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Joker - Biggest September Monday and Tuesday

You have made a mistake, as I added tags to those two records - as supposed by Deadline and Forbes magazine (which you ignored); Joker also beats September Monday B.O. record, which is owned by New Line/Warner Bros.’ It ($8.76M); Similar to its Monday, Joker yesterday came in ahead of the highest September Tuesday, which belongs to It ($11.4M); it beat It records; refer to the links.--Bartallen2 (talk) 19:20, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

Joker (2019 film)

To ensure Wikipedia is applying the same standards of information capture, like was done for Avengers: Endgame where once the Box Office Mojo production budget was verified that article used this as the defacto reference point. The same should apply with Joker (2019 film). Changing the results just to continue edit warring is only going to lead to each of us being dissatisfied and not friendly co-contributors. At this point Box Office Mojo finally confirmed the production budget was $55 million. And since even :WhiteAngel has also clarified a final budget has been validated, this is more than just my opinion. Be consistent with standards and posting expectations. Thanks.

Yamla and 331dot will clearly be able to observe I am attempting to talk through this with you like a respectful adult. Hopefully you can do the same so we do not experience pass-aggressive reverts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bosco685 (talk • contribs) 11:43, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

You are also disregarding that Box Office Mojo (the defacto film box office tracking site) has now confirmed $55 million as the final confirmed production budget.

@Bosco685: yes, and that's why I'm saying this needs more discussion. As reliable as BOM is, it still isn't the end all/be all for budgets, and reliable sources don't seem to agree on the exact amount. The Endgame example you used was WP:OSE and not always going to be the case. JOEBRO64 11:47, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

@WhiteAngel: and others are clearly attempting to reference the fact like was done with Avengers: Endgame where once Box Office Mojo (the defacto film box office tracking site for the entire industry) posted the confirmed production budget, that became the number referenced. Changing it back to what you want it to be out of whatever motivation right now does not follow consistent Wikipedia practies, and will lead to disruptive co-contributor engagements. :@Yamla: and :@331dot: may want to assist directly in sorting this out to ensure standard practices are followed as was applied to Avengers: Endgame (2019 film).

Responded at the article talk page. JOEBRO64 23:35, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

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My Joker (2019 film) edits

I replaced my edits because I disagree with your reason for removing them. The final paragraph of the plot section was TOO concise in that it was confusing. The small amount of detail I added makes it easier for readers to understand the sequence of events. This is the second time you've reverted my edits. Also, I've noticed you edit with a rather heavy hand. Remember, nobody owns a WP article. Let's not get into an edit war over this. Chief Red Eagle (talk) 20:24, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

@Chief Red Eagle: responded on the talk page. JOEBRO64 23:31, 12 October 2019 (UTC)

My Joker (2019 film) edits

I reverted your edits for the following reasons:

• The words "and" and "but" are conjunctions and therefore don't require commas.
• I removed a superfluous "that" because it added nothing the understandability of the sentence. Using fewer words in writing anything is always best.
• Adding the expression "and how" destroys the flow of the text and makes the sentence awkward.

Chief Red Eagle (talk) 23:02, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

@Chief Red Eagle: I don't disagree, but the previous version was more concise. I think I've come up with a good middle ground. JOEBRO64 00:55, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

3RR

Ok, Joe, you've demonstrated that you can't tolerate even the smallest changes to the plot section of Joker and this is not the first time you've done this to me. You don't own this article. Nobody does.This is your first WP:3RR warning. Chief Red Eagle (talk)

@Chief Red Eagle: what? I reverted you once, and multiple editors have reverted your changes to the plot in the past (and opposed them on the talk page). I apologize if I come off as a bit harsh, but I don't see how your edits have improved the summary in any way. All they've done is just add trivial details and clarification where none is necessary. JOEBRO64 16:14, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

I see that you've reverted me again. This is your second 3RR warning. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chief Red Eagle (talk • contribs) 16:17, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

@Chief Red Eagle: uh, you reverted yourself... JOEBRO64 16:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Oops. You're right about that. Sorry.Chief Red Eagle (talk) 16:32, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

