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Matthieu LeChevalier

Hi. I updated a Wikipedia page for Matthieu_LeChevalier that was just being forwarded to another page. My Ruin. The revised page was up and running for a day and now it is gone. It does not even appear in my history... However you can see a cached version of it. The pages was cited with many reliable sources. Why is it gone? Does it need to be reviewed first? How do I get it back up?

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3O1xNEIF0jUJ:https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Matthieu_LeChevalier+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Special:Contributions/Joey6strings

Thank you, Joey6strings — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joey6strings (talk • contribs) 20:30, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Joey6strings: the article you created was removed by SshibumXZ, with the comment "still doesn't qualify WP:NMUSICIAN". If you want more details, you should ask SshibumXZ. Maproom (talk) 20:43, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

@Joey6strings: hi! Your page on Matthieu LeChevalier hasn't been removed, but redirected to another page viz. My Ruin with this edit of mine, this is so because—at the current moment—Matthieu LeChevalier doesn't meet either Wikipedia's general notability guidelines or Wikipedia's guidelines for musicians; what I'd advise for you to do is to create a draft on the subject and submit it for review if and when you think he meets either WP:GNG or WP:NMUSICIAN. Your stuff about LeChevalier, in its most updated form, can be found at this permanent link, just click on edit and copy the source to draftspace. Have a great one!
Regards, SshibumXZ (Talk) (Contributions). 23:39, 30 August 2018 (UTC); edited 23:41, 30 August 2018 (UTC).

Sidenote — Thanks, Maproom for the ping!
Regards, SshibumXZ (Talk) (Contributions). 23:39, 30 August 2018 (UTC); 23:41, 30 August 2018 (UTC).

Error on the page Asian Paints ltd

On the right hand side summary table , erroneously founders Founders are given as 'Bhupendra Nagrakar,shantam Arora,natu lawda'

while in the history , the correct version is given - The company was started in a garage in Mumbai by four friends Champaklal Choksey, Chimanlal Choksi, Suryakant Dani and Arvind Vakil in February 1945.

An obvious error! needs to be corrected 04:18, 31 August 2018 (UTC)165.225.106.65 (talk)

 Done Only edit by an unregistered user. In the future you can always make changes like this yourself, or, if you have a Conflict of Interest, request changes on the article's Talk Page. Rojomoke (talk) 06:19, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

New Article after deletion

I have just created a new article of child prodigy Zidane Hamid after its previous draft deletion. I want to know its status that how much time it will take to be published — Preceding unsigned comment added by Missionary Muslim (talk • contribs) 14:50, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello Missionary Muslim and welcome to the Teahouse. Since it is in the mainspace, it is considered "published" as an article. —AE (talk • contributions) 14:58, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

But i dont find it in google search when i type article name and wikipedia. And it is not found in wikipedia search suggestion when i type inside wikipedia search. When it will be visible in google results and wikipedia search suggestions — Preceding unsigned comment added by Missionary Muslim (talk • contribs) 15:19, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Missionary Muslim It takes time for search engines to index pages. Please be patient. Is there a particular reason you are eager for the article to be seen? 331dot (talk) 15:23, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Yes because the subject of article is such an exceptional kid who is being searched in wikipedia frequently.

Please sign your comments by typing four of ~ at the end. What 333.dot was hinting at was whether you have any connection to Zidane Hamid. Do you know the child personally? Are you a family member or manager/promoter? David notMD (talk) 15:29, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

I have no personal connection. I found on search engine this keyword has been searched frequently like Zidane Hamid Biohraphy, Zidane hamid Wiki, that's why I created this article when i thoroughly searched about him Missionary Muslim (talk) 15:37, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

I have created an article of child prodigy Zidane Hamid who is notable for wikipedia biography. It was published yesterday, now it has been nominated for deletion. I want to know its reason and suggestions for its improvement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Missionary Muslim (talk • contribs) 08:08, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Missionary Muslim The user who nominated the page for deletion gave their reason in the deletion discussion. Please contribute to the discussion if you have questions. 331dot (talk) 08:12, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Change Article Title

I am working on behalf of a journal to update it's wikipedia and the article title only uses its former name before it was changed. How do I change the main title of the article?

Hello Shalaineduffy and welcome to the Teahouse. Before you continue to edit, please review WP:COI. Conflict of interest editing is strongly discouraged in Wikipedia and will usually result in your changes being reverted by another editor upon discovering that you have a conflict of interest. Please don't edit articles where you have these conflicts, as it makes edits to be article impossible to reflect a neutral point of view and will result in inadvertent and unpremeditated bias being added regardless of intent. However, you are welcome to propose changes on the article's talk page. Do you mean Thorax (journal)? —AE (talk • contributions) 08:51, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for that information. No it was no Thorax but another. I will not change any articles that I have those conflicts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shalaineduffy (talk • contribs) 09:05, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

@Shalaineduffy: Tobacco Control (journal), Open Heart (journal), Heart (journal) or Injury Prevention (journal)? —AE (talk • contributions) 09:08, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

The title of the journal is Journal of Family Planning and Reproductive Health Care and the new title is BMJ Sexual and Reproductive Health — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shalaineduffy (talk • contribs) 09:09, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

