Talk:Day6

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (your reason here) --180.191.131.212 (talk) 03:46, 12 September 2015 (UTC) it contains FACTS, it's just that day6 is a new group and many changes has to be done for it to fully describe what Day6 is and its history

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (your reason here) --68.146.184.28 (talk) 04:00, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

NO STOP THEYRE A NEW GROUP PLS WIKI I HAVENT EVEN DETERMINED MY BIAS' YET...pls

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... it contains all the same information about this group that similar pages about other K-Pop acts have. ay 6 are a newgroup, just released their first single and they are on one of the big companies, JYP. What more would you want for a group at thisstage of their career? --2.228.62.178 (talk) 09:55, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because the group within this page, Day6, they are just debuted, their profile or information are not officially promoted hard by their company because of some reasons. In other words, fans of them are hard to know more about this group. Thus, this page is really needy, neither to let fans know more nor to promote the group. It's definitely a important route to show how talented and lovable Day6 is.119.246.111.149 (talk) 12:11, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because DAY6 is a newly established Korean band with many fans that would benefit from a Wikipedia page with information about them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.180.106.182 (talk) 12:28, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because this page is just like any other Korean band's wiki page, except that they're still new in the industry. Some of their members have had notable presence in the media (e.g. Jaehyung). Considering that the band is still new, there is a lot more that can be added in the days to come. Having it speedily deleted is just ridiculous, how else can this page be expanded then? --NotReallyBlonde (talk) 13:32, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (your reason here) --78.184.69.163 (talk) 13:56, 12 September 2015 (UTC) This article gives enough information about a new and popular group, which continues its activities.

Sources: what does and doesn't count

I thought it would be best just to say this now- Anything from soompi, and allkpop can not be used as a source unless it it talking about an award the group received at an awards show. Since those list usually are very hard to find an allowance was made but every other time those sites are considered unreliable, because on their own websites both have messages in saying they do not guarantee all their information is true. They are therefore considered to be gossip news sites, and using them would be like citing facts from a tabloid magazine.Peachywink (talk) 14:53, 12 September 2015 (UTC)

Maybe for dating rumors and such but they fairly accurately report concert and tour dates. MoTheMintster (talk) 04:53, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

better sources exist for concert dates, so they still aren't considered reliable sources for those circumstances.Peachywink (talk) 08:01, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 September 2015

change jae's name to swegchicken Swegchicken (talk) 18:53, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Not done: Why on earth would we do that Cannolis (talk) 19:14, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Moved from my talkpage

Day6

Hi Dr. K.

Regarding this edit to Day6, I notice that you've removed a large amount of information about the roles of the band members and that you've change the spelling of their names, adding hyphens "-" to all their names and changing some uppercase to lowercase in multi-part names. However, the profiles on the band's official web site [1] doesn't include dashes in names, I can't find any English RS that has their names as you've changed them, and the information about the band members roles (and the band members names) that was in the article before your changes seems to match this article in ThaiPR.net. Your edit summary says "Detecting and correcting multiple RS FAILs", but I don't see any RS that match what you've changed the information to; however it did seem to match what little English source data exists. Can you provide those RS that you used rather than your changes being reverted; thanks. Wikierroneous 07:20, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Hello Wikierroneous. First a few corrections: As you can see from my edit I simply reverted the unsourced table that was in the article and restored information from an earlier version. I did not add any new information.

Also your comment I notice that you've removed a large amount of information about the roles of the band members is unclear. This large amount of information about the roles of the band members was a huge dump of unsourced DOBs and positions which were added by an anonymous IP back in October. Dumping unsourced DOBs and positions in K-pop articles is unsourced BLP information and long-term edit-warring in many K-pop articles and should be reverted on sight.

It has been longstanding consensus in K-pop articles not to use tables. If you doubt that please ask Drmies who participated in those discussions in the past. So another benefit of my edit was the removal of the table, which in any case contained unsourced DOBs and positions and had to be deleted.

You are proposing to use a new spelling for the names: I have no objection to that. But I reiterate that I simply restored an earlier version of the names and did not add any new ones of my own while reverting unsourced DOBs and positions which were added by an anonymous IP back in October. Also please check my edit as compared to an edit back in October. You will notice that there was no change whatsoever in the Korean names' orthography by me.

You say: Your edit summary says "Detecting and correcting multiple RS FAILs", but I don't see any RS that match what you've changed the information to; I hope you realise that when one mentions "RS failure", when reverting information in an article, it is in regards to the information being removed; i.e. the unsourced dates of birth and positions and not the original text of the article being reverted to which does not have the unsourced information.