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Joker lede

Hi there, first of all, thank you for the multitude of great edits you provide to Wikipedia. I just wanted to let you know I reverted the order you gave to the rank and record in the lede of Joker. It is common practice to mention the rank during the year of release before any other records that may be achieved during its theatrical run. Cheers. SassyCollins (talk) 18:58, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

@SassyCollins: WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. It's far more important that it's the highest-grossing R-rated film than the yearly ranking, so therefore it should go first. JOEBRO64 11:48, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

I understand what you're saying. However, the importance (albeit subjective at best) is of no relevance here. The rank it reaches for the year of release is a static one. The highest ranking R-rated, contrarily, can be surpassed. If you feel this passionately about it, you can always take it to the Talk-page. SassyCollins (talk) 17:22, 13 November 2019 (UTC)

Once Joker reaches the $1B threshold, the box office sentence in the lede will turn out in your favor (first r-rated to reach this), and the above will become a moot point. Cheers. SassyCollins (talk) 00:17, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Breaking the budget-to-gross-ratio, 25-year-old record of the Mask is not a small feat. I also think this should be mentioned in the lede, or at the very least at the box office section. What are your thoughts on this? SassyCollins (talk) 08:23, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

@SassyCollins: see the talk page. There was a discussion that it's not necessarily accurate. JOEBRO64 23:44, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

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DisneyMetalHead

Heads up, seems DMH is making moves at the Universal Monsters page again to make it seem DU is still going on. Rusted AutoParts 17:40, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

@Rusted AutoParts: I've left them a warning. I'm really hoping it doesn't come to this, but if DMH continues to be problematic I'm probably going to bring it to ANI. JOEBRO64 18:15, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

I'm hoping I got this call right anyway, I can't recollect off the top of my head if there was another subsection after the Dark Universe one. I just noticed an edit where DMH actually restored the table to where the consensus had it. The wording of his newest edits seemed to infer he was doing his old DU edits again but now i'm not as certain. Rusted AutoParts 18:20, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

@Rusted AutoParts: alright, I've removed the warning. Might've been premature. JOEBRO64 18:24, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Apologies for that. I'm not big on jumping to conclusions and yet i feel I have done so. Rusted AutoParts 18:25, 28 November 2019 (UTC)

Users: Rusted AutoParts and TheJoebro64 - please remember, that when you are making claims/accusations about an editor; a good practice would be to notify them. I'm not sure what your goal was in contacting only Joebro64, but next time - please ping me in comments such as these.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 01:58, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Not sure what they goal is here, this issue has been a dead one for three months now. Rusted AutoParts 01:59, 10 February 2020 (UTC)

Edit reversions to Joker (2019)

Why are you reverting edits to the plot of Joker (2019) with no talk comment? The history shows this isn't the first time you've done this. Miraculouschaos (talk) 20:48, 4 December 2019 (UTC)

@Miraculouschaos: see WP:FILMPLOT. The plot is fine as it is; it doesn't need to be expanded. Your edits added far too much in-universe/trivial details that were better as they were before. JOEBRO64 00:19, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

Regarding AGF and the DCEU talk section

Your comments suggesting that I "followed" you to the article and went about "blindly" reverting you are pretty bad manners. Please remember to use AGF when interacting with other editors. You will find that being polite is a far better way to work collaboratively than being salty. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 19:06, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

@Jack Sebastian: see my response at the DCEU talk page JOEBRO64 19:12, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

Cool, I am glad we were able to address that. Good on ye, as my pops would say. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 19:32, 13 December 2019 (UTC)

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If you're going to jump into a conflict, actually see what happened first. The bold edit was TheMysteriousEditor adding this material on the 13th; I removed it. Since then, other editors have reverted to force it back into the page, while other editors have tried to remove it. This is a clear dispute over inserting material, not retaining it, and to say that the people revering to the status quo are the ones violating BRD rather than those attempting to force it in during the middle of discussion is patently ridiculous. Toa Nidhiki05 15:01, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Toa Nidhiki05, TME's edit was a completely different revision compared to what you're reverting. You seem to be unable to understand what WP:3RR is. You're the only one who's trying to force in your revision when it's clear other editors disagree (you've already reverted four times within a day), and not providing a source when others have. I also ask you to read our policy on assuming good faith, because if I recall correctly this is not the first time you've been needlessly antagonistic over an issue that multiple editors disagree with you on. JOEBRO64 15:10, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

