User talk:Theroadislong/Archive 4
Hooray for Teapot George
editGeorge is one of the greatest disciplinarians on the Wiki community. Good on you pal!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bigwhitetelephone (talk • contribs) 17:36, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
COI request
editRe: Geoffrey Beattie page. Apologies - previously unaware of COI issue. Major revisions now undertaken. Please advise of any further changes that are needed. Many thanks.--Lsale11 (talk) 14:10, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
COI request
editI currently work at Lincoln Community School and am trying to bring our page in line with the reality of the school. Our school fees have been listed on our Wikipedia page for years without raising any flags. If this is an issue we can take it off. I would also like the tag taken off that says this is a COI. I am trying to bring our page up to proper Wikipedia standards and instead am only getting our page flagged and knocked down. Please help instead of just knocking this down. I have included a thing about me that says I work for Lincoln Community School. We are not trying to hide anything, only get correct information out there. Thanks. awchilds (talk) 13:28, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
- You should explain your conflict of interest on the article talk page and ask for any changes to be made there. Any content you add will need reliable third party references. The article is written like an advert with NO references at all. Wikipedia is NOT the place to promote your school?TeapotgeorgeTalk 13:31, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for the help. All of the content on the page was added by others. I have only been tweaking here and there. I totally understand taking off the fees (they have been there for years). I am also going through the article and trying to link to outside sources. I just linked our accreditation. If there are other major content changes that we feel would help the article I will submit them on the talk page. Also, I have included a section on my user page stating that I work for the school. We just want to make sure the information is accurate and up to date. I will continue to look for outside sources. Any other advice on getting the flags taken down would be very helpful. We have also fully reviewed the info on COI and Neutral Point of View and will attempt to stay fully in line. Thanks again for your help! awchilds (talk) 13:47, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
- What else needs to happen to get the unreferenced, coi, and advert tags taken off of the Lincoln Community School page? If you look at a number of different international schools they all have the same sort of information (International School Manila International School of Geneva) and none of those have been marked as advertisements. Also, the account awchilds has not been a major contributor to the content of the page. The majority of the page was written in 2006. The awchilds account has only corrected sentence structure, grammer, and a number here or there. There is also a clear note on both the talk page of the article as well as the user page that clearly states any connection between the user and the subject of the page. What else needs to happen to get this page treated as a normal wikipedia entry again? Thanks again for any guidance! awchilds (talk) 08:32, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
- I just noticed your edits. Thank you for helping us get our page in line with Wikipedia's standards! If there are any major edits to the page we will first post them in the "talk" section. That is is the standard way of doing it, correct? We would like to include a history of the school like other international schools do. Thanks again for your help and support! awchilds (talk) 09:21, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
I've just started an SPI at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Chkashif786 - he was blocked yesterday. (Not made a very good job of it - seem to have got it doubled somehow. Someone will sort it out.) Peridon (talk) 12:28, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
COI template request
edit- Dear Teapotgeorge, wondering if you would mind re-visiting Dave Chalk (entrepreneur) to assess the need for the COI template you added. The Wikipage has been majorly edited to remove bias and peacock language and promote subject neutrality. Best, Monmorong (talk) 18:28, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Professional backpacking
editI feel that adding the image will benefit this section since it currently has no image. The park in the photo is run by professionals who release Gopher Tortoises back into the wild. They may have been sick or injured. Once treated and rehabilitated, they are taken here for release. BackpackandGear (talk) 22:11, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
I give up.
