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F-35

Hi. The suggestion that I removed your image because you moved the one I uploaded is very petty. I explained myself fully in all the edit summaries. Anyway, the actual reason I removed it is because the caption on the link you provided says "F-35 Lightning II first flight. Lockheed Martin Photo by David Drais." -- so how do you draw the conclusion that is a USAF photo?

You suggest that the image has the same status as the others. You're wrong. The image I uploaded is from www.jsf.mil. The copyright notice says that all images on the site are US Gov/DOD images and hence PD. However it also says those identified as belonging to one of the partner companies are copyrighted to them. The image I uploaded is not identified as belonging to Lockheed or any other company. Mark83 05:18, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for getting back to me. Yes it's exactly the same image, however I explained above whatever is identified as belonging to one of the partner companies is copyrighted to them and not public domain. If you look in this gallery for your image (it's centre col, last row). Put your mouse over it to read the caption it ends "Image courtesy of Lockheed Martin". Mark83 12:23, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes it is a pity, however pretty soon there will be many USAF/USN/USMC images, all of which will be useable. I too noticed that the image I uploaded is not in the gallery it once was. However it is not a company image (at least it was not identifed as such at the time). Let me know if you'd like me to investigate it further. Mark83 22:08, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

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The HK417 in the Norwegian army.

Hello. To give you some proof that Norway is using the rifle; Norway just bought several 417's to be used as sniper rifles along with the 416. My sources are the official Norwegian army page; http://www.mil.no/hv/start/article.jhtml?articleID=140199 and the Norwegian wikipedia, http://no.wiki.x.io/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_HK417

Excuse my grammar. : )

Dybdal 14:23, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Re: About the HK417 reverted edits

That's okay. I'm gonna use the edit summary next time : ) Take care!

Dybdal 14:23, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the userboxes

Thanks for showing me that knew one and also i cant seem to figure out how yo get the baltimore userboxe first. when i see the page it shows like the system of a down userbox before the others even though when i look at the edit this page section it seems like it shouldnt do that. If you could tell me how to fix it or just go ahead and do that it would be greatly apreicated.(ForeverDEAD 19:14, 21 August 2007 (UTC))

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User boxes

How do I make my own user box? I went to the article on them but it didnt help me much. --Muriness 00:51, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

RE:RE:RE User Boxes

Its still not working :( --Muriness 23:52, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

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Revert on M16

Hi. I noticed your edit here. Contrary to your edit summary ('Asams10 is correct, need to finish discussion first'), Asams10 is incorrect, and the discussion seems to have finished. I'm not sure if you are aware there is a guideline governing the use of flags (which this article is currently not adhering to) and also a centralised discussion on whether the flag icon is needed in the article. I can see no consensus there to retain the flag in the article, and I wonder why you reverted to the "flagged" version, incidentally restoring several other minor errors to the article? It doesn't seem helpful in a situation like this and it might be that you would be better contributing to the centralised discussion than reverting another user's good-faith edits like this. Also, perhaps you weren't aware of this, but Asams10 has made it clear that he is going to "bow out of this discussion". User:I already forgot has also indicated the intention to "step back for a while" from the debate. This leaves you as the only person currently insisting on the retention of the flag. If this really is your position and you have not just made a mistake, it would be interesting to hear what encyclopedic purpose you feel the flag serves in the article. Failing that, I invite you to self-revert. Best wishes, --John 22:59, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Sorry to trouble you again. Can I invite you to review the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Firearms#Flag icons and consider commenting? Another user has reverted my removal of the flag icon and insists that, as "Nobody from the firearms community but me made statements", the apparent consensus there lacks validity (see also Talk:M16 rifle#Flag icon). I don't see it that way and I'd be interested in your view. Best wishes, --John 18:43, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

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Userbox help

First off its nice to talk to you again as i havent seen you around any of the articles i do latley but ANYWAY.... can you tell me how to fix this userbox code so it isnt so complicated?