I have not reverted four times in a day. I urger you to retract that false claim. As for the edit, again, that's an instertion of content. Per BRD, the insertion needs to be removed while discussion is ongoing. I'd advise you to read WP:BRD. Toa Nidhiki05 15:34, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

[1], [2], [3], and [4]. That's four reverts in around a day. It's still a 3RR violation. JOEBRO64 15:51, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

TIL three days is "around a day". Toa Nidhiki05 16:14, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Now you're just being obnoxious. The time period I linked above was just over 24 hours - so yes, around a day. I kindly ask that you stop commenting on my talk page. You violated BRD and 3RR. Live with it, even if you don't like it when you're told so. JOEBRO64 16:20, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Toa Nidhiki05, you are misapprehending our 3RR policy. While it is indeed that a person can be blocked for blundering past the 3 reverts in a 24 hour period, a contributor can be blocked for several reverts that game the system by going right up to the electric fence, or revert without using the discussion page. IOW, you can be blocked for ever two reverts, if you are only using edit summaries to make your argument.

And, while I am here, I would point out how you should use Joebro's usertalk page to point out personality conflicts, not discussions germane to the article topic. I would urge you to use the article discussion page, as what you are doing here could be considered harassment. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 02:23, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

Notifications sent to select editors

It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on a biased choice of users' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Talk:DC Extended Universe. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Thank you. To avoid any kind of canvassing implications, notify all recent editors of a new discussion that you have brought up on talk-pages for articles. Wikipedia guidelines state that you cannot/should not reach out to individual editors. Please be aware of this.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 08:39, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

@DisneyMetalhead: I didn't canvass; it's perfectly appropriate to reach out to other editors in a neutral manner. I pinged editors who had been involved in previous discussions similar to the talk page for input. Canvassing is the selection of editors you know are going to support your viewpoint, which I did not do. See the guideline itself: An editor who may wish to draw a wider range of informed, but uninvolved, editors to a discussion can place a message at any of the following... The talk page of one or more directly related articles. JOEBRO64 12:45, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

You need to notify everyone. Including myself - which you did not do.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 17:45, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

I didn't notify you because you were already involved. Pinging you was not necessary. JOEBRO64 17:53, 24 January 2020 (UTC)

I assume WP:GOODFAITH in your edits, but per WP:BOLDness simply wanted to remind you.--DisneyMetalhead (talk) 04:07, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

I have to concur with TheJoebro64 here; he was most certainly not canvassing, but rather bringing more eyes to the article. That is essential when there is a solid disagreement on the path to pursue. Joe will be the first to tell you that we do not necessarily see eye-to-eye on subjects addressed within the article in question. I think he is to be commended for taking the time to widen the circle on the discussion after sensing the looming impasse in discussion.

And, as an aside, I would point out that BOLD only applies to articles, not discussions. There, AGF and CIVIL should serve as your Polaris. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 05:40, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

The Batman

I don’t really feel it matters that their characters are of an unknown status. The official Warner Bros. press release includes them amongst the other actors, so I feel it should be billed in accordance with that. Rusted AutoParts 01:01, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#GameRankings and Metacritic

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Joker

Your plot summary makes it seems like Arthur confronted Mr. Wayne in front of a large crowd, when in reality it was just the 2 of them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack butler505 (talk • contribs) 21:33, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Jack butler505, I don't agree. All that's relevant is that it was at a public event. That's it. Anything more is bloat. JOEBRO64 21:35, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

There was nothing at all public about the confrontation though — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jack butler505 (talk • contribs) 20:46, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Symbrock

I have posted a discussion on the Venom page about this subject, and why it is unnecessary. Aardwolf68 (talk) 15:08, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

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Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#GT/FT plans for the Sakura Wars series

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Recent reversion - February 2020

I won't contest this, but I do have to raise the question as to whether we should mention Tails in the plot. We may *know* it is him, but for general interest purposes, should he be named in that detail on the mid-credit scene? I raised a discussion on the article, but I do have to question this - I found the film's official credits, and they don't have him listed in it (along with the voice actor). GUtt01 (talk) 15:09, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

GUtt01, common sense should trump the fact he's not credited. The filmmakers have identified him as Tails as well. JOEBRO64 13:36, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#Localization articles?

