User talk:Zyxw/Archive 9

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Template:US airport data

Z, thanks for the work you did on this template to allow optional parameters and more generality. Very nice. Can you update the doc page to reflect what the template now allows, so that the articles that use it will more likely get maintained correctly? Dicklyon (talk) 17:59, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Done -- Zyxw (talk) 15:37, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Do you want to comment on this discussion?

Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation pages with links/New York villages within towns#Strong concerns. Cheers! bd2412 T 23:09, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Sorry didn't respond sooner, I did read that page when you posted this and was considering my response. I'll have to go back and take another look at it. -- Zyxw (talk) 21:48, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Towns and Villages of New York State

I am incredibly impressed with the work you put in making the table for the huge number of towns in the List of towns in New York page. Will you be able to make a similar table for List of villages in New York? Inkan1969 (talk) 01:25, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I just updated List of villages in New York. Next up is List of census-designated places in New York. -- Zyxw (talk) 17:56, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

GNIS ID vs. GNIS url

Thanks for making the conversions from template:gnis2 to template:gnis4. I have updated my program which generates those tables to follow your conversion. Thanks! —EncMstr (talk) 20:50, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Always nice to know when others appreciate your efforts. -- Zyxw (talk) 21:48, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Ashburn, Virginia

I noticed you updating some infoboxes in Kansas. Could you please cleanup the infobox for Ashburn, Virginia, which is the location of the primary Wikipedia server center. Thanks. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 10:15, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Infobox updated and references added. -- Zyxw (talk) 15:31, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

References using external link to Wikipedia article for United States Census Bureau?

Hello. Great work with adding missing 2010 census data. However, I was wondering why your bot is using the following external link in the references:

• Code: |publisher={{URL|1=http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/United_States_Census_Bureau|2=United States Census Bureau}}
• Result: United States Census Bureau

Since you are linking to a Wikipedia article, the usual format would be:

• Code: |publisher=[[United States Census Bureau]]
• Result: United States Census Bureau

-- Zyxw (talk) 04:12, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Sorry for the slow response started a new semester at college this week and was busy with that. I had never really contributed to Wikipedia before I started writing the code for those updates that I do, I had only did some typo fixes here and there and some updates to sports articles, by no means was I at all familiar with standards. So when I started doing this I just wanted to make my references look like the Rambot references used for the 2000 sections, problem was he used a template and I was using a normal reference. I just assumed you had to give the |publisher field a url so that was how I did it. Simply put I didn't know you could use a wiki link there at the time. I've continued on doing it this way for consistency sake, I've only seen it come across my watchlist a couple times with people changing it so it doesn't seem like it's that big of deal. Come May, if I'm not mistaken, the US Census Bureau will release the population estimates for July 1st 2012 and I'll be going back over all the pages I've edited to update the population estimate in the infobox. At this time I could change them all over to the wiki link it would be incredibly easy to automate along with the automatic population estimate updates. Jamo2008 (talk) 21:36, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Airport

Heya, fyi responded to comment by a user on Talk:In Aménas Airport which you infoboxed way back in 2007, best regards. In ictu oculi (talk) 02:39, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I posted a response on that talk page. -- Zyxw (talk) 21:48, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Template:GNIS4

Thanks for creating this template, which I expect will ease the maintenance of many articles. —Stepheng3 (talk) 02:04, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Appreciate that you noticed and took the time to comment on it. -- Zyxw (talk) 21:48, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

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Airport in Wisconsin

I notice that you created several articles about airports in Wisconsin over past several the years. Since you're more familiar with the resources available for airport articles, would you please create an airport page for the Town of Palmyra airport just outside of Palmyra, Wisconsin? I photographed the site while on a recent road trip. The images are found at Commons here. Please link to the Commons category.

There is an issue with the name of the article. I see the name reserved for the article is Palmyra Municipal Airport. Notice that the sign for the airport reads "Town of Palmyra Airport". Please be aware of the Political subdivisions of Wisconsin page which describes that the town of Palmyra is different than village of Palmyra. A town is not a municipality. A town is the rural land between villages and cities. So I think that the PDF from the Wisconsin Department of Transportation is wrong, or at least it should be questioned. Royalbroil 14:03, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Done. Regardless of the town's municipal status, I provided several references supporting the name Palmyra Municipal Airport including the Federal Aviation Administration, the Wisconsin Department of Transportation, newspaper articles written this year, and a history from a flying club based at the airport. I also mentioned the airport's other names and included your photo of the sign. -- Zyxw (talk) 16:38, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Great job, thank you! You did the right thing by selecting the name Palmyra Municipal Airport for the article. You did a great job of using the correct terminology for the town versus village. I had no idea that there was a fight going on for the land! I live several hours away and I don't thing that I was ever in Palmyra before. Royalbroil 01:27, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Joshua Sanford Field

