Talk:Mark Wright (footballer, born 1963)
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Dates of management/Chairmanship
editNot sure if they're right, so have a check if you know any better :) --Tiresais 13:54, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
The Widnes chairmanship is poorly cited and I removed it. Given that the "other" Mark Wright was also working on adding his name and luster to lower level teams at the time- there is every possibility this one story cited the wrong Mark Wright and I can't find any other corroboration. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/reality-tv-star-former-footballer-10060582 Johnccarleton (talk) 13:05, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
Racially Abusing an Official
editWas this ever proven - if not, then surely it is a little unfair to include it?
New Version by LBloome
editI believe the new article posted by LBloome is substantially better sourced, more informative, and less subjective than the article it is replacing. If there are POV statements that are objectionable- it seems better to use the new article and line-edit it rather than use the old article.
For MOS- The article appears to be along the same lines as that of Michael Owen and therefore allowable?Johnccarleton (talk) 22:19, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
- Your version (or that by User:Lbloome if that's not also you) has introduced a lot of unsubstantiated opinions: e.g. "key member", "talented", "excelled". That's three in the first two sentences alone.
- The original article used the British dating style i.e. DMY; thus his date of birth should be shown as 1 August 1963, whereas you changed this to August 1st 1963. This was not a mistake on your part but a deliberate act.
- Seasons should be shown as, for example, 1995–96, not 1995/1996 or 1995-96 (note the different dashes).
- Football scores should be shown as, for example, 2–0, not 2-0 (again, note the dashes).
- The use of dates in the season headers in the form "'91-'98 " is just wrong.
- Despite what you say, large chunks of the revised article are unreferenced.
- For some reason (Liverpool bias?), you reduced his entire time at Southampton (actually a third of his career) to a sentence and a half. Then suddenly, he's at Derby County.
- Most of your references use bare URLs rather than the correct citation modes.
- You suggest that, if I don't like your version, I should ";line edit it". No - the onus is on you to do this and get it more or less right.
- Until you can produce a better, properly written, properly sourced article, written from a neutral point of view, the older version stays. Sussexpeople (talk) 06:44, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
I am not User:Lbloome but I appreciate the constructive criticism and I hope he can make the edits you suggest. I think the new article is much better, and better sourced. The neutral POV can be improved though. Johnccarleton (talk) 13:44, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
New Sandbox Content for Review
editI have contacted LBLoome and asked to take over the new article as I seem to be developing such a great rapport with y'all.
I have made all the MOS and POV edits I believe required, and posted them to my Sandbox https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/User:Johnccarleton/sandbox[1]. I believe substantially all facts are cited, but I am happy to be told otherwise and work with the community to make them better. Disclosure: I have shared a beer with Mark Wright in Liverpool and I am a fervent fan of LFC (though I live in the US). I have not been paid or engaged to edit this wiki. I just think it is a shame his wiki is of such a poor quality compared to other LFC greats! Johnccarleton (talk) 14:17, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
As of today I am re-citing all of the citations to meet the requirements. They can be followed on the sandbox above. (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:38, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
I have submitted my sandbox article for review. I believe it is substantially better (and better sourced) than the current article. I have removed all POV and updated the citations. Johnccarleton (talk) 16:04, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
Content Updates with Citations
editI will be slowly adding the additional content on the sandbox above, edited for POV to this article. I'll add it slowly to give the community time to discuss/edit/revert. Johnccarleton (talk) 13:05, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
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