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#Localization articles?. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 08:11, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Sonic the Hedgehog

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Discussing about Trials of Mana → Seiken Densetsu 3 move

Hello TheJoebro, I'm sorry to bother you, but I was wondering if you could you weight in in this move discussion. I ask you because I think this is in a similar situation to the Mother article that you voted on a few years ago. Alt (talk) 09:40, 9 March 2020 (UTC)

Not Edit-Warring - Responsible Editing

When someone begins to notice something is not conforming to Wikipedia policies and guidelines, and removes it, that is considered careful, responsible editing. What you did was to address the issue and correct it, which I applaud. Thank you. GUtt01 (talk) 18:52, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

In hindsight, I was probably wrong to remove some of the lines in the lead, while that other one I contested could have had a Citation Needed template to highlight the issue. I hope you will forgive me for trying to do the right thing. GUtt01 (talk) 18:55, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

GUtt01, no worries. I just wanted to remind you about WP:BRD. Things can get settled a lot quicker through discussion than constant reverts. JOEBRO64 20:09, 16 March 2020 (UTC)

Your recent entry on Talk:Fox News (Revert)

Save your (figurative) breath, bro, the lefty cabal here vastly outnumbers people who think logically. While I completely agree with you, you can't win. Don't even bother. I've fought those wars time and again, only to be outvoted and ridiculed. It is pretty depressing, that on certain subjects, wikipedia is not a very reliable source of good information because of people like the them. --rogerd (talk) 20:45, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Rogerd, it doesn't surprise me, sadly. I've long tried to avoid political subjects on Wikipedia, and the attitudes I encountered there certainly weren't ones I'd like to see on a regular basis. JOEBRO64 23:31, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Gumball T. Waterson

TheJoeBro64, Please stop deleting my edit to List of Sonic the Hedgehog Characters. I'm not kiding, Sonic's full name is Sonic Ogilvie Maurice Wentworth the Hedgehog.

Gumball T. Waterson (talk) 18:29, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Gumball T. Waterson, in the comics it's his name, but that list is about the video games. It says so at the start. JOEBRO64 18:57, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

TheJoebro64, the list is not about the video games, it's about the characters. It might mention a few video games from the franchise, but whether Sonic's in the comics or in the video games, his full name always is Sonic Ogilvie Maurice Wentworth the Hedgehog. You might see him in the cartoons and video games introduce himself as just Sonic the Hedgehog, but it doesn't mean he doesn't have middle names. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gumball T. Waterson (talk • contribs) 10:05, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

Gumball T. Waterson, no, it's not. That's Sonic's full name in the comics only. He doesn't have a full name in the games. The top of the page says The Sonic games keep a separate continuity from the Sonic the Hedgehog comics published by Archie Comics and other Sonic media, which should make it clear that the list only refers to what's present in the games. Please stop edit warring. JOEBRO64 12:18, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

TheJoeBro64, we have to stop this editing. Sergecross73 noticed that we are in an edit war. If we don't stop, we'll be blocked from editing. Please stop deleting my edit. I'll prove to you that the comics are related to the video games: Sonic Boom is a TV show, and it also has comics that don't face a different plot. As the edit waring Wikipedia page says: "If an edit war develops, participants should try to discuss the issue on the talk page and work things out". I really don't want to be your enemy. I wanna be your friend if possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gumball T. Waterson (talk • contribs) 12:28, 26 March 2020 (UTC)

March 2020

Hello, I'm Ixocactus. I noticed that you recently removed content from God's Not Dead (film) without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Ixocactus (talk) 22:37, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

Ixocactus, I explained in my edit summary why and explained on the talk page. Also, WP:STATUSQUO applies; when there's a dispute, we retain the status quo until there's a consensus. JOEBRO64 22:42, 25 March 2020 (UTC)

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