 Done BMJ Sexual and Reproductive Health —AE (talk • contributions) 09:11, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

On High School Consolidations

So, let's say there are two high schools in a district... let's call them School A and School B. Now let's say that School A is shut down and consolidated into School B to make School C. Would you modify School B's article to make it about School C and mention that it used to be School B before the consolidation somewhere on the article, or would School C get its own, separate article? I've seen instances of both on here, so I'm unsure of what the general rule for this is. Finchwidget (talk) 17:51, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

• @Finchwidget: The question you have could be asked more generally in many situations of name change or topic scope change. The answer, to my knowledge, is that it depends. I would say that if the articles involved are short enough, and schools A/B do not have outstanding history, the first option (with a redirect from A/B to C) is probably best (e.g. Areva is a redirect to Orano, the new name of the company). On the other hand, if the articles are long enough to warrant a WP:SIZESPLIT, or if the topic is significantly different for some reason, then multiple articles are warranted (e.g. Rhodesia contains the details of a period of the history of the country Zimbabwe). Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 09:28, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Methionine Sulfoximine wrong phosphorylation mechanism

Hi guys, In my research I came upon the "Methionine Sulfoximine" page of wikipedia and noticed something strange in the phosphorylation mechanism (the only picture of the artile). I checked the reference (reference 2, Krajewski, W. W.; Jones, T. A.; Mowbray, S. L. (18 July 2005).) and could confirm that the displayed mechanism of phosphorylation is wrong (A small mistake, but to someone in the field it makes a big difference). I made a correct picture and tried to put in on the "Methionine Sulfoximine" article, but can't overwrite the old picture. I just created a Wikipedia account and never edited anything before. When I just try to upload a picture (google "wikipedia edit picture", first enty: https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Wikipedia:Upload/Replace_this_image), it says "Permission Error" since I am not an Autoconfirmed user, Administrator or Confirmed user. Can anyone help me to correct the mistake on the article? Thaks for the help! PatrickP94 — Preceding unsigned comment added by PatrickP94 (talk • contribs) 09:19, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

• @PatrickP94: Thank you for your (attempted) contribution. Short version: you should have tried at https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Upload&wpDestFile=Methionine_Sulfoximine.PNG&wpForReUpload=1, but there is better to do!

Long version: You met an admittedly confusing problem of image files, which is that there are two mechanisms to upload them depending on the copyright status. The image in the article is actually hosted at our sister project Wikimedia Commons, where you can upload a new version (on Commons, you can upload as long as you are logged in, no special permissions are needed). What you tried to do was upload locally on the English Wikipedia itself; this should be done only for files which are not freely-licensed (but only for those verifying a long list of criteria).

However, this is the procedure to replace a image with the same format. The old image is in .png format, that is, raster graphics. As the image is a diagram, it would be better to upload it as a vector graphics, in .svg format, if the software you used allows to export it as such. To do so:

1. Upload the .svg image to Wikimedia Commons (follow the instructions at [1]) under a new title (for instance Methionine sulfoximine phosphorylation mechanism.svg)
2. Change the image used in the Wikipedia article. To do so, go to Methionine sulfoximine, click "edit" next to the relevant section (here "Mechanism of action"), and find the image-placing wikicode: right now it is [[File:Methionine Sulfoximine.PNG|300px|thumb|left|Phosphorylation of MSO by glutamine synthetase.]]. The first part of that code is what tells the software which name the image has, so replace it by the name you gave when uploading: [[File:Methionine Sulfoximine.PNG(whatever you named your file at upload.svg)|300px|thumb|left|Phosphorylation of MSO by glutamine synthetase.]]

Please let us know if you have further issues, and feel free to give a look at the image tutorial. Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 09:57, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

• @Tigraan: I followed your instructions and uploaded the .svg picture. Happy to have fixed the mechanistic mistake. Thank your for the quick response and detailed answer!

  @PatrickP94: Great! A few other pointers if you intend to stick around: you should sign your posts on talk pages by adding four tildes (~~~~) at the end, and have a look at indent to understand how to typeset your posts to indicate who you are answering to. You might also want to take a quick look at Template:Re and/or WP:PING to know how to grab someone's attention (you almost managed to do in the above post, but it did not work due to your failure to sign the post). Tigraan^{Click here to contact me} 11:45, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

help with tagged page

since May 2018 a page, I contributed quite a bit, contains an {{Excessive citations}} tag. I have no idea how to handle this and added some questions about it on the talk page, but I don't know how to draw a little bit more attention to it. Treutwein (talk) 13:17, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello Treutwein and welcome to the Teahouse. You may read Wikipedia:Citation overkill#How to trim excessive citations. Regards —AE (talk • contributions) 13:23, 27 August 2018 (UTC)

@AE: thanks for the pointer. I do not see any necessity for removing citations. My opinion and the opinion of another contributor to the page is that this tag given by Accoun1, who has no talk page and appears to be a tag bomber, can be ignored. In the meantime the other contributor deleted the tag. Treutwein (talk) 09:40, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Addendum: Accoun1 was active between May/9th and July/27,2018 and no more contributions since then.Treutwein (talk) 11:55, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Help for resubmitting my article for "Lilium" (the VOTL company from Munich)

