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January 12

Deletion Discussions

When do discussions on the deletion of images and media close? The specific one I am referring to is this one. Additionally, it has two other discussions on that page for some reason. Polarbear97 (talk) 00:19, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

The top of the page says:

• Images that have been listed here for more than 5 days are eligible for deletion if either a consensus to do so has been reached or no objections to deletion have been raised.

Lower on the page, there is a link to this page:

• Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/Instructions for administrators

which may answer your question. I suppose the actual time may exceed 5 days if no administrator gets to it right away. It also sounds like a discussion could drag on for some time, if someone has fairly good arguments against deletion but not so good as to settle the issue. --Teratornis (talk) 00:32, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, I did know that it was 5 days. That is why I was wondering why the discussion was dragging on. Thank you again for answering my question. Polarbear97 (talk) 01:58, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Template for line charts

Are there any templates available to create a line chart or do we have to produce them in other programs and upload a screenshot/output image. I've noticed some of the newer charts such as this one also include CSV source data for updating and just wondered if this could be entered into a template directly instead. 62.136.142.213 (talk) 00:47, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't see any mention of dynamic graphing/plotting functions in Wikipedia in Wikipedia:How to create graphs for Wikipedia articles. That page only describes the use of external programs to generate SVG or PNG files. It has some interesting examples. There is a mw:Extension:GraphViz but it does not seem to be installed on Wikipedia, and it may be more for drawing graphs. --Teratornis (talk) 06:09, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Also see WP:EIW#Graphic. --Teratornis (talk) 06:13, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

ipod songs to my ipod

i dont no how to get songs from itunes to my ipod could u tell me —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dillo101 (talk • contribs) 01:20, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello! You need to first have your iPod connected, then select the song you want in the library. Next, click and drag so that it goes on top of whichever playlist you want the song to be on. It should give you a message at the top saying "Copying 1 of 1 to (name of iPod)." However, this desk is for questions about using Wikipedia, and we would very much appreciate it if you directed factual questions to our reference desk. Good luck with your iPod! Best, Keilana^talk 01:24, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Fair use

I was wondering, what copyright tag should I use for Image:Grethe Rask.jpg? It is a photograph of a dead person (she died in 1977), and presumably taken in either Denmark or Africa (most likely the former). Thanks in advance! Floaterfluss ^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:42, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

That image is presumably copyrighted, so I think you could use this tag: {{Non-free fair use in|Grethe Rask}}. You should also write a detailed "Fair-use rationale" on that page. See Image:Aaliyah Haughton.jpg for an example. Hope this helps. kawaputra^torque 06:21, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

bleeding to death

I am doing a research paper on how a person bleeds to death and how long it takes. Also which vein is the largest in the body to cause the most bleeding. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.117.22.84 (talk) 03:45, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

This is for asking questions about how to use Wikipedia. This is not the place for homework help question. P.S. Good luck on that paper. Soxπed Ninety Three | tcdb 03:49, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

A better place to ask would be the Science reference desk. The volunteers there will do their bext to help you. DuncanHill (talk) 03:54, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually, bleeding is faster from arteries rather than from veins, because blood pressure drops as blood passes through the capillaries to get from arteries to veins. Severing any of the major arteries can cause rapid fatal blood loss (carotid artery, femoral artery, etc.). Also see Exsanguination. --Teratornis (talk) 05:18, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

How do I create a wikipedia page for a subject of my choice?

How do I create a wikipedia page for a subject of my choice? Unknown1922 (talk) 04:15, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines which all articles should comport with. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite to reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article and Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

my son, Lt. Michael P. Murphy.MEDAL OF HONOR recipient

There is a very good article written in Newsday about Mike and his life...called Born to Serve by Martin Evans I'd like to see it added to references because it is a 7 chapter article detailing Mike, his life and his actions as a Navy SEAL.

the link is http://www.newsday.com/news/specials/ny-murphy-seal-sg,0,6675676.storygallery?coll=ny_news_local_xpromo

Its a great story and won many awards for Martin Evans the reporter... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.185.231.182 (talk) 05:04, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

You have not asked a specific question. Do you need help adding references? SpinningSpark 12:34, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

A parent of the subject has a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and should be careful with editing the article. The best place to make a suggestion is Talk:Michael P. Murphy. {{Request edit}} can be placed to attract attention to the suggestion. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:50, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