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I removed that bot-generated template from the article, since (1) the external link mentioned contains content copied from Wikipedia and (2) that copied content is for DeLand Municipal Airport in Florida, while the article I created is for an different airport in Wisconsin. Fourth time now that this bot has incorrectly flagged a new airport article as being copied from a Wikipedia article for a different airport that was replicated at airports-worldwide.com. -- Zyxw (talk) 09:45, 22 May 2013 (UTC)

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Nav Popups

Hi - I've looked over the various options for Nav Popups and I can't find one for what I'm looking for. Is there an option to add the edit summary to the Nav Popup when previewing a diff?--v/r - TP 19:01, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello. I guess you wound up here since I was credited for a minor contribution made about eight years ago, back when User:Lupin maintained the JavaScript code at User:Lupin/popups.js. Anyway, I looked through Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation popups#Options and could not find an option to include the edit summary when previewing a diff. Personally, I've never found this to be an issue since I generally preview diffs from pages that already show the edit summary, such as watchlist and contribution pages by hovering over (diff) and history pages by hovering over (cur) or (prev). You might want to ask over at Wikipedia talk:Tools/Navigation popups. If you are familiar with JavaScript, you can view the current code at MediaWiki:Gadget-popups.js and make edit requests at MediaWiki talk:Gadget-popups.js. -- Zyxw (talk) 23:19, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Infobox Maldives

I see that you've made some additions to the available fields at Template:Infobox Maldives. It might be a good idea to make corresponding changes in the examples at Template:Infobox Maldives/doc so that others are aware of the possibilities. Deor (talk) 11:37, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Done. -- Zyxw (talk) 23:31, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

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Use of template

Please comment over at https://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Template_talk:Birth_date_and_age#Use_more_than_once_in_an_article.3F - thanks -- Lentower (talk) 15:23, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I added my comment at Template talk:Birth date and age#Use more than once in an article?. -- Zyxw (talk) 16:03, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

hey, thanks for the note about your reply to the separator issue. Indeed, somehow the page wasn't on my watchlist so I would have totally missed your comment otherwise. jhawkinson (talk) 16:54, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Start date and age

Hello! Unless I'm missing something, both {{Start date and age}} and {{Start date and years ago}} currently have merge banners telling editors not to use the template. Is there another template to use, or should one of the banners be altered to indicate the merge target? Thanks! --Tgeairn (talk) 03:24, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I noticed the same thing a few days ago. According to Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 July 31#Template:Start date and age, as of 8 August 2013, "the result of the discussion was merge or reverse merge, which ever makes the most sense." I think it makes more sense keep and use {{Start date and age}} for the following reasons:

• {{Start date and age}} can handle dates with just a year & month (see National Foundation for Popular Culture) or year only (see Jerusalem Retreat Center). {{Start date and years ago}} requires the year, month, and day to work correctly.
• {{Start date and age}} can display the elapsed time in years, months (see Salamanca AC), or days. {{Start date and years ago}} only displays the elapsed time in years.
• {{Start date and age}} is transcluded on 7741 articles (and 9249 pages in all namespaces). {{Start date and years ago}} is transcluded in 1897 articles (and 2079 pages in all namespaces).
• {{Start date and age}} handles future dates, such as 30 June 2014 (2014-06-30). {{Start date and years ago}} displays the same date as 30 June 2014 (2014-06-30).

I recently updated {{Start date and age}} with an option to display the elapsed time within parentheses (see above), which is the same format used by the other template (minus the small font size). I also changed the {{Being deleted}} banner to the redirect {{Being merged}}, but that does not change the text displayed by the banner. I looked at {{Merge from}} and {{Merge to}}, which have more appropriate text, but the instructions say not to use it on a template or category. If you know of a better banner template to use, go for it. In the meantime, my suggestion would be to use {{Start date and age}} in any articles you are updating or creating.

-- Zyxw (talk) 05:09, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your (very complete!) response. I agree with your reasoning that {{Start date and age}} is the best merge target, and I appreciate your updates to reproduce the functionality. Do you have a list of what remaining functionality is needed before the merge can be completed?

In the meantime, I will use {{Start date and age}} when needed. If I get a chance to look at what's left to merge, I'll do so as well. Cheers! --Tgeairn (talk) 04:23, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Broken usage

One of your changes broke the template as used on Louisville teen sexual assault case for several months. Can you please fix the template or undo your changes? --GRuban (talk) 13:25, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

In the meantime, I updated the template usage at that article. Looking back through the template documentation (at least back two years), I don't see where month names were ever allowed. Feel free to revert if needed. --Tgeairn (talk) 14:49, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi and thanks for the information. That usage (a single parameter containing "August 2011") was not documented, but I reverted my last update until I have time to run some test cases on unexpected input. -- Zyxw (talk) 18:57, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

UPDATE: Three days later I re-implemented my updates, this time without breaking the undocumented usage of dates contained in a single parameter, such as "August 2011", "21 August 2011", or "August 21, 2011". See examples at Template:Start date and age/testcases#Undocumented usage. -- Zyxw (talk) 10:47, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

