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==The site TITUS have some old texts of old languages not available elsewhere, e.g. the Khotanese language, there is no elsewhere site give the samples==Gaia2767spm 23:54, 14 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

There are sample texts in TITUS project. The wikipedia page do not have a text sample and TITUS project has. There are links of glossaries that helps readers. For the less known languages, isn't the samples and the glossaries useful?Gaia2767spm 00:28, 15 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Some materials are copyrighted and external links needed. People have bias, perhaps u r right that TITUS and the Indo-european database may not be valuable to the pages. But there is to contribute and no mean to spam,Gaia2767spm 01:07, 15 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

A double revert by u may be needed for u r point. 1. For a language, relevant sample texts are helpful for readers to know more about the language. So are now in external links of many other languages wikipages. 2. For a modern language, an external link of radio would be better examples, so TITUS may not be relevant. For old languages, the readers may want to know more, e.g. for big structure and word list, the external links supports wikipedia pages, for reasons of copyright, completion of ideas and limitation in size of wikipedia pages, the less important information may be links for further reading of the readers. 3. The TITUS and the The Indo-European Database have been suggested by contributors earlier, e.g. in pages Proto-Indo-European language&Lydian language, so there should be some value in that.Gaia2767spm 10:48, 15 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

If u sure u r points are right, and is better for the readers, then any revert would ok.Gaia2767spm 11:00, 15 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Know what is spamming as user:Gareth Hughes told. Sorry for adding too many links from the same site to the pages.Gaia2767spm 15:52, 15 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Periyar

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Sorry thought it was a vandalism and reverted it. Anyways the section on Ramasami and Tamil Language is too blunt now. May be should remove the whole section. Thanks. ώiki Ѕαи Яоzε †αLҝ 00:54, 20 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

== Pandyas ==

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Parthi, While the Chola history has been covered in great detail, thanks to you and others, I feel the Pandyan history could use some time and effort. Esp., the Sangam age and the second empire (12th-13th century). I started working on the early pandyas few days back - along the lines of the Chola articles. It's still under development, but I think the article would need some expert involvement, given the importance. So, please look through it when you have time and comment. Thanks Lotlil 14:44, 21 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

I have written the society section in my sandbox that I will be scrubbing and adding references to, before creating an article for it. Please also review it and edit, as you see fit. Thanks! Lotlil 17:30, 23 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
Parthi, I started writing the sandbox article intending to make it a side-article for the main article Early Pandyan Kingdom. I've been using material from books or sections that deal with Pandyas. If you would like to expand it into Ancient Tamil Society, we can work on that too, I dont think it will be too different. We will have more sources to quote from. In any case, let me know once you get a chance to go through the main article. I will work on adding references to my sandbox in the mean time . Lotlil 23:41, 23 June 2007 (UTC)Reply
Please check your email. Thanks. Lotlil 12:33, 29 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Chera Dynasty

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Hello. Why did you feel the need to revert my changes from Chera Dynasty article? - Goldenhawk 0 —Preceding comment was added at 01:41, 25 December 2007 (UTC)Reply

Carnatic Music: Multiple Trinities

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Venu

This is regarding the Carnatic Music article. I inserted a para in the composers section stating that there are historically different sets of composers designated as Trinity and did not delete the section on the Thayagaraja-Muthuswami-Shyama trinity. However I find that a user called Gnanapiti keeps reverting the edit calling it false history. I actually even cited the book by U.V.Saminatha Iyer called "Sangeetha Mummanikal" where he lists Kanam Krishna Iyer, Gopalakrishna Bharathi and another composer as the Mummanikal. There have been about three cycles of edit-reversal within the past few hours. How does one go about this now?

Thanks. Chandrasekaran.

Venu

Thanks for your reply. However is there not a Wiki process to arbitrate or even lock the page in these situations?

