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RefTag tool generating incorrect page ranges

Please see this discussion, specifically about inaccurate page ranges, like "p. 99–", that are being generated by the RefTag tool. Thanks. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:54, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Dates of Print/Later Online Publications

While updating a citation, I noticed an issue with DOI 10.2307/971600 in your RefTag tool - The article was originally published in 1995 in its journal (and your tool correctly picks up the journal, volume, issue, and page numbers), and later published online in 2017. The RefTag tool is erroneously picking up that later online publication year rather than the original print publication year. Verbatim9 (talk) 20:39, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

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Reftag and Wikidata

Hello, hope this message will find you well. We talked a couple of times a couple of years ago. About your Reftag tool, it collects Metadata from Google Books, I was just wondering if anyhow it can be used on Wikidata. --Titodutta (talk) 19:26, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

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Feedback on Citation tool for Google Books

I want to thank you for this tool first, it's saved me a lot of time, and has simple, neat interface. One feature request I have is, that is automatically loads whenever the url changes. Shushugah (talk) 22:46, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

What about some more features on Google books tool?

Hi Apoc, Wikipedia citation tool for Google Books is quite helpful for many editors, which saves a lot of time. However, I can see over years the commonly accepted usage across Wikipedia has changed, and also a few other citation styles came into existence. Basically, I'm saying that the tool needs to be upgraded or updated, whatever :) If you're interested to work on this, I would like to discuss more. KCVelaga (talk) 06:51, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Is there a reason this isn’t integrated into Wikipedia software by default? It would save many editors the time and also looking for this tool. Is there an older discussion I’m unaware of? Am software dev and interested in helping :) Shushugah (talk) 14:53, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

ISSN 03009572

I use DOI Wikipedia reference generator often, and I like it a lot.

Unfortunately, it generates an ISSN with incorrect syntax—it lacks a hyphen. The error was detected by WPCleaner.

The format of the ISSN is an eight digit code, divided by a hyphen into two four-digit numbers or ISSN.org. The correct format is with the hyphen.

Thanks for creating the DOI Wikipedia reference generator. Comfr (talk) 03:21, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

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bug in Wikipedia citation tool for Google Books?

Enter a google book url, click load. Choose {{cite book}} or {{citation}} formats and the wikitext includes populated |authorn= parameters. Choose 'plain wikicode' format and the author infomation disappears from the wikitext rendering.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 19:59, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Refining this: There must be multiple authors so this url works as expected:

https://books.google.com/books?id=TqCNZYXWXAUC&pg=PA17 (link)

but this url does not include the author information:

https://books.google.com/books?id=Yzj62yMyV8YC&pg=PA10 (link)

—Trappist the monk (talk) 22:38, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Maintenance

Hello! I see that you haven't responded to talk page messages in a while. Are you still maintaining Reftag? I have some suggestions but I can figure something else out if you are no longer working on that project. czar 14:41, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

Another issue with citation tool for GBooks

Hi. There appears to be an issue with this tool. If you plug https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=59XvXKbyvZIC into it, you get details for a 920-page e-book edition published in 2011 by Butterworth-Heinemann with ISBN 978-0-08-056009-0, but the GBooks preview at that link is actually for a 902-page print edition published in 2008 by Elsevier with ISBN 978-0-7506-8987-8. The difference in pagination might mess up page numbers in references that cite the book. Factotem (talk) 10:44, 23 March 2019 (UTC)

Google Books changed their format and now the tool doesn't seem to work

Google books changed their format then I tried plugging a google books URL and get a message that the URL is not a google books URL. --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 10:52, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Pushback for adding Google Books links to book citations

Hello, I'm getting pushback for adding Google Books links to book listings in the Donner Party article, something I've not encountered previously in my experience as a Wikipedian. Do you know of any justification for rejecting such links? Thanks, WolfmanSF (talk) 04:39, 25 May 2019 (UTC)

@WolfmanSF: The Google Books URLs have changed, and it seems that the Google Books citation generator hasn't been updated yet. I tried to generate a citation for this link, but the citation generator won't parse it. Jarble (talk) 17:05, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

"Classic Google Books" is still available at least for now. For how long, I'm not sure. It generates this url which still works with the tool. Most of my old links in Turning point of the American Civil War are still good. In "new Google Books" (at this link), you can generate a citation by clicking on the "Create Citation" button under "About this edition". WolfmanSF (talk) 01:42, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