You say information about the band members roles (and the band members names) that was in the article before your changes seems to match this article in ThaiPR.net: The information I removed was unsouced DOBs and positions, not only positions. The source you found "ThaiPR.net" for the positions looks like a PR agency and as such it is unreliable. Also I cannot see any positions in the link you provided.

You say Can you provide those RS that you used rather than your changes being reverted; thanks First, you cannot revert my "changes" in plural, because as I have explained I reverted unsourced DOBs and positions, in addition to restoring a former version of the names. I hope you are not planning to restore unsouced DOBs and positions. As I mentioned previously you are free to change the spelling of the names but that would not constitute my changes being reverted because, as I explained multiple times now, the changes were not mine to begin with. If you are planning to add positions based on the PR firm in Thailand I suggest you seek consensus first because it does not look like a reliable source to me.

I hope that helps. Dr. K. 15:21, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Yes. We should be very wary of having Wikipedia articles turn into copies of SM Entertainment's official bios. Drmies (talk) 21:09, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

@Drmies: I don't know the WP policy that says don't trust the self-published site to determine spelling of their own names or their birth dates, opting instead to rely on the unsourced spelling from some unidentified earlier Wikipedian. Please point me to it so I can inform myself on that bizarre policy. Wikierroneous 01:32, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Hi @Dr.K.: You say: As you can see from my edit I simply reverted the unsourced table; except I can't see that from your edit. I generally expect a reversion edit to look something like this or this where the edit summary indicates that it reverted something and what particular edit it reverted, not just a diff (your edit) that says it used to look like this… and now it looks like this… because "QUALITYCONTROL … Quality Assurance … Detecting and correcting". If your edit summary pointed to a particular edit or group of edits then other editors would have some idea what you were doing with your edit. You refer to positions which were added by an anonymous IP…; while IP edits certainly tend to be vandalism more often than non-IP edits, WP consensus is to permit IP editing, so the fact that something is done by an IP simply means it should be scrutinized harder, not that it should be automatically reverted without any investigation. And yes, unsourced info in a BLP is more susceptible to speedy reversion, but I don't know of anything in policy that states that the isn't for use in BLP articles (plus of course a boy-band isn't a Person) (although obviously anything potentially libelous or harmful, in any kind of article, should be immediately removed); however, not being bothering to look at a boy-band's official site, listed in the article, to try to verify such otherwise meaningless, inconsequential, insignificant information as DOB isn't WP's policy either (at least to my knowledge). You mention longstanding consensus in K-pop articles; personally I don't even know what K-pop is (I assume Kiddy popular music). I got to this article a while ago by following a stream of widespread vandalism by a vandalism only editor and, once I reverted some here, it was on my watchlist, which meant that the daily vandalism (thus its current semi-protection status) eventually lead to me skimming some of the article about a topic I could care less about. As for "K-pop" consensus, I believe there's WP policy somewhere that says that sub-group consensus doesn't replace WP wide standards, and tables are generally standard across WP, where useful; so claims about sub-group agreements aren't particularly important in this situation. One thing's for certain, I'm not going to go hunting for such claimed agreements (although I would have taken a minute to read what was said in such a WikiProject discussion had a link to one been provided). please ask Drmies… if I wanted to waste my time with social media I'd join fbook or some other useless endeavour to spend hours each day going back and forth talking to people I don't know, and never will, about things I don't care about. You are proposing to use a new spelling; you are mistaken, you changed the spelling (whether by reversion or otherwise) and therefore you have some responsibility for what you've changed things to. I saw unsourced changes with a questionable edit summary so I naturally looked at their official source which provided English spellings of their names (which, perhaps not so coincidentally, matches the other English sources) and not what the latest change was. The WP policy against first-party/self-published sources doesn't generally apply to basic biographical information (DOB, name spelling, etc) and, if there were a discrepancy between it and reliable third-party sources then that would actually be something that should probably be in any WP article… “So-and-so says they were born on such-and-such but XYZ newspaper and QRS media report that they were actually born on this-and-that date”. I hope you realise that when one mentions "RS failure", when reverting information in an article; again, if the edit summary indicated that an edit was a reversion, other editors would at least know it was a reversion; the rest was spoken to above. You mention "ThaiPR.net" for the positions looks like a PR agency and as such it is unreliable; if you see anything in the WP article that constitutes an English WP:RS for this Korean band, other than the Billboard:‘Top World Album Charts’ which just lists "#2 - The Day (EP) - DAY6", then please point it out to me and perhaps I'll take the time to read it. As for Also I cannot see any positions in the link you provided., you might need to upgrade your web browser if your version of the article in ThaiPR.net doesn't contain a fourth paragraph that reads: “ DAY6 consists of Sungjin - leader, main vocalist and guitarist; Jae - a Korean-American member, guitarist, vocalist, rapper; Junhyeok - keyboardist, vocalist; Young K - bassist, rapper, vocalist; Wonpil - synthesizer, vocalist; and Dowoon - drummer. ” It is, of course, most unfortunate that this entire conversation, which has nothing whatsoever to do with the Day6 Wikipedia article, has occurred in the Article Talk space rather than the User Talk page where it belonged; but I won't be so childish as to cut & paste it to there. I'll undo your unsourced apparent misspelling of the names and add the references to their official website & the ThaiPR article for the band positions listed (in a table format only because that seems the most suitable for the information in this case). Cheers — Wikierroneous 01:32, 30 November 2015 (UTC) P.S. Regardless, cool user page photos… Have a nice day!