(BTW, I have added the link to Michael P. Murphy as it seemed to be an accpetable source for information.) Woody (talk) 14:56, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Null edit vs. purge

Is there a difference between making a null edit and purging the cache? - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 05:41, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

In some cases. Some problems are fixed by a null edit but not by purge. For example, if a transcluded template has added or removed a category since it was last transcluded then purge will not update the category page, but a null edit will do it. PrimeHunter (talk) 05:54, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

So then a null edit forces MediaWiki to re-interpret the wikitext (including any transcluded items), but a purge simply re-loads the most current version of the wikitext (overriding the cache) without re-interpreting it? - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 05:58, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

A purge also re-interprets the page, but only for the purpose of updating that page. It doesn't affect other pages. A null edit can affect both the null-edited page and category pages. Suppose Example page transcludes Template:Example. Somebody adds Category:Example to Template:Example. The software doesn't discover that Example page should be in Category:Example. Then Example page is purged. This rebuilds Example page which adds Category:Example to the list of categories at the bottom, but the page Category:Example is not updated to add Example page. Then a null edit is made on Example page. This causes Category:Example add Example page. I hope this makes sense. I cannot link to a real example because anybody might make a null edit at any time to spoil the example, but I have discovered real examples and fixed them with null edits after purge didn't work. PrimeHunter (talk) 06:18, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Shift-Alt-P hotkey and Windows Media Player

Hi,

After a recent computer upgrade I find that the trusty Shift-Alt-P accesskey combination which I use, for accessibility reasons, to preview an edit before saving, brings up Windows Media Player's playlist. I can't find any way of disabling this in WMP or elsewhere, and it doesn't seem to be mentioned on the web. Does anyone have any suggestions for how I might restore the key combination to Wikipedia? (I'm using Firefox.)

Thank you!!

Verisimilus T 09:34, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Try looking at My Preferences, Gadgets. Disable Access Keys needs to be unchecked. By the way, are you sure you need the Shift part of that combination? Alt-P works jsut as well on my IE. SpinningSpark 10:51, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Please note that this is the Helpdesk, which takes questions related to problems on Wikipedia. These sort of the questions in the future should go to the Computing reference desk, who will be happy to help you with any computing problems! Thank you. NF24^{(radio me!)} 12:40, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, it is technically a Wikipedia-related problem, but since the behaviour itself is related to the computer, I agree that the Ref desk would be more likely to have an answer. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 13:07, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

It's not just 'technically' a Wikipedia related problem. It IS a Wikipedia related problem. The preferences being referred to are the users Wikipedia preferences, nothing to do with his browser or operating system (although, admittedly, I did refer to his browser in the answer). If you STILL think I made an error, please explain why on my talk page. SpinningSpark 14:25, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Maybe you'll find this helpful, I found it with a google search for "alt shift p" "windows media player". Arthena^(talk) 16:30, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

The {{Google}} template is handy for displaying Google search links directly in answers to Help desk questions: "alt shift p" "windows media player". It was clever of you to do that search, because it looks like others have asked nearly the same question before. --Teratornis (talk) 17:08, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks for all your help. I'll try the reference desk for an answer that does not require disabling the minimode WMP. Verisimilus T 09:53, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Image deletion

Where do I find reasons for (speedy) image deletion? - CarbonLifeForm (talk) 11:40, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#Images and media. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:47, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

how?

how to find the subjects that i desire? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.124.121.25 (talk) 14:41, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Use the search box to your left. It should be in the side bar, about two-thirds of the way down the page. Woody (talk) 14:54, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Information inside an article but hard to find

I looked for an information about "far" which means "false acceptance rate". Typing "far" into the search does not return good results. I finally found the information by searching for "biometric" and in the article of biometrics, one can look for "far".

How can I improve the search results when looking for "far"? Should I create a separate article just for "far" ?

