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editHi GiantSnowman, can you please tell me why football database is not a reliable source for stats? I cannot find any consensus in WP football that it is any more or less trust worthy than other sites. Especially within the constraints of just using it for UAE President's Cup stats on Kodjo Laba's article considering that Soccerway does not track this competition. Thanks. Rupert1904 (talk) 10:00, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hi Rupert. WP:WPFLINKSNO has details on why FootballDatabase.eu is unreliable. Robby.is.on (talk) 10:07, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Robby. So how should we cite his and other player's statistics in the UAE President's Cup considering Soccerway and Soccerbase do not track this competition? That also goes for the Saudi First Division League, Durand Cup in India, the Malaysia Cup, and I'm sure plenty of other professional competitions too that for one reason or another aren't tracked by these more reliable sites. Rupert1904 (talk) 11:47, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know, I'm afraid. Maybe editors who edit UAE, India, Malaysia football articles frequently have an idea? Robby.is.on (talk) 12:11, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- We should only source stats from reliable sources. If reliable sources don't track it, then we don't need to display them. GiantSnowman 19:32, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Don't agree with that whatsoever. These are still professional leagues and competitions and the stats in these competitions are therefore noteworthy. It just shows that there is a bias on soccerway and other sites to European competitions. Rupert1904 (talk) 10:28, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- WP:Verifiability is non-negotiable. That said, I'm sure there are reliable sources out there that are hard to find for us because they are in Arabic or other non-Latin script languages. Robby.is.on (talk) 11:54, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Agree with Robby - we can't source something to a non-RS just because "it's notable". GiantSnowman 18:42, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- WP:Verifiability is non-negotiable. That said, I'm sure there are reliable sources out there that are hard to find for us because they are in Arabic or other non-Latin script languages. Robby.is.on (talk) 11:54, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Don't agree with that whatsoever. These are still professional leagues and competitions and the stats in these competitions are therefore noteworthy. It just shows that there is a bias on soccerway and other sites to European competitions. Rupert1904 (talk) 10:28, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- We should only source stats from reliable sources. If reliable sources don't track it, then we don't need to display them. GiantSnowman 19:32, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know, I'm afraid. Maybe editors who edit UAE, India, Malaysia football articles frequently have an idea? Robby.is.on (talk) 12:11, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks Robby. So how should we cite his and other player's statistics in the UAE President's Cup considering Soccerway and Soccerbase do not track this competition? That also goes for the Saudi First Division League, Durand Cup in India, the Malaysia Cup, and I'm sure plenty of other professional competitions too that for one reason or another aren't tracked by these more reliable sites. Rupert1904 (talk) 11:47, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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