editI don't have time to fool around with you guys. I'll work with other sites! — Preceding unsigned comment added by BackpackandGear (talk • contribs) 23:09, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Teapot, you are calling into question a source - the article is re-printed from The Boston Globe (June. 19, 2002) as is clearly indicated on the website. (with apologies) Baldwin24 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Baldwin24 (talk • contribs) 17:28, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Teapot, as a point of clarification, I just updated the source link on the site with which you took umbrage. Now, it references the Globe's archives which require a fee for a user to access (http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/boston/access/126831701.html?FMT=ABS&date=Jun%2019,%202002) is it preferable for a user to pay for archived materials (as we have done here) or refer them back to free content, be it on the official website. Just wondering how to proceed in the future. Baldwin24 05:48, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- It's always better to have reliable secondary sources where possible but if it's on a fee paying site then your own copy will have to suffice.As you have a clear conflict of interest you should tread very carefully.TeapotgeorgeTalk 17:53, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Ok. Thanks for the advice. And there really is no need for the hostility. I have been nothing but upfront about who I am. Baldwin24 [[User:Baldwin24|Baldwin24] 18:25, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Teapot - why in other wikipedia articles is the S.J. title allowed? (Please see: http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Society_of_Jesus) In this article, Fr. Leahy is referred to with his S.J. title. Just trying to be consistent.... [[User:Baldwin24|Baldwin24] 19:35, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- I am not being hostile, I am trying to maintain a neutral encyclopedia, I can see no evidence of you being upfront? There is no mention of who you are for instance, on the talk page of William P. Leahy where you have a clear conflict of interest. Titles are not used in Wikipedia articles, I will have a look at the article in question.TeapotgeorgeTalk 19:41, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Dear Teapotgeorge I need a bit of help here on Future Legend Records (independent label) Wikipage. I have been asked to give a citation on private company contract info which is not in the public domain, as follows:
The label variously had distribution contracts with Sony, Target BMG, SRD (Southern Records Distribution), Greyhound (now fMinor), 1Stop Distribution, Caroline Exports, Windsong/Pinnacle, Universal, IODA (Independent Online Distribution Alliance)and Code 7 Music/Storm Warning Entertainment.[citation needed]
How do I deal with this? With thanks AubreySimpson (talk) 14:10, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
- One has to ask how you know? If you have a close connection to the company you may have a conflict of interest.TeapotgeorgeTalk 14:18, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi Teapotgeorge, I have researched the article by interviewing the owner and manager of the record label as well as doing online searches to substantiate as much of the information as possible. I imagine that company to company contracts would not be posted online and did not wish to ask for private documentation to be aired in public. But then my search may not have been exhaustive as yet. I will see if I can find contracts online for the label with any of the distribution companies indicated in the article. All the best AubreySimpson (talk) 16:28, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
About EDAPS and Holography Ltd.
editHi Teapotgeorge,revisit those articles (EDAPS and Holography Ltd.) please to assess the need for the COI template you added right now.--Juveline85 (talk) 10:35, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
talkback
editYou can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
Adding to Rathcroghan page
editHi Teapotgeorge. I just tried to add info to the Rathcroghan page and it was refused. My name is Mike Croghan (I logged in under Rathcroghan Tours). I am an archaeologist from the Rathcroghan area and I have gained a lot of knowledge on the area, much of which will be useful to people researching Rathcroghan. I included the external link www.rathcroghantours.com so as people can visit the site to gain more information. People can already click onto cruachanai, this is a visitors centre and it offers the same tour services that I do. I am not blatently looking to advertise my services through the link, if you have a look at my site you will see that there is a wealth of information there for anyone to learn from. Please reconsider my external link as it is no more or less than you will find on the cruachan ai website. Thanks a million. Mike Croghan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rathcroghan Tours (talk • contribs) 19:48, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
James Haskell
editDid you read what EurosportManagement (talk · contribs) removed from James Haskell? The Resident Anthropologist (Talk / contribs) 00:39, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- I'll be more specific: regarding this edit of yours, I recommend you read the essay Wikipedia:Don't overlook legal threats. I blocked User:EurosportManagement due to the username, but that editor was justified in removing the disparaging material from the James Haskell article. ~Amatulić (talk) 01:41, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
- I did read what EurosportManagement (talk · contribs) removed from James Haskell's article. The content was correctly referenced and I was under the impression that Wikipedia wasn't censored? Regards.TeapotgeorgeTalk 08:31, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Hopperism
editI was very disappointed by your marking the Hopperism article for deletion. As a firm Hopperists myself I view this as a form of racism. Please do your research before you make decisions about whether religions are real. - BorgQueen — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackhopper94 (talk • contribs) 13:08, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