Thanks for the help! cheers Diving hawk (talk)

Far is a disambiguation page listing possible meanings of 'far' and 'FAR'. False Accept Rate is the last item in this list, with a link to biometrics. The only way I can think of by which this situation could be improved is to link directly to the part of biometrics which discusses FAR, which I am about to do. Algebraist 15:03, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Also, if you create a few redirection pages which would redirect someone searching on "false accept rate", "false acceptance rate" and any similar terms to the "Performance measurement" section in the biometrics article, that would help people searching on the term in full. (NB: I don't know whether the full meaning of far is meant to be "False Accept Rate" or "false acceptance rate" - I'll leave that one up to you.) The syntax you would need is #REDIRECT [[Biometrics#Performance measurement]].--86.146.241.252 (talk) 15:15, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

clear search history

How can I clear my search history so that my old searches aren't suggested when I start writing a word? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.150.118.139 (talk) 15:01, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

This question should really go on the Computing reference desk, but:

• On Firefox: Tools -> Preferences on Windows (Edit -> Preferences for Linux users). Go to Privacy and untick Remember what I enter in forms and the search bar.
• On Konqueror: Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Web Behaviour and untick "Enable completion of forms".

As I don't use IE, I can't help you there. NF24^{(radio me!)} 15:08, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

That's Tools -> preferences on my Firefox. If you only want to delete your current search history, and not disable the feature entirely, you can use tools -> clear private data to clear everything, or the Del key to delete past searches one at a time. Algebraist 15:16, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

My bad. I don't use Windows that often. NF24^{(radio me!)} 17:43, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't use IE either, but I have it installed for some reason, and this is at tools -> internet options -> content -> autocomplete -> settings. Deletion is at tools -> internet options -> general -> browsing history -> delete -> delete forms. Algebraist 15:20, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Changing IP to username in contributions

This is a question and a request:

• Question: How to remove IP and change to username when inadvertently edited without logging in? (Sometimes forget to doublecheck, and the system logs one out after a while).

• You're out of luck on this one- this can't be changed. The closest thing we can do is have an administrator delete IP revisions, but that may violate the licensing conditions.-Wafulz (talk) 17:00, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

• Request: Could the software generate a warning? At one time I encountered that - a kaptcha with note that one was about to save with IP address. I think it would be useful in general to keep such a feature. --A12n (talk) 16:13, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

• There already is a warning, either above or below the text box that says "you are logged out, your IP will be recorded" or something like that.-Wafulz (talk) 17:00, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

It's at MediaWiki:Anoneditwarning. 131.111.8.96 (talk) 23:13, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, somehow I didn't notice it. Problem is that if you multitask and don't notice that Wikipedia has logged you out before you come back, it's easy to overlook. Preferable if possible to have a kaptcha intercede.--A12n (talk) 19:06, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

How should an editor deal with a possible (but uncertain) copyvio?

I recently noticed a possible copyvio at Zonule of Zinn and removed it^[1]. Examination of the article history shows that the same text has been removed previously as a possible copyvio^[2], but been replaced by the original author without comment^[3], these two edits being the user's only contributions^[4]. The text appears to be unique to the Wikipedia article^[5][6] and is therefore not a blatant copyvio. My concern (and reason for the temporary removal of this text from the article) is that the inline references are not qualified with complete references, suggesting a direct duplication from offline material. If it were clear that this text was not a copyvio, it would be a trivial matter for me to fix this. However, I feel that it would be improper for me to do this without ascertaining the nature of this text. I was hoping that another editor may have some suggestion on how to handle this situation. --Lox (t,c) 16:21, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Listing it at Wikipedia:Copyright problems would be the best bet. Woody (talk) 16:23, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you Woody, will do! --Lox (t,c) 16:25, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Why am I getting gibberish in the text?

Throughout the Wikipedia pages there are areas of gibberish in between correct wording. For instance:

To ask a new question, click the "Click here to ask your question" link below. Remember to fill out the Subject/Headline field.

HMMM. That's interesting. When I copied the above sentence from the help page, the "Click here to ask your question" phrase was gibberish. When I pasted it here it revealed itself.

What's the scoop

Betty Rubble (talk) 16:39, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

You may be having a problem with your Internet connection that occasionally causes a page to only partly download. When you see gibberish, try reloading the page. You did not tell us what Web browser you are using, so we don't know the exact command you need. In Mozilla Firefox on GNU/Linux, for example, the command is View | Reload (or Ctrl-R). If that does not fix the problem, you could try taking a screenshot of your browser to illustrate the problem, then upload it so we can see it. --Teratornis (talk) 16:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't Betty have trouble uploading a screenshot if the account was created today? Astronaut (talk) 17:09, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

New acounts can create pages and upload images right away. Accounts must be at least 4 days old to do two other things: Move pages and edit semi-protected pages. See Wikipedia:User access levels. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:18, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

It may be a browser problem. Which browser do you have? PrimeHunter (talk) 17:21, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Urgently need a help

Hello!