I recently submitted an article on Lilium, an eVOTL aviation company from Munich, but unfortunately it was denied. I'm into sustainable companies and trying to expand my skill set by learning how to be a wiki writer and I was wondering what I could do to improve the article so it gets approved next time around. There is already an approved article for the 'Lilium Jet' in German and similar products/companies have an approved Wikipedia page, so this is a topic gaining attention. Basically, the reviewer said it sounded like advertising. I've taken out the section for 'awards & nominations' and information about the team to make it completely neutral. Other than that I'm not sure what to improve and would like some tips about writing about a company/product so it is informative and not promoting the company. Please help! Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Huytheca (talk • contribs) 07:57, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

@Huytheca: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. The sources in the draft seem to largely be press releases or basic announcements, and not in depth coverage in independent reliable sources. Press releases and announcements are not appropriate for establishing notability per the notability guidelines at WP:ORG. The fact that you use the term "gaining attention" and (in the draft)"startup" suggests to me it is too soon for an article on this company. Companies must already be well known and established in order to merit an article here; Wikipedia cannot be used to increase the visibility of a business.

I would add that other language versions of Wikipedia(such as the German one) are separate projects with their own guidelines and policies, and a subject meriting an article on one does not necessarily mean it will here, too. 331dot (talk) 08:09, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi 331dot, thank you for your insight!

Huytheca I'll note that an article about the same subject already exists, as Lilium Jet. What typically happens is that an article that duplicates an existing topic is converted into a redirect. Sometimes the content is merged. I would add that as a reader, I find the aircraft far more interesting than the company. Perhaps you could focus on that. Vexations (talk) 12:10, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Excessive non-notable list

It is becoming obvious that there is a COI at this article: Sally Struthers in the section Stage. Not every appearance is notable; and now that the BLP's career has been reduced to "summer stock" at a theater in Maine (Ogunquit), someone keeps listing every show she does there. I'd like to clean up this section (and maybe the other 2 as well); but would like the WP policy to support cleaning up the unnecessary listings. Not sure if it is simply undue weight? Thanks. Maineartists (talk) 11:50, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Maineartists. You can be WP:BOLD or WP:CAUTIOUS, but before you do either you might want to take a look at WP:LSC for general guidance and also check to see if this has been previously discussed at Talk:Sally Struthers (you may need to dig through the archives if there are any). If a consensus has been previously established to include all of these mentions, then you should be CAUTIOUS and try to establish a new one if you feel there's a need. A consensus can change over time per WP:CCC, but you shouldn't just unilaterally decide to void it without a really strong policy/guideline based reason for doing so. At the same time, if all of this information has been just recently added without really any discussion, then maybe being BOLD is best. Just make sure you leave a clearly worded edit sum explaining why (best to cite a relevant policy or guideline if possible) and then possibly following up with a talk page post as well. If another editor comes along and reverts your change, follow WP:DR and avoid edit warring no matter how right you think you are. Sometimes a good place to ask about these kinds of things are on the talk pages of relevant WikiProjects, so you might want to try asking at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Theatre, etc. for opinions. Even better would be to use {{Please see}} so as to keep all relevant discussion on the article's talk page. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:31, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Marchjuly Wow. Thanks so much for taking the time to explain all this. I will certainly take your advice and study my options before proceeding. Thanks again. Maineartists (talk) 12:58, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikilinks

Hi Teahouse folks, it's good to see you again. I had two general questions - how do I create a wikilink to a specific entry in the deletion log, and how do I link to a specific section of a specific revision of a page? (I'm aware of Special:Diff, which goes some way in helping, but doesn't exactly do the job.) Thanks in advance, Airbornemihir (talk) 13:36, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

@Airbornemihir:

1. AFAIK, it's not possible.
2. You put "#SECTION" after the revision link. Example: https://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Teahouse&oldid=857393165#Harassment

—AE (talk • contributions) 13:46, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Airbornemihir. A wikilink usually means a link made with [[...]] syntax. If a page is currently deleted then a normal wikilink like Free Cities will show the deletion log. If the page exists then I don't think it's possible to wikilink the deletion log. Special:Log/delete/Free Cities shows deletions by a user called Free Cities (there isn't one). https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Special:Log?type=delete&page=Free+Cities shows the deletion log but not in a wikilink. It can also be linked with [{{fullurl:Special:Log|type=delete&page=Free+Cities}}] which produces [2] but it isn't a wikilink. https://en.wiki.x.io/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Teahouse&oldid=857393165#Harassment can be wikilinked with Special:PermanentLink/857393165#Harassment. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:04, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

@Abelmoschus Esculentus and PrimeHunter: Thanks! Airbornemihir (talk) 14:06, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Why I cant create article ?