ConTemporal
editHi there; I am just trying to get this to be like the other scifi convention pages on Wikipedia, since we are officially booked. However you can help me achieve that without speedy deletion, or deletion at all, would be great. Thanks! K-Drone (talk) 15:23, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
Speedy deletion contested: Japan disaster 2011
editHello Teapotgeorge, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Japan disaster 2011, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not an unambiguous copyright infringement, or there is other content to save. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Logan Talk Contributions 16:30, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you, when I tagged it, it was a CLEAR unambiguous copyright violation of http://community.seattletimes.nwsource.com/mobile/?type=story&id=2014462620&.TeapotgeorgeTalk 16:35, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
Studio pottery
editIconic photo of a Leach bottle - much better! Marshall46 (talk) 14:19, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
- Well I'm no big fan of his, but it is a rather good pot and illustrates the article much better.TeapotgeorgeTalk 14:28, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
- I'm no big fan either, and if I took a pot like that out of the kiln, with the glaze crawling and a crust on the trailed decoration, I wouldn't have the nerve to show it. But it does illustrate the article well. Marshall46 (talk) 16:25, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Looking at the photo again, the pot is so badly made, and the decoration so clumsy, that I wonder if it is by Bernard Leach, or whether it's a forgery? Marshall46 (talk) 16:30, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- I'm no expert the shape looks right but I don't know about the decoration the photos also illustrates the Britannica encyclopaedias article here http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/media/137409/Vase-by-Bernard-Leach not that this proves anything! I'll see if his grandson Simon can help. CheersTeapotgeorgeTalk 17:22, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Indeed not, the Britannica photo is identical and from the same source, James Jen. Leach was trained as a graphic artist and an engraver, and his brush work is always assured. The trailed decoration on this pot is clumsy and hesitant, and, although Leach advocated rough, unrefined pottery, I am suspicious of a pot where the glaze has crawled so badly. I have never seen this pot anywhere else and the photo gives no provenance. Leach's work has been forged in the past and without provenance this picture is dubious. I would be interested to hear what Simon Leach has to say. Thanks. Marshall46 (talk) 09:36, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- I'm no expert the shape looks right but I don't know about the decoration the photos also illustrates the Britannica encyclopaedias article here http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/media/137409/Vase-by-Bernard-Leach not that this proves anything! I'll see if his grandson Simon can help. CheersTeapotgeorgeTalk 17:22, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- Looking at the photo again, the pot is so badly made, and the decoration so clumsy, that I wonder if it is by Bernard Leach, or whether it's a forgery? Marshall46 (talk) 16:30, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
- I have asked him to comment on it, I await his reply.TeapotgeorgeTalk 10:13, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
SORRY
editHi , I was trying to edit the Laurie Simmons page and am new to wikipedia and accidentally deleted it. I apologize. -Sarah — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarahsalon94 (talk • contribs) 20:18, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
Why is http://en.wiki.x.io/wiki/Whitworths not subject to speedy deletion. It is advertising —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.247.175 (talk) 23:30, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
- It is clearly NOT advertising but feel free to tag it if you so desire.TeapotgeorgeTalk 08:43, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
Why CAI Changed the Wiki Definition of . . . CAI
editWe have changed the Wiki description of Community Associations Institute. CAI belongs to its 30,000+ members and countless tens of thousands of others who benefit from our efforts. The new description is absolutely accurate and balanced; the previous version was neither. We acknowledge that there are differing points of view and that not all associations are managed as well as they could be, but we know what CAI is and ist't.
Those who have issues with common-interest communities are free to express their points of view, but they should not do on a Wiki page that is designed to describe CAI, an organization they use as a scapegoat to condemn associations and the millions of homeowner volunteers and professionals who work tirelessly to govern and manage these communities.
CAI critics are entitled to their opinions and interpretations, but they are not entitled to their own facts.
• Fact: CAI is an education and advocacy organization, with infinitely more resources dedicated to education than advocacy. See our 2010 Annual Report.
• Fact: CAI membership includes all community association stakeholders -- homeowners, board members (also homeowners), community (not "property") managers, association management companies and product and service providers.
• Fact: Homeowner members constitute the largest percentage of CAI members. For the record, attorneys and management companies represent less than 10 percent of CAI members.
• Fact: CAI’s mission is to build better, stronger, more harmonious communities. Everything we do -- professional development and designations, board member and homeowner education, information, resources, best practices and advocacy -- is done to fulfill that mission. We can’t imagine that even the most virulent anti-HOA critics oppose that fundamental objective.
