Talk:Olympic sports

Collapsible tables

I really dont like the current state of the tables. The colors to separate the disciplines in each sport are great. I think, however, to make this look more like a page than a list (which is where we wanted to go with it) we need to put less focus on the tables. I think we can do that by sucking all of the disciplines on the tables into one bar that lists the sport name, and it is collapsed by default only to be opened by the reader to see the events per year. This would both significantly shorten the page and make it less cluttered looking. Also, it would be more managable to look at the tables.

I'm just not sure how to do this, so if someone could give this a look, that'd be great! Jared (t)  18:11, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

If you're talking about something like this (diff), feel free to copy-paste the code over the current article. --necronudist (talk) 19:46, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Colors in tables

The background colors in the tables are impossible to distinguish on an LCD screen. I recommend using some colors that are a little more intense. Ericbodden (talk) 20:37, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I agree. I would change it myself, but I'm not sure if there's a specific reason the current colors were chosen? Either way, higher contrast would be helpful. Xazy (talk) 04:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Canoe/Kayak

Both the official 2008 Olympics website and the IOC website list the official name of this event as "Canoe/Kayak" (not "Canoeing"), as both types (Canoes and Kayaks) are used in these events (C1 500m, K2 1000m etc....). It is correct on this page but currently most articles referring to this sport list it as just "Canoeing" (Canoeing at the Summer Olympics, Canoeing at the 2008 Summer Olympics). Shouldn't these articles and all those related be moved to reflect this? (Canoe/Kayak at the Summer Olympics, Canoe/Kayak at the 2008 Summer Olympics etc...) The name of the sport should surely be "Canoe/Kayak" with the disciplines being Flatwater and Slalom Goldfinger820 (talk) 09:52, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

The short version is that we like to keep things simple at WP:OLY. To give you a bit more of an explanation, I dove into the archives, and found this archived section from the talk pages of WP:OLY, and basically, it seems that Canoeing was actually the name of the sport up until 1992. Since we try to keep consistency throughout the years, it was just as well to leave out the "kayak" part. Plus, there is no way to write "Canoe/Kayak" and make it look visually appealing; the short name seems to have been working fine. Jared (t)  00:08, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

sounds fair enough to me. Goldfinger820 (talk) 00:45, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

GA Review

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GA review – see WP:WIAGA for criteria

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This article is in decent shape, but it needs more work before it becomes a Good Article.

1. Is it well written?

   A. The prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct:

   Well done.

   B. It complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation:

   In the Recognized sports section, you don't need to add "International Federations", since (IF) is already explained in the lead. Also, in the same section, I would normally say that linking an article twice is bad, but I am not sure if, for example, "karate" and "golf" should be linked twice.

   Check. --  ThinkBlue  <span style="font-family:Time

   Check. --  ThinkBlue  < style="font-family:Times New Roman">BLUE) 03:11, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

2. Is it verifiable with no original research, as shown by a source spot-check?

   A. It contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline:

   B. Reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose):

   Does Reference 14 cover all this ---> "Before 1924, when the first Winter Olympic Games were celebrated, sports held on ice, like figure skating and ice hockey, were contested at the Summer Olympics. These two sports made their debuts at the 1908 and the 1920 Summer Olympics, respectively, but were permanently integrated in the Winter Olympics program as of the first edition. The International Winter Sports Week, later dubbed the I Olympic Winter Games and retroactively recognized as such by the IOC, consisted of nine sports. The number of sports contested at the Winter Olympics has since been decreased to seven, comprising a total of fifteen disciplines"?

   C. It contains no original research:

   D. It contains no copyright violations nor plagiarism:

3. Is it broad in its coverage?

   A. It addresses the main aspects of the topic:

   B. It stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style):

4. Is it neutral?

   It represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each:

5. Is it stable?

   It does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute:

6. Is it illustrated, if possible, by images?

   A. Images are tagged with their copyright status, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content:

   B. Images are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions:

7. Overall:

   Pass or Fail:

   If the above statements can be answered, I will pass the article. Good luck with improving this article!