Chandrasekaran

Periyar

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A few other users complained about fancruft so I changed the page tom the sourced and fairly balanced version at Talk:E._V._Ramasami_Naicker/A.Bakaman 16:20, 27 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Just delete the image if ther eis a problem I bleeived it was PD-old -so public domain ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 10:06, 28 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Retrieving a source from another site providing it is PD old qualifies as fair use. If the image itself is in the public domain -e.g produced before 1947 I think it is in India then it is a free image. Do you have any reason to beleive it is recent? ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 10:24, 28 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Ah I see thanks -but please do not tell me what to do. I beleive then it still qualifies as fair use but if you object to the image for a personal reason then feel free to delete - note though you speedied the image yet the tag was on it for many hours and it still wasn't deleted. the wiki deleter obviuosly wasn't convinced about it ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 10:35, 28 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Thats the best thing to do is to peer review. Personally I have no objection if you want to delete it but I thought it was an asset and improvment to the article thats all. ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ "Expecting you" Contribs 11:05, 28 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Image

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Hi there, I was just curious what about the copyright status of this image which is used all over the place? No, I'm not going to tag that image. Because I don't believe in editing in bad faith. Gnanapiti 02:54, 6 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

You didn't answer about the status of above mentioned image. Are you going to tag that image too? Gnanapiti 03:07, 6 July 2007 (UTC)Reply
This is exactly what I call editing in bad faith. As I already said, I'm not going to tag that image. As long as due credit is given to copyright holder and the image is informative, I don't have any problems with images. I don't believe in disruptive editing unlike you. Gnanapiti 03:41, 6 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Sarvagyna

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Hi Parthi, Thanks for telling me about Sarvagyna's tagging of some of my (uploaded) images. The images already have the names of the photographers, the dates, as well as statements that they are in the public domain in their respective documentation. Thanks also for reverting Sarvagyna's bad faith edits. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 20:24, 7 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Talk:India

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Hi, just wanted to know. Do you derive any sadistic pleasure by making unnecessary personal attacks on me? Gnanapiti 04:57, 17 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

TfD nomination of Template:Eastern Chalukya infobox

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Template:Eastern Chalukya infobox has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Lilac Soul 09:22, 18 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Maps

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Parthi, I'm trying to create a map showing the location of 10-15 cities in ancient Tamilakam, for use in Economy of Ancient Tamil Country. I have a book that shows these locations but in different maps (3-4 cities per map), I wanted to collect all of them into one. What's the best way to do this? Lotlil 04:01, 19 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Private Venu

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1:you have contributed a lot to Wikipedia particurly to Tamil.Thanks a lot.But I am sorry to say that certain editors do not like us and want to vandalise amd make us go like the marathi editors. Sarvagnya was a confirmed sockpupporter and Gnanapati is his sock [1] However due to help from Binguyen.[2] Later a drama was done with a so called second check not given to any other user and his friend used from another location and he was let off. Confirmed [3] Further Evidence [4] Further Evidence [5] Both have similar userpages [6] and [7] They are same user.They edit the same articles which they are not supposed to do.[8]

Please read below above Binguyen

[9] He cheated and lied during the Arbitition Victim [10] Now Tamil editors There is a Singalese/Kannada Tag team which vandalises articles and they plan to make us leave Wikipedia.Anyway I have left even before I joined. [11] Read here [12] Read here [13] Regards Adyarboy

Same editors wanted us to leave

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1:you have contributed a lot to Wikipedia particurly to Tamil.Thanks a lot.But I am sorry to say that certain editors do not like us and want to vandalise amd make us go like the marathi editors. Sarvagnya was a confirmed sockpupporter and Gnanapati is his sock [14] However due to help from Binguyen.[15] Later a drama was done with a so called second check not given to any other user and his friend used from another location and he was let off. Confirmed [16] Further Evidence [17] Further Evidence [18] Both have similar userpages [19] and [20] They are same user.They edit the same articles which they are not supposed to do.[21]

Please read below above Binguyen

[22] He cheated and lied during the Arbitition Victim [23] Now Tamil editors There is a Singalese/Kannada Tag team which vandalises articles and they plan to make us leave Wikipedia.Anyway I have left even before I joined. [24] Read here [25] Read here [26] Regards Adyarboy

Thanks

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Thanks for the barnstar, Parthi. This summer has been unusually light at work for me, which is why I was able to spend much time on wiki. It may not last long, though :). Lotlil 13:18, 31 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Tevaram & Thevaram (Verses)

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I see that you have redirected the Thevaram(Verses) page. You've neither put this proposal up a merge discussion nor have you captured all the information into Tevaram page. I've now created a merge proposal. --Natrajdr 13:48, 31 July 2007 (UTC)Reply

Sure

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We shall definitely do that, Parthi. It's time we created another FA. Lotlil surely looks like a great contributor. I do hope you're able to recover some time and enthusiasm for the project soon. I'll do whatever I can. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 05:40, 2 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Trolling