• Fact: There are differing points of view on the nature and success of the community association concept. It's not perfect -- what human endeavor is? If every one of 300,000+ U.S. common-interest communities was perfect, there would be less need for an organization like CAI.
• Fact: Anecdotal evidence to the contrary -- again, we acknowledge that there are dysfunctional associations -- independent national research conducted by Zogby International is consistent: The overwhelming majority of residents in common-interest communities are satisfied with their associations, board members and professional managers.
Critics can disagree with CAI’s perspective and advocacy on some issues, but they should not use Wiki to mislead others about CAI, its membership or mission.
CAIFacts (talk) 20:29, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
Frank Rathbun Vice President of Communications CAI
- Thank you for the lecture. Nothing you have said alters the fact that the article reads like an advert, is not neutral in tone and you have a clear conflict of interest.TeapotgeorgeTalk 20:38, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
Teapots
editHi, Teapotgeorge! You are on my watchlist but I cannot remember why and am not going to bother to check. Why? This is about teapots!
Although I have little connection with his family, some of whom are sadly poor now, the English American potter Edwin Bennett (whom we call the "The Old Man") was my great-great-grandfather and various relatives still have some of his stuff around, including a number of teapots. There is a charming little one in my mother's cabinet I might take a picture of and upload. Some of our better off cousins, whom I have never met, own a lot of what was in the major Baltimore exhibition in 1973. Edwin became wealthy and owned a whole city block with a little mansion on it, where my grandfather was born, in Baltimore, but a member of our branch (my great-grandfather) literally blew the entire fortune and then some on various stupid projects. Now they/we are barely middle class.
I see you have created a number of articles on English potters. Edwin's brother James also has descendants but I have never met any of them. DinDraithou (talk) 21:42, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
- Sure! That sounds great. I have just re-enabled email and changed the address. It should work now. I will be happy to provide what little I have for your blog, but we do not have anything spectacular. My mother also has one of the classic Rebekah at the Well teapots and I have another somewhere, mine with chips. I have that exhibition catalogue too, as well as another article by Barbara and Ken Beem, but neither are scanned. DinDraithou (talk) 22:13, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you! Hopefully within a few days for the first shots. Your blog is wonderful and very well regarded so this will be an honour. DinDraithou (talk) 00:00, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
I've changed my mind. There's something wrong with your attitude and you won't be getting the pictures. Since you haven't replied to me at Talk:SHOWstudio.com after tag-bombing the article I was editing, I'm assuming you've got something going on. We're totally done. DinDraithou (talk) 05:25, 26 March 2011 (UTC) I didn't think my edits were particularly controversial? Just routine stuff...sorry you are upset. Kind regards. TeapotgeorgeTalk 09:49, 26 March 2011 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined: Rich Manley
editHello Teapotgeorge. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Rich Manley, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. Thank you. NW (Talk) 00:13, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
- My apologies but I thought it was an exact copy of the article that was recently speedy deleted. CheersTeapotgeorgeTalk 08:25, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
June Haimoff page
editTeapot George,
Some time ago you added the following comment to the June Haimoff page: A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject. It may require cleanup to comply with Wikipedia's content policies, particularly neutral point of view. Please discuss further on the talk page. (March 2011)
So far noone has felt any need to respond on the talk page and without trying to be disrespectful or biased, the only new things I added are the following:
- In 2009 June took an exam to obtain Turkish citizenship in order to start a foundation to protect the habitat of the loggerhead turtle. The Kaptan June Sea Turtle Conservation Foundation was officially established in February 2011 and will work in close cooperation with the DEKAMER Sea Turtle Research and Rehabilitation Centre at İztuzu Beach.
- June Haimoff still lives in Dalyan in a traditional Turkish house, named "The Peaceable Kingdom". She lives a very active life, supported by many friends and surrounded by her many dogs and cats.
- Her work is now being recognised by Queen Elizabeth II in the 2011 British New Year's Honors List.[2]
Looking back at what once was a reason for Cretan forever to start an item about June Haimoff was her significance for turtle protection at Iztuzu Beach, Dalyan, Turkey.
So point 1 is a relevant addition.
By the way Cretan forever mentioned her Turkish citizenship on the Turkish June Haimoff page before I added it.
DEKAMER is the only government approved turtle centre in Turkey. Does seem relevant as well within the turtle conservation context.