This user likes AK47's

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SA80

Hi I noticed you revrted almost the entire SA80 article back to it's non-standardized, error-riddled opinion-like nature. Have you read any of of the Military History or Wiki Firearms guidelines regarding hardware? It's supposed to be an encyclopedic-quality entry that contains only hard, cold facts, technical detail and hard data. We established that a firearms article main body will contain:

• Brief intro.
• Development history
• Design details
• Variants
• Users

The criticisms or user opinions DO NOT belong in an encyclopedic entry, and that is the goal of WIkipedia is it not? Please go through the guidelines, templates etc. I will revert your change. What may I ask was incomplete about the version I had edited? If you insist on remaining with the criticism section, it belongs on the talk page. Check my profile to see my contributions, all my articles transformed messy and chaotic articles such as this one into an organized, standardized encyclopedia quality entries with the overwhelming approval of the Wiki firearms community. Koalorka (talk) 17:28, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

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TDI

Hi, I agree with your article name TDI KRISS Super V XSMG the problem editor moved it again after your move, so I moved it back to your edit. Chessy999 02:49, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

MEU(SOC) Pistol

Hayden,

There have been several "versions" over the years. Also, it's only been since 2001 or so that the gun has become hot outside of the Corps so now all the custom 1911 smiths are building them "to Spec". The "specs" seem to vary between armorers, too. I have an older version from when I first enlisted. No light rail, different type of Grip safety (MGW), BarSto Match bbl, Videcki trigger, and although it originally had pachmayr grips it now wears a custom set of double diamond Pau Ferro grips with USMC medallions in the center. The one pictured in the article is similar...built on a US Property marked frame but with the beavertail grip safety, the SureFire weapon light, Gemtech Lanyard, Wilson Magazine, and the G10 Simonich Gunner Grips. I know my pistols and the one in the USMC photo have MGW hammers made of A2 Toolsteel. Actually the only thing it is lacking are the Novak sights. I'm on the fence about replacing them as that pistol saw service in WW2 (it's marked "Property of US Army" and according to Colt was built in 1941) and has the forge marks on the front of the slide from the heat treat they did on those prior to service in the Pacific. Don't know if this helps and Wikipedia does not seem to want to know about it if you're writing from personal experience. Not everythjng done in the Fleet is down in Black and white somewhere.--Mike Searson (talk) 04:24, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

FN SCAR images?

Hey I noticed you managed to convince FN to release those SCAR images into the public domain. Since you've already established comms with their reps would it be possible to extend that to their other images, such as those on the FNHUSA.com website? Thanks. Koalorka (talk) 03:08, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

Bushmaster M4 Type Carbine

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M-1 Carbine Revert War

The M1 carbine article is currently on lock down. An administrator has requested some discussion from memeber of the Firearms Wikiproject. Can you take a look? Sf46 (talk) 19:13, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Kimber Custom renamed section

Thanks for pointing out that renaming the section of the Kimber Custom article to "ICQB, Warrior, and Desert Warrior" broke all the links to that section. I should have thought of that. I believe I've now fixed all of the links that I broke, with a few links to the "Custom TLE II" section thrown in for good measure. — Mudwater 00:58, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

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Glock reverts

The Glock 24 info reverted automatically when I edited the page for some reason. It wasn't intentional. For some reason, the bot is not behaving well trying to do other language links either. Kinks. --Asams10 (talk) 01:14, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah that's alright, I thought it was a glitch because bots don't usually remove random parts of the article and your edit description didn't make a mention about why it was removed. Hayden120 (talk) 01:33, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

http://www.tokyo-marui.co.jp/products/09/g18/index.html It's a Tokyo Marui airsoft, all Tokyo Marui guns say the manufacturer name on the gun and are accurate replicas the magazine is a dead giveway its clearly a airsoft mag. I own several REAL glocks and I can assure you this is NOT a real glock

A REAL glock 9mm mag looks like this http://www.mygunaccessories.com/images/glock/Glock%20magazine.jpg An airsoft magazine has the very tiny half circle at the top where the BBs come out Please refrain from making edits to articles that are out of your realm of expertise...

Thanks--Caligvla (talk) 21:12, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

See your talk page. By the way Glock high-capacity magazines have a semi-circular cutout on the top of the magazine. If you were smart enough to realise, that's the back of the magazine. Hmmm, BBs come out backwards? Hayden120 (talk) 00:58, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

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Desert Tactical Arms Stealth Recon Scout

A tag has been placed on Desert Tactical Arms Stealth Recon Scout, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

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OK, but you shouldn't remove tags from articles. You should tah with {{hangon}} instead. I'll add a new tag, but not a db one. Mjroots (talk) 13:32, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Thr Remington 700 article does have an independant reference. The reason I tagged the article you created was that on the face of it, it did seem like it was promoting the company that made the weapon. I accept your explanation of your sources, which is why I have added a hidden note with the tag on the article. Happy editing! Mjroots (talk) 13:52, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

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Dan Wesson says hallo

Hello Hayden!

