Talk:Rajatarangini
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editThis article, and particularly the section on The Dynasties, could use expert input to give dates, additional short notes on each dynasty, references to sources of additional information. Although the article is about the book, Wikipedia does not seem to have any comprehensive article on the period described. Aymatth2 (talk) 20:40, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
Dubious statement
editHistories were written prior to Rajatarangini, eg: the Vikramankadevacharita of Bilhana, the Ramayana and the Mahabharata, Bearing these in mind, are we sure that our statement - "Kalhana (कल्हण) (c. 12th century CE) a Kashmiri Brahmin was the author of Rajatarangini, and is regarded as Kashmir's first historian" - is correct? Do those earlier works not deal with Kashmir? If they do not, does anyone know why Kalhana refers to them? The statement certainly needs sourcing. - Sitush (talk) 10:36, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
Kalhana as Kashmir's first Historian
editKalhana in his Rajatarangini mentions about other historians whose work he has relied upon. Hence, calling him the first historian of Kashmir is innaccurate and should be deleted from the article. Even if sourcing is available, it would be in direct contradiction to his own writings. I see only the following possible ambiguity, since the other works deal with greater India & not only with Kashmir (or Kas'mira as it was then called). However, Kashmir was still (at certain periods of time in history) part of the indian state (as during King Ashok's time). Hence, is better to remove this statement. -Ambar (talk) 09:30, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
Rajatarangini - Its preservation & recovery by Buhler & Aurel Stein
editAm considering introduction of a section on how the Rajatarangini was preserved for generations & the subsequent process of its recovery by Aurel Stein. Its also correct to mention Buhler here, who travelled all the way to India to establish its presence, so that Aurel Stein could recover it later. The following website would be one of my primary sources. http://www.siraurelstein.org.uk/wayindia1.html -Ambar wiki (talk) 17:57, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
MEANING OF RAJATARINGINI
editBy this Kalhana actually meant waves of Kings as taraGga in Sanskrit means wave.
Note the Rajatarigini is one of the most credible and fine books of history ever written. Thus there is no scope for the manipulation of the history of Kashmir. Kashmir was never ruled by the Mongols. Some people are bringing this into the history of this region to push their future agenda. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.88.88.175 (talk) 18:33, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
No subject
editKalhana's credibility is further confirmed by the authentic history of Sindh Chachnama written during that period, on Lalitaditya it mentions, "If I had sent against you Rai Jaisiah who is the most victorious of all the rulers on the face of the earth and who can wreck vengeance on the strongest men of age, or the king of Kashmir who is the mighty possessor of a crown, kettle drums and standards, on whose royal threshold the rulers of Hind and even the country of Makran and Turan, whose chains a great many noblemen and grandees have willingly placed on their knees...". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.68.111.90 (talk) 03:39, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
Khaga/Khaga/Khankha?
editHis wife Anangalekha became involved in an extra-marital affair with the minister Kharga. Despite catching them sleeping together, Durlabhavardhana forgave Khaga, and won over his loyalty. After Baladitya's death, Khaga crowned him the new king.
What is the minister's name exactly? I also see Khankha.--Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 18:53, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- Khankha seems to be the most common transcription, going by Google Books. utcursch | talk 22:16, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
Exaggeration?
editAs usual concocted history with an agenda. How can Kalhana have exaggerated the conquests of Lalitaditya when the authentic Chachnama corroborates it. Also Mihirkula was supported by Gandhara Brahmins and not the Kashmiri ones. Read RT in detail. We will not let you change our history of our place, be sure of that.
Post by a Kashmiri. -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.64.96 (talk • contribs)
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Dates indicated here for the reigns of all the kings are either misinterpreted or fabricated
editAll the dates indicated here for the reigns of all the kings are either misinterpreted or fabricated. Lipwe (talk) 02:20, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
Nara I (Kinnara) | 40 years, 9 months | 1023 BCE | His queen eloped with a Buddhist monk, so he destroyed the Buddhist monasteries and gave their land to the Brahmins. He tried to abduct a Nāga woman, who was the wife of a Brahmin. Because of this, the Nāga chief burnt down the king's city, and the king died in the fire. |
Buddhism could not exist before the birth of the Gautam Buddha(c. 563 BCE or 480 BCE).
Mihirakula | 70 years | 735 BCE | According to historical evidence, Mihirakula's predecessor was Toramana. Kalhana mentions a king called Toramana, but places him much later, in Book 3. According to Kalhana, Mihirakula was a cruel ruler who ordered killings of a large number of people, including children, women and elders. He invaded the Sinhala Kingdom, and replaced their king with a cruel man. As he passed through Chola, Karnata and other kingdoms on his way back to Kashmir, the rulers of these kingdoms fled their capitals and returned only after he had gone away. On his return to Kashmir, he ordered killings of 100 elephants, who had been startled by the cries of a fallen elephant. Once, Mihirakula dreamt that a particular stone could be moved only by a chaste woman. He put this to test: the women who were unable to move the stone were killed, along with their husbands, sons and brothers. He was supported by some immoral Brahmins. In his old age, the king committed self-immolation. |
Mihirakula ruled from 515–540 CE.
I did not cite others as these two examples are enough to highlight the issues of the dates — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lipwe (talk • contribs) 02:28, 31 October 2022 (UTC)