Talk:Chicken nugget

Obit

According to FNC, the guy who invented chicken nuggets was a food science professor at some university in the northeast[ern US]. Something Baker. He died on 15 Mar. 2006. If they repeat the blurb again, I'll fill in more details here. Until a citable source (not that I'm calling FNC "unreliable" just I have no idea how to cite a cable news show according to White!) can be found, I'd say to keep it out of the article tho... Tomer^talk 07:17, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

OK, the guy's name seems to have been Dr. Robert Carl Baker (should be added to Robert Baker if an article about him is created), and he was an Animal Science professor at Cornell University. Here are some relevant texts with their associated links (some more relevant to Dr. Baker than to chicken nuggets per se): chicken nugget chicken nugget chicken nugget chicken ngget chcken nugget chicken nugget chicken nugget chicken nugget.

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[this one I had to get from google's cache:]

• 'BarbecueChicken' Bob Baker Inducted into Poultry Hall of Fame

Robert C. Baker '43 was inducted into the American Poultry Hall of Fame in Atlanta, Georgia, at an International Poultry Exposition this past January. His picture and details of his accomplishments in the field of poultry science will be placed in the Hall of Fame building at the University of Maryland.

Baker was on the faculty in the College of Agriculture and Life Sciences for 40 years. He taught seven courses and published 290 scientific papers. He developed 47 new poultry meat and egg products, including chicken and turkey hot dogs, cold cuts of various kinds, and chicken nuggets. All of these products are on the market today. During his career, Baker traveled to 24 countries to work with food companies in developing new poultry meat and egg products.

Baker may be best known, though, for the Cornell Barbecue Sauce he developed for chicken.[4] (May 2004, Cornell University's College of Agriculture and Life Sciences newsletter) Tomer^talk 07:38, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Found something. [5]. Google News results --Rory096 08:09, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

The L.A. Times has an obit [6], as does Cornell's News Service [7]. I think this quote from Baker is interesting: "When the nuggets came out in the 1950s, they weren't too popular." btm _talk 06:18, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Composition section

The composition section is in need of some improvement -- I've marked some spots. It's also possibly US centric when speaking of food packaging laws. Since the claim was unsourced, I couldn't see if the source was something referring to US or more international food regulations. — Northgrove 10:24, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Introduction needs to be expanded to reflect more variety of sources -- both in restaurants and grocery stores. PUgalde (talk) 20:27, 24 February 2018 (UTC) Davidajeanne (talk) 20:29, 24 February 2018 (UTC) Xyz789abc123 (talk) 20:31, 24 February 2018 (UTC)Xyz789abc123

Health of chicken nuggets

"Chicken nuggets are generally regarded as a fatty, unhealthy food. Nutritionists agree that the dish is one of the prime reasons that obesity and health problems are such a big problem in countries like the United States, especially in children."

This should be deleted -- there's little concrete evidence that this is the case, and the cited reference does not reinforce the claim.

Cwage (talk) 17:30, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

What he said! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.2.158.119 (talk) 06:30, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

I agree also, so I have removed it. Deli nk (talk) 11:55, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Can there be some information about the "vegetarian" option of chicken nuggets? I know it might not be considered this same topic, but there are also grilled chicken nuggets as well that could refute the "unhealthy" stigma in this artcle? Lauramt1023 (talk) 19:23, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

We don't think it is balanced as it just reflects the unhealthy options, not the organic options and those made with real chicken meat, not just connective tissue and fat. PUgalde (talk) 20:28, 24 February 2018 (UTC)Davidajeanne (talk) 20:29, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Google search

Search for nuggets on google.

http://www.google.se/webhp?hl=en#hl=en&source=hp&q=chicken+nuggets&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=chicken+nuggets&fp=bc7de3bb8679d07f

Read the text under the first wikipedia link named Chicken nuggets: "A obese fat man is generally a piece of chicken breaded or battered, then cooked, grilled, or fried."

What to do now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DeKvittar (talk • contribs) 18:49, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Duckware, 18 September 2010

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In the US, the USDA in their 'Food Standards and Labeling Policy Book' (http://www.fsis.usda.gov/OPPDE/larc/Policies/Labeling_Policy_Book_082005.pdf) defines a "nugget" to be "irregularly shaped, usually bite-sized meat and/or poultry products which are usually breaded and deep fat fried and intended to be used as finger foods". According to the USDA, "nuggets" MAY be formed from chopped or formed meat, but that requires the 'nugget' term to be qualified, as in "Chicken Nugget, Chopped and Formed" or "Breaded Nugget-Shaped Chicken Patties". So any company selling "nuggets" in the US must conform to this labeling standard.

