Category talk:Airports in the San Francisco Bay Area

Scope

I suggest we broaden the scope of this category to include airfields, private and public, and airstrips too, even if they are not general aviation airfields to include flying fields for remote controlled planes, or any airstrip with a runway longer than 300 feet or something like that to be more illusionist and state this on the category brief that this doesn't necessarily denote that the place is a "real" airport.^MY♥_INchile 23:45, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

I think that would be fine so long as the same criteria apply to the parent and grandparent categories. Otherwise I'd rather be consistent. Stepheng3 (talk) 23:53, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Consistency has been the whole point. First of all, Category:Airports in the San Francisco Bay Area is not the place to talk about it. I see that User:Myheartinchile likes to re-open the debate on new pages when he didn't get the answer he wanted elsewhere. I wish he would accept the advice that Breuner Airfield does not belong on a list of airports. (Many reasons listed before on other talk pages won't be repeated again here.) He found Category:Airfields and others which adequately and appropritately categorize the article. His campaign to get it reclassified as an airport is inappropriate and a waste of everyone's time. Everywhere on Wikipedia, an official airport has an ICAO, IATA and/or (for US airports) FAA code, and it's the minimum standard. Ikluft (talk) 01:17, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

A second point about private airports. It isn't arbitrary to exclude them. On a list that includes the likes of SFO, SJC and OAK, you can stretch it too far down to topics where the available information is too sparse to be relevant in the same context, and where the land owners would prefer not to be bothered by people asking questions. There aren't even any articles about private airports in the Bay Area - and none of them would qualify as notable. There was a case brought to my attention via e-mail months ago where a WP editor became overzealous trying to collect info about an airport in Sonoma County. He visited the property and was asked to leave. He asked me what to do - I told him the people have a right to privacy and their wishes should be respected. Wikipedia is not a paparazzi. Trying to fill out a list of airports doesn't give us an excuse to pursue people who don't want to talk. That was the idea behind the omission of private airports. We as a community should discourage our members from that kind of activity and avoid creating situations that tempt them to step over that line. Ikluft (talk) 01:17, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Well now i see your point and it is one of genuine concern, but i'll have you know i am no stalker and even if i was stalker-gathered information is well original research anyways, the only place i would go to find information on private airports would be, i don't know, county or city records, a library, a website, that sort of thing. you never before stated that the meta category should be consistent and that this was an issue, i would have brought it up. and furthermore there is no standard for the airports category aside from the one you just made up for the bay area one (as far as i know, correct me if i am wrong). cheers.^MY♥_INchile 17:06, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

• See the related note about forum shopping at User talk:Myheartinchile#Forum-shopping for miscategorizing Breuner Airfield as an airport which refers to this talk page. Ikluft (talk) 01:41, 15 August 2008 (UTC)