Talk:Elections in China
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This article needs updating, since it was compiled in 2019. Sources are outdated too. Senolatzo (talk) 16:43, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
Requested move 3 February 2017
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The result of the move request was: moved. (non-admin closure) SkyWarrior 03:03, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
Elections in the People's Republic of China → Elections in China – With the failed attempt to move pages, I propose this page to move with the corresponding Wikipedia article "China" 2607:FEA8:61F:F0AB:E5A9:7A49:1374:ED03 (talk) 23:28, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
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- Support It is China. int21h (talk · contribs · email) 01:58, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- Support move. As of now, the country's article is titled China; also, the common name for the country is China. It makes no sense to use the full form in the title unless necessary. ONR (talk) 09:02, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- Support per nom; articles should match the country article name. Timrollpickering 09:03, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- Support per China. Number 57 12:52, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
- Support The country is called China. It is almost unanimously recognised as China. Our article is titled China. WP:COMMONNAME. AusLondonder (talk) 04:22, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
Discussion
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"three ups and three downs"
editThough explained, this process is not described clearly at all. What does it mean that a "group of electors" is given the published list of initial candidates for discussion? Who is this "group of electors"? And why would the committee meeting of these "group of electors" strike any names? This is all very confusing. In most democracies, party nominees are decided by party primaries or conventions of each party. There are sometimes signature requirements to get on a primary ballot, or statements of support from party groups at a party convention. Sometimes there is a nominal fee attached. But what does it mean that "The views of different elector groups and the discussions at the committee meeting are then conveyed to voters, and their views are sought"? And for all intents and purposes, since the CPC is the only game in town, why do these "group of electors/voters" have any say over whether an non-party/independent candidates get on the ballot? Isn't this "group of electors" essentially a local CPC party conference? Please, someone reword this section on local people's congresses to make this make sense. --Criticalthinker (talk) 10:08, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, figured out one thing: For "Cities not divided into districts" the term district relates to the specific administrative city-governed district (市辖区). It would seem that the subdivision of county-level cities covers literally all but one other city not divided into districts. Perhaps that would be a better term to use. BTW, does ANYONE have any kind of answers or explanation to my first set of questions? The "three ups, three downs" process is not at all clear as currently written and it'd be nice to have sources for this process if even it's informal. --Criticalthinker (talk) 07:25, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
Another question I have is what system of election is used for the local people's congresses? Is it done by plurality-at-large/block voting? Is it proportional representation? First-past-the-post? Providing an real-life example of a direct election in China would do a lot to clear up what is generally unclear about this article.--Criticalthinker (talk) 06:01, 15 February 2021 (UTC)
- Figured it out for myself. --Criticalthinker (talk) 07:57, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
Are not Free and Fair
editCan we clearly state that elections in china as of 2022 are not Free and Fair? AXONOV (talk) ⚑ 12:18, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
- Isn't that a completely subjective metric? Freedom and Fairness aren't real things, they're ideas, and when you claim China has less fair elections than, for example, the US, you do this based off your notion of freedom. Both the United States and China have indirect elections, and both have two main factions, the republican and democratic parties, while China has the two main factions of the cpc: the tsinghua and shanghai cliques, both have high levels of corruption, one big example in the US is Gerrymandering. What is freedom in an electoral/political sense? It seems to me like an arbitrary way to label someone as "the other", which isn't really the point of wikipedia, that strives to show an unbiased point of view. 2804:431:8B12:5801:490C:57B7:2A10:D8CF (talk) 19:07, 27 August 2023 (UTC)
This article is a joke
editThis article is literally just anti-Chinese propaganda. It doesn’t matter if one agrees or disagrees with China, this article just repeats over and over how the CCP controls everything. Each section says the same thing in different words. There is literally no valuable information provided other than detailed criticism. It’s laughable. Andrew Z. Colvin • Talk 11:51, 6 February 2025 (UTC)