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Parthi, I dont know if 3RR applies to user talk pages. Just thought I'd remind you to watch out for it while you are dealing with the vandalism here.Lotlil 23:43, 3 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Khandoba

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Oh i missed you fighting the endless battle reverting Vishal's vandalism. How can we put the article in the mode so thaT ONLY REGISTERED users can make changes so we can stop the continuous vandalism attempts??? Do i put this tag---{{sprotected}} --Redtigerxyz 13:13, 6 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Thanks. --Redtigerxyz 12:08, 7 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Sources

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Parthi, I've added the sources section to the Economy of ancient Tamil country article, per your suggestion.Lotlil 05:50, 7 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Please do not trash other editors pages

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Your hypocrisy evidenced when you say "Please don't preach to me regarding policies etc. You would benefit a great deal in familiarising yourself with some of the policies" is not appreciated by any Wikipedian, nor is it when you trash other people's talk pages. With regards to the article in question, perhaps you ought to read it before claiming that there has been plagiarism. Your trolling is unwelcome. Thanks :) and have a good day. Ncmvocalist 11:22, 13 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Bhagavannama Bodhendra Saraswathi

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Hi, you prodded this article as being a copyright violation. Just for future reference, you can request speedy deletion of blatant copyvios using {{db-copyvio}} -- lucasbfr talk 18:41, 16 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

On your comments on my edits on cholas:Pls be careful about your vocabulary

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Dear Mr.Venu , I have read your comments about my contributions on chola history.

I'd like to make the following observations. i like to say that your opinions on imperial cholas and pallavas have sidestepped a few facts. The rule of pallavas and cholas ended effectively 800 years ago. After that there were invasions all of them if not totally destructive it is possible that quite a lot of material and documentation could have been lost.

It is also possible that QUITE A FEW OF inscriptions and copperplate grants could have been doctored, forged and written at a later date to suit the rule of succeeding dynasties.This if not anything else points to the corruption which was gradually taking roots during the period and eroding the culture. so beautifully explained by some eulogists in their grants as excessive wickedness of age of kali.

Like wise i'd like here to contest the well accepted fact that one of the daughters of Raja Raja and Rajendra married "eastern chalukyan" kings. My rejection of this is based on two things. The first one is that some inscriptions of Raja Raja published by ASI in 1990 say that he conquered among other countries the country called vengi in andhra supposed to be the kingdom of a branch of chalukyas. Given this invasion it is very unlikely that Raja Raja who was known as much for his intelligence as for his military prowess would have gone in for a matrimonial relationship with them of all. I like to observe here that we are trying to explore truth and not trying to write scripts for a movie or a potboiler where the so called central figure accepts and corrects a prodigal and agrees for a relation ship with him.Inscriptions of Rajendra also mention Vengi as a tributary kingdom.

The reason for my doubt is based on common sense. It has accepted widely that kulothunga came to throne in 1070 after the death of athi rajendra chola the last prince of male descendants line of vijayalaya. This kulottunga is a scion of chola clan from a collateral lineage, a cousin of Athi Rajendra. The most popular and widely accepted view is that he is a descendent of a vassal chalukya family. This however seems very improbable and raises some questions. The Cholas took throne names Rajakesarin and Parakesarin alternatively in the order of their coronation. This is probably to acknowledge their descent from kings with those names who lived many centuries ago. We see one of these titles in kulottunga’s inscriptions. It is difficult to believe that an impostor pretending to be a chola scion could have ruled for such a long period and even left heirs to the throne. In accordance with the tradition followed, it would not have been possible for a person who has descended even partly from some one who does not belong to the clan of cholas( As is supposed in case of kulottunga chola), to be entitled the legacy of coronation ceremony precursor to kinship, in those places like pazhayarai, seingaloor,karoor, uraiyur and Chidambaram which for centuries from times immemorial hosted the coronation ceremonies of chola princes. To increase the complexity of the situation, we also know from one of unpublished inscriptions of Chidambaram temple that, KULOTTUNGA WAS ALSO A TITLE TAKEN BY ILLUSTRIOUS RAJENDRA CHOLA 1.