Hello every one I want create my article but wikipedia dont allow me to do this. Why reason ? Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bukan1400 (talk • contribs) 08:15, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

@Bukan1400: Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. New users must wait until they are what is called autoconfirmed in order to create articles; your account must be at least four days old and have at least 10 edits. You only have three edits that were all today. You may use Articles for Creation to submit drafts for review until then, or you may edit existing articles in areas that interest you and wait the four days. 331dot (talk) 08:19, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

If the article which you are trying to create is Draft:Kurdish Shepherd Dog, you need to realise that references need to be placed in the article text, see Help:Referencing for beginners. --David Biddulph (talk) 09:26, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

I revised the one image gallery at the bottom to two galleries (photos of dogs; photos of bas-relief art), but the referencing still needs to be fixed per David Biddulph's recommendation. David notMD (talk) 15:33, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Mobile phone

Am I OK to use Wikipedia even though I only have a mobile phone.?? Thank you. I will be waiting for your answer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by June Commerford (talk • contribs) 15:02, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

June Commerford Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You are welcome to use Wikipedia on whatever device works for you- although editing is usually cumbersome on a phone. 331dot (talk) 15:12, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Don't tell that to Cullen328. See Smartphone editing. Bus stop (talk) 15:18, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your quick response. I really appreciate it. Have a good day !! June Commerford (talk) 15:34, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

If I can be of any assistance with smartphone editing, just ask me, June Commerford. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 18:46, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Fedback on page updated after deletion: Draft:Strider_Sports_International

Earlier this year, I submitted a page for Strider Sports and it was noted for deletion. I have updated it and welcome your feedback: https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Draft:Strider_Sports_International. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SliePre (talk • contribs) 15:52, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi SliePre, welcome to the Teahouse and thank you for working on the draft some more. The simplest way to get feedback on it is to press the "Resubmit" button in the message box at the top so it's a live WP:AfC candidate again. You've certainly improved it. › Mortee _talk 20:10, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Copyright image question with PDF's

I have two separate questions, appreciate any insight.

1. According to disclaimer by Yiddish Book Center in this PDF this is now in public domain and on the third page is an image of Morris Winchevsky. Can I take a screenshot of that PDF and upload it to Commons or are there better practices?

2. In the second case, a recently published (and copyrighted) book Jewish Materialism (2018) published an image from Yiddish periodical Der Groyser Kundes (1912). Can I screenshot the picture of Benjamin Feigenbaum used in that modern book? I emailed the author who wrote me back, but I want an expert opinion from Wikipedia too.

I found the picture of Feigenbaum in the paper itself (to the best of my knowledge that is where it was first published). I took a picture of the paper and used it for the book. The picture is over one hundred years old. I do not see why it would be a problem to publish under fair use. best, elli stern

Shushugah (talk) 19:51, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hey Shushugah. Is there a publication date included in Yiddish on the second page there? GMG^talk 19:56, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello, GreenMeansGo the date of the Winchvesky publication is 1933, a few months after he died in 1932. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shushugah (talk • contribs) 20:04, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Okay. So far so good Shushugah. Does it indicate where it was published? Or is the only indication of that the reference to Amherst Massachusetts in English on the first page? GMG^talk 20:07, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Shushugah. The second image which was originally published in 1912 is clearly in the public domain so no problems there. Upload it to Wikimedia Commons. Nothing published before 1923 is copyrighted any longer. The disclaimer by the Yiddish Book Center is not rock solid because orphaned works may still be covered by copyright, and it looks to me like the publication date is 1933 (which you have just confirmed). Instead, upload that image here on Wikipedia under our non-free image policy criteria #10. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 20:11, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Book #1 was published in New York (says so in Yiddish on page 2) and according to the metadata of this page. Amhert, is referring to the present location of Yiddish Book Center itself which did the scanning. Shushugah (talk) 20:13, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Cullen is correct about source 2. But source 1 should be good too. Since the author of the work (who presumably owned the copyright to the image in order to publish it himself) died in 1933. Term of copyright in the US is life plus 70 years. So you can upload it to Commons using Template:PD-old-70. GMG^talk 20:17, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

No subject

I am having difficulty getting to saved downloads. right now, i am looking for parapsycholoy relaing to the use nuclear weapons by insecure heads of governmemt — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chander perkash (talk • contribs) 08:47, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Umm...Chander perkash...What? GMG^talk 22:44, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Can I put a forum on the user page?

The Wikipedia article on what Wikipedia is not says that Wikipedia Article talk pages are not to be used as forums, however the talk page on South African farm attacks is becoming a debate. I was thinking I could move the debate sections to another page, but WP:NOTFORUM does not allow that. then I looked on the user page article, and it does not have WP:NOTFORUM under what should not go there. Could I move this discussion to a user page?Billster156234781 (talk) 20:52, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Billster156234781, welcome to Teahouse. It looks like the debate is about what to do with the article. That belongs on the article talk page. Besides, there are several people involved - whose talk page would you move it to? If it morphs into an argument about the situation itself, not what sources say and, on that basis, what to write, that could be a problem, but having the same discussion elsewhere won't improve it. It might be best to leave them to it for a while. This edit and this, your third and fourth edits on the encyclopedia, are your two comments there so far. It's difficult to resolve an argument between other people (though not impossible), especially when you're new to the project and its policies. Why not find something else to work on for a while, come back in a day or two and see if it's calmed down? If it has, perhaps whatever you'd like to contribute to the discussion will be easier then. If a conversation you are involved with really gets out of hand, see WP:Dispute resolution. › Mortee _talk 21:22, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Note: I've posted a question regarding this article to Wikipedia:Help desk. This is an ongoing and very charged discussion and may require admin involvement. Rosalina2427 ^{(talk to me)} 21:39, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, I admit i did make some comments about the tucker carlson show on the page, but it might be something to continue on a forum type site, like reddit.Billster156234781 (talk) 17:50, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Update: I've started a discussion regarding the talk page here on the administrators' noticeboard. Also, Teahouse editors, let me know if I'm wrong here, but Reddit does not seem to be an appropriate place to continue the debate, or even continue the attacks regarding the article at all. Rosalina2427 ^{(talk to me)} 02:52, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Format infobox error