--  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:02, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much for doing this review! I have gone through your comments and made appropriate changes to the article, which hopefully fix the few concerns you had. If you have other concerns before passing the article, please feel free to contact me on my talk page, or bring them up here! Jared (t)  20:22, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

The statements have been addressed and I would like to thank Jared for getting the stuff I left at the talkpage, because I have gone off and passed to GA status. Congrats. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 03:11, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Sports

there is no mention of Art competitions at the Summer Olympics??? The list of recognized sports is crazy. Does anyone have a real list?LedRush (talk) 15:40, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

The list is taken from the IOC official website. Can't be anymore real than that. Parutakupiu (talk) 16:25, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

IOC is crazy. But that's the sad reality... --necronudist (talk) 20:16, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

But bridge isn't an olympic sport, is it? Is there a difference between sports recognized by the IOC and actual olympic sports? If so, that should be made more clear in the article.LedRush (talk) 21:31, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Also, they don't have golf! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.170.192.5 (talk) 01:06, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

I would say we can remove Rugby and Golf from the Recognized Federations list as they are now Olympics Sports. I realize that they are referenced as being included in the 2016 Games, but it seems non-nonsensical to keep them on the Recognized list and not in the Current Summer Program. On a very pedantic point, you could argue that we are not yet in the 31st Olympiad and therefore they are not 'current', but this seems silly to me. I would say update the Current Program table to include 2016. Kurt O'Sys (talk) 13:26, 25 April 2013 (UTC)

I just read a huffy Yahoo! comment that complained about rhythmic gymnastics being considered an Olympian sport, but Greco-Roman wrestling had been removed from the Summer Games line-up. Is that so? Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 04:34, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

Telemark skiing: please add to list of recognized sports (it is under the FIS) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Langstrom7inchgangleywrench (talk • contribs) 11:34, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

single-gender sports/disciplines

Is there a list anywhere of sports or disciplines that are reserved to one gender only? Richardson mcphillips (talk) 20:51, 19 July 2010 (UTC)'

I was wondering that too. There's no female ski-jumping, and no male rhythmic gymnastics or synchronized swimming. I think there's one other male-only discipline, but I'm having difficulty finding it based on the links from this article... AnonMoos (talk) 19:35, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Flatwater canoeing is also male only as is Nordic Combined. Ravendrop 21:55, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Additional Winter Olympic events

I made changes to the Winter Olympic table in light of recent decisions from the IOC. I do believe it is appropriate to have these new events considering that the schedule is getting finalized. --Perakhantu (talk) 06:08, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

US special case?

I am mystified by the following sentence:

In the United States, "Olympic sports" may also refer to any NCAA intercollegiate sport that does not generate revenue for a college the way college football and men's college basketball do.[2]

The citation given doesn't support the claim. And the claim makes no sense. --Rob (talk) 20:19, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 1 December 2011

Under the heading "Changes in Olympic Sport", the second paragraph states that only four sports have never been absent from the Summer Olympic programme.

However, this seems to be an error as Cycling is not included and according to the table on the same page, Cycling has taken place at every Summer Olympics. This is confirmed by the page "Cycling at the Summer Olympics".

Therefore, the sentence need to be changed to add Cycling to the end after Athletics, Swimming, Fencing and Gymnsatics.

ANC1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.182.238.117 (talk) 16:51, 1 December 2011‎

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. →Στc. 07:18, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Reliable Source = Wikipedia page "Cycling at the Summer Olympics". Or is this not reliable ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.182.238.117 (talk) 11:59, 5 December 2011

I think it is OK to add this without a proper source as it is mentioned in Cycling at the Summer Olympics, the table on Summer Olympic Games#List of Olympic sports and Track cycling. There are also articles on cycling for every year Summer Olympics has been held; see Category:Cycling at the Summer Olympics. I'll go ahead and add it unless Σ or anyone else disagree with this. jonkerz♠ 01:43, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Martial Arts

there used to be a portal on their respective pages link Olympic boxing, fencing, judo, taekwondo, and wrestling. what happened to it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.101.160.159 (talk) 19:36, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

GA Reassessment

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Well-written

The article's lead, as tagged, is not written in summary style. It does not accurately summarise the article. Parts of the article appear to contradict other parts. For example "Recognized international federations" does not list the recognised federations. It is also unclear why this is not in "Olympic sports definitions". --LauraHale (talk) 12:44, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Factually accurate and verifiable

Much of the article is completely uncited. This is the primary reason for nominating it for GAR. The article needs to be fully cited again to be a GA. --LauraHale (talk) 12:44, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Broad in its coverage