Nice to regcognize people also working in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Firearms

From my view there is a lot to do merging the internatinal knowledge - no worrys mate we'll fix it -

I'm a hunter and sportshooter living in germany.

I see you are working international - so i try also - my first steps -> [1] [2]

My project is now concerning 'Dan Wesson' which exits nowere else except:[Wesson article group] in Wiki.

That's enough now just to say hallo - and don't eat too much vegemite (which i enjoyed 6 weeks in down under)

Have my best regards from germany Tom --Dan Wesson (talk) 10:18, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

M82/M107

Hey, you are wrong about the M82. The M82 is also known as the M107. Don't believe me? Visit Barrett Rifles' website http://www.barrettrifles.com/rifle_82.aspx Hows that for some proof? ArmoredPersonel (talk) 04:08, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

But i'm still right about the M82 also being known as the M107 right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by ArmoredPersonel (talk • contribs) 19:55, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

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AR15 article

Hayden120, it isn't even so much about world.guns.ru having a link on Wikipedia. It's what appears to me to be a very arbitrary policy. I added links to pages on my site back in 2004, as did the owner of world.guns.ru. Those links stayed on Wiki until sometime last year, when some Wiki member decided to go on a tear and remove all links to my site. Nevermind that a lot of people came from Wiki to view those pages and that, judging from my stats, they appeared to find content they liked, because they hung around for awhile and viewed other content pages.

Did you notice the articles that I have on my site, articles that are useful for shotgunners, pistol shooters, etc? No commercial gain for me by having them there. In fact, I paid for many of those myself. As for the gun pages on my site having content that was "liberally" lifted from manufacturers' sites, I received written permission from every manufacturer on my site to use their photos and information.

World.guns.ru is covered with advertising, from top to bottom. And I know for a fact that the owner makes no small amount of money by selling text links to ImpactGuns.com within the "content" pages.

But my site is bad.

Go figure.

Dick Baker —Preceding unsigned comment added by Monkeyleg (talk • contribs) 05:41, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

AR15 Article

Hi, Hayden120. Actually, I do not sell guns from my site. I offer advertising for stores that sell guns, but I don't sell anything on my site but advertising.

I guess I'll just suck it in and let world.guns.ru be.

Thanks, Dick —Preceding unsigned comment added by Monkeyleg (talk • contribs) 16:49, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

X360

I'm aware that the edits were made by X360 but as the X360 user and talk pages had been moved and redirected to yours since last year I assumed you were the same people. If you are not, please accept my apologies. --AussieLegend (talk) 07:53, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

HK45?

How did you score the image of the HK45? Any more where that came from? Any chance you think it will pass the copyright Nazis, as you're familiar I had a bunch of my FN images removed for not following "proper" OTRS procedures, through my permission log was identical to your email exchange with FN about the SCAR etc. Koalorka (talk) 13:19, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

That's an awesome catalogue, do you think you could re-use some other images from the brochure under fair use? We could really use the image of the HK69, GMG, UMP and several MP5 variants. I'll give the FN and IWI images another try with the OTRS group. The MP7 deal fell through as the dealer was unable to secure the guns from his source at a reasonable price. Koalorka (talk) 20:35, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Out of curiosity, just how did you manage to extract the image of the HK45 from the catalogue? Koalorka (talk) 06:50, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Replaceable fair use Image:MP7A1.JPG

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Fine delete it, not needed anymore. Hayden120 (talk) 16:48, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

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FN images, again?