can someone please fix the infobox formatting error of this page -->> Shivpal Singh Yadav‎ ? thanks ----Adamstraw99 (talk) 08:19, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Adamstraw99,  Fixed the formatting error was from the unclosed links inserted by the ip ([[Samajwadisecular morcha) Galobtter (pingó mió) 08:28, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Galobtter, thank you sooo much :-) Adamstraw99 (talk) 09:17, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

question 1

What is Linda Lind's age — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vincentonebillion (talk • contribs) 11:50, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Hello Vincentonebillion. This is a page for answering questions about editing Wikipedia. You might find somebody who can answer you at The Entertainment section of the Reference Desk. --ColinFine (talk) 12:44, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Editing References

I want to edit text under a == References == section. But I can't access the text - there is only displayed {{reflist}} under the == References == section in Edit mode (Edit source mode). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikifan1248 (talk • contribs) 12:01, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Wikifan1248, The References section is usually filled by references earlier in the page. In Edit Source mode, look for things between <ref> and </ref> tags. rchard2scout (talk) 12:16, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Thank you!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikifan1248 (talk • contribs) 14:51, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Posting Images

Hello, I'm creating a new page and I'm trying to add images to it. An editor marked my images as potentially violating copyright and now they have been removed. I am the image owner. How do I get these images approved without someone else marking them in violation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by John zabkowicz 210 (talk • contribs) 17:07, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi John zabkowicz 210. Images are usually uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, which is a separate project from the English Wikipedia, so the advice we can give you here is limited. I gather that the images you uploaded were removed because they have previously been published elsewhere on the internet, so you need to offer some evidence that you are indeed the copyright holder and that you release it under an appropriate license. I suggest asking the Commons administrator that deleted your images how to do that. – Joe (talk) 17:49, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Autoconfirmed user

If I edit a total of 50 editions, what would happen? --DanielSanders25 (talk) 17:11, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Hello, DanielSanders25 if you mean Autoconfirmed user, then you need 10 edits and being active for 4 days, which allows you to create articles. For Extended Confirmed Protection (ECP), you can edit topics that are more restricted, for example, Donald Trump, Any Israel-Palestine conflict pages. WP:ECP can also obtain Wikipedia Library access to scholarly journals. For an overview, see WP:Protection_policy#Overview_of_types_of_protection I reached 500 edits this week myself, but for most part, I will keep doing what I love :) Shushugah (talk) 17:49, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

copyright material - used with permission

I have permission from the publisher of an obituary, which is in a journal from 1984, to use whatever information and quotes I like in my Wiki article. How do I register and prove to Wikipedia that I have this permission, as it is in an email to me? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yororipas (talk • contribs) 17:27, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi Yororipas. You would have to forward the email to OTRS. Note that it's not enough that the copyright owner gave you permission; they have to agree to release the text under a specific copyright licence that releases most of their rights and permits anyone to use and modify the text for any purpose, in perpetuity.

I don't think it is worth you going to all that trouble though. Copyright aside, copying text from other sources into Wikipedia articles verbatim is rarely good idea, because they are usually written in a completely different style to the encyclopaedic tone and house style we use. You don't special permission to include limited quotations, as long as they are properly attributed to the original source. Other information you should put into your own words. – Joe (talk) 17:57, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Linking to my 1,000 edit

Today I reached a personal milestone on Wikipedia. I made my 1,000 edit on the page South Sugarloaf Fire. How can I tell which of the edits to that page was my 1,000? And how can I get a link to it that I can put on my Wikipedia profile page? Greshthegreat (talk)

Well, Greshthegreat, your current edit count is 1011, which makes the above your 1009th, and this your 1000th. You can write a permanent link to it like this: [[Special:Diff/857582329|1000th edit]]. – Joe (talk) 18:02, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Feedback request for first edit.

Hello, I have just made my first Wikipedia edit and am keen to ensure I have done it correctly, so would welcome any feedback from a more seasoned editor. I had noticed that an image in an article on Emilia Lanier in the section 'Early life' showed the wrong church (St Botolph's. Bossall), so substituted that photo with another from the correct church's existing Wikipedia page (St Botolph-without-Bishopsgate). Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikkiDon'tLoseThatNumber (talk • contribs) 14:47, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi WikkiDon'tLoseThatNumber, welcome to Wikipedia and to the Teahouse. Yes, you did that entirely correctly. Thanks for the contribution. › Mortee _talk 15:41, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Mortee.