But How is it possible that a person(kulothunga) whose identity was never clear before, a person not used to creating or taking charge of such a huge empire, a person whose country saw a lot of wars be accepted and trusted by common courtiers let alone by the powerful commanders of chola military and especially the illustrious pallava chiefs of kancheepuram would have utilized the disagreements arising out of such a scenario to spur a pallava revival. I can accept the fact that after 1190 the empire started to decline slowly. My reasoning that due to chola colonization of south east asia some prices might have sought to go there to support the army and after sometime would have chosen not to come back. As a result of this there might have been a partial anarchy gradually developing into weakness. This question may be answered some time and i believe it will be.

Like the well known journalist Mark Tully once said in a conference, if hypocrisy is a British disease then envy is Asian. I have to say that i accept his proposition.

Finally be a bit careful about your vocabulary, for i need not waste my time on internet editing pages, IF ALL I KNOW IS JUST NONSENSE. By using such words freely , you will only be making enemies out of people . If you have anything to say, you can write back tome at: tiger_tom@india.com and also call me@09871026217(India). I LIKE TO PUT IT ACROSS THAT I STRONGLY BACK MYSELF FOR MY VIEWS ON THE SUBJECT AND SHALL BE SO FOREVER. Greets!


Fair use rationale for Image:Ottosoglow littleking.jpg

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Help

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{{help}} If a new user asks for help u will take it out as spam and vandalism. Is this your culture.I want to contribute to wiki. I was trying to take the date out of that picture. i uploaded 3 times no use no improvement. I thought you are a senoir wikipedian and offer some help. But you did not help me thank you --S172142230149 04:17, 23 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

rm helpme tag since you're obviously not the one asking for help ;) -- lucasbfr talk 09:21, 23 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Hello

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Hi Venu, Highly impressed with your work on Wikipedia.How do you keep in touch with Indian history while staying in Australia? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sriharsha wiki (talkcontribs) 04:45, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

Urgent: India page

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Hi Venu62, Since you are one of the people who made substantial comments in the last RfC we had on the Talk:India page concerning addition of new material (see here), I thought I would get your opinion about a new development. Yesterday, out of the blue, Blnguyen, who has no history of editing on the India page, made a post on the page suggesting that the India page be expanded to twice its size, which needless to say, has created a lot of confusion. Please see this section of the talk page there. As a result, User:Sarvagnya, for example, has returned to his scheme for de-constructing the India page. (By way of background: Nichalp, who usually watched over the article is busy this summer; Ragib, who was subbing for Nichalp is busy too. Blnguyen seems to think that the page is in bad shape and is about to be de-FA'd. He feels that it needs many more citations (and their lack) is reason enough for it to fail an FAR. Nichalp, when he was active, discouraged over-crowding the text with too many citations (especially when the text was composed in the summary-style, as India is). I think Blnguyen has some valid points: the page needs more (and certainly better) citations and the prose (especially of some new sections that were created by other people) needs revamping, but I think you might be in a better position to assess Blnguyen's idea of expanding the article to twice its size.) Regards, Fowler&fowler«Talk» 12:05, 24 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Economy of ancient Tamil country

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Parthi, I wanted to nominate this article for GA status. You had mentioned some prose issues in your last comment on the peer review and there has been some cpediting on the article since then. Just wanted to get your opinion on moving it to GAC. Lotlil 01:13, 25 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

On chola history!

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Dear Mr. Venu, Pls kindly stop writing on history of cholas. That is seemingly not your area of expertise. Your writings about some of the rulers makes me laugh and cry at the same time. The reason why a vast majority of research community feels that internet is not at all a reliable source of information is that people just go about filling webpages on subjects according their whims and fancies. why do not you write things about other minor dynasties like vijayanagaram and chalukyas? Greets! K.Sethumadhavan —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vyaghradhataki (talkcontribs) 06:00, August 26, 2007 (UTC)

Cpedit

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Parthi, I've left a request with the three users you mentioned for cpediting the article. I will skip the GA part and just go to FAC when it's ready. If you get some time in the meanwhile, please suggest anything that needs to be addressed (for one: the map looks a bit amateurish, but I'm just going to leave it that way for now). BTW, I was looking at the Thirukkural article recently, it needs to be made much better than what it is now, given the importance of the subject. Later. Lotlil 13:34, 27 August 2007 (UTC)Reply

Carnatic

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Decisions that were made just last year about this article, and already you have decided to change your mind. I suggest edit out the lop-sided sentence you have put at the front of the article. The rest of us editors have privately agreed to be very strict about the guidelines of this article if you, Aadal, Sarvagnya and anyone else instigate edit wars like you used to, and which you seem hell bent on doing now.