NY Times URL

Tried these today without any luck:

• https://nyti.ms/29K22zG
• https://www.nytimes.com/1983/08/25/us/vitamin-is-linked-to-nerve-damage.html

They're from an archive, so that might have something to do with it. - Scarpy (talk) 21:00, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Current url not working on Reftag for NYT:

• https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/04/well/eat/scientist-who-discredited-meat-guidelines-didnt-report-past-food-industry-ties.html

I use your Gbooks reftag app all the time, thanks a lot for that! Mathglot (talk) 19:04, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

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doi adding italic tag on title

doi:10.1086/ahr/104.2.586 is generating tag italic in title. i suspect the issue is with upstream. however, i would like to take a look once. thank you Leela52452 (talk) 07:26, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

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doi 10.17226/568 only cite journal, year and doi are generating.

where as "citer" is generating cite book with more details.

please excuse for referring other data generator.

thank you talk Leela52452 (talk) 15:14, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Google Books citation generator tool no longer working?

Hi, I've been using your Google Books citation tool for awhile now, but as of today it looks like it may be having a problem. Google Books is not offering me its books in the usual format, and it seems that this is also interfering with your tools ability to generate a citation from the corresponding URL. Check out this one, for example: https://www.google.com/books/edition/Dictionary_of_Textiles/ycE2AQAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&bsq=pile. A loose necktie (talk) 07:42, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

(talk page watcher—was waiting for a response about this tool from a while back) If you use the "classic Google Books" URL, the tool continues to work. It doesn't support the new URL format. czar 03:45, 18 April 2020 (UTC)

Czar, is there a trick to getting the google books search result to open in the old URL format? I don't see an obvious way to convert the new to the old, and even when I click "no" to the "try the new google books", each search result I open switches to their new format. Schazjmd (talk) 22:37, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

@Schazjmd, how are you arriving at Google Books? In Chrome, I use a search engine shortcut to search https://www.google.com/search?q=%s&tbm=bks (replaces %s with the actual search query) and it still puts me in the old format, which works for now. It's a matter of time before the old version is phased out, though. I still use Apoc's tool occasionally but otherwise I do my citation building/management in WP:Zotero now. czar 23:47, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

Czar, I just go to https://books.google.com/. Search results look the same as before, but opening any of them uses the new interface. I guess I'll just have to get used to it. I might try the Chrome shortcut idea though, thanks! Schazjmd (talk) 23:54, 19 April 2020 (UTC)

@Schazjmd, also are you logged in? When I visit the main link (like you do), it still opens to the old format. But if I try it when logged out, it defaults to the new format. A thought. czar 00:12, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

Aha, I bet that's it! I stay logged out of google just on general principle and it didn't occur to me to try it logged in. Thanks! Schazjmd (talk) 00:19, 20 April 2020 (UTC)

And here I was, hoping the original tool could be fixed somehow and I could continue using it. Apparently this is not to be the case. I had become quite comfortable with the way the tool worked, and am disappointed that I must now learn a new system (or just stop leaving citations quite as often as I prefer to, which is my other alternative). So be it. A loose necktie (talk) 05:49, 29 April 2020 (UTC)

Isn't working for me anymore either. :/ Example: [1] - Scarpy (talk) 22:41, 7 May 2020 (UTC)

Here's a way to get the old-style links. It may not work for everyone, but when I am on a new Google Books page there is a message at the top that reads, "Welcome to the new Google Books: Check out the new look and features, or go back to classic Google Books". If I click on that link it takes me to the old interface, which yields the same old links that work with this tool. As with all Google redesigns, the "classic" will probably be taken down after a while, so we will need to get the tool fixed sooner or later. Ibadibam (talk) 22:55, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

• I just came here to report the same thing, and found this discussion. So, is there any solution ? --Gazal world (talk) 14:45, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

  Same here Google books tool not working.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 14:41, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

