Talk:England
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GA concerns
editI am concerned that this article no longer meets the good article criteria because of the uncited text throughout the article, including an entire paragraph in the "cuisine" section. Is anyone interested in finding citations for this information, or should this go to WP:GAR? Z1720 (talk) 21:54, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
- WP:SOFIXIT? - SchroCat (talk) 20:54, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- @SchroCat: It would take me hours, if not days, to go through the sources, determine what uncited text is verified by which source, add the reference information, and reword or remove prose that is not verified anywhere. This time would stop me from working on my own projects, other wikiwork, and real-life commitments. The article does not need to have GA status: if others would like this article to keep it, they are welcome to fix the article and I will check it. Z1720 (talk) 23:26, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
GA Reassessment
editThe following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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- Result: Delisted. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:21, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
There is uncited text throughout the article. Z1720 (talk) 20:47, 9 September 2024 (UTC)
- Work could also be done on GACR3b, as the article has gained almost 3,000 words over time since its promotion. CMD (talk) 02:05, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
GINI and HDI
editGini needs to be added to the infobox, as per Wales and Scotland's infoboxes. Between 2016 and 2019, it was 35 for England.[1] HDI should also be added. TheHandofFear (talk) 21:47, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- We don't have HDI figures for England I'm afraid — only for Scotland, Wales and NI. No one has published any for England. Dgp4004 (talk) 09:05, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Please could you add Gini? TheHandofFear (talk) 18:33, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
Largest conurbations in England
editThis table needs updating for the 2021 census. It's now more than a decade old. 2A02:C7C:75BE:B300:99FD:EDD4:8AC3:B7DB (talk) 12:06, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 22 November 2024
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The "Direct rule by the UK Government with some sub-regional devolution within a parliamentary constitutional monarchy" in the information box should be changed.
Reason: The devolution is not just sub-regional, but also on a parliamentary level.
In October 2015, the Government implemented changes to the Standing Orders, introducing the "English Votes for English Laws" (EVEL) policy. EVEL addressed the West Lothian Question by granting English and Welsh MPs a more significant role in legislating on matters that exclusively affect their constituencies. Under the new procedures in the House of Commons, the Speaker is required to determine whether a bill pertains solely to England. If it does, and the bill includes provisions applicable only to England or Wales, it undergoes an additional stage before the third reading. At this stage, only English or Welsh MPs can exercise a veto over these provisions during the committee review. The changes do not affect the legislative process in the House of Lords however Leoshuo (talk) 15:04, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
Not done for now: Would need a few sources calling that devolution or describing the governance of England in a similar way.
CMD (talk) 15:54, 22 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Chipmunkdavis:@Leoshuo:
- There is sub regional devolution in England through the Combined authorities, England is not just ruled at U.K level.[1]
- EVEL was scrapped in 2021 as confirmed by this citation and in the article.[2] ChefBear01 (talk) 14:30, 24 November 2024 (UTC) ChefBear01 (talk) 14:30, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 December 2024
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In the infobox, next to Government, there is a tiny error. The cite isn't correctly placed after 'some sub-regional devolution'. There is a space. 2A0A:EF40:E01:DB01:D4AA:2555:85C0:A869 (talk) 23:41, 7 December 2024 (UTC)
- ^ "English devolution". Institute for Government. 2024-06-21. Retrieved 2024-11-24.
- ^ "Commons scraps English votes for English laws". BBC News. 2021-07-13. Retrieved 2024-11-24.