Your fact tags aren't accepted in this part of the article as it is a summary, so please stop littering the article. Ncmvocalist 05:38, 10 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

On Karikalan and Chenkuttuvan' dates

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Hi, Venu62, remember senthilkumaras ... we once had a heated argument over these dates. Look into wikipedia Gajabahu synchronism for the latest accepted Senguttuvan dates. and cool down, commonsense always prevails . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.69.103 (talk) 14:10, 13 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

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I do so with any redlinked user mysteriously well versed in wikipedia tools that jumps into a revert war as their first and only edits. I dont really think it is a coincidence.Bakaman 17:30, 29 September 2007 (UTC)Reply

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your qualifications please..

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how about publishing your qualifications, like where you studied, what your theses was etc.., in the 'About Me' section. It helps in weighing your article, right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.11.74.154 (talk) 12:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

Need help fighting the Vandal who claims to be User:Vishal1976

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I checked the IP addresses who vandal articles Khandoba, Jyotiba, Ponwar, Agnivanshi and recently my user page. All trace to a building in Prabhadevi, mumbai. What can be done to block tghese IPs. Where do i complaim? Thanks. --Redtigerxyz 11:58, 15 November 2007 (UTC)Reply

A relief that you are back

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Having considered several times whether to leave you a comment regarding the repeated deletion of material that you'd originally put into the article, I decided not to given your absence from Wikipedia. Although we have had our differences, especially in these areas in Carnatic music, I was relieved to see that you are back - hopefully to bring anything else you have on the topic. I was wondering if you had any other verifiable/reliable references that may be relevant (to this part of the article that they keep trying to delete)? Ncmvocalist (talk) 13:58, 12 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

It is very unfortunate indeed. That sort of bullying can be reported for a violation of several policies. Ncmvocalist (talk) 05:37, 15 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Edit summary

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Hi Venu,
In one of the edit summaries to your today's edits in Carnatic Music article, you have used the term "Kannada tag team". I request you not to use any such phrases hereafter. If you have any issues or concerns with a particular user(s), please take it to them instead of generalising it to a language/state. I hope you understand. Thanks - KNM Talk 03:28, 13 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

I agree with KNMs valuable suggestion.Naadapriya (talk) 22:38, 15 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

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Speedy deletion of Template:Chola kings

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"Bangalore "vs "Bengaluru", again

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Chola Dynasty

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Qns

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I have a couple of questions on Aadal's page that I would be grateful if you could look at and comment on if possible. --Relata refero (disp.) 15:08, 23 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

I need your help and would like you to become my admin... is that possible

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Respected Venu Sir,

This is N.Srinivasan in Delhi, I am 44 years old and am working as PPS in Central Government. I live in Ghaziabad, U.P.

I accidentally chanced upon a few history pages of wikipedia among others while trying to retrieve some information related to some project for my son who was in the 9th Std.

I was however, saddened to learn that (without ever trying to be competitive) the history pages of both Western Chalukyas and the Cholas have been subject to rampant vandalization especially with regard to the attempted portrayal of the Chalukya kings as being lovers or art or as exhibiting exemplary conduct and at the same time trying to portray the Chola kings in a relatively poor light, this despite the fact that during the entire existence of the Later Chalukya kings, not an inch of territory of Tamizhakam belonged to them and the Chola kings inflicted defeat after defeat on them. (here, let me add that I am not trying to be jingoistic but relying purely on historical inscriptions and other epigraphical evidence and not on historians from any part of the country (though historians could be prejudiced on regional lines, yet the more accurate and respected ones among these historians would nonetheless, have relied almost entirely on inscriptional and epigraphical evidences while writing about various empires, kings and kingdoms that ruled various parts of India).

therefore, the problems I encountered have been the following:

First of all I am very new to encyclopedia and currently I have been trying to contribute material (based strictly on epigraphical evidence, mainly inscriptions) on Chola, Chalukya and Pallava dynasties. I really do not know how to place or link epigraphical evidence such as inscriptions in support historical events/incidents during the times of the above named dynasties. To sum it up, I am a very poor editor, Sir, but I am sincere in trying to scour for facts and accurate ones at that.