Appears mostly broad but organisation is a problem that makes this a bit hard to judge. --LauraHale (talk) 12:44, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Neutral

Appears to be mostly neutral. --LauraHale (talk) 12:44, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Closing

As no changes have been made to the article in six days and no one has indicated they want to do the work to maintain GAN status, I will be closing this and delisting. --LauraHale (talk) 11:59, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 2 August 2012

The totals for the chart listed under "CURRENT SUMMER PROGRAM" reads as follows Total events 43 89 96 78 110 102 156 126 109 116 129 136 149 151 150 163 172 195 198 203 221 237 257 271 300 301 302 302

The math for the totals is incorrect and should read as follows Total events 43 79 91 77 96 101 149 124 109 116 128 136 149 151 150 163 172 195 198 203 221 237 256 269 298 299 302 302

Drew.mcintire (talk) 14:11, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Done Puffin ^{Let's talk!} 14:28, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Maths is still wrong - If you look down 2008/2012 you'll see a total of two additional events, yet they both total 302. Bejings total adds upto 300. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.22.0.226 (talk) 14:15, 3 August 2012 (UTC) Based on cycling at summer olympics page - think number may be right, but cycling total for Beijing wrong.

Broken link

FYI, the first footnote leads to a broken link. 67.142.163.22 (talk) 01:03, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Track and field (athletics)

I came to the page to try and find some info on track and field. Took me like 5 minutes to figure out its only mentioned as athletics. I scrolled up and down the little grid, looking for track and field.. Couldn't find anything. I did a control+f search for the word running (didn't appear), track only appears as track cycling, a few other words that didn't come up.. I even had to link a friend and have him look for where track and field is in the article and he couldn't figure it out either, and I had the same problem on another Olympics page. Now after I saw the word athletics, I realized that's where track and field is, but it shouldn't have been so hard. I've been watching the Olympics all week and watched many broadcasts in my life, and I haven't heard a single commentator or anyone on t.v. refer to the entire track and field genre as "athletics." Now I'm sure it's officially all encompassed as athletics in some official documents and websites, but should ease of use and popular usage come in to play at all? Dancindazed (talk) 04:36, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

For the vast majority of the world athletics is the term that is used not track and field. Athletics is also used in all official documensta and websites as that's the IOC designation - Basement12 (T.C) 07:36, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Volo volantes voto

> Air sports * (Those sports marked with an asterisk are not eligible to be included at the Olympic Games because the Olympic Charter specifically bans sports with an element of motorization from eligibility.)

This statement in the article makes no sense, because:

1. Several air sports are non-motorized, like wave-riding under a Rogallo wing or a large parachute. All that can be done by simply jumping off cliffs, no winch or tug plane needed. What about hot-air balloning? What about human powered pedal-flight, which has been a reality since 1979? (Google for Gossamer Albatros)

2. Summer Olympics already includes competitions with motorcycle escorts, that are used to cancel out the air drag to (unfairly) aid pedal-cyclists. Why is that not taboo then? Marathon runners are surrounded by 1000cc tour bikes with camera staff.

3. Gunpowder based shooting is an internal combustion machinery based sport and is present at the games. There is no fundamental thermodynamical difference between a motor and a firearm. In fact many engines can be run on gunpowder, instead of diesel or petrol with minimal mods.

It is common knowledge that the Summer Games includes no air games because the Olympic Comitte is mostly french and the french lost their previous love of aviation after they were crushed in the air by the germans in WW2. Bleriot and Exupery cannot rest in peace, seeing the cowardice of their present day compatriots! 91.82.39.124 (talk) 21:11, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Number of summer sports

The article says 28 is the max, but all of the recent sources say 25 core sports and 1 core sport, so it should be 26. Wert7 (talk) 13:24, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

It is 28. The sources I think you are referring to are the ones about dropping wrestling/selecting a new sport. Those are omitting Golf and Rugby 7s, which have already been confirmed for 2016 but are not part of the review process. I'm not totally sure if the IOC is terming Golf and Rugby 7s as "core" or not, though. But, it is 28 sports. Ravendrop 22:26, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Edit request

I've never heard of it before, but several sources, including one in the Olympic movement makes it seem valid, and it certainly makes sense. It seems Olympic sports are categorised based on popularity and that this determines "share of Olympic revenue".^[1][2][3] This is important information and should be added to the article.
"Summer Olympic sports are divided into categories based on popularity, gauged by ticket requests, televison viewing figures, press coverage and other factors. The category determines the share the sport's International Federation receives of Olympic revenue.