I would like to translate a page, wich is already wrote in Wikipedia and I would like it to appear in the box "languages" at the left side of page. How can I do it? Should I create a new page and then link it to existing page with the same title or is there some other way? Please tell me how can I do it!

Thanks:) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.110.70.137 (talk) 17:38, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

It all more or less depends on the language that you want to translate it into. For example, for German, go to the German version of Wikipedia, Give the article its appropriate title in German, and then when your done stick "[[En:Article name on the English wikipedia here]]" and then find the English Version of the article and stick [[de:Article name on the german wikipedia]] on the page. of course it can be done with any language, I have just used german as an example.--Kerotan^{Leave Me a Message} Have a nice day :) 17:48, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Create the page in the Wikipedia for the language. See Wikipedia:Translation and Help:Interlanguage links. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Incorrect birthdate

How do I get an incorrect birthdate corrected? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.181.98.117 (talk) 18:01, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi! Just click the "Edit this page" button at the top of the page, and fix it yourself. :) Stwalkerster [ talk ] 18:03, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Note there should be a published reliable source for the date. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:15, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

MUSEUM HOURS OF OPERATION

WHAT DAYS ARE THE MUSEUM OPEN AND WHEN DOES IT OPEN AND CLOSE ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.227.171.60 (talk) 18:18, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi! Different museums have different opening times, so without knowing which museum, I'm sorry, but we can't help you. Please note: The Help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia, so your question may be more suited to the Reference Desk. Stwalkerster [ talk ] 18:23, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over two million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the online free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If that is not fruitful, we have a reference desk, divided into various subjects areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:16, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

<email removed for security reasons>

i recently changed my original stock radio on my 95 pontiac trans am now when i try to start the car i get a security light flashing on the dash and the car will not start what should i do or is there anything i can do —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eddiegarfontana (talk • contribs) 18:32, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

try the reference desk.--Kerotan^{Leave Me a Message} Have a nice day :) 18:34, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Information regarding decommissioning of LST 504

An article about the 504 states that she was decommissioned in the USA on Jan.22, 1946. The Ships Deck Logs for Januaty 1946 indicate that the decommissioning ceremony took place in Tokyo Bay on January 15 at 4:05pm at which time the 504 was given to the Japanese. Is there a way to correct the erroneous information? I know the January 22 date is incorrect because I was aboard the 504 and participated in the decommissioning ceremony in Tokyo Bay. bobusslst504 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobusslst504 (talk • contribs) 18:36, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

As long as you can find a reference for the new date, it's okay. However, we can't accept original research. Thanks! Jonathan § 18:38, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

The ceremony may not have been held on the actual date that the decommissioning became effective. You can also post your comment on the Discussion page for that article. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 19:19, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Both references in USS Buchanan County (LST-504) say January 22 1946. The article and one reference say it was in the United States. The other reference doesn't give a location. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:25, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

United States communities with African American majority populations

At the bottom of the article on Inglewood, California appears a notation that says: "United States communities with African American majority populations." How did it get there, and how do I get rid of it, since Inglewood in 2000 had a population of only 47.13 percent black or African-American? Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 19:16, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