Point 2 can hardly be objected to. It is in fact a correction, where it first said: .... she settled there on a permanent basis as of 1984, living with a dozen dogs and cats in a solitary barrack on the beach.
No source can be found which supports this, simply because it is untrue. The remark must have been based on her own book, probably on one of the later chapters where she talks about her life in Dalyan at "The Peaceable Kingdom". I think June had only one dog at the beach, according to her book.
Point 3 is again a fact, supported by proof and can hardly be called irrelevant.
The fact that I happen to be her webmaster does not mean that I cannot write something without being biased. I correct (with proof, if necessary) and add what is relevant but missing. Unless you have good arguments to show that my three additions in fact show otherwise, I think your remark in the heading should be removed. Of course if I add any remarks in the future that do show lack of neutrality or bias, you are free to edit or remove them with sound arguments to support.
Regards, Kjf webmaster (talk) 08:22, 9 April 2011 (UTC) Maria Jonker
"Retirement" / June Haimoff
A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject. (March 2011) |
Teapotgeorge,
I do not know if you will still read this message, because I noticed you seem to have "retired". Perhaps someone else takes over your chores, so therefore I do send this final request to your attention.
As I remarked a few days ago, I feel there is no plausible ground for keeping the
A major contributor to this article appears to have a close connection with its subject. (March 2011) |
remark. I would like to develop the page, taking neutrality into account.
I will copy 'n paste my previous message and this message in the June Haimoff talk page for all editors to see and respond.
Hope to hear from you soon,
Maria Jonker Kjf webmaster (talk) 18:03, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Amanda Holden - Actress listed at Redirects for discussion
editAn editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Amanda Holden - Actress. Since you had some involvement with the Amanda Holden - Actress redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). GiantSnowman 00:29, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
May 2011
editHi. Thank you for your help with the vital work of patrolling new pages. I noticed that you are not marking some of the pages you've reviewed as patrolled. Please do remember to click the 'mark this page as patrolled' link at the bottom of the new page if you have performed the standard patrolling tasks. Where appropriate, doing so saves time and work by informing fellow patrollers of your review of the page, so that they do not duplicate efforts. Thanks again for volunteering your time at the new pages patrol project. UtherSRG (talk) 18:19, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Memorial Art Gallery {{coi}} and {{primarysources}} tags
edit- Let me point out that User:GalleryPR is not yet a major contributor—other than a short paragraph addition and attempting to inflate the stature of the collection, that editor only changed a handful of words. Most of the content from my rewrite remains intact.
- Also, while you could fault me for {{One source}}, the author of the reference I used is actually a local historian who has several local history books to her credit. I'd consider the work cited, MAGnum Opus: The Story of the Memorial Art Gallery, reliable and third-party. Despite the fact that it was published by the Gallery, it's pretty even-handed—I'd offer the fact that User:GalleryPR is attempting to sanitize details from it ([1], [2]) as proof.
Mid-Lothian Question
editThis looks like another Speedy candidate from User:Tarannon103. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 18:02, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Reference material sourced from fake press release
editDid you realise this [3]? 86.176.94.123 (talk) 23:14, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
- There's actually been lots of discussion of this BLP on Jimbo's talk page that you may have been unaware of. --JN466 20:49, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads up.TeapotgeorgeTalk 20:57, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
Speedy deletion declined on They call me a Skett
editHello. Per the notice you received above, a tag had been placed on They call me a Skett requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. Please note that after review, I have declined the deletion request on the basis that G11 doesn't cover stories., so you do not need to worry about this article being speedily deleted, and there is no longer any need to place the template {{hangon}} in the article. Please note that speedy deletion is only one of three deletion processes on Wikipedia; my decline does not prevent users from invoking the separate, longer term deletion methods of proposed deletion or bringing the article to articles for deletion. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this.