The current categories are:

• Category A: athletics, aquatics, gymnastics.
• Category B: cycling, basketball, football, tennis and volleyball.
• Category C: archery, badminton, boxing, judo, rowing, shooting, table tennis and weightlifting.
• Category D: canoe/kayaking, equestrian, fencing, handball, field hockey, sailing, taekwondo, triathlon and wrestling.
• Category E: modern pentathlon, golf and rugby."

85.167.109.26 (talk) 15:42, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

To solidify the sources for this - here it is straight from the ASOIF website: [4] There are also articles on this at Yahoo! Sports and Reuters. I think this might be a better fit for another article... possibly International Olympic Committee. Thoughts? --ElHef (Meep?) 23:39, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

As it is a classification of sports based on their (not their federation's) popularity I think it is worthy of mention in this article, as well as mentioning it in some way in the revenue distribution sub-subsection of the IOC article. For this article I think a subsection ("Classification of summer sports" or similar) between "Current summer program" and "Discontinued summer sports" would be appropiate. Do you know if there is a categorisation for winter sports; AIOWF doesn't appear to have a website.
Unrelated issue: Shouldn't the recognised sports be at the bottom of the page, after the "Winter Olympics" section? 85.167.109.26 (talk) 00:10, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

I've been mulling this proposed addition over and think it's a good idea to add to both this article and the IOC article as ElHef suggested above. Once I think of an appropriate location to add it I will. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 14:46, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

First off, I agree with IP85's suggestion of moving the list of recognized IFs further down in the article and I've gone ahead and done that.

As to placement of this addition, I'm fine with adding it to both articles. For the IOC article I still think it would best fit in the International Olympic Sports Federations section, as that's specifically talking about revenue flowing from the IOC to the IFs. In this article... if there was a corresponding list for the Winter Olympics (which there would almost have to be - there's no way the IBU gets as much revenue share as the FIS or ISU), I would put it in its own section following the Winter Olympics, discussing both sets of sports under the umbrella of revenue - but I've been unable to track down such a list. As IP85 notes, the AIOWF doesn't have a website, and the IOC seems to be going out of its way not to publish these breakdowns. As it is I might still do that simply because revenue doesn't enter in anywhere else in this article (and it might go better at the end now that I've moved another "miscellany"-type section there). I could possibly see putting it in a subsection of Current summer program, but I think it's more awkward. Right now the article flows from present to past - that would make it go from present to money to past. --ElHef (Meep?) 22:25, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for moving the recognised sports. I was also thinking a separate section after "Winter sports" if only winter sports classifications could be found. I'm thinking it would be fine to go ahead with that section for now, and just add the winter sports if/when the classification becomes public. (Presumably, if they have a new formula for calculating it changes are likely.) The only alternative I see is a subsection of Current summer program, but I agree with the flow issue and it was always intended as a temporary solution due to unavailable information.
"[The] IOC seems to be going out of its way not to publish these breakdowns": Yes, their official page is incredibly detailed. 85.167.109.26 (talk) 23:47, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

They do detail as well, though, just much harder to find. Nothing about IFs in this one though, but if you want to know know how much any particular NOC got start at page 54. 85.167.109.26 (talk) 00:14, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I had found most of that too... not that specific report, but something very similar. I'm still coming up completely empty on funding information for winter IFs, though I did dig up a bit more potential information about summer. [5] has information about the criteria used to determine the rankings, and [6] states that the ASOIF determines the formula and actually distributes the funds. I'm tired and done thinking for the day so I'm not going to evaluate past that right now, but that was new info I wanted to pass on. --ElHef (Meep?) 03:18, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

I think we should just start the section on classification and revenue with the summer information, and then update when more is known. Re AIOWF: Did you notice how the leadership and contact information matches the IIHF? 85.167.109.26 (talk) 11:41, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please make your request in a "change X to Y" format. - however, the talk page may be enough for someone to add it. Mdann52 (talk) 12:47, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

OK, was a bit tricky as there was no "x". 88.88.162.238 (talk) 12:41, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Change "empty space between sections 4 and 5" to "new section 5"

Create new section 5 per the discussion above:
==Classification of Olympic Sports for revenue share==
Summer Olympic sports are divided into categories based on popularity, gauged by ticket requests, televison viewing figures, press coverage and other factors. The category determines the share the sport's International Federation receives of Olympic revenue.