Duckware (talk) 19:43, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Not done: Welcome. That's all very interesting, but what is your request? Please provide the text you want to add with a 'please change X to Y' degree of detail and include relaible sources to support any factual claims. Thanks, Celestra (talk) 01:31, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

removed reference

I removed the reference to http://www.max.se/food.aspx?page=prodinfo&all=true&showparts=1056 The link doesn't work anymore as expected and now looks suspiciously like spam. (I tried to find what it was supposed to link to but Swedish is, well... Swedish to me) Marc amsterdam (talk) 18:28, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

Source

Please add:

• The Father of the Chicken Nugget-Robert C. Baker was a poultry savant. But his contribution to fast food has been erased from the history books slate.com 84.152.42.143 (talk) 23:14, 28 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 24 April 2013

Chick-fil-A was the first chain restaurant to begin serving chicken nuggets; in 1982. Their nuggets are not processed but are pieces of chicken breast that were originally served as samples to potential customers. http://www.chick-fil-a.com/Press/Timeline

207.63.242.246 (talk) 18:15, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The company's own website is not a reliable source for information that claims it is the "first" to do something. —KuyaBriBri^Talk 19:42, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

R. Haecker's

Does R. Haecker's actually exist? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.230.244.219 (talk) 01:56, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

It doesn't seem to. :/ VeryCrocker (talk) 07:59, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 April 2015

Now a days, chicken nuggets are considered the 'holy food'.

Nutshell is weird-chicken is bae (talk) 01:35, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Kharkiv07^Talk 01:48, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Part of history translation

This is what I got from the history. I corrected a few mistakes my computer made, and also added a bit more, in bold. Used Chrome that while.

The chicken nugget was invented in the 1950s by Robert C. Baker, a professor of food science at Cornell University, New York and published it as academic work without patent. 'Since then Dr. Baker was allowed to develop chicken nuggets any form. The recipe for McDonald's for Chicken McNuggets was created on request by Tyson Foods in 1979 and the product went on sale the following year.

A judgment in 2003 in a lawsuit against McDonald's by a group of 38 obese adolescents cataloged ingredients in the Chicken McNugget.

Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 08:20, 27 November 2015 (UTC)

Some useful websites... Cross them out and say "crossed out" if you think they are unreliable sources.

• http://www.businessinsider.com/the-history-of-the-chicken-nugget-robert-baker-2012-12

Semi-protected edit request on 14 April 2016

Remove the paragraph on fecal contamination as it has no specific relevance to chicken nuggets. The referenced sources are about chicken production in general and do not refer to chicken nuggets. 88.96.79.118 (talk) 15:49, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

 Done I concur. --QEDK (T ☕ C) 19:41, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 November 2016

131.156.97.226 (talk) 20:10, 7 November 2016 (UTC) chicken nuggets have horse crap in them

 Not done Vandalism. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:32, 7 November 2016 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2016

163.248.244.9 (talk) 18:35, 16 November 2016 (UTC)I would like to make it so I can add some amazing recipes.

 Not done This is not the right page to request additional user rights.
Furthermore, Wikipedia is not a "how-to" guide and does not normally include recipes. - Arjayay (talk) 18:43, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Um

Is this an encyclopedia article or a fast food ad? JFC.73.94.178.220 (talk) 00:01, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Both.

GamingatMinecraft (talk) 22:50, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Reference Problem

The article states the following: "Chicken nuggets are generally regarded as a fatty, unhealthy food. A study published in the American Journal of Medicine analyzed the composition of chicken nuggets from 2 different American fast food chains. The study found that less than half of the material was skeletal muscle, with fat occurring in equal or greater quantities. Other components included epithelial tissue, bone, nervous tissue, and connective tissue. The authors concluded that "Chicken nuggets are mostly fat, and their name is a misnomer."[8]"

The problem is that this is really sketchy evidence. First this study only tested two chains out of how ever many there are in the world, meaning that the information (Which is only presented from one alleged source) clearly isn't representative of the whole, right there. Secondly, one single reference isn't enough to properly substantiate a claim, in order to meet neutrality policy requirements, as a singe-source may or may not be politically motivated, etc. I therefore recommend inserting the citation needed tag or else removing the entire section, pending new, more developed, and better proper references for this section. 108.201.29.108 (talk) 07:23, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Partly done: Requested cites provided. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:27, 29 October 2017 (UTC)

Revert edits from 28 July 2017‎ ("McDonald's Chicken Nuggets" section)

Entire section is unnecessary and looks like product placement. Editor does not seem to know what they are doing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.102.148.183 (talk • contribs)

