Talk:Javier Muñoz (Spanish footballer)

Requested move 11 November 2015

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The result of the move request was: moved to Javier Muñoz (Spanish footballer), dab page moved to base location. Also there's a consensus to rename Javier Muñoz Mustafá to Javier Muñoz (Argentine footballer). Jenks24 (talk) 08:55, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

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Javier Muñoz → Javier Muñoz Jiménez – We presently have articles on Javier Muñoz who plays for Real Madrid Castilla and gets 20-30 Wikipedia hits daily on his page, and we have Javier Muñoz (actor) whose page gets 200-300 hits daily, and who plays the lead in the Broadway hit musical Hamilton on certain nights. Both Javiers Muñoz are early career. I have no crystal ball, one may someday be a major star, the other, a footnote to history. At present, however, moving the footballer to his full name would be similar to the other footballer, Javier Muñoz Mustafá (who gets 2-3 hits a day on his WP page). Alternatively, we could direct all searches for Javier Muñoz to a disambigulation page, and sort them out there. My news and other searches are not dispositive. The actor is hot right now on English languages searches, but his notability is very new, the futbol player comes up better when I search in Spanish, but news and other searches are also full of other Javiers Muñoz, quite a popular name. E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:17, 11 November 2015 (UTC) Relisted. Jenks24 (talk) 12:14, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Support move as this article's creator. This is a very common name in the Spanish language, and this footballer is not the clear most famous person to have it. Make the name itself a disambiguation. This was what was done for Harry Kane before the footballer of that name became clearly more noted than the others. '''tAD''' (talk) 21:15, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

• Agree to make the name itself primary, with disambiguation to all three (and future Javiers Muñoz).E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:00, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

• Comment E.M.Gregory it should be moved to Javier Muñoz (footballer) per naming conventions. We don't use the maternal name, neither do Spanish newspapers. Support move if template above corrected to (footballer). Javier Muñoz Mustafá creates an oddity, not sure why his double-barreled surname is used. That might require (footballer born xxxx) for the first one. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:05, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

• comment I'm good with Javier Muñoz (footballer), but Mustafá is also a footballer. There must be a precedent. Could it be Javier Muñoz (Spanish footballer), Javier Muñoz (Argentine footballer)? I will defer to what ever is usual, or to judgment of User:In ictu oculi and other experienced disambiguation editors.E.M.Gregory (talk) 13:00, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

Created Javier Muñoz (disambiguation) In ictu oculi (talk) 04:08, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

• Relisting comment. Looks like there is a consensus to move, but not clear agreement on exactly how this subject should be disambiguated. Jenks24 (talk) 12:14, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

• I think we can move the two footballers to Javier Muñoz (Spanish footballer), Javier Muñoz (Argentine footballer), on the model of John Adams (disambiguation), where we find John Adams (Ohio politician). The alternative might be something like John Adams (ice hockey, born 1946), John Adams (ice hockey, born 1982), but the nationality of each of the Javiers who play futbol seems like a better identifier.User:Jenks24. E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:35, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

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