Hey, since you seem to have more luck with the copyright Nazis on commons, maybe you can try uploading the images FN had provided me, I'll also send you my email correspondence with them for verification purposes. Those were really nice images and I would hate to have them squandered. Koalorka (talk) 23:19, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Remington 870 edit warring

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User box

I swiped your pistol-shooting userbox! I was looking for a nice one, thanks!--Lepeu1999 (talk) 18:35, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

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Gun Politics in Australia

An un-registered user keeps editing in a statement in the Gun politics in Australia article to the effect that "guns can be used for lawful self-defence in Australia". I've tried engaging him in discussion to the effect that the situations in which a gun could reasonably be used for self-defence in Australia are so limited as to be almost non-existent, but to no avail. As someone who has reverted this poster's statement for the same reasons I'm trying to discuss it on the talk page, do you think you could pop past the talk page and maybe add something to the discussion if it's not too much trouble? Commander Zulu (talk) 12:43, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

Eurofighter Typhoon

I think you should check the "high numbers". But regardless (but more significantly) the whole design concept (as for all military modern fast jets) is based on single seat use - the only purpose of the twin set is as a trainer. Wittlessgenstein (talk) 00:36, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. I think this article (and each similar) needs a statement early on about number of seats in the operational role. There are enough twin-seat fast jets still in use to make the distinction a useful one. Wittlessgenstein (talk) 08:26, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

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File:F-22A_Raptor_-03-4058.jpg

Hello, a file you uploaded on Commons meets the Criteria For Speedy Deletion because it is missing a proper permission tag. Feel free to contact me here or on Commons if you have any questions. -Marcusmax(speak) 02:14, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

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June 2009

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for engaging in an edit war at France. Please be more careful to discuss controversial changes or seek dispute resolution rather than engaging in an edit war. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text {{unblock|your reason here}} below. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 07:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

{{unblock|Where exactly did I edit war? I reverted what was effectively vandalism by one user, then I later reverted two disputed changes to what was the current established article. At least two other editors also reverted TownDown's edits. TownDown did not properly use the edit summary for many of his/her edits, and made many reverts. This is unjustified. Hayden120 (talk) 08:07, 10 June 2009 (UTC)}}

For clarifications, I reverted vandalism by one user here, then I later reverted two disputed changes to what was the current established article here and here. At least two other editors also reverted TownDown's edits. TownDown did not properly use the edit summary for many of his/her edits, and made many reverts.[3][4][5][6]

After the map was returned yet again, I stopped reverting because I did not want to break the 3RR. However, TownDown began to hound and threaten me with rather unrelated warning templates such as 'defamation' and 'using improper humor', and then continued replacing these comments even after I chose to remove them.

Even after I thought the issue was resolved, he/she reported me for 'vandalism', which as far as I know I did not commit. Why is this editor able to get away with such disruptive editing, and yet I am punished for doing nothing wrong? Were my edits even reviewed before I was blocked? Hayden120 (talk) 09:23, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Blocks are preventative, not punitive - this block wasn't a punishment, it was to stop the issue from escalating. More comments on my talk page, but I think everyone is at fault here, and that Hayden isn't making it easier to resolve. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 09:47, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

It was already resolved. The edit war had ceased and I had made a productive edit, separate from the issue, on the article. You don't consider this vandalism? I'm sorry, but that's how I saw it. It was unexplained and apparently counter-productive. You seem to be nitpicking to find a fault in my editing, when other editors have clearly broken the 3RR. I am also sorry for my incivility, but I find it incredibly frustrating and insulting when I am hounded by a person who accuses me of something I did not commit, especially defamation. The lack of justice on Wikipedia is quite disturbing. Hayden120 (talk) 10:04, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll leave this up to the reviewing admin, but I stand by my block. Seeing as the article has now been locked, however, an unblock would do no damage to anything, so I wouldn't protest an unblock. Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 10:13, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

It wouldn't matter if the article was unlocked and I was unblocked, I still wouldn't revert the user's additions. As I said, I respect the 3RR and I believe I only made 2 genuine reverts. Anyway, would you care to revert the 2 counts of vandalism on Berlin? It's lingering on my watchlist and I can't correct it. Thanks, Hayden120 (talk) 10:30, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for understanding and unblocking me, Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry. Unfortunately, I still can't edit because my IP address is also blocked. However, I have noticed this email you added to Backslash Forwardslash's talkpage, from TownDown. This worries me; I was hoping that we could move forward without any further issues. I am not quite sure what this so called nationalism is—the fact that Backslash Forwardslash and I both come from the same country is pure coincidence, there are many Australian editors on Wikipedia. What concerns me most however is this: "but he tells lies all the time, for example he told me about a previous consensus justifying his reverts". Feel free to go through my contributions, I am quite sure I haven't lied about anything. Hayden120 (talk) 12:02, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Don't worry about that; it's best that you ignore it. We'll deal with it at this end through the admin channels, there's an eye being kept on it! Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 12:19, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