It is, of course, most unfortunate that this entire conversation, which has nothing whatsoever to do with the Day6 Wikipedia article, has occurred in the Article Talk space rather than the User Talk page where it belonged; but I won't be so childish as to cut & paste it to there. Please leave out the personal attacks and read the very relevant information I wrote above more carefully including the information that no tables should be used in K-pop articles. There has been consensus to not add tables to K-pop articles and you did not heed my advice and added a table to this article with all kinds of trivial information and no surprise you got reverted. Until you gain consensus you use this talkpage and you don't edit-war by adding tables to articles with trivial information. This conversation is very well-placed here. Dr. K. 01:51, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 13 January 2016

Im Junhyeok is not from Long Beach, California, but Park Jaehyung is. Somehow, this detail was fairly recently switched from Jae's biography to Junhyeok's. Marionbeary (talk) 06:33, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. --allthefoxes ^(Talk) 22:54, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Jae lived in Long Beach for most of his life but he is originally from Buenos Aires, Argentina. He was born there and lived there until he was 5 years old. Ssiiempree (talk) 01:26, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

References

Semi-protected edit request on 22 March 2016

I would like to link the name Young K to the corresponding wikipedia page, so as to provide easier access.

Sunday Mornings 19:37, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Done clpo13_(talk) 22:50, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

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Where are the MVs infos?

Someone could please add a "music videos" box under Filmography? ~SolsticePrince 16:20, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi, the MV section is included in Day6 discography. Abdotorg (talk) 19:00, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

DAY6 vs Day6

I see both Day6 and DAY6 within the same article and the inconsistency is apparent. Is this something that we can perhaps standardize across all of the DAY6-related pages?

I'm assuming based on this, it would have to be 'Day6' that will be used throughout, and in the lead we'd need to write, "Day6, stylized as DAY6, is a ..."?

Same case with Every Day6 vs Every DAY6. --SwegChicken (talk) 09:47, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

You are correct. Fans are being pedantic with their usage in all caps. We go by WP:MOSTM for all article names. Evaders99 (talk) 05:33, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

day6

Hey What if the 'this page is protected to prevent vandalisme' is change to other options Because I wanted to add a few new Info's but I can't Its kind of not helping since I want to add something to improve that page What if You change it to ask you a few terms and condition to edit the page Then you can verify whether it is for vandalisms or not That would much more helping

Piripiripiripiri (talk) 08:14, 8 July 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 July 2017

I have managed to create a page for former member of day 6 Junhyeok VioletGuile (talk) 00:41, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 00:49, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 April 2018

SURISE to SUNRISE Redelp (talk) 05:59, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done Waddie96 (talk) 11:22, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Sungjin, Wonpil and Dowoon

Has anyone considered making Wikipedia pages for Sungjin, Wonpil and Dowoon? It'll be nice if they all had one. Myghty6 (talk) 15:49, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 5 November 2019

Can someone create at least a non-existent link for the other members? Chisaw5 (talk) 09:11, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

 Note: This article is no longer Semi-Protected, so you can now edit the article yourself, but please ensure that any additions are properly sourced, to reliable sources and you maintain a neutral point of view - Arjayay (talk) 10:51, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

DAY6 Initialism

Is DAY6 an initialism? - otherwise this is incorrect form for English standards per WP:MOSTM and the article text should match the title. Evaders99 (talk) 22:35, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 January 2022

"Day6 past member: Jae, junhyeok to Day6 past member: Jae (temporary), Junhyeok" Rhin92 (talk) 00:03, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. - FlightTime (open channel) 00:06, 3 January 2022 (UTC)