 Done - I agree that was promoting one brand and clearly should not have been above the History section - Arjayay (talk) 14:10, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Possible Changes

I was planning on making a couple of changes, such as adding nutritional values, manufacturing practices, and differentiating between fast food and homemade chicken nuggets. I would also like to add a small pop-culture section to this article in which to add the world record. Please let me know if you have any issues. Adlewhite (talk) 00:39, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

• Hi Melcous, Surachit, I was wondering if you could expand on your reasons for removing the content that was added to the article. I'm going to leave a few notes myself, but I think that it would be valuable to have your input as well. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:56, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
• Here is my input on the removals:

  • Be careful about including things that would be seen as off-topic, detailed, or too miscellaneous for Wikipedia's purposes. An example of content that would be seen as too detailed would be the caloric intake and nutritional information content. The overall caloric intake needs would be seen as a bit off-topic and too detailed for an article about chicken nuggets, as there's already an article on that and it's really not needed to understand the basic gist that chicken nuggets can be unhealthy. The same thing goes for the nuggets' nutritional info - although an additional part of that would be that if we include the nutritional info for all of the major brands/companies throughout the world, it would quickly get unwieldy. Another example would be the section on how nuggets are made. A good portion of the information on how chickens are prepared and slaughtered should already be in the chicken farming article - the only portion that could really be included is the last paragraph that deals specifically with how nuggets are formed.
  • With the pop culture section, be very careful about what is added and how it's sourced. In one case Wikipedia is used as a source, however as anyone can edit the site Wikipedia cannot be used as a source - not even for itself. We also need to be careful that what is added is content that has lasting notability. This means that things that only got a brief flurry of coverage, like a fan passing out nuggets or a tweet, will likely not be considered major enough to include on Wikipedia. Appearances in films can be added as long as it's something major within the film or TV series and there's coverage for this in independent, reliable sources. Major events like world records are typically things that should be added. There's a bit on this here and a funny comic that highlights what to avoid can be seen here.
  • Something else that I noted was that some of the changes removed existing sourcing and content, as in the case of the world's largest chicken nugget. Be careful about this. Previously existing content doesn't always have to remain in an article, but there should be a good reason for its removal.

I hope that this gives a good overview of why the content may have been removed. I can give more in-depth detail if needed. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:42, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

That pretty much sums up why I made my revision. A lot of that content could be added back, it was just a little too in-depth. The article really does need a "Manufacturing" section, IMO. Maybe put a "Further information: Poultry farming at the top, a quick summary of chicken farming/processing in general, and then the specific chicken nugget information.

As a side note, if you're looking for things to add to the "Manufacturing" section, I think the "pink slime" photo that went viral a few years ago is relevant. It got a lot of mainstream coverage, which also talks about nugget production: NBC News, Time magazine, NPR, CNET, CNBC.

Finally, it could just be me, but the inclusion of the images in the "Manufacturing" section struck me as not being WP:NPOV. I can tell they were added in good faith, and they'd be perfectly fine in a "Poultry farming" or "Chicken processing" article, but how relevant are they to chicken nuggets specifically? These are the kinds of images that animal rights and vegan activists often use, it kind of paints the subject in a negative light to devote so much focus on them when they aren't directly relevant. –Surachit (talk) 19:42, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Shalor (Wiki Ed), my reasons were similar. As well as issues pointed about content that would already be covered on other pages (manufacturing process for chicken generally and daily calorific intake guidelines) and content that is unsourced, something else to avoid is content that has a point of view and is localised. So, for example, the added content said that McDonalds chicken nuggets were "enjoyed throughout America" which was both of those things. Melcous (talk) 20:28, 13 February 2018 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this is how this is generally done, but I've reinstated a reduced version of the recently deleted "Manufacturing" section focused on the processes unique to the creation of nuggets. I added the suggested "see also: Poultry Farming" link at the top. I may slowly add back in some reduced versions of the other deleted sections if this seems like a reasonable approach. Thanks! Stevenarntson (talk) 23:52, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

Possible Edits

WikiID: Lyavari WikiID; Rls13 WikiID: Oarlover14* Structure of the article: Lead section has good background but also includes some information that probably should not be in they lead (i.e vegetarian alternatives). The history is limited and could include more information about the modern-day popularity of chicken nugget, not only history.

Balanced coverage: This article does not seem to be very balanced. There should be more information about nuggets' popularity and less about the debate regarding their nutritional value. There inclusion of the world record section also seems irrelevant to the rest of the article. Finally, the concept of "chicken nuggets" leans towards a very McDonalds base and does not mention other foreign restaurants or are not linked to proper sources.

