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Regarding you note

Hello, and thank you for leaving a note on my talk page. I typically don't use my page at all, so I hope you won't mind if I respond here.

I misread the part where it noted changing the name from experimental statistics ("previously known as experimental statistics") as if they are no longer considered as experimental, thus the update. And noticed the full text only sometime around when 90% of retyping was done... Anyway, it seems to still be beneficial at least for the cities page, which hadn't been updated for a long time. Of course, all your points about the official release will stand at relevant time. Respublik (talk) 11:12, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

@Dgp4004 Any reason for the revert, given that the data is not out as of yet and it wouldn't revert the count until the 2025 release at least per what you've said? Respublik (talk) 06:27, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Respublik, unfortunately the ranking system was broken. You replaced the 'English district rank' field with a row count. So the order was no longer correct and changes to the rankings wouldn't be reflected when the mid-2022 pop estimate data is released in spring. Dgp4004 (talk) 07:45, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I changed it to reflect the ranking of the table, as the updated final 2022 data wouldn't overwrite the sorting rank for the estimates until it would have the 2023 data. As I understand it – and please feel free to correct me – any bot update wouldn't automatically rearrange the table's row positions and would only change the numbers? Implication being that there is no immediate need to have the subst row count for some time. Or am I wrong and it's necessary for the update? Respublik (talk) 07:56, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Your edits on Merseyside page

Thank you for correcting my mistakes in your edits to the Merseyside Wikipedia article concerning GDP/GVA figures. I appreciate you taking the time to amend based on the source information. The years were selected for comparative reasons. I hope you have a good start to the new year. SW1APolitico (talk) 15:53, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Units

Please see the manual of style section on units. For UK articles, metric comes first, followed by imperial. Regards, Wizmut (talk) 14:00, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, that's much easier actually as all the ONS stats are metric! I will amend my edits. Dgp4004 (talk) 14:07, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the revert

Thanks for catching this. If you see that sort of vandalism again, please report them to AIV as a sockpuppet. See WP:ANI#Vandalism in country/state/geographical area. Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 19:50, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Hi Ed, I'm not entirely sure the right place to report this, and I'm really not sure if it is a sock puppet. But could you take a look at the edits of 2001:999:404:DB00:1270:2F84:6362:5BC5 please and let me know your thoughts. Has all the hallmarks of past editing patterns of plausible but unverifiable data. I've reverted previous edits but not on List of equipment of the Pakistan Army. Dgp4004 (talk) 23:47, 20 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the ping! I'm guessing this is someone else as it doesn't involve geography, but those are very curious edits. It looks like someone else has reverted them on the Pakistan article. Ed ^{[talk] [OMT]} 20:02, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

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Questionable district population stats

You updated the infobox for City of Milton Keynes. I honestly can't see the point of giving an estimated population for 2021 when we have a precise figure from the census. We have the silly result that the lead of the article says "just over 287,000" but the infobox says just over 288,000. The citation for estimate says that it was to be updated in "summer 2023", so in all honesty I really think that your edit was premature until the master source on wikipedia is updated. I don't want to revert your work because of the time it took and because it is going to be needed sooner or later. But really it would be a far more valuable use of your time to get the source data updated. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 21:16, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Unless you intend to edit all 296 English district articles when the 2022 ONS population estimates are released (which could be any time as they're well overdue—the release date was summer 2023 but that's been and gone) then they should all be using the English District templates.

Given the City of Milton Keynes infobox was still referencing the ONS code (deprecated in 2011) and not the GSS code, I took it that it was not being actively maintained. Dgp4004 (talk) 21:35, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

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Hi there, the economy section of the England page could do with an update. For example, the GDP per capita is currently outdated there. You can find the section here. 2A0A:EF40:E81:7701:5C71:BD6E:C731:ED7F (talk) 09:43, 23 May 2024 (UTC)

Population ref problem

Hello, since the recent changes to the UK templates for creating the population for counties there appears to be a problem for the East Riding of Yorkshire page which gives a "Cite error: The named reference ONS pop stats was invoked but never defined". Can you take a look at the templates to see where the error comes from? Many thanks. Keith D (talk) 21:10, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Ah sorry about that, good spot - I've fixed it now. Thanks for letting me know. Dgp4004 (talk) 22:22, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick fix. Keith D (talk) 11:38, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

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You created {{NI district density rank}} and similar templates earlier this year. They are still unused. Do you have a plan to use them? Unused templates are typically deleted. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:52, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Jonesey95, no I don't think the below templates will be used now and I'd have no objection to their deletion:

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• {{Welsh council density rank}}
• {{Scottish council density rank}}

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Tudor crown

The current arrangement of gems in the Tudor crown did not only appear in 2022. There was a similar arrangement in 1928. This can be seen from the coat of arms in The London Gazette in 1928 and the British passport in 1946. Coat of arms used to prove. [1]1934 2401:E180:8820:4B75:93:D66A:1251:2B98 (talk) 08:57, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

St. Edward's Crown was also used during the reign of Queen Victoria. This can be seen from The London Gazette in [2]https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1837/2/pdfs/ukpga_18370002_en.pdf and [3]https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1900/56/pdfs/ukpga_19000056_en.pdf. I think the heraldic depiction of the Imperial Crown should be like this 1. This can be seen from this Draw a picture to speculate

File:Imperial State Crown of Queen Victoria.jpg 2401:E180:8822:15A:3967:2C31:4A7D:7F49 (talk) 09:10, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

You're quite right about the 1924 lesser arms (not 1928) which depicted a crown different to the 1901 Tudor Crown. But I'm not sure what you'd like me to do with this information.

Likewise, you're quite right that the heraldic crown was variously depicted during Victoria's reign as either the St Edward's Crown, the 1838 Imperial State Crown, or latterly a form of Tudor Crown. But again, I'm unsure what you want me to do with this information. The sources on all of the above are practically non-existent. So even if you and I know, it's difficult to add it to Wikipedia. It's also somewhat trivial for inclusion in an encyclopedia. There are dozens and dozens of variations on the imperial crown. We can only speak of the main ones backed up by reliable sources. Dgp4004 (talk) 11:54, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

I understand that there are no suitable sources to prove this as you mentioned, I bring this up just because I feel that what is currently written in the encyclopedia is a bit inaccurate, and the current content reads to me like the crown of St. Edward was during the reign of Queen Victoria. It is not officially used in heraldry, but the fact is that in many places, in addition to the Tudor crown, there are also many places where St. Edward's Crown is used. At least the depictions I saw are mainly based on these two crowns.

In heraldic depictions, other crowns are not as commonly used in heraldic depictions as the Tudor Crown and St. Edward's Crown.

File:Queen Victoria coronation ticket.webp 112.105.152.215 (talk) 16:13, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

The same goes for the arrangement of gems in the Tudor crown. The current article makes me read as if this arrangement only began to appear in 2022, but the fact is that this arrangement appeared as early as 1928.

Although the color of the gemstone may vary. 2401:E180:8820:64D6:380D:C06A:C2D7:74DB (talk) 16:18, 11 December 2024 (UTC)

The issue of reliable sources of proof did not occur to me at the time. Although we had reliable actual use cases, there was no reliable literature to prove these examples. 2401:E180:8820:64D6:380D:C06A:C2D7:74DB (talk) 16:22, 11 December 2024 (UTC)