The current categories are:

• Category A: athletics, aquatics, gymnastics.
• Category B: cycling, basketball, football, tennis and volleyball.
• Category C: archery, badminton, boxing, judo, rowing, shooting, table tennis and weightlifting.
• Category D: canoe/kayaking, equestrian, fencing, handball, field hockey, sailing, taekwondo, triathlon and wrestling.
• Category E: modern pentathlon, golf and rugby.

References

88.88.162.238 (talk) 12:41, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

I'm inclined to make this change, but I have a question first: what about other sports? This is not a comprehensive list of summer Olympic sports. Rivertorch (talk) 21:03, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. To answer your question, it is a complete list of the 28 Olympic sports for the Rio Games, where this classification will apply. Aquatics, for example, includes the disciplines water polo, diving swimming and synchronised swimming. In other contexts they are occasionally considered distinct sports, but in the context of the Olympics a sport comprises of all the events controlled by the same International Federation, cf. the Olympic Charter. (Similarly for volleyball and beach volleyball etc.) 85.167.110.98 (talk) 22:48, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

I see. That makes sense. In adding your proposed addition to the article, I've converted the references to standard templates, decapitalized "Sports" in the section title, and demoted it from a top-level section and placed it at the end of the Summer Olympics section. The placement you suggested didn't make sense to me, but please feel free to reopen this request if you still want it elsewhere. Rivertorch (talk) 05:11, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Perfectly happy with the placement; it was my original suggestion in the first edit request. The proposed placement was in anticipation of a similar system for winter sports. 85.167.110.98 (talk) 16:27, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

Please put Telemark Skiing under Recognized Sports (it is under the FIS) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Langstrom7inchgangleywrench (talk • contribs) 11:36, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

Needs works

The article needs an over-haul. A quick read shows a number of problems:

• arcane language - the article use terms that are rarely, if ever, used in the general population. This makes the article hard to digest. Example: "athletics" as a reference to track and fields sports. The use of the term "contested" is also odd.
• gender information with each sport - as mentioned earlier in this talk page several sports are only allowed for a single gender
• sport inclusion/exclusion criteria - very imported yet absent or buried
• now versus history - the article is a spaghetti mix of the history of sports and current information. The information should be separated, possibly into separate articles. For example, the large table of discontinued sports would go into a history article. War (talk) 15:30, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 December 2013

Wushu, camel racing, and chess will be added at the 126th IOC Session in Sochi. EXPOFunner (talk) 22:03, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

Number of events at Pyeongchang 2018

What is the correct number? There are 98 events listed at the official site of Pyeongchang 2018 http://pyeongchang2018.com/horizon/eng/page/sub03/sub03_03.asp with the note: The list of Events can be changed. Nitobus (talk) 13:01, 29 October 2014 (UTC) The way I did it was look at the 2018 olympic games Wikipedia page and then look at the website highlighted above in your post to view the number of events for those events not yet in the calendar. If I did indeed count wrong, please do correct it (or both articles if the other Wikipedia page is wrong)M00036 (talk) 12:47, 30 October 2014 (UTC) OK Nitobus (talk) 21:02, 30 October 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 July 2015

Please add footnote "1" to "Ultimate" under "Recognized international federations" section. Ultimate is an official sport of the World Games listed as "Flying Disc (Ultimate)"

References

152.85.8.38 (talk) 13:35, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Done Stickee (talk) 05:09, 17 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 May 2016

Huj678i (talk) 17:12, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Current and discontinued summer program

Sport climbing is the only sport not yet linked to an existing Wikipedia page in the "Current summer sports" table. Please link to the following, which presents the three sport climbing disciplines to be featured at the Games and describes current instances of the sport hosted by the governing Body (International Federation of Sport Climbing): https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Climbing_competition IFSC (talk) 14:12, 16 October 2017 (UTC)

Edit Request

The table cell for the image for greco-roman wrestling has an attribute rowspan=2 - this is incorrect, no rowspan attribute is necessary in this cell.