Recreation of Run Wild: Zombies
editI re-deleted. Salting is probably premature, but I left a warning on the re-creator's talk page. Rlendog (talk) 20:09, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
CSD at Science Photo Library
editI'm removing the CSD at Science Photo Library. The article needs some work, and might even fail AfD, but I don't see it as a clear CSD. FTR, some of the material that sways me (2011 collaboration with RIA Novosti ) was added after you added the CSD.--SPhilbrickT 17:56, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
please delete "R.H. CAMPBELL" and "RETURN OF BILLY JACK"
editAbbythecat (talk) 23:38, 27 May 2011 (UTC)I wrote both articles -- "R.H. CAMPBELL" and "THE RETURN OF BILLY JACK". I propose they both be deleted instantly. Neither are noteworthy or written correctly and all that good stuff. Everything I submit to Wikipedia gets rejected, so why not take both of these, and let me keep my perfect record of 100% rejection intact? Go on, give yourself a 2-fer! I hope you delete them both, the sooner the better. Excelsior! Abbythecat (talk) 23:38, 27 May 2011 (UTC)Abbythecat.Abbythecat (talk) 23:38, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
R.H. Campbell
editThanks for the link to the old AfD. I've deleted the article. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 20:06, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
Ironstone
editHi George, as you seem to know your ceramics I'd be grateful if you could check my addition to the Ironstone (disambiguation) page and update / correct it as appropriate. --Ef80 (talk) 11:55, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
- That seems OK to me ironstone is a type of stoneware introduced in England early in the 19th century by Staffordshire potters who sought to develop a porcelain substitute that could be mass-produced.TeapotgeorgeTalk 13:39, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
Avistrum
editThank you for your help with the page! I'll be careful about links. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mischief Managed Entertainment (talk • contribs) 17:27, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Reverted edits for James Layfield
editHi Teapotgeorge,
I've just made some edits to the James Layfield page. I've noticed you've just reverted our edits with a note 'Revert conflict of interest edits by consultancy editor'. Could you explain what this means or what specifically this refers to please? This is the first time I've done this.
Thanks.
- Your username suggests that you are editing on behalf of franklyconsult which means you have a conflict of interest.TeapotgeorgeTalk 20:44, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
FranklyConsult is the name I tend to use for online usernames (which happens to be my business name - is that a problem??) I've visited Central Working and met James, when looking him up on the Wiki I noticed the alerts on his page, so I've taken the time to tidy it up, however he isn't aware and this isn't a commercial arrangement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FranklyConsult (talk • contribs) 20:57, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
- Hi Teapot. See User talk:FranklyConsult#Deletion, the blocked user is asking for deletion of personal information from your user talkpage. --Vejvančický (talk | contribs) 06:54, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
speedy deletion of Geiser mfg. declined
editIn the future, please do google the company in question before putting it up for speedy deletion. Since it makes claims to historicity, it is useful to investigate those claims. For example, if you search google news ARCHIVES for this company, you get 16 news articles from a variety of newspapers from 1890 to 1897 alone. The article definitely needs work though. Elle vécut heureuse à jamais (be free) 20:44, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
- Uh no. WP:CSD does not requre research. The article must assert notability to avoid speedy deletion und WP:CSD#:A7. The burden is on the article creator. Note that this is very different from nominating an article for WP:AFD. Toddst1 (talk) 16:18, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- The article not only asserted notability as a historically major American manufacturer of now-outdated engines, it also had a wide variety of sources. I consider it good etiquette but not required to do a 30-second research of a topic before deleting it or nominating it for CSD. Elle vécut heureuse à jamais (be free) 17:14, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- When I nominated it for deletion there were NO references or sources at all.TeapotgeorgeTalk 17:40, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, but do note it was surprisingly detailed in certain claims that gave clues to its possible significance. An article does not need explicit references to assert notability -- if it cites specifics that lend credibility to the idea that it is notable, I consider it good etiquette to do a quick google search to investigate these claims. Newbie users when creating an article may not be aware of the need for references right away. It is good form to see what merits can be found in their contributions before pressing the delete button indiscriminately. Elle vécut heureuse à jamais (be free) 17:51, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- OK... I understand I'll take more care in future. regardsTeapotgeorgeTalk 18:23, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, but do note it was surprisingly detailed in certain claims that gave clues to its possible significance. An article does not need explicit references to assert notability -- if it cites specifics that lend credibility to the idea that it is notable, I consider it good etiquette to do a quick google search to investigate these claims. Newbie users when creating an article may not be aware of the need for references right away. It is good form to see what merits can be found in their contributions before pressing the delete button indiscriminately. Elle vécut heureuse à jamais (be free) 17:51, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- When I nominated it for deletion there were NO references or sources at all.TeapotgeorgeTalk 17:40, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
- The article not only asserted notability as a historically major American manufacturer of now-outdated engines, it also had a wide variety of sources. I consider it good etiquette but not required to do a 30-second research of a topic before deleting it or nominating it for CSD. Elle vécut heureuse à jamais (be free) 17:14, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
Jonathan Glatzer
editTo Teapotgeorge….