My workaround is to use a saved bookmark to an old (books.google.com style) working Google Books citation generator tool reftag like this one, so you can call it up when necessary. The bookmark will have the old format in the Google Books URL field of the tool: http://books.google.com/books?id=rK8aAQAAIAAJ then just manually replace the "rK8aAQAAIAAJ" tag with the tag from the book you're trying to make a ref for from the URL of the new (www.google.com/books style) Google books format – the "yMorAQAAMAAJ" tag after the book name from the new format: https://www.google.com/books/edition/Fort_Ridgely_State_Park_Management_Plan/yMorAQAAMAAJ and press the "Make Citation" button. Kind of cumbersome, but not too bad. Mojoworker (talk) 22:47, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

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Google Updated Google Books

And the (great!) Citation Tool seem to have problem with those links - e.g. [2]https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/_/6usVz9ZbdKMC?hl=en&gbpv=1&pg=PA466 It says "Is not a Google Book URL...." CommanderWaterford (talk) 14:20, 23 February 2021 (UTC)

RefTag and the new Google books - Is it now obsolete?

Is RefTag workable *at all* with the "new and improved" Google Books? I am generally a WP:GNOME and quite often have added RefTag generated g-books links into various articles (too many to count I'm sure). What I've found "works" is to find a location in a book with (now "Classic") g-books, and then turn off JavaScript and go forward and then back one page, which gets the correct page number into the URL. Then I sometimes mess with it to figure out what parameters I can delete from the URL and still not break it. (I've never bothered to systematically figure out how it really works - what/whether there's a difference between the "pg" and "lpg" parameters, whether the "f" parameter actually means anything, etc.)

The "new and improved" Google Books doesn't seem to work at all without Javascript. For now, one can still go to the "classic" interface, but for how long - who knows. I've read that Google seems particularly schizophrenic about supporting old APIs and such that are used by other people. This is ironic considering that was the main argument against Oracle in their recent epic potentially-computing-as-we-know-it-shattering-case that they fortunately won. Or mostly won I think - my understanding is it didn't specifically say APIs were public-domain, just "fair use" which is nebulous. Jimw338 (talk) 16:55, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Wikipedia citation tool

Is this still supposed to be available - been getting

Error: Server Error

The server encountered an error and could not complete your request.

Please try again in 30 seconds.

for some time now --Michael Goodyear ✐  ✉ 02:52, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Apoc2400, I have been having the same trouble and receive the same error message when I try to use the handy citation tool, Reftag.appspot.com . 30 seconds or a week later, the same error message appears. I find this a very useful tool both for shortening very long googlebook links and learning ISBN for many books in inline citations. Will this tool be available again any time soon? -- Prairieplant (talk) 04:34, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

It is almost essential for adding Books that are in Google Books to Citations - my concern is that this user may not be active currently --Michael Goodyear ✐  ✉ 02:10, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

It appears that this issue was identified earlier this year - see here --Michael Goodyear ✐  ✉ 02:27, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

It would appear that (a) there have been issues for a while, but the server error is new, and (b) this user has not responded to comments on this page for some years --Michael Goodyear ✐  ✉ 02:39, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

@Apoc2400: Just another ping to see if you're still around. Seeing the same issues as above. - Scarpy (talk) 21:05, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

It would appear not. Therefore other resources need to be used instead. Some are using Zotero, others the citoid within Visual editor. Michael Goodyear ✐  ✉ 01:07, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

The script code (Python) is available. I don't know how useful it is; it's quite old. Possibly the tool was taken offline because it no longer worked, and updating was not an option? Not something I can help with. Best wishes Pol098 (talk) 21:36, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

500 Server Error (27 August 2021)

• https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://reftag.appspot.com:80/nytweb.py
• https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://reftag.appspot.com:80/doiweb.py
• https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://reftag.appspot.com/gb.py
• https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://reftag.appspot.com/static/gb.js
• https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://reftag.appspot.com/returnjs.py
• https://web.archive.org/web/20210224161430/http://reftag.appspot.com/nytweb.py
• https://web.archive.org/web/20200801133935/https://reftag.appspot.com/doiweb.py
• https://web.archive.org/web/20210528081530/http://reftag.appspot.com/
• Wikipedia:RefToolbar/1.0#refToolPlus

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• https://web.archive.org/web/20190126091659/http://marklets.com/RefTag.aspx

.... 0mtwb9gd5wx (talk) 03:22, 27 August 2021 (UTC)

It is unclear what point you are trying to make here --Michael Goodyear ✐  ✉ 22:56, 30 August 2021 (UTC)

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