The categorization is correct. The article says: "The racial makeup of the city was 47.13% Black or African American, 4.1% White, 1.14% Asian, 0.69% Native American, 0.36% Pacific Islander, 27.38% from other races, and 4.20% from two or more races. 46.04% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race." That indicates that there are more Black or African American residents than any other racial group and therefore Black or African American residents are in the majority. However, some people would consider this situation to be a simple majority rather than an absolute majority.Astronaut (talk) 19:40, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Plurality is the largest group but majority should mean more than 50%. Category:United States communities with African American majority populations was added in [7] when the article claimed 51.13% Black or African American in 2000. It currently says 47.13% in 2000. [8] says 47.1%. I don't know where 51.13% came from. And the current numbers only add up to 85%. The article claims 4.1% white and [9] says 19.1%. This change would give the desired 100% total. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:51, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I was about to come back and edit my comment to say "The categorization maybe correct." And of course, I assumed the statistics mentioned in the article were correct :-) Astronaut (talk) 19:54, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Here's how to remove that category from the page: Go to the page and click "edit this page" at the top. Scroll down and about 10 or so lines from the bottom of the text in the edit box, delete this text: [[Category:United States communities with African American majority populations]] . then click "save page". If you're not sure whether the category should be deleted from the page or not, you can discuss it at the talk page for that article, which is Talk:Inglewood, California. If you're confident that it should be deleted, be bold. --Coppertwig (talk) 20:58, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I must have overlooked that line while I was editing the article (many times over). Isn't there a category for "United States communities with LARGE African American populations"? I think I saw that somewhere but have absolutely no idea how to find it. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 21:15, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I navigated around a bit but didn't find that category, so I suspect it doesn't exist. You can search around the categories: for example, you can start by clicking on one of the categories at the bottom of the page you're interested in, or maybe start from this link: Category:African American. When you're on a category page, there are usually subcategories, then a list of pages in that category, and at the very bottom are categories that contain that category. Some categories have no subcategory but all should have at least one category at the very bottom just as ordinary pages do. You can search around among related categories by following those links. I don't think it would be a good idea to create a category about "large" populations because there would be endless arguments about which pages to include or not because how large is "large"? Categories need to be well-defined so it's clear what belongs and what doesn't. For more about categories see Wikipedia:Categories. --Coppertwig (talk) 21:54, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Probably the reason you didn't see the category information when you edited the page is that you were probably looking at the very bottom of the page. At the very bottom are the language links or "interwikis" which provide the links to similar articles in other-language Wikipedias; these links usually show up in the bar on the left when you're viewing the page. --Coppertwig (talk) 21:56, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Reading Answers to my Question.

I wrote a question in the Humanities section of the Reference Desk in December 2007 and would now like to see if any further answers have been added recently. How do I find my original question now that about two or three weeks have passed? Are previous questions archived and if so, how can I access them? Thanks 81.145.242.39 (talk) 20:29, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

A comprehensive archive is mantained at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives. Archives are by month. NF24^{(radio me!)} 20:34, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

If you can think of some search keywords that appeared in your question, you can use a Google custom search:

• click here for a search form

For example, if you posted your question at the same IP address you are using now, you could search for it:

• search the Reference desk/Archives/Humanities for: 81.145.242.39 (but that finds nothing, so maybe you didn't post under that IP address)

--Teratornis (talk) 00:24, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Two similar IP addresses asked questions in the Miscellaneous section December 12 and January 6: Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2007 December 12#It's 7 feet tall, and 102 inches around the waist ? and Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2008 January 6#Learning to speak Spanish. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:28, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Apololigies

I am sorry about the this little piggy error on editing,I was showing my son how to do it & pressed edit by mistake.I did not intentionally vandalise the page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.138.63.32 (talk) 20:34, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. I checked your contributions and it has already been fixed. Thank you for exposing more people to Wikipedia. --Evan Seeds (talk)(contrib.) 20:36, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

The best place to show your son how to edit on Wikipedia is the "sandbox", a page which exists specifically for practice edits, and which automatically clears out several times per day so you don't have to worry about leaving a mess. --Teratornis (talk) 00:13, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

You and your son could also try working through the tutorial. --Teratornis (talk) 00:14, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

(outdent) The reason he came here is that the person that reverted him used {{subst:uw-vand2}} on his talk page rather than {{subst:uw-test1}}. --Thinboy00 @219, i.e. 04:15, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Urgent

I want to write an article about something and I have to use the "n" word in it. Am I allowed? --Kaapse (talk) 21:38, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes. Wikipedia is not censored and profanity may be used in encyclopaedic contexts. NF24^{(radio me!)} 21:43, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Thats some good shit nigger --Kaapse (talk) 21:45, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

And that is a perfect example of what would not be an encyclopedic context and might offend many people. Please don't do that. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 21:49, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm afraid Kaapse won't be responding as I blocked him for a week for his nasty little prank above.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 21:56, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Plus, he is probably a sockpuppet of User:RedTreddersCompainion. -- Meni Rosenfeld (talk) 13:52, 13 January 2008 (UTC)