I just wrote this note to CKatz. I guess it now applies to you. Please read below, but do answer the question - why does that statement need anything more than a reference to Rotten Tomatoes? Good lord…
Hey Mr. Katz,
This is Jonathan Glatzer. My publicity rep informed of the back and forth antics you and he engaged in about a month ago. I told him not to worry about it and to drop it. But today, I had reason to look up the page and couldn't believe you would insist on 6 references to the statement, "the film received mostly negative reviews." Frankly, it seemed punitive. Perhaps my PR guy got under your skin and you wanted to let him know he didn't hold the keys to his client's wiki page. Fine. Point made. But now, I am asking you directly, personally to not take out your ire on me. There should be one reference for a simple statement such as that. Make it Rotten Tomatoes if you want - that ought to do it. But please don't pile on. For work purposes, I have looked up lots of fellow directors with similar resumes to mine and none contain this sort of finger in the eye type of thing - let alone a reference to any reviews good or bad. It would be my preference to not even reference the critics since I think the film shouldn't be defined by them but by audience response which has been decidedly positive - moreover, since it is a page about me, not the film, I would not want the critics to define me either. (Also, the critical response is discussed on the film's page.)
I have no quarrel with you at this time. However, if you ignore this request for fairness or engage in a similar back and forth with me, I will be compelled to take further action as this page, for better or worse, has a direct relationship on my career and my ability to earn a living for my family. Please, make it one reference or remove the sentence entirely.
Lastly, I was never on the Men's Olympic Fencing Team. It's hysterical - and illustrative - that this petulant argument over reviews was occurring a half inch away from a complete falsehood dealing with a major international event. I have no idea how that info came to be on my bio.
Thank you,
Jonathan Glatzer — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkyleg (talk • contribs) 21:54, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Cucas
editI'm going to socktag them with User:Zhengty2008 as the master.
- SWUN International (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) sock
- Victoria and Daddy (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) sock
I zapped dozens of cucas spamlinks before. See User talk:Zhengty2008 for how that transpired. It doesn't look like a govt org. You have to pay after filling out their form.
We can keep an eye on him with this.
See this. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 09:57, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
It's probably not worth opening an investigation just yet. The socktags are to keep others up to speed. Plus, we can track the socks easily. Thoughts? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:00, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- OK I'll keep an eye open for them. cheersTeapotgeorgeTalk 10:03, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- Cheers. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:07, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
SWUN Revision
editHi Teapot,
We found the poster of SWUN on Wikipedia is inaccurate, therefore we're going to revise again, would you please approve it a.s.a.p.? Thank you very much for your help!
P.S. the same content could be found at CUCAS as well!
Thanks,
SWUN International (Victoria & Daddy) from P.R. China — Preceding unsigned comment added by Victoria and Daddy (talk • contribs) 10:09, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Addressed here. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:38, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
CUCAS & SWUN
editHi Teapot,
We just find that you suspect we're on behalf of CUCAS, as matter of fact, so far our SWUN English webpage has not a completed one, if you think that we promote CUCAS's reputation (SEO), pleaes delete CUCAS links, anyhow, we're the people from SWUN in China, if you doubted the content is inaccurate, please check with our Party Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party, Professor LUOBU JIANGCUN, and the President of SWUN, Professor ZHAO XINYU. Thank you very much for your help to the new updates!
Sincerely Yours,
SWUN Internatinal (Victoria and Daddy) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Victoria and Daddy (talk • contribs) 10:50, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
Addressed here. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:38, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
Possible archiving
editFollowing email correspondence with the relevant editor I wonder if you would be prepared to allow the section "Reverted edits for James Layfield" to be archived now, rather than waiting until whenever you next do a more general archiving. I think there are genuine concerns about the information being left visible. JamesBWatson (talk) 12:28, 9 June 2011 (UTC)