth Bangalore meetup on 24 September 2010.
Wikipedians in Bangalore continued their tradition of meeting up regularly at the Centre for Internet and Society, with the nineteenth meetup in September featuring Barry and Bishaka as attendees, and marking the release of the community newsletter. Along with Delhi and Mumbai, Bangalore is reported to be one of the three cities in contention for the Indian office of the Wikipedia Foundation.
The first Wikimarathon, where Wikipedians and members of the public were encouraged to contribute to Wikimedia projects onsite, was held simultaneously at the meetups in Bangalore and Chennai on November 14, 2010. Wikipedians in Delhi also held a meetup the same day.
The Malayalam Wikipedia held several academies in different parts of Kerala over the past few months.
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Hello friends, we are a number of editors from WikiProject India have got together to assess the many thousands of articles under the stewardship of the project, and we'd love to have you, a fellow member, join us. These articles require assessment, that is, the addition of a WikiProject template to the talk page of an article, assessing it for quality and importance and adding a few extra parameters to it.
As of March 11, 2012, 07:00 UTC, WikiProject India has 95,998 articles under its stewardship. Of these 13,980 articles are completely unassessed (both for class and importance) and another 42,415 articles are unassessed for importance only. Accordingly, a Tag & Assess 2012 drive-cum-contest has begun from March 01, 2012 to last till May 31, 2012.
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You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Narendra Modi. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. nancy (talk) 17:53, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
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