WP:3RR

Hayden120 shouldn't be unblocked because Hayden120 violated the Wikipedia:Three-revert rule in 24 hrs [7],[8][9], and may be blocked from editing for up to 24 hours. I don't understand why the admin has considerations with it. --TownDown ^{How's it going?} 13:05, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Maybe Jimbo could explain me why.--TownDown ^{How's it going?} 13:14, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Because my first edit was reverting another editor's vandalism, whether or not that was their intention, that's how I perceived it. Secondly, what exactly is your motivation? Is there a problem that is still present? Please drop the stick and move on. If you are going to make claims that I lie or question your intelligence (which I don't, I was merely reaching an understanding of a potential language barrier), please provide evidence. Thanks, Hayden120 (talk) 13:15, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

The rule applies per page in 24 hrs no per users reverted, I can report the admin for this, clearly the admin shows considerations to unblocked you before time, but I won't do that if you are not unblocked. --TownDown ^{How's it going?} 13:31, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I am unblocked. Vandalism is not included in the 3RR, although interpretation of what exactly constitutes vandalism can sometimes be ambiguous. In this instance, the edits appeared counter-productive and akin to vandalism, so I reverted them. Reporting an admin on his decision making would be bad faith on your part. Please, for the love of Wikipedia, drop the stick! Hayden120 (talk) 13:40, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Good for you!. Well, that's why I told you before, please don't accuse me of vandalism when it is not. Farewell! --TownDown ^{How's it going?} 14:26, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

I didn't accuse you of vandalism... this edit by Galati is what I thought was vandalism, and hence I reverted it. Anyway, I think this is settled. Thanks, Hayden120 (talk) 22:42, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

International relations

Are you interested in helping out at Czech Republic – Iceland relations and Belgium–Mexico relations? The articles are up for deletion for not having enough sources, your research skills would be helpful in contributing reliable sources. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 15:42, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I'll be quite busy over the next few days, but I'll see what I can do. Regards, Hayden120 (talk) 22:45, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Desert Tactical Arms Files

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E-mail

Hayden120, I don't suppose you could send me an e-mail, there's something important that I'd like to talk with you about. It involves a number of other people too, and we'll be discussing something I think you'll want to be a part of.--LWF (talk) 01:34, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Sure, no worries mate, I'll send you one now. Thanks Hayden120 (talk) 02:00, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

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Original research on The Netherlands

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"officially recognized"

You undid revision 306060104 by Fingon1 ( "Czech:: Celovec") from the Klagenfurt article with the argument "Unlike Slovene, Czech is not officially recognised". The deletion is absolutely okay with me, but just for argument's sake I should like two point out two things:

1. In Austria the Slovene name for Klagenfurt is not officially recognized either. However, that name is in everyday oral and written use by the Slovene ethnic group that has been living in Carinthia for longer than the present German-speaking majority population. In Slovenia "Celovec" is generally used, but does this make ist "official"?
2. On the other hand, there is neighbouring Ljubljana, which until 1918 was officially "Laibach" and which is still referred to as "Laibach" in Austria, a name which doesn't come up until in the chapter Etymology and Symbol it is mentioned as old German. Milan, which was Austrian (remember the provocative VERDI, VERDI - shouts in the Milan Scala opera house meaning Vittorio Emmanuele Re D'Italia?), is always called "Mailand" in German, and Venice is always Venedig. But have a look at the entry Kaliningrad: You'll find “(Russian: Калининград, Lithuanian: Karaliaučius, German: Königsberg, Polish: Królewiec)”. Or Trieste: “(Italian: Trieste; Slovene: Trst; Croatian: Trst; German: Triest)”. Or: Bratislava: “historically Pressburg (Hungarian: Pozsony, Slovak: Prešporok”. Yet "Clanfurt" as used for Klagenfurt in neighbouring Furlan language is not given in the English article. I don't really see any consistency, do you? - :? :) - Marschner (talk) 19:47, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Okay, the Slovene name may not be officially recognised, but I do believe the Carinthian Slovenes are a recognised minority in Carinthia, and there are a few bilingual signs even. But yes, I am not particularly keen on listing places in half-a-dozen languages that have no recent or substantial significance in the region, at least not within the lead of the article. In my opinion, the common English name of a town or city should be given priority, then the standard local name. Readers are able to select other language Wikipedias to learn about alternate place names. Hayden120 (talk) 05:22, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