Hi, WikkiDon'tLoseThatNumber. Welcome to Wikipedia. Congratulations, not only for making your first edit, but also for choosing one of the best usernames I've seen here in a long time. I've left a welcome message with a shed load of useful links for you on your Talk Page. Can't wait to see what you put on your WP:UserPage. Regards from the UK. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:05, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

age isn't complying with the birthdate?

so i went on zendaya's wikipedia and noticed that her birthday is today (sept. 1) but her age isn't being changed to 22, it's just stuck to 21. i was thinking i could change it to 22 but didn't know how to do that, so i googled how. but what i saw on all the pages was what seemed like the wiki page does it by itself, and even so when i tried, i couldn't find a place on the page to change her age, just the part with her birthday. can someone help me understand whats going on? sorry if i sound clueless but I've really only done simple edits to wiki pages and i don't really understand how the more complicated ones work. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thebekahbird (talk • contribs) 20:12, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Thebekahbird Welcome to Teahouse. Changes need to be done in "edit source mode". Fixed. See Zendaya. CASSIOPEIA^(talk) 20:28, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

@Thebekahbird: The age updates automatically but pages are cached for performance reasons. You can purge a page to force an update right away. See Wikipedia:Purge. Making any to the page like CASSIOPEIA did will also force an update but isn't necessary. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:40, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

How/where can I apologise to editors I have accidentally offended

I made an edit and tried to get involved in some "talk" pages. I did this before I had created a profile, I believe this in itself made me appear like a suspicious crank with some kind of issues. I have created a profile now (how did I miss that) I have tried clicking on one of the peoples "talk" link by there username and wrote a long and genuine apology on their page under one of their headings "your rudeness". I would guess there are at least four very experienced editors that I want/need to apologise to. Is that talk button the right place to do that? I am finding participating on Wikipedia to be a steep learning curve and I would hope to try to apologise for my blunders to date. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eimhin de Róiste (talk • contribs) 20:34, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi Eimhin de Róiste. Wanting to apologise is very admirable. User talk pages is the right place to do that, but you should start new sections (unless there are existing sections that you started). The easiest way to do that is to press the '+' button to the right of 'Edit source' at the top. › Mortee _talk 20:43, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Though, actually, I see Dmcq replied to your message (they didn't ping you so you may not have seen). They said that as far as they can see you haven't been rude to anyone, and that there's no need to apologise. I haven't looked over your contributions myself, but you may be worrying too much › Mortee _talk 21:04, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Draft:One In A Million (Matoma Album)

I finished an article about Matoma new album, but I want know how this process this works. How can I convince them to approve this page? I need help. This is my first article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronaldo3455 (talk • contribs) 5:41, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi Ronaldo3455, welcome to the Teahouse and thank you for your work on the article so far. To submit it for review you need to add {{subst:submit}} to the top of it (see WP:Articles for creation). One way to make the article look more ready for review is to structure the references using templates like {{cite web}} (see WP:Referencing). Consider getting rid of the primary/sales references like Amazon, Facebook and iTunes. The reviewer will mostly be looking at notability, particularly these guidelines. Check that your references show this album meets those. I hope this helps. › Mortee _talk 23:34, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Profile creation before editing

Hello I just very recently joined and very stupidly on my part started making contributions on a sensitive subject before I setup my profile page. I realise this was a major oversight on my part and a major breach of etiquette. I was wondering is there are reason why noobs like me are even able to do this has it been considered to make profile creation compulsory before contributions and edits can be made? Thanks in advance and hopefully not an insulting or ridiculous question. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eimhin de Róiste (talk • contribs) 22:20, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi again Eimhin de Róiste. I haven't seen any suggestion that people should be required to write a user page before they edit. There is a minority of editors who think people should have an account before editing, but even editors without an account (i.e. IP editors, with no username) are in fact welcome here. I'm not sure why you have the impression that this might be a problem. Has anyone said to you that it is? In a sensitive subject areas, editors are sometimes dismissive of new users who they suppose aren't aware of Wikipedia policies. Having a user page might, I suppose, reduce that reaction slightly, but it's not some breach of etiquette. › Mortee _talk 23:45, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Discussions have been closed can I help fix this

Hello I was trying to make a contribution on a sensitive subject and it appears my rookie errors have resulted in these discussions

http://en.m.wiki.x.io/wiki/Republic_of_Ireland#/talk/4

being closed down. Is there anything I can do to repair the upset it seems clear that I seem to have caused. Can I delete/redact/withdraw my contributions. I believe I am now participating in discussions in the appropriate areas of Wikipedia as directed by the senior editors there. I have made a personal apology to everyone who reacted to my blunders and I would like to try and do as much as possible to make good my mistakes. Also sorry I haven't managed to include a working link (I think) I have only been managing thus far by copying the formats [[ etc by copying the format from others and I don't have anyone to format copy from in this instance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eimhin de Róiste (talk • contribs) 22:45, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

