Talk:Chung Ha
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On 29 November 2024, it was proposed that this article be moved from Chungha to Chung Ha. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Requested move 6 August 2019
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 07:47, 13 August 2019 (UTC)
Chungha (singer) → Chungha – This page is currently disambiguated because her name in Korean, 청하, can also be romanized as "Cheongha". However, this is the English Wikipedia, and if you look at the Cheongha page she is the only one who romanizes 청하 as "Chungha". Thus, there isn't a need to disambiguate it. DanielleTH (Say hi!) 02:25, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- Support per nom. She is also the only entry on that dab page with an actual article. PC78 (talk) 10:21, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- Support easily primary topic for "Chungha", Chungha was originally a redirect to Cheongju (beverage) for apparently no reason. Snowflake91 (talk) 14:49, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Makes no sense to use disambiguation when there’s only one article even on the disambiguation article. Alex (talk) 19:57, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
Rapping
editChungha has released rap and hip hop singles, and has a compilation of her rapping. She has songs labelled as rap songs, proving that she has rapped countless times in I.O.I and her solo career, and therefore should and can be listed. Coolbruh123 (talk) 22:14, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
- Im waiting Coolbruh123 (talk) 16:32, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
- Support as she has released rap singles and a renown rapper Coolbruh123 (talk) 16:35, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose User:Coolbruh123, you haven't verified your edit with a reliable source and when people undid you accordingly, you called them "COCKEYE [sic] CUNTS." I guess if you figured that was the way to get what you wanted, well, let me be the first to tell you that it wasn't.
- See the reliable sources policy for how to get "rapper" added. Saying "She has songs labelled as rap songs, proving that she has rapped countless times" and calling her "a renown [sic] rapper" isn't how the policy works. "She has songs labelled as rap songs?" She does? Where? Post the link and if it's a reliable source, you're probably good to go. If, as I suspect, the main reason you're trying to add this is because you listened to some of her songs and decided she was rapping, don't bother. Fans of musicians have done so much damage to the genre sections on artists' information boxes that it's simply not possible to get a genre added without also having a reliable source. Repeat: read the reliable sources policy so you can learn how to make your edit stick. 2600:1700:B7A1:9A30:B466:5B4A:9791:391B (talk) 21:46, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
- Oppose until a reliable source is presented describing her as a rapper; suppport once that source has been identified and added to the article. That's how it works. GirthSummit (blether) 22:07, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
- Comment - This is the best I can do for an English language citation search. She told Billboard [1] she considered herself a “half-rapper, mostly dancer,” in I.O.I. Does this mean she was a rapper in the group, as she does not call herself a vocalist or singer? And KBS World [2] said she showed off her rap skills on Yu Huiyeol's Sketchbook, and said "it's not easy to see her rap". Does this indicate that she raps, but rarely?--Bonnielou2013 (talk) 16:27, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
"Endorsements and promotions"
editWhats the point of this section? To list every single promotional deal she signed, without mentioning why is this important for her career / brand / anyone? Purely promotional stuff, sourced or not. This is an encylopedia after all, and not a "list of companies Chungha has modeled for". Snowflake91 (talk) 12:49, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
- I agree. Unless the deal has any significance I don’t see why it’s worth mentioning. I’ll mention BTS here because Coolbruh123 recently went to remove information from there, citing things which were said in summaries on this article. BTS bring in a LOT of tourism and revenue for the country as stated in the article, yet the information in Chunghas article didn’t state anything similar, it just seems a list of deals she’s had which isn’t of use to an encyclopaedia. Alex (talk) 14:03, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
"Kim Chung-ha" legal name or pseudonym?
editThe article implies that her legal name is "Kim Chung-ha" but the prose makes no reference to her changing her legal name. Do we have any sources that reflect that she legally changed her name to "Kim Chung-ha" or is it just a pseudonym/stage name?
I'll search myself later today but if I don't find anything supporting that she actually changed her name I'll adjust the article's lead accordingly. RachelTensions (talk) 22:19, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- Pinging @Mikikooo @EsmeKraz as frequent article contributors RachelTensions (talk) 22:22, 8 November 2024 (UTC)
- FYA, the latter ping is blocked for WP:SOCK. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 07:53, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- From my understanding, she mentioned her birth name is "Kim Chan-mi" in Running Man episode 457 before, as for whether, she mentions this in other television appearances is unclear to me. IMO, I don't think everyone of us would be able to find out on whether she did indeed legally changed her name unless there are reputable news sources that explicitly stated such like quoting her words. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 08:12, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 29 November 2024
edit- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Bobby Cohn (talk) 15:43, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
Chungha → Chung Ha – WP:COMMONNAME: subject is widely referred to as "Chung Ha", not "Chungha", in English-language reliable sources:
- Billboard
- The Korea Herald
- NME
- Rolling Stone
- USA Today
- Grammy.com
- Forbes
- WWD
- Vogue Singapore
- Sports Chosun
- Philippine Daily Inquirer
- The Straits Times
- Consequence
- SG Magazine
- SBS News
- Teen Vogue
- Nylon Magazine
- Interview Magazine
- Cosmopolitan
- Allure
- Rolling Stone Australia
- W Magazine
- The Korea Times
- PBS Newshour
Additionally, separating the syllables by a space seems to be the subject's personal preference (WP:KOREANNAME):
- Official Spotify artist page
- Official X profile
- Official Instagram profile
- Official Facebook profile
- Official Youtube profile RachelTensions (talk) 15:13, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom, both common name and personal preference support seefooddiet (talk) 22:17, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Theparties (talk) 03:00, 1 December 2024 (UTC)