Secondly, certainly I am lacking knowledge in various outlets for proper intellectual discussion with other editors or 'historians' and have found to my dismay that while I tried to present facts and make a submission, I did not get a reply in kind (in fact, the treatment meted out to me was quite dismissive, if not disdainful, to say the least), in fact, what saddened me was that established persons like KNM, Dineshkannambadi etc. would like to lecture and preach but did not get down to guiding me on how to go about (properly, I guess) editing and building history pages, preferably without attracting negative tags etc.

To start with, Sir, I would like you to become my admin.

Would that be possible? Do reply to me either on your talk page or mine. In anticipation of your positive response, I remain.

Thanks

06:14, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Dear Srinivasan, unfortunately, Venu62 has left the Wikipedia project. Please try Wikipedia:Mentorship if you need someone to guide you. I appreciate your effort towards adding information supported by epigraphy. Please take care to cite reliable sources in support of any fact that you may add. Then nobody will stop you. Please ask me if you need some help. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 06:42, 24 April 2008 (UTC)Reply

Image:Chola country.png listed for deletion

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Work to do

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Hi Parthi/Venu, I've noticed your tireless work against the POV vandals like Srkris and others. I am trying to undo much of the uncited, POV garbage that has been left in several articles by the agenda coterie who are blatantly promoting their own websites and also their 'community' nonsense. If there are articles in which we can work together, specially language and history related ones, let me know. Also, I like to you take a look at this and leave your comments. Thanks Sudharsansn (talk · contribs) 23:21, 15 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

The Minotaur

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Hello Theseus, Would you like to slay the Minotaur? If so, please view him here. I'm not sure, though, if we have an Ariadne to lure you. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 22:42, 21 November 2008 (UTC)Reply

Happy New Year 2009!!

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Happy New Year Venu62!!!! I wish for you and your family to have a wonderful 2009!!! Have fun partying and may you make many edits!!!

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File:Tamil lit 50px.png listed for deletion

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The image on http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/File:Vatteluttu.png does not appear to be yours.

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Hi,

I was browsing http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Tamil_language which is when I chanced on the image http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/File:Vatteluttu.png.

The image you use there is, with a great degree of certainty, my image, from http://www.cis.udel.edu/~rajagopa/Images/IndiaTrip/BrihadeeshwararTemple/55440022.jpg. If it is not indeed your image, to call it "Your own image" is just false, and downright offensive, and illegal to boot. Pretty much every nuance of light and shadow in the image is an exact copy of my image.

You may, of course, have a different provenance to it.

If so, please include the image provenance in the Wikipedia site ("my own image" doesn't quite cut it). If your image is indeed from my site, I expect you to credit me for the image. But before that you should be asking me. I have no issue with the use of my images--even high resolution images, and free, but it is only fair for me to require that you ask me before.

I noticed that you have a Ph.D. as well; I am sure you appreciate the process of crediting prior art and someone else's work.

Thanks, Sundaram M. Rajagopalan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dylanthomasfan (talkcontribs) 15:22, 7 January 2009 (UTC)Reply

Dear sir, I also think that the image in question is not Vatteluttu at all. Jamadagni (talk) 18:58, 28 January 2011 (UTC)Reply

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Sangam landscapes

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Sir, first of all, you've done a great job with the article Sangam landscapes. I find that table, especially, very informative and would love to have it on my userpage. Finding that you are the writer of the article, I wish to tell you and also request your permission to put the table on my userpage. Thanks-The EnforcerOffice of the secret service 17:50, 24 February 2009 (UTC)Reply

NowCommons: File:Rajaraja mural.jpg

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Hi,

Are you an administrator? Could you help with this user 124.123.128.162 / 124.123.44.147 - he is frequently changing content without references; and is removing content for which references have been provided. Do I get his IP blocked or have him warned? Thanks. --= No ||| Illusion = (talk) 12:47, 26 November 2009 (UTC)MayasutraReply

Mabappalam

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On the map Rajendra map new.png you uploaded, there is a place with a name "Mabappalam". I can't find any reference to this place elsewhere. Could you provide me with a bit more information about this place? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Visoot (talkcontribs) 05:16, 19 December 2009 (UTC)Reply

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You are now a Reviewer

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File:Madras famine 1877.jpg

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is the map about the chole dynasty true ??

the central part seems to be edited in photoshop.......... ur comments ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.22.43.13 (talk) 04:03, 10 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

Rajendra map new.svg

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I redrew the png in vector format; but some of the names of locations in the png were obscured by overpainting with the "Chola Subordinates" area color so I have left them out. I uploaded a new png exported from my .svg as well.