@Eimhin de Róiste: reading Talk:Republic of Ireland#(republic of) Ireland, no, I don't think there's anything you need to do here. You asked some questions honestly, it turned out they'd been asked enough times before that the place you asked them wasn't the right place anymore, and you got some pointers to elsewhere. Nothing to atone for there and you needn't worry so. It might be useful to look through the archives at e.g. Talk:Republic of Ireland to see what the earlier discussions were before deciding what to do next. › Mortee _talk 00:01, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

PS I've learned almost everything I know of Wikipedia's markup from copying others too. You can ask Teahouse or me any markup questions you have. › Mortee _talk 00:01, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

two user name by mistake

I am working on an article and I decided to also work at the same time on a second article. Somehow, and I do not understand this, the second article seems to have a different username to the first. My question is, how do I delete the unwanted user name? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yororipas (talk • contribs) 21:41, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi Yororipas, welcome to the Teahouse. Could you try asking that again? I don't understand. Articles don't have usernames, editors do. You have one username, each of the articles has one title. What's the issue you're trying to solve? › Mortee _talk 23:24, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

From the edit history of the drafts it appears likely that the user has two accounts: user:Yororipas (created Aprii 2018) and user:Yororipash4 (created May 2016) and has used both of them today.

You cannot delete an account. Pick one as your account and stop using the other account. Since both have been used to edit the drafts today the account that is being dropped should be redirected to the main account. See WP:REDIRECT for how to do this. Meters (talk) 05:30, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Yororipas, Meters has analyzed the situation correctly. You must completely abandon one of those accounts, and use only the other account in the future. This is really important. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:37, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Can I edit my username after creation?

Can I communicate in private (PM) in some way with someone about this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eimhin de Róiste (talk • contribs) 06:08, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

No, Eimhin de Róiste. If you want a different username, open a new account under that name, and then abandon all use of your current account. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:15, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Changing username#Please consider the following alternatives to a rename says: "Users who have made very few edits are encouraged to register a new account and discard the old one." PrimeHunter (talk) 09:37, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Or if you want to keep your contribution history associated with your current username, you can request a change of name at Special:GlobalRenameRequest. Cordless Larry (talk) 10:13, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Company Pages!!

i am unclear about the rules and conditions required to make a company page that I feel is worth sharing info for. I'd like if some one could help me with this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragons2000 (talk • contribs) 16:06, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Dragons2000, first of all, the company has to meet WP:NORG, the Wikipedia notability guidelines for companies and organizations. This usually means being covered substantially (full articles or several paragraphs, or several minutes or longer for radio/TV) in secondary sources (meaning not just routine news coverage of facts, some analysis is needed) that are reliable (major news organizations like the New York Times or BBC is usual). The coverage also has to be independent, and not unduly promotional or negative. For what kind of coverage is considered significant, the WP:ORGDEPTH section goes into more detail. Feel free to direct any more questions to me, either using {{reply}} or at my talk page, though I may not be available for several hours. — Alpha3031 (t • c) 16:26, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Dragons2000. Welcome to the Teahouse, and thank you for asking, rather than just ploughing in like so many new editors. It might help to realise that there is no such thing as a "company page" in Wikipedia: that is a concept more appropriate to a directory or other advertising medium. What we do have, in thousands, is articles about companies. Those articles do not contain what the company says or wants to say: they should be based, almost entirely, on what people who have no connection with the company have chosen to publish about the company - and if there is little or no such independent published material, then there can be no article. The company and its agents have no control over the content, and are strongly discouraged from creating the article or editing it thereafter (though they are encouraged to suggest edits on the article's talk page). --ColinFine (talk) 10:23, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Edits to a page

Dear Wiki Teahouse, I keep on getting a contributor deleting or undoing my edits when they are in reference to the family of the person. I am not sure why since this is verifiable information. Best J DZ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jughurta dz (talk • contribs) 06:54, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jughurta dz. When another editor challenges information that you want to add to an article, you need to produce a reliable source that supports it. It's not enough to assert that information is verifiable, you have to prove that it's verifiable with a citation. See WP:CHALLENGE for more information. – Joe (talk) 07:27, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi Joe, thank you so much for the advice but it is actually verifiable at the municipality level, the editor who challenges is not a reliable source to challenge so why does that override actual factual information. Just trying to understand the general inner workings of wiki . I have checked numerous pages where there is no references or reliable sources for the person's family. It seems quite odd that information is systematically deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jughurta dz (talk • contribs) 09:26, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Please read about verifiability and about biographies of living persons. If you say it is verifiable you need to add references to published independent reliable sources. If you find unsourced information in other articles you can tag it as {{citation needed}} or remove it with an appropriate edit summary. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:18, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

From looking at the Mohamed Sahnoun article, the editor reverting your added content pointed to PRABOOK as not a reliable source of information. If Sahnoun has a wife and children, and you want to add that information, find a better reference. David notMD (talk) 11:35, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Wiki Adventure