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Black Saturday bushfires - vandals

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No worries

No worries, im just doing abit off cleaning up the sentences and stuff. Its all good champion. Thanks! Dorseoa talk 08:05, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Minor edit

Hi, was this edit meant to be flagged as minor? Looked like a bit more than just a grammar fix. --GenericBob (talk) 09:07, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for alerting me, it appears the other editor made two more edits before I submitted mine. Hayden120 (talk) 09:14, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

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Anders Örbom

Can people take a peek at the article Anders Örbom, its a translation from the Swedish Wikipedia, but the English version is up for deletion, you can help improve the article. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 03:13, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

England

The problems with User:Yorkshirian's style of editing, are, firstly, that he makes a number of basic spelling, grammatical and stylistic errors; secondly, that he has a very strong POV, particularly against what he perceives as "left wing" and/or "nationalist" bias; and, thirdly, that he tends to defend most his edits with excessive vigour, edit warring when necessary. (In case you don't know, he came off a year-long block quite recently.) I'll raise some of these points on the talk page, but I'll try and minimise my further contributions to minor corrections until there is some consensus on the talk page in relation to his more major changes. Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:09, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

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Vienna

Vienna does not have a capital because it is a city and a state rolled into one. There is no second city in the state of Vienne. The Bürgermeister (mayor) is also Landeshauptmann (Governor), the Gemeinderat (municipal council) is also the Landtag (Parliament).--Zoris Trömm (talk) 12:40, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Interesting, thanks for the correction. I noticed your change in the revision history and was at first going to leave it (considering you're Austrian yourself and obviously more up-to-date than myself), but it seemed unusual to me that a mistake could go unnoticed for so long. Instead I was bold and reverted it until you could comment. I apologise for the inconvenience. Hayden120 (talk) 12:49, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Never mind. I´ve done wrong reverts myself. Lerning is a proces including mistakes. It´s always nice when someone is interested in one´s country. Greetings, --Zoris Trömm (talk) 13:59, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

England

Thanks for sorting out the economy/infrastructure section. I saw that on the GA checklist but thought it would be difficult to sort... it looks good the way you've put it though. Yorkshirian (talk) 02:35, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

No worries! I wasn't sure how to sort it out at first either, but I had a look at a few other similar articles for an idea. The only peer review comment I'm not so sure about is 'I would suggest moving "Demography" to right after "Geography"'; most other similar articles (Australia, Belgium, etc.) follow the format here at WikiProject Countries, which suggests that the 'Economy' section should fit between 'Geography' and 'Demographics'. However, it appears that this format is generally followed loosely; the current layout ('Geography', 'Demography') should be fine. Hayden120 (talk) 04:03, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Edit: It appears you've already changed it, nevermind. Either way is fine. Hayden120 (talk) 04:17, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Just want to say a big thanks for your work on England. I regularly see your name flash up on my watchlist on this article and it hasn't gone un-noticed. You've made this article a very high quality page. Thank you. --Jza84 |  Talk  11:01, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! I try to help where I can. I apologise for my lack of participation on the talk page; if my knowledge is somewhat limited in a particular area (such as Cornwall), I tend to feel disinclined to take a stance. You've done a lot of great work yourself, well done! Furthermore, it has been a quality team effort overall, well done to all those involved. It'd be fantastic to see this one get featured article status eventually. Hayden120 (talk) 04:06, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Ah

On the computer I usually use, it shows up as three. But I used a different computer where it showed up as only two and thought it was broken or something. - Yorkshirian (talk) 04:47, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

England

		The Teamwork Barnstar
		For England. Thanks. hamiltonstone (talk) 23:52, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Cheers! Best regards, Hayden120 (talk) 05:00, 15 October 2009 (UTC)