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Template:Continental Asia in 200 CE

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No transclusions or incoming links. Created in early 2023. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:24, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Please keep , it's part of a series, and it will be used at some point. पाटलिपुत्र (Pataliputra) (talk) 20:04, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. This template is part of a series of over thirty template maps of Continental Asia across different time periods. I know I've seen this one transcluded in an infobox before, early in article development prior to replacement by a newly created more specific map template.
    Our encyclopaedic coverage of circa 200 CE Asia history topics is not yet particularly thorough, and it would be a shame to discard this work just because it's currently unused.
    In general and as a set, I think all templates in this series should be kept whether or not they have any transclusions at the moment. I think my memories of how this template was previously used could be extrapolated to future use cases: templates from this series are transcluded until a more specific map is located or created, if ever. Just because the usage is temporary doesn't mean that it's not useful. Folly Mox (talk) 11:33, 28 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:46, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Mountains of Argentina

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No transclusions or incoming links. This could be converted to a list article if such a list is desired. Created in January 2024. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:13, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Noting that the template's creator Joelkaula has transcluded this navbox into all seventeen applicable bluelinked articles since the nomination. Leaning keep. Folly Mox (talk) 12:16, 29 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗plicit 23:43, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Minebea Mitsumi FC

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Not a useful navbox. One link to a category page; the other two just point back to the main article. DB1729talk 23:33, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:WikiProject Chechnya

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Propose merging Template:WikiProject Chechnya with Template:WikiProject Russia.
It's a task force. It's been one for many years. Task forces are not supposed to have their own WikiProject Banner. 48JCL 19:59, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Merge. This looks relatively easy, at least for a first pass. There are about 300 affected pages, so someone handy with AWB should be able to edit the pages. Ideally, someone should move/rename the relevant categories that are assigned to Chechnya-related articles, but that can happen after the merge. [Update: I have fixed the categories.] – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:31, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Triángulo de Amor Bizarro

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Just two links in the body of this navbox. Not useful for navigation. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:35, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete unless someone creates articles for the band's other albums. I warned the template creator on their talk page four years ago that this template was in danger of deletion as it stands. However, they stopped editing on Wikipedia shortly afterwards, so clearly they have no interest in improving the template. The band do have two other charting albums so there may well be sources out there to create more than two links, but I don't have access to Spanish music publications, so unless someone with access to sources is prepared to take it on, this template should be deleted and recreated without prejudice if further articles are created. Richard3120 (talk) 21:38, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:User Riana Welcome

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No transclusions, and no apparent use for probably ten years or more, if it was ever used. Redundant to other welcome messages. The most recent 13 edits have either been maintenance edits or reverts. Note: this is not a userbox. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:51, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:1966 Central Conference football standings

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more templates or modules. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's talk page or in a deletion review).

The result of the discussion was Withdrawn. Eagles 24/7 (C) 14:43, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No transclusions, documentation, template parameters, or incoming links. The editor who created this template has created dozens of unused templates of this type, including some in the last 24 hours, despite being asked to stop doing so multiple times. These are the oldest ones, created in April 2024. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:24, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. All three of these template are now transcluded on two articles. Jonesey95, can you withdraw this nomination? Also, for future reference, can you clarify what sort of documentation or template parameters you would have liked to have seen? Jweiss11 (talk) 18:52, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Withdrawn. In the future, to avoid these nominations, it would be helpful for you to follow the process steps that I recently suggested on your talk page. As for template parameters, they are an indication that the Template-space page is being used as an actual template rather than as regular wikitext article content repeated on one or more pages. Per guidelines, documentation should be provided for all templates. The documentation explains why the page exists in Template space and where and how it should be used. – Jonesey95 (talk) 22:21, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Jonesey95, thanks for withdrawing. Can you explain what you mean about parameters and by "actual template "? Navbox templates and standings templates like the ones nominated here are static. They don't accept variables to render content conditionally like infobox templates, external link templates, and all the more complicated templates like Template:CFB standings start that lay below these templates. These standings templates are in template form precisely so that they can be repeated on multiple articles. Is this a problem? Jweiss11 (talk) 01:30, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Navbox templates typically take at least one parameter, |state=. Template-space pages that take no parameters are sometimes viewed by editors as "article content" unsuitable for template space. I am not making that argument here. I'll be happy to continue this conversation on your talk page or mine. – Jonesey95 (talk) 01:37, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template or module's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

Template:1949 Ivy Group football standings

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Unused templates with no documentation or sourcing, no template parameters, and no incoming links. Created in 2023. – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:21, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I've never heard of an "Ivy Group". The sources I've seen from this era refer to the "Ivy League". Cbl62 (talk) 19:00, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Southern Football League (Victoria) seasons

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All red links. DB1729talk 11:38, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:North West 200 Circuit

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No useful links. The two blue links point to unrelated subjects. DB1729talk 10:19, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Glass Beach

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For just three links which are already made in multiple places in their respective articles, I don't see much use in this template. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 05:52, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Australia squad 2011 World Women's Handball Championship

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Almost all the entries in this template have been deleted, so as a template it is not useful for linking related articles. LibStar (talk) 04:36, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as not enough links but also, a navbox for a team that placed 24th seems strange. Gonnym (talk) 09:14, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination. Taylor 49 (talk) 15:36, 3 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Deomyinae

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This template is unnecessary as we can always navigate the taxonomy via the taxonomic infoboxes. And now we have to maintain the taxonomy in 3 different places: the infoboxes, the genus articles (which list the species), and navigation templates like this. Why do we need such redundant systems that just create more work? Nosferattus (talk) 04:07, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep. This is a standard navbox that is used in many articles. Clearly useful. – Jonesey95 (talk) 18:44, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete is my preference, as I share concerns about keeping redundant information up-to-date across multiple pages. However, I don't understand why this template was singled out over everything else in Category:Mammal species templates and it's subcategories. Many (but not all) mammal species have navboxes. Very few other organisms have navboxes like mammals do. If I was going to single out one mammal species navbox for deletion it would be {{Murinae (Others)}}. The subfamily Murinae is split across 10 navboxes, why not just make one (massive) navbox for the subfamily? And putting two genera in the "Others" navbox is completely unintuitive for readers when the other navboxes are arranged by parts of the alphabet. Plantdrew (talk) 20:46, 2 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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