Talk:Al Lang Stadium

Name

As a former resident of St Petersburg, I remember people referring to this event center as Al Lang Stadium. There are over 15,900 results in a Boolean Google search of "Al Lang Stadium." That is why I created this re-direct. --Wordy1 23:12, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Someone Needs to Update

The article shouldn't be as depressing as it has been, as the facility has a new tenant- the Tampa Bay Rowdies, a professional soccer team in the NASL. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.78.71.55 (talk) 12:48, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

As a former resident of St Petersburg, I remember people referring to this event center as Al Lang Stadium before the name change to Progress Energy Park. There are over 15,900 results in a Boolean Google search of "Al Lang Stadium," so I created a re-direct to Progress Energy Park from Al Lang Stadium. --Wordy1 23:17, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

Strange article formatting

Something is very wrong with the formatting of this article - notice the list of "edit" buttons along the bottom instead of atop each individual section, and the inability to move pictures up from the bottom of the page. I don't know enough about wikicode & such to figure out what's going on. Anybody want to give it a shot, pls?... Zeng8r (talk) 00:29, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't have that problem, but displays vary according to browser and monitor. Perhaps it's image stackup, i.e., too many images for too little text. Also, the Infobox is quite long, which can cause strange displays sometimes. As a work-around, I've gallery-formatted two of the images - is this better now? JGHowes ^talk - 03:06, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, that's better - the "edit" links are in the right places. Thanks! Zeng8r (talk) 11:38, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Waterfront Park ≠ Al Lang Field

When doing some research (http://www.sptimes.com/2008/02/10/Rays/St_Petersburg_landmar.shtml), I discovered that Waterfront Park is not another name for Al Lang Field; it's a completely different venue altogether, located about where the parking lot for Al Lang is today. So, when I get some time, I'm going to create a new article for "Waterfront Park (St. Petersburg)" to help differentiate the two. More of a heads-up than anything.... EaglesFanInTampa 02:15, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

recent edits of lead

Yes, I know that Al Lang is a soccer stadium now; I'm a Rowdies Fannie myself from way back. However, it was a baseball park for over half a century, and recent edits seem to be trying to downplay that long history. Along those lines, the lead needs to state that Mayor Al Lang was all about baseball; there are historical photos and plaques, etc. in both Al Lang Stadium and at Tropicana Field honoring him for bringing professional baseball to the city. Saying that he" helped turned the city into a sports destination" is just inaccurate fluff.

Now if somebody wants to carefully fold the two opening paragraphs of the opening into one or tweak the details a bit, that's fine. But let's be sure to keep enough info in there for a good, accurate summary of the article, as per MOS:INTRO. Thanks. Zeng8r (talk) 01:02, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

• This is the only comment I will make and won't continue with this discussion -
• You jump to conclusions rather quickly, and without proper thought. The article had not been updated since July of this year, before I finally did any updating in September. When I got to it, the article appeared dated by at least two years. The organization of it was caught in a time capsule. I don't have any affinity to a team, or the stadium. However, I write to put things into perspective and update the information with clarity. I NEVER, as you claimed, downplayed the long history of Al Lang stadium. In fact, I have been for the last couple of weeks at the front of it trying to make the information as accurate as can be so that there is depth and life. You should carefully read through the history logs and see who actually did what before you come here making nonsensical affirmative statements like the ones above. I take no offense by your comments. But seriously, I already arranged and heavily expanded the bulk of the information in the content. There is no need from a writer's or reader's point of view to bombard the introduction with secondary facts that are already explained in detail.
• There's always a "critique". If you don't know by now that Al Lang created a foundation for the city of St. Petersberg, as well as Tampa Bay, as a sports destination, then there is nothing else I or anyone can say to you. Cheers and Peace NYCWikiKid (talk) 02:43, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Sports, the history of the Tampa Bay area, and the meeting of the two are actually my personal obsessions, so it's kinda funny to be lectured about Al Lang by somebody who doesn't know how to spell St. Petersburg.

Anyway, you did update some info in the article body, which was good. But as for the lead, you didn't remove any "secondary facts", neither this last time nor in your earlier edits. There weren't many to remove; it was already a tightly written summary of the article. All you did (again) was weaken the verbiage, remove the carriage return dividing the lead into two short paragraphs, and replace the phrase "bringing professional baseball to St. Petersburg" (not "St. Petersberg") with the vague and/or inaccurate "sports destination" line. You also removed a reference to a Tampa Bay Times article referring to Al Lang (in the headline!) as "St. Petersburg's Mr. Baseball". That news story clearly explains why baseball should most definitely be specifically mentioned in the lead of an article about a sports facility named after Al Lang. That mention had already been in the intro for a looong time before you took it out. It needs to be there. Zeng8r (talk) 01:49, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

• I said that I won't comment again with regard to the specifics of the writing, and I stay true to that. However, you begin by making such a childish and ridiculous remark. Anyone can clearly write a typo. Everyone does it. Nonetheless, in the article I never made such an error, and I do know how to spell the name of the city as I have been there many times over. For you to latch on to that shows insecurity that you must use to try to give yourself some form of fulfillment. Glad that you have something to hold on to. Thumbs up.

• Within the article you also made an omission of the word "of" before Major League Baseball in a sentence, but I don't use that against you. It's very immature.

• Again, if you don't know what secondary and primary facts are, that is something you should revisit (I genuinely say this in a good way, without sarcasm).

• You claim that there was some "tightly" written article which had some reference in the introduction prior to my contributions. You are very much mistaken. Seriously check - Revision as of 19:16, 18 July 2013, which was done before me (in September). Anyone can read through and see that the article, though lastly updated in July 2013, read like a eulogy from 2010/2011. Other contributors have commented on such. I simply put it to its present form and allowed it to stand on its own.

• I have updated it once more, and to simply come to a compromise, I have integrated some of our lines in the introduction. This should be it for now so we can move on to other things. Cheers NYCWikiKid (talk) 22:13, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

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