Marathon Swimming Link

The link for Marathon Swimming on the list of which sport was part of the olympics on which year is wrong. It leads to Synchronised Swimming instead of the Marathon Swimming's article. HarryShezar (talk) 13:15, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Subdivision of winter sports into disciplines

We need to ascertain how many sports there are in the winter olympics and whether they are divided into disciplines or not. Up to and including the 2014 Winter Olympics the consensus appears to have been 7 sports and 15 disciplines, but in the Infobox Olympic games/events sub-template the 2018 and 2022 entries have consistently been reverted back to 15 sports with no division into disciplines. Why would the IOC suddenly change their approach anyway? The official list (https://www.olympic.org/sports) shows 15 sports with no subdivision, but is this just for the sake of convenience rather than an official line? Does anyone have a contact at the IOC that they can ask? Please join the discussion here. Thanks, Rodney Baggins (talk) 06:16, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

http://olympstats.com/2018/01/24/sports-disciplines-and-phases/ Jeff in CA (talk) 21:28, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Sources?

This article describes the distinction between sports and disciplines in great detail but it is not adequately sourced. Where did all the information come from in the first place? There is no official IOC source and the only source given is from a dubious blog which is now unavailable even via the WayBackMachine (https://web.archive.org/web/20070418084050/http://www.hickoksports.com/history/olsports.shtml) I've had no luck finding alternative sources to back up any of the information stated in this article. It's all very well citing the individual sports governing bodies, but in terms of the Olympics, we need to source the information from the Olympic governing body, i.e. the IOC, who make the rules for Olympic terminology. Rodney Baggins (talk) 06:20, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

http://olympstats.com/2018/01/24/sports-disciplines-and-phases/ Jeff in CA (talk) 21:28, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 6 July 2018

Change link to "lifesaving" from https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Lifesaving#Sport to https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/International_Life_Saving_Federation#Lifesaving_sport Canadasurf (talk) 02:41, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

 Done L293D (☎ • ✎) 11:51, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Breaking (breakdancing) in 2024

Sky ESPN USA Today CBS --2602:306:348E:17B0:C561:5DAB:5F35:845F (talk) 18:20, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

Outdated organizing body for sailing

ISAF has been renamed to World Sailing (WS) as of 2015, but that has not been reflected in the table here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:586:4100:25E0:C921:9B25:1B5D:D8D1 (talk) 03:30, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Archery 1900

Archery in 1900 has 7 events, not 6 as shown un the tablet. Igor Agarraberes (talk) 15:02, 31 July 2021 (UTC)

Serious flaws in tables

The four tables that list “alphabetic sports” and Olympic debuts are in need of serious revamping or removal. They contain misleading and inaccurate information, degrade the look and feel of the page, disrupt the text flow by taking up too much space, imply that international federations existed well before they did, use inferior presentation and disregard useful templates, and more. Jeff in CA (talk) 12:29, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

I agree. They must be removed. All information exists in the main table. Unnecessary duplication. Nitobus (talk) 12:45, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

Removed. -- Jonel (Speak to me) 12:49, 6 August 2021 (UTC),

Suggestion for discontinued athletics events

Due to the particular nature of athletics, which are not officially divided into disciplines, I think it would be very interesting to include somehow, either for example in the table of discontinued summer sports, or in a different table, discontinued athletics events, and especially those resembling to different "disciplines", such as for example Standing long jump, Standing high jump, Standing triple jump,Greek or ancient style discus, Freestyle javelin, Weight throw, throws (javelin, shot put, discus) with both hands etc. Otherwise, at least to mention them in the text and indicate that a full list of discontinued athletic events exist in the page of Athletics at the Summer Olympics.--Harry Deconstructing (talk) 07:05, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Adding IOC Sport Codes to the Summer Program and Winter Program tables

Would someone be able to add the respective sport discipline codes from here: https://odf.olympictech.org/ioc/Olympic_Movement_Sport_Codes.pdf to the Summer and Winter tables ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Inferrinizzard (talk • contribs) 21:11, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Art competitions, Alpinism and Aeronautics are official Olympic disciplines

Art competitions, Alpinism and Aeronautics should not be included in the section as unofficial sports. Unlike the other listed disciplines, they are viewed as official by the IOC. This can also be seen in the NOC profiles on the IOC website (below some examples).