If the missing names are important then either edit the files or drop me a message and I will correct!

gs (talk) 12:26, 21 March 2011 (UTC)Reply

Chera dynasty

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Wotcher,

The articles related (esp. Chera dynasty) are being destroyed by a user, please help me to make it as before.

(Rameez pp (talk) 16:10, 23 April 2011 (UTC))Reply

Expanding the article Chera dynasty

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How about expanding the article Chera dynasty? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.118.73.77 (talk) 06:41, 23 May 2011 (UTC)Reply

Indeed, the article requires further expansion.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.117.211.100 (talk) 10:19, 21 June 2011 (UTC)Reply 

Invite to WikiConference India 2011

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But the activities start now with the 100 day long WikiOutreach.

As you are part of WikiProject India community we invite you to be there for conference and share your experience. Thank you for your contributions.

We look forward to see you at Mumbai on 18-20 November 2011

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History of Tamil Nadu

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Just wish to inform you that I've nominated History of Tamil Nadu for an FAR. -RaviMy Tea Kadai 05:48, 11 April 2013 (UTC) FAR opened formally 19:23, 13 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

A cup of tea for you!

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Great work Perumalism Chat 17:54, 30 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Request for permission from BBC Worldwide

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Hello!

Greetings from Mumbai, India

We, at BBC Worldwide, are producing a series involving human-interest stories, based on history and mythology, where the storytelling style is modern docu-contemporary. The series is essentially an unprecedented, definitive list of the people, moments and stories that have contributed to India as we know it today. This list covers the most iconic faces, incidents and things in Indian history, across different categories.

We would like to use some material we found online, as visual support for this series. Please do let us know if you hold the rights for the following images and if yes, then please let us know how we can proceed on acquiring this visual as well as getting permissions to use the same. We will, of course, provide an acknowledgment/credit/ footage courtesy on the show.

Link

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http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/File:Rajaraja_mural-2.jpg

Hope to hear from you at the earliest. We really appreciate the help.

Thanking you,

Warm Regards,

Tangella Madhavi Researcher BBC Worldwide — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.60.146.39 (talk) 10:50, 13 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox Chola

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requesting an image.

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Hi. I am Dilexson from colombo, SriLanka. just wanted to ask whether you have a high definition version of Rajaraja chola's drawing from thanjai temple. i am the editor of the tamil society in colombo university. I'd really like to have an image since we are looking for a cover for our annual year book.it's like a magazine only we release it yeary. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dilexson Sk (talkcontribs) 14:11, 7 February 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Regarding a discussion about south indian history

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Hello sir

      Im a college student from tamil nadu, i was looking to do an history video about chola empire on youtube and stumbled upon your articles in this site

i was wondering if i can get to chat with you about this topic in a email or another type of conversation

please let me know thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bala6507 (talkcontribs) 21:45, 24 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

Fair Use in Australia discussion

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As an Australian Wikipedian, your opinion is sought on a proposal to advocate for the introduction of Fair Use into Australian copyright law. The discussion is taking place at the Australian Wikipedians' notice board, please read the proposal and comment there. MediaWiki message delivery MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:08, 2 March 2017 (UTC)Reply

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Nomination for deletion of Template:HistoryOfTN

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Template:HistoryOfTN has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 04:25, 29 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

I just edited one of your articles on Tiruvottriyur Tyagayyar. Can you please help me out with more information and the souces that you have? I am just a student from Hyderabad. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DSVSRK (talkcontribs) 16:18, 31 May 2018 (UTC)Reply

Proposed deletion of Rajaraja Narendra

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Proposed deletion of File:Vijayalaya empire sm.jpg

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Proposed deletion of File:Chalukya territories new.png

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File source problem with File:Chola inscriptions.jpg

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Thank you for uploading File:Chola inscriptions.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, please add a link to the page from which it was taken, together with a brief restatement of the website's terms of use of its content. If the original copyright holder is a party unaffiliated with the website, that author should also be credited. Please add this information by editing the image description page.

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Proposed deletion of File:Tamil brahmi.jpg

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A category or categories you have created have been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 October 1 § Category:WikiProject X members on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Qwerfjkltalk 09:31, 2 October 2023 (UTC)Reply