I have just completed (I think) Wiki Adventure but it didnt wrap up. have I finished it, how do I confirm Ive completed everything, thanks Aquarius4 (talk) 08:57, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Aquarius4 and welcome to the Teahouse. Well done for starting The Wikipedia Adventure. There are actually 15 badges to be attained, so I'm afraid you do still have a little way to go yet. (There's a list of them all at the bottom of my own userpage at User:Nick Moyes - just expand the Interesting Links>'Declaration of interest' section and you'll see them all) I found trying to complete it on a tablet or mobile did cause problems - something the developers are aware of. Good luck on the start of your Wikipedia journey - wherever that may lead you. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 15:00, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

How to

How do you put source — Preceding unsigned comment added by PittPanther06 (talk • contribs) 17:27, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi PittPanther, you ask very broad question, however start by reading Referencing for beginners. –Ammarpad (talk) 17:51, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Main Page

How do I “View History” of the Main Page??

Or get a 1 page summary of news day-by-day? MBG02 (talk) 13:40, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

The main page is actually a bunch of different pages. The news bit is Template:In the news. Ian.thomson (talk) 13:52, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Is there a wiki page (article) for a date (eg 10 September 2017) that lists news items (like the main page)? (And with blue-links.)

Diff Q: does one of those edit buttons insert a next-level-indent? I’ve tried about 10 of ‘em.

MBG02 (talk) 14:29, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

@MBG02: See Wikipedia:Main Page history. It links Wikipedia:Main Page history/2017 September 10. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:07, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Thanks. You answered the Q but it’s not what I was hoping for. Does the news page stay the same for 7 days? Was Scott Morrison so noteworthy he was the main item for all Wiki? I was hoping for a historical Wiki “News Page” like the main page, but daily, and a bit longer. Something readable about what’s happened in the world (in date order), quickly. (Wiki-ly). MBG02 (talk) 18:06, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

MBG02; See Portal:Current events, and by your right side you'll see a calendar with clickable dates which you can use to navigate through daily or monthly logs. Seems that's nearest to what you're looking for, if not the one. –Ammarpad (talk) 18:13, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

new comer

Hi

I have just started writing. could anyone please suggest me the best available lessons for learning editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShahedAziz (talk • contribs) 17:47, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi ShahedAziz, welcome to Wikipedia and to Teahouse. You can start by reading WP:Plain and simple and WP:A primer for newcomer as well as WP:Your first article. –Ammarpad (talk) 17:58, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Hello ShahedAziz! New editors are always welcome here. Thank you for leaving your question because there are probably other editors who have the same question but just didn't ask. There is a tutorial that is probably useful to you. It can be found here: Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Adventure. Best Regards, Barbara ✐  ✉ 18:32, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Similar Q

Similar to above Q; I’d like to see ATP and WTA rankings history, even if only in an abbreviated form. The info isn’t retained in the “View History” (that I can see). Is there a reason? Or am I not looking properly? MBG02 (talk) 13:43, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

@MBG02: If a page displays templates then old revisions of the page displays the current version of the template. You have to locate the template page to see the history, e.g. by clicking edit and see {{Current ATP Singles Rankings}} or {{Current WTA Singles Rankings}}. The official websites have ranking histories with date selection at https://www.atpworldtour.com/en/rankings/singles and http://www.wtatennis.com/rankings. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:15, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter: Again; Thanks. I can get there (the Wiki Page) from the links you posted. But not from the ATP Rankings page. Is that possible? If there’s a similar “transcluded” page, do I just add the words “current”? ... or search for “template”? MBG02 (talk) 18:30, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

@MBG02: {{Current ATP Singles Rankings}} is displayed in three articles. One of them is ATP Rankings#Current rankings. If you click the section edit link there then you see the code {{Current ATP Singles Rankings}}. This means that Template:Current ATP Singles Rankings is displayed. Template names vary a lot and are hard to guess. If you click the Edit tab at top of a page (called "View source" on pages you cannot edit) or you preview a section of a page then the bottom of the window has a linked alphabetical list "Templates used in this preview". There you can find all used templates and try to guess the one you want. On Main Page the list includes Template:In the news. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:20, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

Add contest table to my article

I recently created a page of Matoma new album, but how I can add the contest table? I have already put my draft to be checked. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronaldo3455 (talk • contribs) 5:41, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Hi Ronaldo3455. If you mean the table of contents then by default it automatically appears when there are at least four section headings. See more at Help:Section. Please sign your discussion posts with ~~~~. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:27, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

When to put my pregnant guppy in a breeder box

Hi I have a 3 gallon half moon tank with a small male pleco and a feeder guppy I got her accidentally right when she was born she fell in the net so I got her for free. My only option is a breeder box and August 10th she met 3 male guppies I know I messed up they all died from then 2 were already sick and shes pregnant now her gravid spot is mostly red with some black on the outer edge she doesnt have completely boxed off but it is though `--` There isnt a opposite ` so thats all I could do she hides in plants even though theres no one else and she recently watches the bubbles come out the filter she might be hungry but pls let me kno when she should go in it is day 23 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 35.138.230.150 (talk) 19:57, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but this is a place to ask about using Wikipedia only, and is not a general question asking forum. 331dot (talk) 20:01, 2 September 2018 (UTC)