• Germany - Profile with Art competitions and Alpinism
• Great Britain - Profile with Art competitions (but not for Alpinism in 1924)
• Switzerland - Profile with Aeronautincs, Art competitions and Alpinism

I don't want to say that these three Olympic disciplines have to be included in the main table (or other medal tables habe to include them), but they are definitely not viewed as demonstration sports or as unofficial by the IOC. After an email request to the Olympic Studies Center, this was also confirmed. Therefore I would suggest adding a separate section for these three. Miria~01 (talk) 23:40, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Hm that's interesting. I had put them into unofficial because the Smithsonian article says about art competitions: "The 151 medals that had been awarded were officially stricken from the Olympic record, though, and currently do not count toward countries’ current medal counts." JSwift49 00:04, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

But the Paris 1924 official medal table now includes Monaco's art medal: [7] so you are right. JSwift49 00:09, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Classification info outdated

As said, the transparent classification is 2013. The Classification section is outdated and may either need to be updated or wholly erased from the article. However, tried seeking recent reliable sources covering the classification and found nada. George Ho (talk) 17:26, 4 August 2024 (UTC)

I’m happy to remove it. Or add a brief sentence in an earlier section that classification used to take place. JSwift49 02:26, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Sure, please feel free to remove if willing. We don't wanna mislead readers into thinking that the classification is still as-is. George Ho (talk) 03:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Non-Olympic disciplines/Youth Olympic sports

Hi, I would like to ask a question and actually make an edit request: shall we add a mention of non-Olympic disciplines of the Olympic Sports, especially those contested at the Youth Olympics ? The IOC’s official website enlists Olympic Sports (incl. Youth disciplines), and some disciplines have been featured only during the Youth Olympics (eg. Beach Handball, Acrobatic Gymnastics, Rolling Speed Skating, Beach Wrestling, and Futsal; in addition, demonstration Sports included Karting). Their Sports subpage shows Summer, Winter, and Youth disciplines together, so it shouldn’t be controversial. Perhaps we could just mention those exclusively held at the Youth Olympics; it might be interesting for an average reader. At the very least we could possibly add "For disciplines contested only at the YOG see: Youth_Olympic_Games#Sports". The reason why I’ve thought it would be reasonable to include these disciplines on the same page was because the IOC does so (see their official website at the Sports section). That means all the mentioned disciplines are not only recognized by the IOC but also held at Youth Olympics; the article mentions all the sports governed by the officially recognized federations, so I thought it’d be useful for readers to mention YOG disciplines as well. If the article mentions all potential sports (eg. sumo), perhaps there would be a way to mention the disciplines such as Futsal? Since they can be regarded as potential disciplines, too, we could possibly add something like "other disciplines recognized by the IOC and currently held only at Youth Olympics include" with the reference to the IOC’s Sports subpage? I wouldn’t mention them as Olympic Sports proper but rather in the context of recognized/potential disciplines. I think it’s a bit odd to have all the recognized sports (currently non-Olympic) and no mention of currently non-Olympic disciplines of Olympic Sports. The article even idicates which non-Olympic sports are contested at the World Games (a very different event as well). It feels a bit incomplete especially since the IOC itself enlists YOG disciplines together with the Olympics ones. I think there should be a list of non-Olympic disciplines of Olympic Sports and even a footnote indicating which of them are contested at the YOG (similar to the footnote about the World Games). Moreover, the IOC’s website describes Youth Olympics disciplines with their "Olympic Debut" as "YOG only". Thanks! TaurenMoonlighting (talk) 21:20, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

I support keeping the page as-is. The Youth Olympic Games page already has a table listing Youth Olympic sports, and listing non-Olympic disciplines falls out of the scope of this article. The 'Olympic sports' page to me is basically an extension of the 'Olympic Games' page, and the 'Olympic Games' page does not cover Youth Olympics.

The listing of IOC recognized federations is still a listing of sports. What you are proposing is a listing of disciplines of Olympic sports that aren't in the Olympics, so it's different. JSwift49 21:43, 9 August 2024 (UTC)

Chart needed

With a picture being worth a thousand words, I think we should supplement the oversized tables with something that's much easier to understand and visualise.

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How about these bar charts of the number of gold medals? I did the top 17 categories (ie, everything with more than a 1.7% share) for all the summer games since 2000. We can expand once added. 213.78.191.154 (talk) 21:17, 10 August 2024 (UTC)

I would support replacing the "Sports frequency" section with something like this. JSwift49 13:51, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Great. What's the best way to get these two added?

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