Neutral Coverage: The coverage is not perfectly neutral, but chicken nuggets are pretty objectively unhealthy so not a huge problem. But there is a small bias towards "fast food" versions of chicken nuggets, only includes one picture of a "home-baked" version. There are no other indications that chicken nuggets exist outside of restaurants.

Reliable sources: Some quality sources like the American Journal of Medicine and Cornell, but also some less reputable sources like "http://www.nationalchickencouncil.org/." All the links work, and the article is pretty well cited (albeit at times to bad sources). There are also some unreliable sources that state facts but do not have sources within the articles to back it up (Like the Obituary of the founder).

Tabhernandez (talk) 19:30, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Reliable sources

--Third reference is from Quorn company (potential bias) --The links do work --NBC, Food Network are not very reliable --Reliable source??: https://www.ams.usda.gov/sites/default/files/media/CID%20Chicken%20Nuggets%2C%20Fingers%2C%20Strips%2C%20Fritters%2C%20and%20Patties%2C%20Fully%20Cooked%2C%20Individually%20Frozen.pdf Celsisa (talk) 20:27, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

We reviewed the sources and they seem reliable. The links work. PUgalde (talk) 20:30, 24 February 2018 (UTC)Davidajeanne (talk) 20:30, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

More balanced coverage?

Balanced coverage: - More information about fast food, how chicken nuggets are made - Locations that chicken nuggets are sold. (Grocery Stores) - Sales & Revenue of chicken nuggets - Consumer profile Sbodlovich1 (talk) 20:27, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Point of View Coverage

The article is generally neutral. It has a few bias because it only mentions specific brands and franchises, while leaving out other smaller and less popular brands. Li.andy (talk) 20:28, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Intertwine Article Structure Review

Structure - The lead section is too short, and should be more detailed. - A section on consumers and merchants may be a good idea. - A section on cultural significance may also be a good idea. Ethan Della Rocca (talk) 20:29, 24 February 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 11 July 2018

Add common list of ingredients in popular chicken nuggets in american culture Beatmymeattothesoundofyeet (talk) 03:12, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 04:56, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

Tyson - Keystone Foods

Change Tyson Foods to Keystone Foods (now Tyson Foods). 2601:647:CB02:5034:8C2E:4F4D:5EE:62ED (talk) 16:56, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

 Not done. The source states Tyson, which had no relation to Keystone in 1979. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 18:45, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

Change Tyson to Keystone Foods. The McNugget article says Keystone and it has two references, including an official McDonald's reference. The source in this article is probably wrong because Tyson acquired Keystone. 2601:647:CB02:5034:5C3D:1FF2:4857:42BD (talk) 18:30, 17 July 2019 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 January 2020

I would like to request a section stating that some people have chicken nuggets as their favorite food please. ( A girl ate only chicken nuggets for many years.) Nono2707 (talk) 18:39, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

This would need some good sources, I think it's possible some scholarly sources (check Pubmed for example) will have written about picky eaters and nuggets. – Thjarkur (talk) 20:07, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

"Chicken nugget (word)" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Chicken nugget (word). Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 11:39, 2 February 2020 (UTC)

Improving the wording in the "History" section

The third sentence in the History section currently reads "Two problems the meat industry was facing at the time were being able to clump ground meat without a skin and producing a batter coating that could be both deep fried and frozen without becoming detached."

I'd like to change it to this: "The meat industry faced two problems: how to clump ground meat without a skin, and how to produce a batter coating that could be both deep-fried and frozen without becoming detached."

How does that sound?

Spanobo (talk) 19:52, 13 November 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2021

Lk050210 (talk) 20:06, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

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Not actually an edit request. Closed. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:18, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

Nuggets should be described "BASED"

To represent chicken nuggets being cool and based. GamingatMinecraft (talk) 22:50, 14 July 2021 (UTC)

Change "whom" to "who"

Change whom to who in the following "a movie about a grade school child whom eats a chicken nugget". The verb is "eats" so the subject should be "who", i.e. "who eats". In the same sentence, change "in which" to "that" in the following "infected with a virus in which turns prepubescent children into zombies".

 Fixed. Thanks. –CWenger (^ • @) 19:15, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 May 2022

Samuelmrda (talk) 15:56, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

chicken nuggets ar every healty

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. --The Tips of Apmh 16:01, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Largest Chicken Nugget Controversy

The Guinness Book of World Records claims the the largest chicken nugget was created by Nick DiGiovanni and Lynn Davis on November 23, 2021. Their nugget weighed 46 lb 3.34 oz.

This conflicts with the Empire Kosher Poultry's "largest nugget" claim of 51.1 pounds. JustAnotherLateNight (talk) 03:01, 30 December 2022 (UTC)