TemplateData

Thanks for adding the TemplateData to {{USOC profile}}. Note that you need to do a null edit to the main template page to get the system to recognise the data. I've done the necessary null edit.--User:Salix alba (talk): 07:08, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the information and the edit. -- Zyxw (talk) 10:22, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Enterprise Municipal Airport (Oregon)

Hi Zyxw. I noticed that you moved Enterprise Municipal Airport, Oregon to Enterprise Municipal Airport (Oregon) with the edit summary "standard format for airport disambiguation is parentheses when state is not part of name". The policy at Wikipedia:Article_titles#Disambiguation, is to use a comma, and that is the guidance also given at Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Style guide/Naming (Airports). There are various reasons for this, one of which is that it is natural to write Enterprise Municipal Airport, Oregon in a sentence, but it isn't natural to write Enterprise Municipal Airport (Oregon), therefore editors have to write [[Enterprise Municipal Airport (Oregon)|Enterprise Municipal Airport, Oregon]] when linking to the article. It is also awkward and clumsy for readers to see brackets. I note that a number of other airport articles were also moved from Comma-separated to Parenthetical disambiguation. I am quite comfortable with doing those moves again, but thought I'd raise it with you first, in case you wanted to talk over it a bit more. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 01:04, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Hello and thanks for the heads up. Here are my comments:

• I disagree with your interpretation of Wikipedia:Article titles#Disambiguation in regards to the names of articles about airports. The natural disambiguation section states "If it exists, choose an alternative name that the subject is also commonly called in English, albeit not as commonly as the preferred-but-ambiguous title." I do not agree that the airport in question is commonly called "Enterprise Municipal Airport, Oregon". In my experience researching and working on airport articles over the years, common names in the format "Airport Name, Location" are not the norm. An example where that would be the common name is airports in Norway, such as Førde Airport, Bringeland and Førde Airport, Øyrane.
• Wikipedia:Article titles#Disambiguation also contains a section on comma-separated disambiguation which states "if the disambiguating term is a higher-level administrative division, it is often separated using a comma instead of parentheses, as in Windsor, Berkshire (see Geographic names)." I interpret this to mean "Enterprise, Oregon" is appropriate because Oregon is a "higher-level administrative division" of the city of Enterprise. I do not agree that this section applies to airport names.
• There are currently over 600 airport articles disambiguated by location which use parentheses in the format "Airport Name (Location)". By my count, you moved 27 of those articles to use commas back in January. Another editor renamed two of your moves in April and I did the other 25 in June.
• The guidance you refer to at Wikipedia:WikiProject Aviation/Style guide/Naming (Airports) was added by you in this edit, made immediately after you moved those airport articles. Reading over your addition there, I agree with "use WP:NATURAL disambiguation where possible" (see my previous examples of airports in Norway). However, I do not agree with "if not, use comma-separated disambiguation over parentheses, using a higher-level administrative division such as Jackson County Airport, North Carolina". I did not see any prior discussion about this at the associated talk page so, unless there was some discussion elsewhere, the statement you added was not a consensus of WikiProject Aviation.
• Your example of [[Enterprise Municipal Airport (Oregon)|Enterprise Municipal Airport, Oregon]] is not a common usage. Most links to airport names (excluding those from navigation boxes) occur in articles about places served by the airport, such as Enterprise, Oregon or List of airports in Oregon, which use [[Enterprise Municipal Airport (Oregon)|Enterprise Municipal Airport]]. Switching to comma-separated disambiguation would only change those links to [[Enterprise Municipal Airport, Oregon|Enterprise Municipal Airport]].

If you still feel that airport articles disambiguated by location should use a comma rather than parentheses, I would request that you bring this to Wikipedia:Requested moves or another forum where others would have an opportunity to comment. If the consensus is to use a comma instead of parentheses, then ALL of those 600-plus articles should be moved. -- Zyxw (talk) 10:23, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Ha. I hadn't recalled it was me who had updated the style guide! OK, I'll start a requested move. SilkTork ^{✔Tea time} 13:01, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Springwater (Barrie Airpark) & Treherne (South Norfolk Airpark)

Thanks for pointing them out. I moved both of them to using Aerodrome. I suspect that there are others. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 16:46, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of ETUL

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A tag has been placed on ETUL requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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I was off Wikipedia for a bit and missed this one before it was deleted. I believe that ETUL was simply a redirect to RAF Laarbruch based on its ICAO code as listed in the article. We have many such redirects in Wikipedia, so I am not sure how that meets section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion. However, if you felt that strongly about it, I won't recreate it. -- Zyxw (talk) 06:39, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:NWS-current

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Thanks for the heads up. I have added my comments at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2013 December 25#Template:NWS-current. -- Zyxw (talk) 06:45, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

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